The Argument Against Adam Dunn...PLUS...A Mark Teixeira, Free Agent Update...But First...
WINTER LEAGUE WEEKEND ROUNDUP...
Dominican Winter League...
Friday -
Friday night in the Dominican Winter League, the Tigres del Licey took a 7-4 road decision from the Estrellas de Oriente, with help from DC and Licey infielder Ronnie Belliard's 4th HR in just 12 games with the Tigres, a solo shot which left Belliard with 15 RBI's and a .356 AVG... Anderson Hernandez, starting at second for Licey, was 2 for 4 with a run scored, a double and his 28th RBI in 43 games in which he's now hitting .372...
Saturday -
Ronnie Belliard had the night off Saturday, so it was all Anderson Hernandez in the Tigres del Licey's 9-8 win over Gigantes del Cibao, as the presumptive starting second baseman for DC in '09 finished the night 4 for 6, with 3 runs scored and another double, #19 this winter, for a .381 AVG, 19 doubles, 6 triples, 1 HR and 29 RBI's in 44 games with the Tigres...
Sunday -
Belliard hit his 2nd double of the Winter on Sunday, but the Tigres del Licey lost to the Leones del Escogido by a score of 5-1. Belliard ends the day 1 for 3 with a .354 AVG, and Anderson finishes the game 0 for 5 with a K in the Licey loss...
Puerto Rican Winter League...
Friday -
Criollos de Caguas' right fielder and DC outfield prospect, Justin Maxwell, was 2 for 5 Friday in an extra-inning affair with the Cangrejeros de Santurce, which Maxell's Criollos lost 5-4 on a run in bottom of the 12th. Maxwell's hitting .212 after 25 games this Winter, his Criollos' teammate and fellow DC prospect Garrett Guzman was 1 for 4 with a triple, 2 RBI's and a .276 AVG after play Friday.
Saturday -
There were 23 runs and 32 hits combined between the Criollos de Caguas and the Lobos de Aricebo Saturday night in the Lobos' 13-10 win on the road at the Parque Yidefonso Sola Morales. Justin Maxwell went 1 for 3 with his 5th double and 20th RBI of the Winter. Garrett Guzman, as DH for the Criollos, finished the night 2 for 4 with 2 runs scored and his 15th RBI.
The Argument Against Adam Dunn...
Want to see how deep this goes?...Just take this quote, for example, from Adam Dunn in an article by MLB.com's Chris Haft from April 28th of 2002, entitled, "Dunn, Kearns making an impact", where the then 22-year-old Adam Dunn talks about the emergence, within the Reds' organization, of outfielder Austin Kearns, who had just debuted with Cincinnati 10 games earlier:
"'I've said it a thousand times -- the guy's unbelievable,' Dunn said. 'Nothing he does surprises me. He's one of those players like (Jose) Rijo. He can do whatever (he wants). He doesn't get rattled. He knows how to hit. He plays good defense. He's just good.'"
Later in the article, Mr. Haft talks to Bob Boone, then the Reds' Manager, about both of the young Reds' stars, and though there's no mention of him in the article, we all know who the General Manager of the Reds at the time was, right? Jim Bowden...
Kearns, Dunn, Rijo, Boone, Bowden...Austin Kearns is currently the Nationals' overpaid/underachieving right fielder, who'll be battling for a spot if he's not traded before Spring Training, and who'll be making $8 million dollars in the next-to-last year of his contract...Adam Dunn has been identified as Washington's backup plan, (which no doubt thrills him), should the Nationals' overtures to free agent first baseman Mark Teixeira remain unrequited. Bob Boone is DC's Co-Asst GM and VP of Player Development...Jose Rijo?, Special Assistant to the GM, and DC's General Manager?...of course, is Jim Bowden...
...These guys came to town with their own agenda and they've been carrying it out under our noses for years now without anyone raising even the slightest objection...It is my opinion that DC GM Jim Bowden is...(I'm just kidding, there's no conspiracy here, Mr. Bowden simply still believes he was right in his initial judgement of Kearns' and Dunn's talents back when he brought them to the Majors with the Reds...Which is why I firmly believe Dunn will be in DC next season...My argument against Dunn is simple...)
