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Who's Got The Biggest Offer? Can The Washington Nationals Outbid Baseball's Elite For Free Agent Mark Teixeira?

GROUP THINK...

...I trust in the wisdom of the federalbaseball.com readers, and so far 91 of you have spoken, with 92 votes total, my own included, and our collective opinion, at this moment, 12:38 pm EST on Friday December 19th, is that...(by a margin of 31 votes to 24, or 33% to 26% of those votes cast, in response to the question, "Will Mark Teixeira Accept the Washington Nationals' Offer?")...the 28-year old free agent first baseman, "Will SIgn With The NATIONALS!!!" Finishing second in the voting are those 24 voters or the 26% who think, "Teixeira Will Sign With Boston", though many probably voted before last night's events...The third biggest block of the voters, 19 total, or 20% percent of the vote, have Texeira returning to Anaheim, California with the Los Angeles Angels...

WHAT "THEY'RE" SAYING...

If Boston's exit from the race is a ruse, they're playing their role well, even convincing local newspaper writers to appear on ESPN to discuss what the Red Sox will do now that they've dropped out of the chase for Teixeira. 

New York still hasn't tipped its hand, at least publically, with any offer they may have extended completely under the radar, (which in the New York Media Matrix is nearly impossible)Yahoo! Sports' blogger David Brown's post this morning entitled, "Owner John Henry says the Red Sox lost the Mark Teixeira derby", (pointed out by VA Slim, thanks!), reported that in addition to the Red Sox' owner John Henry's statements last night, Teixeira's agent Scott "Maximum" Boras had emailed Mr. Brown's Yahoo! Sport's colleague Gordon Estes with the following missive:

"'The Boston ownership was kind enough to request and travel to meet with Mark Teixeira. While it was a very positive meeting, Mark was candid and advised he is in the process of making a decision and is now attempting to eliminate teams.'"

Washington Post writer Dave Sheinin goes all Jan Brady with the title of his most recent Nationals Journal post, "Teixeira, Teixeira, Teixeira", where Mr. Sheinin warns that he doesn't fully believe Boston's story of withdrawal from the race, and cautions that now is the time to watch out for New York. 

Tim Dierkes at mlbtraderumors.com has collected all the Teixeira news from around the country as of 9:33 am this morning in a post entitled, "Mark Teixeira Rumors: Friday", and the most interesting bit of reportage Mr. Dierkes cites comes from Mike Giovanni of the Los Angeles Times, who writes, in an article entitled, "Red Sox say they won't be a factor for Mark Teixeira", that he'd been texting Torii Hunter about the ongoing drama all night and the Angels' outfielder had exuded confidence in writing:

"'What the Angels did was spectacular, they gave him an offer that blew everyone away, and it shows how badly they want this guy,' Hunter said. 'I'm so happy they did that. I can sleep better at night. We can't let Tex go. He's very special on this team.'"

New York Post writer George A. King III quotes New York Yankees' GM Brian Cashman, in an article entitled, "Teixeira Too Rich For Red Sox", where Mr. Cashman says simply, "Not us" when asked if he knew who had gone overboard in their offer for Teixeira, and Mr. King's opinion adds credence Torii Hunter's claims, as Mr. King writes that of the three teams still believed to be involved if Boston is indeed out of the chase, the Nationals, Orioles, and Angels, "...the Angels were the favorite to be the one that topped the Red Sox offer."

Of course, that would mean, if you believe SI.com writer Jon Heyman's story yesterday entitled, "Red Sox still look like front-runners to win the Teixeira sweepstakes", the Angels would have had to have gone over the $200 million level some or Mr. Heyman's sources were claiming the Nationals had climbed to, though Mr. Heyman did offer the caveat, that if it wasn't Washington, then, "...someone else has."

MLB.com writer Tom Singer concluded early this morning, in an article posted at 1:32 am EST Friday and cleverly titled, "Hot Stove Roundup: Merry Tex-mas", that Red Sox' owner John Henry's claims of being outbid would seem to, "...remove the Orioles from the equation," but Mr. Singer then writes that, "...it might be folly to dismiss Teixeira's other hometown team, the Nationals," considering Teixeira's agents' history for setting precedents, or in Mr. Singer's words:

"True, the Nats lack the "winning tradition" entry on Teixeira's short checklist -- but, if agent Boras was able to sell Alex Rodriguez on the Texas Rangers in 2000, he could certainly sell Tex on the nation's capital in 2008."

