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What Will It Take To Make Baseball Take Washington's Nationals Seriously? or Is The Pursuit Of Mark Teixeira Enough?

If you were to judge the current state of the pursuit of free agent first baseman Mark Teixeira by what you read this morning in, say, the Sunday New York Times, in an article by New York Times' writer Michael S. Schmidt entitled, "Yanks Keep Eye On Teixeira And Wait", you'd be led to believe that the 28-year-old switch-hitting Teixeira is choosing from a three team field of suitors which includes the Boston Red Sox, whose recent drama-filled negotiations have spilled over into the press, the Anaheim Angels, who are described by Mr. Schimidt as, "...one of the front-runners," and New York's Yankees, even though as the article's title hints, the Yankees have not yet made the monetary value of their "interest" in Teixeira public knowledge. 

Mr. Schmidt cites two sources "in baseball with knowledge of the matter" who claim that the Yankees are, "...for the moment...unwiling to pay him more than the $160 million over eight years", that several teams in the chase initially offered last week, while also noting that Boston owner John Henry and LA Angels' owner Arte Moreno may have already gone as high as $170 million over the same eight years...

Now right about now you might be wondering? Uh? Aren't the Washington Nationals still alive in the chase for Teixeira? Well you wouldn't know it by reading the New York Times, and granted it's a NY paper with a Yankee slant, but you'd think the Nationals deserved at least a mention, especially if you've read MLB.com's Lyle Spencer and Bill Ladson's collaborative effort on an article entitled, "Teixeira's decision could come soon", where they write that "geography and family" will play a role in the decision, and claim to have spoken to:

"...members of the D.C. media, familiar with Nationals owner Ted Lerner, who think the Nationals are the club most likely to approach Boras' early target of 10 years and $200 million."

Another NY-based writer, Bill Madden of the New York Post wrote an article this weekend entitled, "Mark Teixeira saga drags on as Scott Boras looks for that 'One Dumb Owner'", where Mr. Madden writes that while the big-spending Angels and Red Sox are still in the mix, he suspects Boras may have identified the Washington Nationals as this year's target, describing the DC ballclub as:

"a perennial doormat...desperate to generate enthusiasm from their disillusioned fan base with a high-profile signing."

...and Mr. Madden goes on to write that, "Indeed...":

"...the Nats' Ted Lerner more and more looks to be emerging as this year's prime candidate for the "One Dumb Owner" (in the mold of Texas' Tom Hicks) Boras always seems to bamboozle into onerous contracts they immediately come to regret." 

So, no one outside DC is taking the Washington Nationals seriously. The New York Times denies, or at least ignores, the Nationals' interest in Teixeira. The New York Post thinks Washington is making a mistake of A-Rod-in-Texas-sized proportions in even pursuing Tex, and ESPN.com's Buster Olney would seem to agree with the Post's Mr. Madden, as Mr. Olney is on record describing the Nationals' pursuit of Teixeira as "lunacy".  

But Washington Post writer Chico Harlan's article today entitled, "Just By Pursuing Teixeira, Nats Are Making a Move", however, claims that it's not so important that the national media pays attention to the Nationals' attempts to sign Teixeira, (which Mr. Harlan admits is a longshot) as it is important that Washington let its players and fans know that they are willing to spend with the big teams, with Mr. Harlan going so far as to write that even if Teixeira doesn't ultimately choose to come to DC:

"...either way, as Teixeira and his agent, Scott Boras, sort through the various offers, Washington already has bolstered its self-image."

Newly-re-signed DC outfielder Willie Harris lends support to Mr. Harlan's claims in a quote Mr. Harlan includes in the article where Mr. Harris explains what he thinks the team's pursuit of the top free agent on the market means:

"'...it definitely shows the rest of the players -- everybody else in the clubhouse, everybody else in the organization -- that it's time for a change'...'Whether we get Tex or not, just trying to get him shows everybody else in the clubhouse that it's time to win...God knows, I hope Tex comes here.'"

I wrote a while back that I didn't really think the Nationals were going to spend the way they'd have to in order to get Teixiera, and therefore, allowing fans to thinks they were actually in the chase for Teixeira could backfire on the franchise, and I was pleasantly surprised to see that, (at least according to unnamed sources), their interest in Teixeira was for real, (whether or not I think upwards of $20M per is a wise investment for a team that's still not rebuilt to the point of being competitive)...and I'll admit that following the reports of DC's involvement in the pursuit of Teixeira has kept me interested in the Hot Stove news this winter in a way I haven't been in recent years...but will that pursuit be enough? If Washington doesn't sign Teixeira, and goes into Spring Training with big questions remaining at first...two questionable pitchers and an injured outfielder as the only additions to the roster...and a boatload of young, unproven pitching to choose from for their starting rotation...will the fact they would have been willing to spend a lot on a free agent if said free agent had been interested in playing for them be enough? Will it be enough if DC loses 90-100 games again? Will you be satisfied that DC tried? Or angry that they once again came up short?

