Game Thread: Washington Nationals at Pittsburgh Pirates- 2008 Game 67 of 162. "Conflicting Stories Out Of DC? (ed. note - 'And It's Got Nothing To Do With Scott McClellan.')"
Washington Nationals @ Pittsburgh Pirates
Headlines...
"Acta confronts Dukes in Nats' dugout" by MLB.com's Bill Ladson.
"Power display chares emotion: Acta, Dukes get into tiff." by Washington Times writer Mark Zuckerman.
Washington Post Staff Writer Chico Harlan doesn't reference last night's "incident in the dugout" between Nationals' Manager Manny Acta and DC outfielder Elijah Dukes in the title of his article, "Milledge Caps Off A Long Night", but Mr. Harlan does acknowledge the incident, writing:
"After the homer, a television camera caught Acta and Dukes engaged in what appeared to be a spirited conversation."
What were they having a "spirited conversation" about? If you haven't heard by now, MLB.com's Bill Ladson elaborates further on the "incident" in his article, "Acta confronts Dukes in Nats' dugout", in which he reports:
"The confrontation came a few minutes after Lastings Milledge hit a two-run homer, scoring Dukes ahead of him. According to baseball sources, Acta was not angry with Dukes for showboating with Milledge near home plate after the home run. There was a miscommunication in the dugout. Dukes thought that Acta didn't want to shake his hand."
The "showboating" Mr. Ladson refers to is a coordinated hand-slapping routine Dukes and Lastings Milledge did before entering the dugout, which is admittedly the kind of thing I see the Mets' players (ed. note - "I'm looking at you, Reyes!") do all the time, which I personally dislike, or would at least would rather not see on the field, but relegated to the dugout, but as Mr. Ladson notes, that was not the cause of the disagreement between the player and Manager, and Mr. Ladson goes on to point out that this is not the first time Manny Acta has publicly addressed an issue with one of his players, reminding readers of his "talk" on the mound with Jason Bergmann, and the "discussion" between Mr. Acta and catcher Jesus Flores in the same game.
Washington Times writer Mark Zuckerman in his article, "Power display charges emotions", appears to offer evidence contrary to Mr. Ladson's assertions, recounting:
"The story of this Nationals victory should have been entirely about the power display put on by the majors' least-productive offensive club..."
...but instead it ended up being about...
"...the aftermath of Milledge's homer, which featured manager Manny Acta chastising outfielder Elijah Dukes who had begun the rally with a double off the right-center wall) for displaying too much emotion, (which) put at least a slight damper on the evening's proceedings."
...And Mr. Zuckerman has a link at the end of this article to a "Chatter: A Nats Blog" post entitled, "Acta-Dukes? What Happened?" in which Mr. Zuckerman states, "I managed to catch glimpses of the incident as it was happening, though not the entire thing," but after some investigation, Mr. Zuckerman pinpoints the moment when the trouble seems to have started, right after Milledge's home run:
"...both players retreated to the dugout, where teammates (and Acta) awaited to give both guys high-fives. It appeared that Acta was pointing toward the outfield as Dukes entered the dugout and the two didn't greet each other. Moments later, Dukes kind of patted the manager on the backside, prompting Acta to turn around and say something. Dukes moved toward the far end of the dugout. Acta followed him back there and appeared to have some strong words for the young outfielder."
From there the argument we've all seen by now took place, and after the "incident" Elijah Dukes angrily took and played the field for the end of the ninth, at the conclusing of which he neglected to slap his Manager's hand, prompting what is basically described (if I may interpret, Mr. Zuckerman's words, "Acta smirked and nodded his head,") as a look of indignation from Manny Acta, which also, by my reading of the situation, is the way Dukes was reacting to a perceived slight on the part of his Manager.
Will anything come of this? What was the real cause of the "incident"? Is this the kind of thing that's going to make the Nationals' Management decide to end their relationship with Elijah Dukes? What happened in the "closed-door meeting" with Mr.'s Acta, Dukes and GM Jim Bowden? Does anyone else think Manny Acta looked as out of control as Elijah Dukes? Will Dukes be in the lineup tonight?...Oh that's right...
With all the drama, I forgot...There's a game tonight...
On The Hill...
