Game Thread: Philadelphia Phillies at Washington Nationals- 2008 Game 108 of 162. "Washington Nationals' Trade Deadline Report."
Philadelphia Phillies at Washington Nationals, Jul 31, 2008 7:10 PM EDT
...Uh? It appears that there are only two stories going around about the Nationals' potential dealings with less than 16 hours to go before the MLB Trade Deadline passes. First it's MLB.com's Bill Ladson, who writes in an article entitled, "Bowden doesn't expect to deal vets", that DC GM Jim Bowden is, "...doubtful that he will trade his veteran players before the Trade Deadline on Thursday." Over at ESPN.com, Jayson Stark includes a quick note on the lack of interest in DC righty Tim Redding, in Mr. Stark's article entitled, "Mets passing on Ibanez":
"Teams with pitching to deal report that the Mets aren't players on any of the starting pitchers still floating around the market -- namely, Jarrod Washburn or Tim Redding."
According to Mr. Ladson, who cites an unnamed "baseball source", several teams have inquired about the availability of several young Nationals:
"...Jason Bergmann, Garrett Mock, Ross Detwiler and Adrian Alaniz have been mentioned in trade discussions."
...and one paragraph later Mr. Ladson reports that such things are indeed being, at the very least, entertained, stating:
"Bowden said he's willing to do prospect-for-prospect deals in order to get what the organization wants."
Those last two sentences had me worried, so I checked in at the "Nationals Journal" to see what Washington Post writer Chico Harlan had to report. In a post entitled, "Tradeability, signability", Mr. Harlan had the full text of the quotes from Mr. Bowden that Bill Ladson had referenced, wherein the DC GM explains further:
"We'd be open to a prospect-for-prospect kind of deal, sure. If we can fill a void that we need. If we can find a deal that makes us better, sure, we're open to that. We've had a lot of discussions with a lot of clubs about a lot of players in our farm system. That's taken most of our time."
...after which Mr. Bowden explained even further:
"'...you can never get enough pitching; don't get me wrong. So I never look to trade pitching. That being said, if there was a three, four-hole future hitter or a shortstop up the middle long-term we're always looking for that.'"
So...The Nationals are getting no inquiries about veterans like Lo Duca, Lopez, Belliard or Redding, but everyone's interested in DC's pitching prospects...Why do I have a bad feeling about this??? (Please don't trade pitchers for Dunn!!)
Instead of major moves in terms of trades, Washington Times' writer Mark Zuckerman thinks the movement will take place within the organization, writing, in an article entitled, "Moves seem unlikely before trade deadline":
"The club would like to open up second base at some point so 23-year-old Emilio Bonifacio, acquired last week from Arizona for Rauch, can move up from Class AAA Columbus and start at the big league level.
"That makes Lopez, who entered Wednesday's game hitting .233 and making $4.9 million, a candidate to be designated for assignment. The same could hold true for (Odalis) Perez, who has allowed 14 runs over his last 15 innings and could be replaced in the rotation by rookie Garrett Mock."
(ed. note - "It's now 1:03 am EST. Just 15 hours from the '08 Trade Deadline. Updates as the day goes along will be included in the Comments section...Who's gonna get the scoop? Will the Nationals stay out of the Deadline action? Will Jim Bowden pull something off? Who has played their last game as a National? Who's gonna win tonight's game? Not sure, but I know who's pitching...)
On The Hill...
We all know what happened the first time John "Cool Hand" Lannan faced Philadelphia on July 26th of '07, when consecutive HBP's to Utley and Howard resulted in an ejection in Lannan's Major League debut. That was his only appearance thus far in his career against the Phillies. Before getting tossed that day, Lannan managed to throw 4.1 innings, allowing 6 hits, 4 ER, 1 HR and 2 walks with 1 K in a no-decision in a Nationals' win over the Phils.
In 8 starts in DC this season, the 23-year old, left-handed Lannan's (2-5) with a 4.71 ERA in 42.0 innings pitched, a 1.40 WHIP, .265 BAA and 41 hits, 22 ER, 8 HR's and 18 walks allowed in Nationals Park, which leave Lannan's career totals in Nationals Park/RFK at (3-6) in 10 games with a 4.89 ER in 53.1 innings. (Away from DC - Lannan's (5-6) in 16 career starts with a 2.78 ERA in 100.1 innings pitched.)
Lannan's '08 Breakdown...
Lannan vs Lefties in '08 - .266 BAA, 1.37 WHIP, 27.0 IP, 29 H, 4 HR's, 8 BB, 17 K's.
Lannan vs Righties in '08 - .250 BAA, 1.27 WHIP, 92.0 IP, 85 H, 8 HR's, 32 BB, 49 K's.
Philadelphia's throwing their own 23-year old pitcher, Kyle Kendrick in the finale of the three-game set in DC. The right-handed Kendrick's faced the Nationals 3 times in 41 MLB starts, posting an (0-1) record with a 3.63 ERA. Two of those starts were in RFK Stadium last season, so this will be the first time Kendrick pitches in Nationals Park.