-- (ed. note - "Maybe people will start to take DC seriously when they read that the Angels have dropped out of the race? ESPN.com's Jerry Crasnick's article entitled, "Sources: Angels stop pursuing Teixeira", claims that "a baseball source" says the Angels, "withdrew their eight-year offer."...Now it's East Coast teams only, unless LA's bluffing like everyone thought Boston was when they reportedly walked away from the negotiating table late last week, only to quickly return and restate their continued interest in Teixeira...Who knows? The Hot Stove is full of lies...thanks for the link, Lou.")

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If Washington Loses Out In The Teixeira Sweepstakes...?
That's it! I'm done with the Nationals.
5 votes
At least they tried.
28 votes
They'd better sign another first baseman fast!
15 votes
There's always Giambi?
3 votes
They can just bring up Larry Broadway.
9 votes

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Didn't Nader ask USA Today why they cover y'all...

when they told him that he’s wasn’t being covered because he had no chance to win? Another reason why a Nader vote is basically a thrown-away vote.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Dec 21, 2008 9:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The only thrown-away vote, or wasted vote, is one for someone you don't believe in...

…uh, yes Ralph Nader did say that too…

That was just about the funniest quote I heard all year…I think it was the Washington Post though, not USA Today…

"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA

by Ed Chigliak on Dec 21, 2008 9:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Damn emails.

It’s like that old game we’d play as kids where you sit in a circle and whisper something in the next person’s ear, and they’d repeat it to the next person. “Telephone” is what we called it, I think.

I think I would rather have people choose between two candidates that will have an impact, even if they view one as the lesser of two evils. That’s just my opinion. And if Nader said that immediately, on a phone call or in person, then he’s one the best at making comebacks, EVER.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Dec 21, 2008 10:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

One word

Win.

When the Cubs and Rays played in Tampa in mid-June of ’08 I posted a poll in my fantasy league stating: “The Cubs and Rays look like the best teams in baseball at this point of the season. Do you think this is a preview of the World Series?” I was basically laughed out of the league.

The Rays made it to the WS. During the season when they were proving themselves, no one took them seriously. ESPN (the bastion of north eastern baseball coverage) constantly talked about the Red Sox and Yankees paying little heed to the Rays. My point is, unless you are a franchise that has a long tradition of winning big (Yankees) or losing big (Red Sox, Cubs) and are beloved, your team won’t be taken seriously.

Day after day, sports pundits constantly state: “Small market teams aren’t good for ratings. No one wants to see the Kansas City Royals vs. the Seattle Mariners.” I listen to a lot, and I mean a lot of sports radio and there is a true bias against teams that aren’t “big market” or part of the northeastern triumvirate; Yanks, Sox, Mets.

Ever since the classic comeback of Boston vs. the Yankees in the ’04 ALCS, Boston has truly garnered some respect and a lot of t.v. time.

Even if the Nats, by some freak event, happened to get into the World Series this season, they would ONLY tie with a team for doing the impossible. Going from worst in their league to playing in the World Series, ala, the Tampa Bay Rays. Can you imagine? 41,888 people in Nationals Ballpark screaming their heads off. I can. I think it would a great atmosphere because Washington fans are pretty passionate fans. (Just go to a Redskins game…They’re nuts!)

Even if the Nats were to win the WS, that still wouldn’t garner them any respect in the eyes of mainstream media. Sure, locally, it would be a thing of beauty. The only thing that gets true respect is a tradition of winning. Winning for a long time.

" When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir? " - John Meynard Keynes

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Dec 21, 2008 10:17 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Change Name to Yankees or Red Sox

Seriously, the Mariners were a playoff contender in the mid-90’s and early 2000’s….they had future hall of famers like Ken Griffey, Jr., Randy Johnson and Ichiro Suzuki et. al. and it still didn’t matter. I remember arguing with a Yankees fan prior to the 2001 ALCS. He asked “Who have the M’s beaten anyway?” The answer? Simply every team they played. They won 116 games that year. They didn’t lose a series until after 9/11 happened. They should have been the story every night on ESPN. But nope…still Yanks / Sox…night after night after night.

 The national baseball press is so totally focussed on exactly two teams that it practically doesn’t matter what happens anywhere else. Let alone in the corner of the nation with the fewest ball clubs. I seriously doubt the Nationals will be able to change that if even the Cubs, Phillies and Devil Rays can’t.

by short on Dec 21, 2008 10:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Mmmm Hmmm

Yep. I’d agree. Keep in mind what I said earlier; it takes a long tradition of winning / being a contender before a team is going to get recognition by the national media. Look at how dominant the Angels were the entire year last year. I don’t remember hearing squat about them. All you would here on t.v. or radio was: “They’re really good.” They would be included on the nights highlight reel and…peep. Over.