John "Cool Hand" Lannan (4-6, 3.47 ERA) vs Ian Snell (2-6, 5.65 ERA)
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RONNIE! is the guest on Charlie's pre-game show
Interesting line-up today. Belli will be taking the hot corner (he plays third in Dominican Winter Lead, it turns out—I think that fella just loves him some baseball) and Dukes is right back in RF… Let’s see if it was really “showing up” Capps last night and if Snell has the stones to go after Dukes. Harris starts in LF. Belliard was also calling Milledge, “Lasto.” Zimmy will probably be 4-6 weeks before starting “baseball activities,” so two months minimum before we see him back up here.
by Doghouse on
Jun 11, 2008 6:56 PM EDT
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I hope they don't throw at Dukes.
I first heard Harris calling Lastings, “Lasto” when he was mic’d on MASN. Zimmerman, Johnson, Lo…well most are sorely missed.
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 7:04 PM EDT
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Lineup
Guuuuuuzzmannnnnn – 6
DUKES! – 9
Lasto! – 8
Da Meathook – 3
Jesus Florrrrres – 2
RONNIE! – 5
FLop – 4
Wee Willie – 7
Cool Hand – 1
Boone with a day off (how weird is that? your utility/bench guy getting a “day off”?) and FLop a reward for his last few AB.
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Jun 11, 2008 6:58 PM EDT
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Boone's old, he needs the rest.
Loved da Meat Hook’s shoulder tuck during the HR. I’ve just now finally gotten back to full power and seen all the hi-and lowlights from last night. Let’s play some baseball…
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 7:01 PM EDT
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I know it might seem crazy...but I still like the look of the DC lineup...
Guz, Dukes, Lasto, DY, Flores, Belliard…after that it’s dicey…
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 7:06 PM EDT
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Yeah, not bad... and if there were NJ, RZ and decent AK...
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Jun 11, 2008 7:12 PM EDT
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I was about to write that too, but then I couldn't figure out how to fit all of them in a lineup...(still laffin to myself about my attempts...)
Can Austin Kearns play second?
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 7:14 PM EDT
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Okay, Meathook PHs off the bench... hey, we're done!
Woo-hoo—playoffs 2009, here we come!
by Doghouse on
Jun 11, 2008 7:16 PM EDT
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Fastball high and tight from Snell to Dukes on the first pitch, nothing else....
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 7:09 PM EDT
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...apparently Snell was just setting up the two-strike breaker away.
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 7:12 PM EDT
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Lasto with a 1B ground up the middle!
Make Snell throw a ton of pitches, I say.
by Doghouse on
Jun 11, 2008 7:13 PM EDT
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Never been impressed with Snell. Watched him a bunch when he was with the Yankees, where he had a decent year.
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 7:15 PM EDT
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Ugh, never too soon to get in trouble early...
Runners at the corners with no outs after one gets by Belliard…
by Doghouse on
Jun 11, 2008 7:20 PM EDT
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The Pirates are probly pissed about last night's loss...
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 7:21 PM EDT
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Belliard gets beat glove-side and Lannan's in trouble...
Can he have a “Cool Hand” on a hot night?
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 7:20 PM EDT
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Not Doumit again. Maybe he stinks right-handed...
.333 lefty, .348 righty….awww he grounded out. .345 righty now(rough estimate)
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 7:23 PM EDT
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Lannan saws off a bat and gets an out with the runners holding...
...and then another grounder to third! Belli fields it, holds the runner and two outs again!
by Doghouse on
Jun 11, 2008 7:23 PM EDT
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Almost out, Lannan...(Cool Hand)...(Cool Hand)...
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 7:25 PM EDT
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Adam LaRoche watches it all the way in for strike three. I hate LaRoche!!!
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 7:26 PM EDT
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And ends it with a K! Nice.
Let’s hope he just had to find his groove.
by Doghouse on
Jun 11, 2008 7:26 PM EDT
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Here's something fun for between innings...
From the DC Daily(old blog) archive…
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 7:30 PM EDT
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So is the NY media all in a tizzy about Church?
Charlie and Dave were saying there’s muy complaining about Church not getting rest after all the rattling-around, and now a long stretch on the DL…
by Doghouse on
Jun 11, 2008 7:31 PM EDT
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Those pinch hit appearances after the concussion were questioned immediately in the press.