The baseball world is still stuck on the news that the Red Sox have exited the race for the free agent first baseman, but no one has stepped up with proof of the "bigger offer", and even as more and more teams are eliminated, at least according to "unnamed sources", the Washington Nationals are still not being taken seriously as contenders for Mark Teixeira by anyone out there...Will "The Loose Cannon" Jim Bowden and the Washington Nationals be able to shock the world?

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I was wondering...

I heard the Nationals offered Tex 160/8. Is this offer confirmed by the Nationals, or is it simply speculation?

They only thing I know for sure is the Angels offered Tex an 8 year deal and Torri Hunter called it a “spectacular” offer. What it is in dollars is anybodys guess.

I also heard the Red Sox offer was 184/8, but then I read that a Sox official said it was untrue.

What are you guys hearing over here?

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by Angel Hawker on Dec 19, 2008 2:34 PM EST reply actions  

The 8-years/$160 from DC was quoted by "sources familiar with the negotiat...etc."

No one has ever published a $ amount along with the Angels’ 8-year offer as far as I’ve read, all the other numbers you cite are the same one i’ve read from various sources throughout the last week…

If the Sox were outbid, it must have been by NY, DC or LA…is as far as anyone’s going right now.

"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA

by Patrick Reddington on Dec 19, 2008 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not sure Tex is worth the $

and i still suspect Boston is in the mix…but it sure is nice to hear the Nats name in the media. I also wonder if signing Tex would have an impact that went beyond his on the field performance?

by eylf1004 on Dec 19, 2008 4:22 PM EST reply actions  

I'm a little confused by that question...but I'll try to answer what I "think" you're asking.

As I’m not the spokesperson for the Nationals blog (but I do love getting “Chiggy” w/"E"), IMO I think the impact that “TEX” would have on the Nationals and area as a whole would be very positive in this regard:

  • More interest by the casual fan in Nationals baseball. I think the Nationals are in an envious position because of their geographic location. Granted, D.C. doesn’t have a large metropolitan population (as of 2007 it was almost 590,000), however, the NATS can take advantage of eastern Virginia and some portions of western Maryland. There is one down side to Maryland. You have to compete against the Oriole fan base.
  • There is a constant stream of tourism here in D.C. especially during the spring and summer. Having “TEX” here will only help.
  • Acquiring “TEX” may show other MLB players that the NATS are serious about developing a contender. If there’s anything the NATS need other than a high profile and consistent bat, it’s pitching. We need it, in spades. Hopefully, a “TEX” acquisition will entice a moderate to above average arm…OR TWO.
  • Lastly, the development of the area known as “Half Street” adjacent to the ballpark. Due to the mess that is the economy right now, investment made be hard to come by for future projects, but the Half Street project continues. This will be an area northerly adjacent to the ballpark. It will contain restaurants, shopping and condominiums. There is definitely a demand for that around the stadium for before and after game entertainment. If you’re interested, check out the link below.

http://www.halfstreet.com/

" We got "The Rod"...What you got? "

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Dec 19, 2008 6:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Not sure either, eylf...

…especially because it’s bound to hamstring the organization’s spending in the future…so unless DC sees its system providing major-league-ready, low-cost prospects for the length of the potential Tex deal, I don’t know why they’d committ so much of their payroll to one player…

Do I see enough players in the system to fill out the roster over the next 8-years with Tex making $20-$22 million per? Not sure? Plus, how much do you have to pay Zimmerman if Teixeira’s making $20 million? Zim was the face of the franchise yesterday, now Tex would be…

As for beyond the field…I don’t know if one player could single-handedly raise enough interest to immediately rejuvenate the surrounding area…but a playoff run might?

"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA

by Patrick Reddington on Dec 19, 2008 9:44 PM EST up reply actions  

concur

" When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir? " - John Meynard Keynes

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Dec 19, 2008 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

sportscenter just reported

Boras wants 195 million over 8 years

by eylf1004 on Dec 19, 2008 6:04 PM EST reply actions  

I'd be careful with...