Even on ESPN’s Baseball Tonight (which I consider to be pretty good analytainment), the Angels were hardly given their due.

Look, I could write about this for a long, long time. Perhaps I’ll just create a fan post and see what kind of traffic my rambling can generate. Right now, I’m in a high cholesterol induced coma from eating wings, ribs and pizza and washing it down with overpriced imports while watching way too much football. Wait, did I just say that?

In conclusion, that’s the great thing about blogs. Fans can actually get info on what they care about and air their grievances. No longer are fans only beholden to the once great newspaper.

  • I still read the paper. ;-)

" When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir? " - John Meynard Keynes

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Dec 21, 2008 10:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Time difference matters some

ESPN can’t show highlights for games that haven’t happened yet…so West Coast teams are screwed that way no matter what. But that doesn’t affect the Cub or Rays. And if the Yanks moved to the moon they’d still find a way to spend half of Baseball Tonight blabbing about them.

by short on Dec 21, 2008 10:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Still a noob

must…click…reply…

by short on Dec 21, 2008 10:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Thank goodness for the MLB Network starting on Jan. 1

Hopefully they’ll have some “complete” coverage of the league.

" When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir? " - John Meynard Keynes

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Dec 21, 2008 11:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

I hate the ever-revolving door of a daytime soap opera that is the yankees v. red sox rivalry, but that is why it is always on. You either hate the teams or love them, but everyone has an opinion. No one simply “does not” care or has no opinion on those two, they would check love or loath. For that reason, they will always be at the forefront of marketing. I do wish we could have unbiased coverage, of politics and sports. So I look forward to an mlb tv also.

by VA SLIM on Dec 22, 2008 2:32 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

To answer the question:

Signing Teix won’t change anything. Well, unless you think the A-Rod signing catapulted Texas to the realm of respectability. Or Ichiro alone made the Mariners contenders. If it makes free agents take Washington seriously, that’s a plus, but one signing alone won’t change that.

by Graysnail on Dec 22, 2008 7:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I've said pretty much from the start that I didn't think Washington was ready for such a commitment...

…but it’s starting to look like the Nationals might end up with Tex by default, since everyone’s dropping out of the chase…Don’t know if it’ll be as bad as Texas, cause they didn’t have Mike “I Built The D-Backs” Rizzon stocking the Rangers system, but I can easily see how a contract this big could quickly become an albatross on DC…let’s hope it turns out to be a Pudge to the Tigers type deal, or, and I hate myself for saying this…A Pedro to the Mets type move that convinces other free agents that the Nationals are serious about winning…

"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA

by Ed Chigliak on Dec 22, 2008 7:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The contract isn't necessarily an albatross, but:

It depends on what else happens around him. The problem with the A-Rod deal wasn’t the deal (well, Hicks bidding against himself was part of the problem), but the fact that the Rangers had nothing around him. There wasn’t – or at least there was no evidence of – the Rangers making a successful effort to surround A-Rod with the talent to make him competitive; at best the efforts were lackluster. The danger, of course, is the same thing happening here. That being said, the system has a lot more depth than what it had even a few years ago; if some of the kids pan out we’ll be in decent shape.

Really, I think the key if the Nats sign Tex is nailing the 1st pick. The minors have decent depth and a few stars if they pan out (I have some questions on what happens to Marrero, but that’s an issue for another day if the signing happens), but IMO they lack the true showstopper. This is their chance.

by Graysnail on Dec 22, 2008 9:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

“Nailing the first pick” would give the Nationals what the Rangers never had…and still don’t, A True Ace…that is, taking for granted that Strasburg is as good as he appears to be…

IF they sign Teixeira (notice the BIG ’IF’), it can’t be the only step…but a first one…sign Tex, draft and sign Strasburg, (and as many ‘09 picks as possible, which DC’s been good about…let’s just forget about Crow)…ink Zimmerman long-term…keep bringing Smiley Gonzalez along to eventually replace Guzman…hope Anderson Hernandez pans out or Belliard rediscovers his youth…etc.

WIth or without Tex….the idea of a Strasburg, Lannan, Detwiler, Martis and Balester 2010 rotation has me excited…

"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA

by Ed Chigliak on Dec 22, 2008 10:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, I had forgotten about Crow.

That’s two high picks this year.

by Graysnail on Dec 23, 2008 7:07 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I hope they pick him again out of spite...

(not really)

"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA

by Ed Chigliak on Dec 24, 2008 12:14 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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