...170, 126, 195, 168, 194, 165, 164...Yes, those are Dunn's strikeout totals for the seven full seasons he's played in the Majors...In his first year, Dunn K'd 74 times in 66 games, which projects to over 180+ whiffs...No one ever describes Dunn as the "K- Per-Game and More" outfielder, or as a "guaranteed-K-a-Game Man" Adam Dunn, no, he's the guy who's good for 40 homers and 100 RBI's...How about these #'s...15, 11, 8, 9, 13, 6, 11...Error totals from Dunn's 7 full seasons in the Majors...including 15 errors in 127 games at first base in his career according to baseball-reference.com's Dunn page...oh, and he's 29 years old, 30 in Sept. '09, just barely fitting into the "free agent in their 20's" prototype that the franchise has said they would consider acquiring if it would help the team's growth...He really does hit 40 HR's every year though? 46 in '04 and 40 each year since...and he has been just over or below 100 RBI's in each of the last five seasons...but why spend big free agent money on a 40/100, defensively dodgy 1st baseman on a team you're openly admitting won't compete for years now? More exciting losses? I still say, barring Mark Teixeira's signing...go with Nick Johnson and the top 1B prospect backing him up, (he should get plenty of time) so whoever's next-in-line at first in DC learns how to play the right way...
Teixeira Update...as of 10:30 pm EST 12/15/08...Mark Teixeira has not yet accepted or rejected the Washington Nationals' generous offer...
The Nationals are quickly getting relegated to the final paragraphs and the second tier of teams in most reporting on the high-stakes chase of free agent first baseman Mark Teixeira, with ESPN.com's Buster Olney even going so far as to title his most recent blog post, "Nats, O's shouldn't be in hunt for Teixeira", and Mr. Olney is not kind, as he first rationalizes the Red Sox' and Angels' pursuits of Teixeira and then asks bluntly, "But what in the heck are the Nationals doing in this poker game?"
I'll forgive what I see as hyperbole when Mr. Olney states, "A casual baseball fan might be able to identify perhaps one of the Nationals' players, Ryan Zimmerman..." (ed. note - "...since he uses a possessive apostrophe.")..because if nothing else, most fans at least know DC outfielder Elijah Dukes, though mostly for all the wrong reasons rather than what he accomplished on the field and at the plate last season, and all of New York knows Lastings Milledge thanks to the NY-Media hype machine that touted and then quickly turned on the Mets' one-time top outfield prospect...and all of Philly...(ed. note - "What up, Champs!")...knows John Lannan, since he broke Chase Utley's hand...by mistake, totally...(ed. note - "...and I never wish for anyone to get injured, but if Utley's hip issues have something to do with the landing on his diving shoulder block into Jesus Flores, well...")
But I believe Buster...uh, sorry, Mr. Olney, is spot-on when he writes, unfortunately apparently still captivated by his time in Vegas and continuing the gambling analogy:
"...the table at which the Nationals and Orioles are playing right now is just pricey, and they should excuse themselves and spend their money on young pitching -- whether through the draft or through international signings -- and wait until the time is better. To do anything else is nothing less than lunacy."
(ed. note - "Lunacy, huh (laughs)...Mr. Olney also says the same about those suckers up north in Wire-country...What the heck are the Orioles doing in the chase for Teixeira,...right?")
Daniel Cabrera?
A few federalbaseball.com readers have floated the free agent former Orioles' pitcher Daniel Cabrera's name as one the Nationals should take an interest in, and according to a post at the MLB.com Hot Stove blog by MLB.com writer Alden Gonzalez entitled, "Some of teams interested in Cabrera revealed", (ed. note - "And you think my titles stink?"), the Nationals are, in fact, one of nearly a dozen teams interested, as Mr. Gonzalez writes, "...the Tribune-Review confirmed that the Pirates are one of those teams. Other candidates to be involved include the Nationals, Brewers, Blue Jays, Padres and Rangers."
The Baltimore Sun article that Mr. Gonzalez references is by Baltimore Sun writer Dan Connolly, and it's entitled, "Cabrera looking at departure 'in a positive way'". Mr. Connolly says the 27-year-old, 6'7'', 230 lb, Daniel Cabrera's agent Mike Powers:
"...declined to reveal interested parties, but the Pittsburgh Pirates, Washington Nationals and Toronto Blue Jays have shown interest in Cabrera in the past."
The Nationals "have show interest in the past"? Good enough for me...I'll buy any rumor...
Teixeira Update...as of 10:30 pm EST 12/15/08...Mark Teixeira has not yet accepted or rejected the Washington Nationals' generous offer...
