How did you become a Nationals fan?
**(ed. note - This has gotten such a nice response, I'm gonna pop it back on the front page from time to time...Thanks, MattHaggard.)
So I'm a Cubs fan.But I swear I'm not here to troll. ^^
Anyway, I have a question for all of you. I always wondered where a new franchise builds its fanbase from.
Did most of you just transfer over from being fans of the Expos to being fans of the Nats? Are some of you misplaced and disgruntled former Orioles fans?
How about baseball newcomers? Did having a alternative baseball team in the DC area make some of you former non-baseball fans into Nationals fans?
This has always made me curious and I really would like to know. Thanks for reading and replying and it's nice to meet ya'll.
Come by and chat at BleedCubbieBlue from time to time.
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redskins fan
living near Richmond, VA as a kid most guys are Atlanta Braves fans since their AAA team is located there. I never made that fan jump from AAA Braves fan to MLB Braves fan. But everyone loves the Skins in my area, so I guess I was holding out for a MLB team to move close to my area. As soon as the Expos moved to DC I immediately jumped on board. It’s great to have a MLB team within 100 miles of home finally.
by VA SLIM on Dec 21, 2008 6:25 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'm an O's fan
But the Nats fanbase is based on DC loyalties. When the Ravens came to Baltimore, we had a football team in both DC and Baltimore again, and the Ravens got very popular, very quickly. It was helped a lot by the Super Bowl win.
When the Nats start playing good baseball, you’ll see how much DC will embrace a team that is NOT BALTIMORE.
I dunno, the question being asked is interesting. In general, a league won’t put a team in a new city unless they’re sure that they can compete with the other nearby franchises.
The Houston Texans can compete with the Coyboys because even though they didn’t have a football team for a while, the parents kept the “you HATE Dallas” instilled in their children….
The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST
by the fix is in on Dec 21, 2008 11:27 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I need to clarify
that the Orioles suck pretty bad too. I feel like I called the Nats a bad team in that comment, without admitting the Orioles are too…
The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST
by the fix is in on Dec 21, 2008 11:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Old Expos fan who made the move south...
…after watching Montreal get run into the ground, i stuck with the team upon their move to DC…and the promise of better days….they keep promising…
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by Ed Chigliak on Dec 21, 2008 12:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I wasn't the only one, huh?
The difference is I have no hope of better days. :)
by Graysnail on Dec 21, 2008 12:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There are a few of us left...
…surprisingly, since I’ve kept the Expos’-love alive, a few of them come around here once in a while.
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by Ed Chigliak on Dec 21, 2008 2:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My blood runs deep Orange and Blue...
For the METS.
HOWEVA! I’ve been living in D.C. for almost two years. I’d say I’m a rabid baseball fan more than anything else. I’m not your typical stats guy, I just enjoy watching, cheering and talking about baseball.
I’m proud to have been a part of the building of the Nationals fan base in the first year. (They’ve received plenty of my money in the form of tickets, concessions and swag.)
I enjoy cheering for the NATS except…WHEN MY BELOVED METS COME TO TOWN. On that day? Fagettaboudit! METS all the way sweetheart!
By the way, my buddy ( a Cubs fan ) introduced me to SB NATION site. So I guess Cubs fans are good for sumthin’! ;-)
" When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir? " - John Meynard Keynes
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Dec 21, 2008 2:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Clarification: "...Nationals fan base in the first year."
@ Nationals Park that is.
" When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir? " - John Meynard Keynes
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Dec 21, 2008 11:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"Native"
I grew up in Northern Virginia without a home team. Sure, I had the Yankees because my mom worked for them and my grandfather was born and raised on the same street as Yankee Stadium, but they were not the home team. I started blogging about the possibility of a team in 2004, after vowing not to get into the latest talk of a team coming to D.C. — it was a triumph of hope over experience, plus the need for something to write about during the infancy of the blog. I went to the very first Nats game ever, Opening Day 2005. I have since been to every home opener here.
Blogging about D.C. Baseball since April '04. Penn State alum. Also partial to the Washington Capitals, New York Yankees and Yale football.
by WFY on Dec 21, 2008 2:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I was at the last home Expos' game, the first Nationals' game in RFK and the first in Nationals Park...
….can’t wait to go the Nationals’ first playoff game.