...and they may have been right. But Church said right away that it wasn’t like his first concussion, and seemed to think he could play…Whether they should have let him play is another ?
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 7:33 PM EDT
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Just texted a friend for a Mets' fans' perspective...
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 7:39 PM EDT
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Belliard!! Belliard!!
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 7:31 PM EDT
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He does it all!
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 7:31 PM EDT
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Okay, Cool Hand, let's see a 1-2-3 inning here..
...while we wait for the Nats’ bats to wake up against the worst pitching in the league…
by Doghouse on
Jun 11, 2008 7:39 PM EDT
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The Guzzz, slick play from deep in the hole...
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 7:41 PM EDT
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Can't believe Zimmerman missed that grounder at third...Oh that's right! Sorry Belli
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 7:42 PM EDT
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Snell bunts like a Nats pitcher, heh...
by Doghouse on
Jun 11, 2008 7:43 PM EDT
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I second that,"heh"
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 7:43 PM EDT
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McLouth has a sweet swing, but if he's batting .300 he should have his hit for the game...
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 7:45 PM EDT
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uuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 7:45 PM EDT
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Flores and Belliard are looking up instead of fielding, ugly baseball.
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 7:50 PM EDT
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ZIMMMMMMMMEEEERRRRRMAAAAANNN!!!!
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 7:46 PM EDT
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COOOLLLL HANDDD!!!!
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 7:47 PM EDT
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I'll stop yelling now.
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 7:47 PM EDT
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The Pittsburgh announcers are going batty with all the LOB...
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 7:50 PM EDT
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C'mon DY, RBI opportunity, smack a double...
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 7:54 PM EDT
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I said, "Double" not double play, DY.
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 7:56 PM EDT
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Is FLop going to have to show us how to take some pitches, here?
by Doghouse on
Jun 11, 2008 8:07 PM EDT
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Please! Give Lannan a rest.
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 8:07 PM EDT
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The Nationals are making Snell look good. Please wait this chump out...He's got a 5.35 ERA.
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 8:10 PM EDT
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TAKE SOME PITCHES!
Harris did well, in spite of the K. Let’s see if Lannan can make him throw 4…
by Doghouse on
Jun 11, 2008 8:18 PM EDT
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Snell hasn't won a game since April 12th, and he looks untouchable through five with a 3-hitter.
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 8:21 PM EDT
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Did you read Dave from Bottomfeeders' Dukes post?
I’m afraid i’m definitely and “apologist” for Dukes, but why wouldn’t you want the kid to succeed for himself and the team?
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 8:22 PM EDT
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That's "an apologist", stupid fat fingers...
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 8:26 PM EDT
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Damn it! I mean Doumit goes deep again. 2-0 Pirates.
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 8:26 PM EDT
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DY's sleeping, lets Nady on for free.
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 8:28 PM EDT
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Lasto makes a spectacular catch to redeem DY's lazy playing at first...
by Doghouse on
Jun 11, 2008 8:29 PM EDT
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I went with, "...saves DY from further shame."
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 8:31 PM EDT
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That Pittsburgh skyline looks industrially beautiful...
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 8:32 PM EDT
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Shot at redemption for DY? Single up the middle. Had to know he'd get a hit.
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 8:35 PM EDT
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WWJD?
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 8:35 PM EDT
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Deflect one off the third baseman into the stands? Huh?
A ground-rule infield double?
by Doghouse on
Jun 11, 2008 8:37 PM EDT
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Flores bounces a slider off Jose Bautista's chest.
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 8:36 PM EDT
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...elbow, chest, never trust the announcers.
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 8:37 PM EDT
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Wow, Soriano just got nailed in Chicago, right on the wrist...ouch.
Looks like the ex-National is hurt.
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 8:42 PM EDT
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3 x 6-3 = Inning over.
Now, let’s bash this Snell bum around a bit!
by Doghouse on
Jun 11, 2008 8:43 PM EDT
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Someone get a hit! Please?
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 8:43 PM EDT
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Lopez, Harris, Lannan due up...
...aaa maybe next inning. (I kid, I kid) Now show me wrong FLop!!
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 8:44 PM EDT
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Aha! Taunting Lopez seems to work.