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valid concern
While dunn will probably never be in contention for MVP award due to the holes in his game, for a team who doesn’t have anyone with over 15 HRs or 70 RBIs last season to get someone who will go for about 40/100 will be not just an upgrade but a whole new look for the offense. If johnson plays 140 games next year would be a Godsend but i’m not holding my breath. And judging by the rest of the lineup’s performance last year, getting on base is an overrated stat for the Nats since we have no one driving them in consistently. N. Johnson getting on base is fine, but then we have to hold our breath for flores to drive him in. Let the fast guys get on base, we need somebody with some pop to drive them in!
by VA SLIM on Dec 16, 2008 1:32 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Since you checked out baseballreference.com, did you notice Dunn’s career OBP%. It’s actually higher than Teixeira’s (not by much .381 to .378) Also, you make it sound like Dunn is over-the-hill. He’s a whopping 6 months older than Teixera. I know I’m in the minority here, but I’d take Dunn, would would be around 3 years/$36 million, over Teixeira at close to $200 million. We all saw what A-Rod’s contract did to the Rangers — spending a ton of money on 1 player prevented them from spending decent money on important things — like pitching.
by dougcachet on Dec 16, 2008 8:33 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
first off, i know...
i gotta change my handle now.
but on to Dunn: dougcachet’s got it right. Dunn’s OBP is excellent. it doens’t matter how you make outs for the most part, it’s how often you don’t make outs, and Adam Dunn is excellent at not making outs.
if you’re all bent on Johnson playing first, that’s great IF he’s healthy, and that puts Dunn back in left. he ain’t any worse than WMP! and that’s why you’ve got Wee Willie around, to replace weaker fielders in late inning leads (not that that will happen all that often anyway).
i’d venture a batting order of:
Milledge-cf
Guzman-ss
Zimmerman-3b
Dunn-lf
Johnson-1b
Dukes-rf
Flores-c
Hernandez (Harris)-2b
would be pretty darn entertaining. Dunn, Johnson and Dukes have all shown the ability to get on base, adn all three together in the middle of the order would be formidable for any pitcher to negotiate several times through the order.
Your voice of doom and gloom.
by Dave at Bottomfeeder Baseball on Dec 16, 2008 10:49 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
What about Willingham?
In ‘06, with the team’s last big bopper Alfonso Soriano, the Nationals finished 70-92, while Soriano hit 46 HR’s and 95 RBI’s (don’t quote me on those #‘s, I’m checking in on the phone)…now, granted the team is improved since the ‘06 version, and Dunn’s a much better idea than signing Teixeira, (I’ve made the same A-Rod/Rangers comparisons, check Tex tags above), but I guess i just don’t think Dunn hitting 40/100 on a 90-loss team is a wise investment…
I was surprised about Dunn’s OBP, especially with all the K’s…and as far as his age, I wasn’t arguing that he’s much older than Teixeira, rather I don’t think either of them really fit into a rebuilding (still) team…
Doug? Is that 3-year/$36 a guesstimate, cause I haven’t read anywhere what Dunn’s asking?…
Sorry to respond to everyone at once, it’s just easier on me phone…
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by Ed Chigliak on Dec 16, 2008 11:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Watching Soriano was fun though...
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by Ed Chigliak on Dec 16, 2008 11:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
totally forgot about Willingham.
in the Adam Dunn/Nick Johnson scenario, Dukes moves to center, Willingham in right and Milledge gets flipped for a almost-MLB ready pitcher.
in the spirit of the holidays, i’m in a giving mood.
Your voice of doom and gloom.
by Dave at Bottomfeeder Baseball on Dec 16, 2008 12:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Poor Milledge...
…everyone seems ready to give him up, that last month of shaky D really must’ve scared some…
My point mentioning Willingham, other than bustin’ b•••s, was to say that until they move Johnson or 1 of the outfielders, u can’t just keep adding redundant position players…
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by Ed Chigliak on Dec 16, 2008 12:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
TEIXEIRA Update...
XM’s MLB Homeplate update is reporting that Teixeira is close to a decision…take that for what it’s worth…
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by Ed Chigliak on Dec 16, 2008 12:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
STOP MAKING ME ROOT FOR "BIG WILKIE!"
"Next year we'll make it better." -- Mannyger Acta
by Doghouse on Dec 16, 2008 5:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
"Big Wilkie" or "Dunn-K" if they end up with done...
Might have to have a nickname readers poll…
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by Ed Chigliak on Dec 16, 2008 8:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Read this, don't be fooled by the title until you read the post...