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by Ed Chigliak on Dec 21, 2008 2:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wanted to get in on the ground floor with my kids
I grew up a Mets fan, and a football Giants fan. I was far more into baseball, though, and rabid for my Mets. However, when I came here in 1991, I had more and more trouble keeping up with, and eventually relating to the team. As the Washington area strove to get a team, and as Peter Angelos threw every roadblock he could in the way, I became more and more interested in DC getting a team.
By the time 2005 came around, I had married and had three children. The desire to have a team to share with them, and a ball club I could watch live, made me very willing to sign on with the Nats. Just try to see a Mets game at Shea when you live in North Central New Jersey, where I was as a kid.
I did not abandon the Giants, but it makes sense. I grew up a Giants fan, and hated the Redskins all my life. There was no baseball team in Washington to root against, and Montreal was hardly ever good enough to even take seriously, if I wanted for some reason to transfer distaste for the team to DC. I didn’t, though- I always liked the Expos as an exotic and clever franchise.
by Positively Half St. on Dec 21, 2008 2:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
oh, and I am for Yale, too
But it doesn’t do one good to care too much about Ivy League sports.
by Positively Half St. on Dec 21, 2008 2:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Looking forward to seeing how Half St. helps the Nats and the community.
" When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir? " - John Meynard Keynes
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Dec 21, 2008 3:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Being a fan
I don’t know how or when I decided to be a baseball fan, but somehow the experience seems to be incomplete without an affiliation with a particular team. I was a seNATors fan as a kid, rooting for my heros Jim Lemmon, Roy Sievers, Frank Howard, Eddie Brinkman, Claude Osteen, et al, from the seats reserved for little leaguers. I became an Orioles fan when the Senators were torn away from us TWICE! I really couldn’t stay an Orioles fan after Angelos flushed the “Oriole Way” down the toilet, but I kind of stayed a Cal Ripken fan until he retired. To me (emotionally) the Washington Nationals are the reincarnation of the Senators of my youth, and have nothing to do with some expansion team in from the Great White North.
by Gusto on Dec 21, 2008 7:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'd bet Cal Ripken is responsible for a lot of DC-based fans cheering the O's...and rightly so...
…I also completely understand your lack of interest in the Expos…and just think DC fans shouldn’t deny Montreal fans the type of memories you write about above…for me it was Dawson, Raines and Carter, Randy Johnson, Pedro Martinez, (for a minute each), El Presidente Dennis Martinez, DeShields, Grissom…Vladimir Guerrero and Orlando Cabrera…and don’t forget the pinwheel caps…
The more I read about DC baseball history, though, the more I appreciate some of the names you mention…Did you see any Frank Howard moonshots? I wish there was some reference to the “White Seats in the Outfield” in Nationals Park…
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by Ed Chigliak on Dec 21, 2008 8:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A few...
Yes I saw a few in person, and more of course on TV. The Senators highlight that sticks in my mind the most though was a radio highlight (maybe Johnny Holiday announcing?) of a Roy Sievers shot that hit the top of the fence, bounced up, hit the top of the fence AGAIN, and then back into play. The way the announcer captured the outfielders suspense … hovering there waiting for it …me in the darkened bedroom praying for the Home Run…was magic!
Expos fans are more than welcome to their memories, Senators fans should be the last to dispute that, it just doesn’t mean much to us. I mean, to me as a kid, the National League was in another world!
by Gusto on Dec 22, 2008 8:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Teixeira update...
Angels pulling out of bidding…
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3785901
This entire deal is completely bizarre. Of all of the players out there, this isn’t the kind of guy that I thought would be wrapped up in such a strange situation. The guy seems to be a great player along with being a no-nonsense fella. What’s the big secret and why is this thing taking so long? I’m assuming it’s just the way Boras (The Great Satan) handles business.
" When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir? " - John Meynard Keynes
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Dec 21, 2008 8:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I grew up a Cards fan but...