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 8:46 PM EDT
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Finally got a response from the Mets' fan on Church, and it's Met-ypical:
from text:
“Even out with a concussion he’s(Church is) better than Milledge.”
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 8:47 PM EDT
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Casto! (clapclap) Casto! (clapclap)
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 8:49 PM EDT
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Manny's evil plan!
He calls Casto, gets the lefty pitcher, then pulls him for Boone! With quite a nice record against Marte… Let’s hope it works!
by Doghouse on
Jun 11, 2008 8:52 PM EDT
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Now Boone and Casto are wasted...was Casto announced?
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 8:53 PM EDT
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Okay, maybe .. Guz?
Ok, maybe not… C’mon, Dukes!
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Jun 11, 2008 8:53 PM EDT
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DUKES!! I promise Acta will acknowledge you!!
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 8:54 PM EDT
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DUKES!!!! Slap that man's hand!!!! EVERYONE!
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Hanny's slider is wicked and gets a K to lead off the the inning.
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Jun 11, 2008 9:01 PM EDT
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That slider's nasty tonight!
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Jun 11, 2008 9:02 PM EDT
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Sanchez ain't bitin'...
...and he gets his pitch for a single.
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 9:04 PM EDT
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"Wild" Joel's throwing hot fire...
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Jun 11, 2008 9:01 PM EDT
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Alright, after that walk, I'm deleting my pro-Hanrahan comments...
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 9:05 PM EDT
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Did Milledge step back first?...that was one desperate leap...
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Jun 11, 2008 9:08 PM EDT
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Aaand bases loaded on a bloop... get youself a K, Hanny...
DAMMIT!
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Another bloop scores a run. 3-1 Pirates.
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 9:10 PM EDT
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Throw it over the plate, Hanny, Dammit!!
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Jun 11, 2008 9:12 PM EDT
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Oh look, It's Adam "Doubleplay" LaRoche at the plate...
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 9:09 PM EDT
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Adam "Swinging K" LaRoche!!
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Jun 11, 2008 9:12 PM EDT
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Hanny gets 'im with the high heat!
Gives up a run but Ks his way out of the inning…
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Jun 11, 2008 9:13 PM EDT
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Right back where they started though, after battling back to halve the lead.
Trust your stuff, Hanrahan.
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 9:14 PM EDT
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...and catch them bloopers, Milledge and Lopez.
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 9:19 PM EDT
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Belli-YARD! Belli-YARD!!
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Jun 11, 2008 9:19 PM EDT
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Felipe's already lined a few...but this time, why not take the first pitch. Sit down Felipe!!!
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 9:22 PM EDT
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Yates stunk for the Braves too...
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Jun 11, 2008 9:21 PM EDT
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4 balls in a row, but Lopez swings at the first pitch! THE FIRST PITCH!!!!
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 9:22 PM EDT
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Now it's PH, Guzman, Dukes in the ninth...THEN LASTO!!
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 9:24 PM EDT
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Bring it, Capps!!
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 9:25 PM EDT
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Who pinches? Pena, Nieves?
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Jun 11, 2008 9:27 PM EDT
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It's Doug "I think I'll keep this World Series Ball" Mientkiewicz with the walk.
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 9:32 PM EDT
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Colome's back to "deliberate" mode.
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 9:38 PM EDT
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Okay, guys, this Capps is a chump. We can take him.
Let’s go Nats!
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Jun 11, 2008 9:40 PM EDT
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Capps vs Langerhans, The Guzzz and DUKES!!
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 9:41 PM EDT
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C'mon Langerhits!!!
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jun 11, 2008 9:43 PM EDT
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Or Langerwalks!! I'm not picky.
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Jun 11, 2008 9:43 PM EDT
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Woo-hoo! You called it.
Now it’s THE GUUUUUUZZ! C’mon hit machine, crank out some bases!
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Jun 11, 2008 9:44 PM EDT
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Guzzzz lines out...Dukes?
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Jun 11, 2008 9:45 PM EDT
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Ugh, Guz zaps a high one straight into a glove...
Let’s see the big hit, Dukes! I’ll high-five it.
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Jun 11, 2008 9:45 PM EDT
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Oh that replay with Dukes hitting Acta looked even worse...
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see ya, doghouse.
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