….I warn you because of how I reacted when I read this at the SB Nation’s Red Sox blog…
Over the Monster – “Teixeira to choose between Red Sox and Orioles within 48 hours”…
Now just read, no panicking, there’s a reason this isn’t on the front page…
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by Ed Chigliak on Dec 16, 2008 8:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If there's one thing I've learned while being in the military (and it counts for everything in life)
Don’t believe anything until it happens. I think half of the fun of writing / blogging is the hype and prognosticating.
" We got "The Rod"...What you got? "
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Dec 17, 2008 9:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
dunn/johnson
I agree with doug, I am decidedly in the discount dunn camp. And I oppose contracts over five years as too risky, especially for the nationals, who would be banking the success of the team for the next 8 years on one player. Get dunn for about 15M a year, if he turns us into a contender, either reward him with another contract or then make your splash for a big name.
And as far as proposed lineups, Willingham, Dukes, and Milledge are in. Milledge is going nowhere. Kearns is odd man out for sure. And if we sign dunn or teix, Johnson is a goner, probably to Oakland, who would treat him as the second coming of kevin youkilis. We could get a few pitching prospects, and I hear hudson street is on the table. Beane would for sure be all ears to a NJ for injury prone reliever talks.
by VA SLIM on Dec 17, 2008 1:45 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
"E"
In the event the NATS don’t sign “Tex”, have you prepared yourself mentally? Do you have a plan? I can only imagine the wrath you will bring upon the greater D.C. Metropolitan area. I for one am building my own fallout shelter with plenty of MRE’s (Meals Ready to Eat).
By the way, the spaghetti MRE is the best meal in the MRE arsenal.

" We got "The Rod"...What you got? "
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Dec 17, 2008 9:23 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Whoa!
I feel a bit silly here but…I just took a look at the roster for the Nats on MLB.com. It doesn’t look too dang bad at all as far as a batting lineup goes. If I had my druthers it would look something like this:
1. Milledge (CF)
2. Dukes (RF)
3. Willingham (LF)
4. Zimmerman (if there is a god, "Tex") (3B / 1B respectively)
5. Guzman (SS)
6. Johnson (1B)
7. Belliard / Hernandez (2B)
8. Flores ( C )
9. (P)
Now, if the NATS get “Tex”, he’s obviously your number 4 guy and then you’ve got Zimmerman behind him? How is this not a contending lineup? Isn’t it fair to assume that those top 6 batters will actually improve, even if just slightly, with their numbers for the ’09 season?
Buster Olney (ESPN) is about to get on my last nerve saying that the NATS aren’t contenders, even with “Tex”. See article. Sure, I’ll have to admit, you don’t go to the playoffs with below average pitching and you sure as heck don’t win in the playoffs with even average pitching, but to say that the NATS can’t be contenders if they get “Tex”? C’mon!
Click on link and scroll down to view his Dec 15th piece.
http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?name=olney_buster&action=login&appRedirect=http3a2f2finsider.espn.go.com2fespn2fblog2findex3fname3dolney_buster
" We got "The Rod"...What you got? "
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Dec 17, 2008 9:52 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Lineup w/"Tex"
1. Milledge (CF)
2. Dukes (RF)
3. Willingham (LF)
4. Teixeira (1B)
5. Zimmerman (3B)
6. Guzman (SS)
7. Belliard / Hernandez (2B)
8. Flores ( C )
9. (P)
Call me crazy, but that looks pretty respectable.
" We got "The Rod"...What you got? "
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Dec 17, 2008 9:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
CRAZY!
Wait a sec, that looks like a real line up.
"Next year we'll make it better." -- Mannyger Acta
by Doghouse on Dec 17, 2008 4:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
YESSIR!
" We got "The Rod"...What you got? "
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Dec 17, 2008 7:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lou
right on about no. 23, only with blueberry cobbler though. the old one not so much.
by VA SLIM on Dec 18, 2008 1:23 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
BLUEBERRY COBBLER? WTH?!
Someone is spoiled. ;-) If there is one candy I will never eat again, it is Charms Jolly Ranchers. Ugh!
" We got "The Rod"...What you got? "
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Dec 18, 2008 1:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ahh yeah
gotta update your stash man, berry cobbler’s been in spaghetti since 2007. L-E-G-I-T
of course I wouldn’t recommend it outside of military/survival situation where you have no other options.
by VA SLIM on Dec 19, 2008 1:19 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Can I play the role of the Rolling Stone reporter from HBO's Generation Kill...
…and ask, “Why no Charms?”…
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by Ed Chigliak on Dec 19, 2008 1:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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