The New York Yankee version of sports journalism’s reporting. I got toasted on Amazin Avenue for reporting what I saw come across the ticker on ESPN in regards to an A.J. Burnett deal to Atlanta weeks ago. As soon as I saw the scroll, I leaped to my computer to write about it, only to find later on that a sportscaster @ ESPN yelled at one of the peons for putting that on the screen without a reliable source.

So…

" We got "The Rod"...What you got? "

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Dec 19, 2008 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

That Amazin Avenue is one tough crowd, Lou...

…don’t worry, Atlanta thought they had Burnett too, until the Yankees showed up…and Atlanta thought they had Furcal until his agent two-timed the Braves…speculation and conjecture is what the season is all about…oh that, presents, mistletoe and eggnog…

eylf…I heard that $195 number too…no evidence to support the claims thus far…

"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA

by Patrick Reddington on Dec 19, 2008 9:46 PM EST up reply actions  

as a result

they are making me do my homework. that’s a good thing.

" When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir? " - John Meynard Keynes

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Dec 19, 2008 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

GROUP THINK? "E", HOW DARE YOU!

Don’t you know that the president-elect is trying to remove that kind of behavior from Washington? ;-)

Well, for the next 12 hours I’ll be scouring the wonderful tool known as the internet for any breaking and VALID info about our hopeful savior, Mark Teixeira. Am I that dedicated you might be asking? Uh…no. I have to work tonight and it’s going to mind numbingly slow. So, I’ll make use of what time I have to try and provide as much up to date info on this silly business that is the baseball off-season and the derisive scuttle butting of sports journalism.

As a reminder (and no I don’t get paid for this) today while scouring the “net” I found out that MLB will launch the MLB Network on Jan 1st, 2009. I had been hearing about an MLB station for about a year now but I hadn’t seen anything solid. Today, almost by accident I found out that the channel will be ‘unleashed’ on Jan 1st. For you suckers with COMCAST I don’t know what channel it will be on or how much it will cost, but for those of you with DTV, it’ll be on Ch. 213. I for one, look forward to it.

You can go to mlb.com to take a tour of the show if you’re interested.

" We got "The Rod"...What you got? "

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Dec 19, 2008 6:39 PM EST reply actions  

This is going to be so weird if y'all sign him.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bdalebs on Dec 19, 2008 9:49 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed...even hearing the Nationals' name in all the talk is weird...

…and as I wrote, no one is taking their chances seriously…for example, check out the results of a recent AOL poll my friend Ottoman sent me…

Who will Teixeira sign with?
Red Sox – 37 2,324
Yankees – 32 1,929
Angels – 22 1,400
Orioles – 6 403
Nationals – 3% 215

Note on Poll Results

Total Votes: 6,271…

DC’s Nationals, The Rodney Dangerfield’s of Baseball.

"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA

by Patrick Reddington on Dec 19, 2008 9:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I love the Yankee assumption.

They haven’t even OFFERED a contract.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bdalebs on Dec 19, 2008 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Not publicly at least...

…never trust the Yankees.

"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA

by Patrick Reddington on Dec 19, 2008 10:12 PM EST up reply actions  

exactly

" When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir? " - John Meynard Keynes

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Dec 19, 2008 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, duh.

I’ve always assumed that the moment they make a deal crazy enough for me to take advantage of my proximity to their Spring Training HQ, they’ll move to Europe or somewhere else I can’t go.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bdalebs on Dec 19, 2008 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Polls...

You know what, just once I’d like to be polled, not poled.

" When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir? " - John Meynard Keynes

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Dec 19, 2008 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

odd...got cut off.

I find it strange that this potential deal has not had numerous leaks. I guess someone is doing a good job keeping a lid on this.

" When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir? " - John Meynard Keynes

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Dec 19, 2008 10:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Boras?

Except for his controlled BS leaks.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bdalebs on Dec 19, 2008 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I was speaking for the teams.

Not for “The Great Satan”

" When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir? " - John Meynard Keynes

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Dec 19, 2008 10:51 PM EST up reply actions  

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