I’m an Army brat. My Dad’s passion, not team, passion was the Cards. We moved here in ‘75 and I never got into the O’s, American league, blah… My brother and I went to Freedom sq I believe it was to a baseball team in DC rally some years ago, I think was always wanted our own team to route for. Then the Expos come here and become the Nats. That first year was weird I followed the Cards and the Nats and went to the first game at RFK vs the Cards. I went into the game believing that I was still a Cards fan and was looking forward to watching Pujols playing etc and so on. Then a weird thing happened he got kicked out of the game. The Cards kept piling it on and we were losing 6-0 before I knew it and I was pissed off. That’s when it hit me I’m a Nats fan. I still have a warm feeling about the Cards since my Dad’s passed on but I’m all about the Nats now. Following the farm system and the big club and hoping apond hope that the Lerners start spending money and bring us a winner. Hey, Ted Leonsis did it for the Caps why not the Lerners for the Nats. Let’s hope Mark’s learned something from Ted at Lincoln holdings… There’s always hope. Even a fools hope, eh…
by Berndaddy on Dec 21, 2008 9:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
ExYankees and Mets
I grew up in northern NJ, rooting for Mantle and Maris in ‘61. Prayed for the yankees to beat the Pirates. Pleaded for our teacher to let us listen to the series on the radio. My neighbor and his father hated the Yankees and were dejected when the Giants and Dodgers left town. They took me to the Polo Grounds in ’62 to see the Mets play, and I was hooked on the Mets from that day. I would still root for the Yanks, though.
I moved to northern VA in ’82. Half-heartedly rooted for the O’s and Cal. Prayed for a team in DC or Virginia so we could root, root , root for the home team. I took the kids to see the Cannons play many times, and it was fun. Still have Ankiel’s sig on a baseball.
When MLB decided to move the Expos to DC, we bought season tickets on the first base side, in the shade at RFK. Had a great time there, first place until the all-star break. So now I am a Nats fan. Those Mets fans are so obnoxious, aren’t they?
Since times are financially tough, bought ten games from a group, behind home plate below the press box. I like the new stadium. Hopefully Tex will choose the Nats and we won’t be plagued by injuries like last year.
by OldArt on Dec 22, 2008 10:22 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Obnoxious? Who, me?
OldArt,
Dear, dear friend. In order to show the diplomatic side of New York Mets fandom, when the Mets come to town, I would be more than happy to buy you a highly overpriced, domestic beer of your choosing. I won’t be hard to find. In keeping with the tradition of New York Mets obnoxiousness, I will be sporting some outlandishly garish, New York Mets paraphernalia. Such as that seen below:

" When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir? " - John Meynard Keynes
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Dec 22, 2008 10:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Old Art
if i were you i would take the offer
My country saved me. My country saved me, and I cannot forget it. And I will fight for her for as long as I draw breath, so help me God." John McCain
by brownbuddha on Dec 22, 2008 10:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LOUtheMETSfan
Dear Lou,
I will be sure and try to get at least one ticket to see the Mets when we choose games in January. I’ll be in section 313, not sure of the seat yet. If you can manage to put your cigarette out and climb up to the upper deck, I will gladly give you one of my Nationals t-shirts in exchange for a Guinness (sorry, I don’t like domestic beer all that much). Are you from Queens?
by OldArt on Dec 22, 2008 12:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, Mets fans and DC fans getting along...
…if that can happen, maybe DC signing Teixeiera is possible!!
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by Ed Chigliak on Dec 22, 2008 2:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Meet Up
Old Art and Lou having a drink together, the fans of the National or just fans of baseball should meet up for a drink at one of the local bars in the stadium before a game, I know that there are not a lot that get on this site but it would be cool.
My country saved me. My country saved me, and I cannot forget it. And I will fight for her for as long as I draw breath, so help me God." John McCain
by brownbuddha on Dec 22, 2008 3:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Old Art
Don’t know how I missed your reply / invitation. Keep your eyes peeled here on the Nats site and we’ll definitely meet up for an “import”.
I’m not from New York. I’ve only been to New York (Manhattan) once. Back in May of ‘98. LOVED IT! I’m a METS fan by way of Jerry Seinfeld…Long story. I’ll be making a trip up to see Citi Field sometime this summer.
I'm a baseball fan. What did you expect?
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jan 3, 2009 7:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Baseball Fan Bud Man
First of all I am a Cubs fan and always will be and also I don’t believe in having a team in the National League and the American League. But I do enjoy watching baseball and I love watching baseball that is close to home, I do root for the nationals when they are playing everyone except the Cubs, but I do wish the Nationals the best of luck and I want them to get Tex I think it will bring in a lot of fan in plus with all the bars and restaurant on H street will be a good time.
My country saved me. My country saved me, and I cannot forget it. And I will fight for her for as long as I draw breath, so help me God." John McCain
by brownbuddha on Dec 22, 2008 11:14 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
You don't "believe"?
This is baseball…Not religion. Wait…
" When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir? " - John Meynard Keynes
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Dec 22, 2008 12:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
First Hand
I became a Nats fan when my uncle invited me to go to a game. I didn’t know that much about baseball, but now i’m a die-hard fan because of that game.
(I made this up)
Seen on a tanning bed warning label:
WARNING: Excessive tanning can cause cancer and get you placed on the terrorist watch list.
by ChrisKo on Jan 3, 2009 3:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
transplanted yankee fan
I grew up a Yankee fan and moved to No VA in 94. I could not bring myself to follow the O’s, as a rival. I still followed the Yankees when I moved here but found it hard without the day to day media coverage. I know a lot of fans think the Yankees win all the time, but I recall the early 70s and early 90s teams, that left a lot to be desired. I am patiently awaiting the Nats to re-build the scraps left over from MLB rape of Montreal.
My biggest concern is that DC is such a HUGE football town that casual fans will lose interest in the NATs if they don’t show some promise and the novelty of the new team and stadium wear off. I also worry that the team will overreact to this pressure and look for short term solutions to attract media/fan interest and have a first decade like the Rays (i.e., Castilla, Conseco, Vaughn, etc).
Also, the local media coverage of the Nats is pitiful. The papers hardly ever have any articles, the local news broadcasters cannot even pronounce players’ names, talk radio hosts only talk about the Skins’ even during the spring and summer, and MASN is a joke. We have a long way to go…..but, hope springs eternal.
by vaclipper on Jan 4, 2009 10:35 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Twas a long journey
I grew up watching the Orioles only to have them constantly break my heart as they ripped the team into pieces. My dad grew up in NY so I was a mets fan for the next 5-6, with the Nats in my hometown I fell in love.
Those first few years at RFK were amazing, me and 5 buddies would hop in the car, drive literally 10 minutes straight into the parking lot. With parking and college student discounts, it only cost 4-6 bucks to see a game… those were two of the best summers of my life.
www.TheNatsBlog.com
by yardyoder on Jan 5, 2009 5:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
24 Year Wait
As a life-long DC sports fan, there had always been a hole in my sports soul where a local baseball team should have been. My family never touched Baltimore teams (the Bullets being the exception once they moved to DC) and I remained steadfastly anti-Oriole (although steadfastly pro-Oriole greats like Ripken, Palmer, Murray, Robinson, etc). As a Baltimorean now for several years, I still take pride in cheering for the other team when we go to Camden Yards. Now, as a 27 year old, it’s been worth the 24 year wait to have a real hometown team. Plus we get to create the traditions and history that have made other clubs so great!
by kungpow12 on Jan 5, 2009 6:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Always wanted a home town team.....
I grew up in Vermont, so the Expos were actually the closest franchise to me as a kid, although the area I lived in was primarily Red Sox and Yankees fans. The first baseball game I ever went to was an Expos game, back when they had Andres Galaraga. While I was never a huge Expos fan, I liked them just fine, and would root for them a little bit – but more importantly I was just a huge baseball fan.
I moved to Washington, DC in the fall of 2004 – right as the Expos were getting ready to move down to DC as well. As a huge baseball fan who had always lived in rural areas, I had never experienced what it was like to have a hometown team, where you could hop on the metro and go to a game whenever you wanted. The excitement of finally having a team I could call my own appealed to me, and I informed all my friends that regardless of how awful they were going to be, I was 100% committed to being a Nats fan. I’ve grown to like and obsess about them more and more each year, and still go to about 15 games a year.
by NatsSoGood on Jan 5, 2009 7:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I was an Expos fan my whole life...
…also spent 5 years living in VT while in and after school at Johnson State College!!!
If only the Nationals had their own Galarraga, they could stop all this silly Dunn talk…
Live in NJ now…still don’t have a hometown team of my own, but I stuck with the ExpoNationals…
As for obsessing over the Nationals…That’s something I can’t understand…
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by Ed Chigliak on Jan 5, 2009 11:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They're my neighborhood team...
I hadn’t followed baseball much at all since being a Dodger fan as a kid in California (late 70s through late 80s). When the Nats arrived, a friend got a 20-game plan out in center field and invited me along to a few games—I was hooked! A “new” team (sorry, Ed) right in my neighborhood (RFK and Nats park about 20-30 min walks from the house… sorry, Ed)… who could resist? Mrs. Doghouse and I have had half-season tickets even since, and we’re setting up a weekend Spring Training pilgrimage.
I hope to one day wear my increasingly-ratty curly-W hat from ’05 while watching the Nats in the playoffs.
Let’s Go Nats Go!
"Next year we'll make it better." -- Mannyger Acta
by Doghouse on Jan 6, 2009 10:04 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Is your ballcap at least washed? Or is it encrusted with salt sweat like this one?

" Well isn't this place a geographical oddity? Two weeks from everywhere! "
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jan 6, 2009 11:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No washing until we're world champions! Or at least Wild Cards.
Hmm, why doesn’t my wife want to sit next to me at games anymore?
"Next year we'll make it better." -- Mannyger Acta
by Doghouse on Jan 6, 2009 1:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ha!
By that time, all you may have left is the rim of the cap.
In high school I had a favorite baseball cap (of our high school) and I wore it day in and day out. It was like putting on my underwear. …However, I did wash the cap…And my underwear.
" Well isn't this place a geographical oddity? Two weeks from everywhere! "
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jan 6, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Last time I was in DC...
…with my horribly sweat-stained red Nationals’ cap from 2005, one of the sales people in the Team Store actually suggested I should get a new cap, and I responded, “No, this one’s good luc…Uh, maybe you’re right.”
But if my Nationals’ cap is bad…my 26-year-old Montreal Expos tri-color pinwheel cap is just awful…
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by Ed Chigliak on Jan 6, 2009 5:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There was this guy in high school...
…(you know, as much as high school was perhaps the worst time in my life, i can’t believe i’m able – or willing – to mention it in regards to baseball).
Anyhow, this guy in high school ALWAYS wore a EXPOS cap and for whatever reason I thought the logo was a red, white and blue “elb”. I had no idea it was capital, cursive “M”. I just thought it stood for something in French. (yes, i do realize i’m showing my ‘stupid’ side, but i just thought it was an inter….never mind).
Does anyone else see an “elb”?

There wasn’t much of a Montreal fan base in Knoxville, Tn except for that one guy who wore the cap. Strangely enough, at the time, there was a decent fan base for the AA affiliate of the Toronto Blue Jays there in Knoxville.
…geez, it’s a slow news night.
" Well isn't this place a geographical oddity? Two weeks from everywhere! "
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jan 6, 2009 6:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's a running joke in Expos-land, Lou.
…either that or that they thought it was something in French…
eMb…Montreal Expos baseball…
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by Ed Chigliak on Jan 17, 2009 3:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No kiddin?
Neat.
That eMb visual – Pretty imaginative. Someone @ the Mets patch design group needs to contact whomever designed this Expos logo.
" PLEASE! CHANGE THE PATCH! "
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jan 17, 2009 3:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just a a baseball fan
I like the White Sox.I like basically all baseball teams, except division rival Detroit Tigers. The Nationals also have a very exciting new stadium and they have a very exciting and good GM. They also have cool uniforms.
The Trade-Maker
by dasox313 on Jan 13, 2009 4:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
(Don't tell anyone)...but...
(The Expos’ uniforms are probably the #1 reason I started to like them as a wee tyke…c’mon that pinwheel tri-coleur cap is still slick!!!)
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by Ed Chigliak on Jan 13, 2009 5:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why would I want to be a Nationals fan ?
by ottomanrx on Jan 17, 2009 1:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Cause Screech is a better mascot?
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by Ed Chigliak on Jan 17, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ahahahahahahahahaha!
Ottomanrx, you set yourself up for that one partna!
" PLEASE! CHANGE THE PATCH! "
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jan 17, 2009 3:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Screech would totally beat Mr. Met in a Bobble-Off
"Next year we'll make it better." -- Mannyger Acta
by Doghouse on Jan 17, 2009 6:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Screech turned out to be an
ODB.
" PLEASE! CHANGE THE PATCH! "
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jan 17, 2009 10:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is a family friendly site, so I won't include the videos here...but if someone were to say, google...
Mr. Met and Conan O’Brien, Mr. Met’s sordid history is, uh, laid…uh…bare…
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by Ed Chigliak on Jan 17, 2009 11:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
(Rubbing hands together w/an evil grin)
Here I come google!
" PLEASE! CHANGE THE PATCH! "
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jan 17, 2009 11:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
typical
the video has been removed. If a certain someone could locate it, I’m sure that someone wouldn’t mind emailing it to me.
" PLEASE! CHANGE THE PATCH! "
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jan 18, 2009 12:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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