On the road in '08, Kendrick's somehow (5-2) even though he's put up a 5.02 ER and .311 BAA in 61.0 innings pitched, over which he's allowed 78 hits, 34 ER's, 9 HR's, and 22 walks while collecting 21 K's.
Kendrick's '08 Breakdown...
Kendrick vs Lefties in '08 - .324 AVG, 1.80 WHIP, 60 IP, 81 H, 10 HR's, 27 BB, 21 K's.
Kendrick vs Righties in '08 - .261 AVG, 1.18 WHIP, 55 IP, 57 H, 6 HR, 8 BB, 2K's.
Nationals' #'s Against Kyle Kendrick...
Ronnie Belliard - 3 for 9, .333 AVG, .667 OPS.
Ryan Zimmerman - 4 for 9, .444 AVG, 3 2B, .778 SLG, 1.222 OPS.
Willie Harris - 2 for 3, .667 AVG, 1 HR, 1 RBI.
Future Nationals vs Kendrick...
Emilio Bonifacio - 1 for 1, 1.000 AVG, 2B, 2 RBI's.
Check the NatCast if you're heading to Nationals Park...
Game time for the finale of the 3-game visit by the Phillies is 7:10 pm EST. Who's Got DC Trade News? Who's Watching the Nationals? Check back all day for updates...Who's Watching the Nationals?
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Detwiler
If Bowden trades Detwiler, the Learners should fire his _ (fill in the blank). When we drafted him last season, you would have thought he was Bowden’s own son the way he hyped him up.
I still think Bowden should be fired anyway, or have a temporary internship with the Angels or Yankees GM. Atleast they know how to make trades that actually make their teams better.
Why everyone keeps helping the Yankees I'm not quite sure I understand?
Not even Bowden can crazy enough to deal DC’s prospects…I hope…
"The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous." - V
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2008 12:23 PM EDT reply actions
Bergmann
I don’t think it would be a bad idea to deal Bergmann. I think if that happened it would give a better chance to develop young pitchers who have more potential like Clippard, Detwiler and Mock.
I'd deal Bergmann or Redding if there were any takers...
The young arms would be untouchable…
"The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous." - V
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2008 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
What's the most you could expect for Bergmann though?
I think the most you could get would be a few late round picks for Bergmann.
"The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous." - V
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2008 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Trades
I think any trades you can make to get rid of some of these stagnant, mediocre players like FLop, Bergmann, Lo Duca is welcomed.
Ayala and Lannan
According to SI’s trade blog, the Mets are interested in Ayala and the White Sox want Lannan. The first one, I’m fine with. The second one, not so much.
So Minaya wants another one of his old players...
If the Mets want Ayala i’d make a deal…if Bowden trades Lannan I’m going join forces with the Fire Jim Bowden blog.
Thanks for the link, VANats.
"The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous." - V
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't give them any ideas
Don’t give Jimbo any ideas. He’ll package up Dukes and Milledge for more Reds.
On the bright side… Maybe they’ll let one of us start tonight’s game if we deal Lannan. Otherwise it’ll be a sad trip to the ballpark tonight.
At least Griffey, Jr might not be around in the coming series...
Someone actually wants Ayala after his terrible season so far? Throw in PLoD and FLop for free. But if Lannan gets traded, I’m going out to get a torch and a pitchfork and start an unruly mob!
When in doubt, blame PLoD
I already have my torch waiting, unlit at the door so's I can join the unruly mob!!!
When I heard Griff Jr. was dealt I actually held my breath through the end of the sentence…
If Bowden trades Lannan…We riot!! Uh, at least the online equivalent of rioting, which is I guess really just a lot of exclamation points!!!!!
"The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous." - V
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2008 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
The riot starts...
In section 229, right behind me. Of course, depending on our play tonight, that may happen anyway.
According to Bill Ladson...
...as of 3:00 pm EST, it’s Joel Hanrahan the White Sox are interested in, not Lannan.
"The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous." - V
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2008 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
I have to go back to work from 4-5:00...can't wait to see what if anything transpires...
Anyone watching the Nationals/Phillies tonight?
"The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous." - V
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2008 4:03 PM EDT reply actions
I'll be at the game...
...and I hope we can salvage at least one out of this fiasco. Man, I can’t wait for Dukes to get back in the lineup!
When in doubt, blame PLoD
Super Dukes is coming...
"The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous." - V
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2008 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions
if you get a chance drop a line about how the clippers look...
"The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous." - V
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2008 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Tuesday Nite
Well I went to the game on tues. they won 5-2. M. Estrada pitched seven scoreless. He got some help with an outfield assist from Dukes and a miraculous catch by Bonifacio ( he’s got some ups). Schroder struggled to close it out and gave up some late runs. Bernadina, Bonifacio, and Dukes were providing most of the offense. I ll give some info bout tonights game when i get back in.
Schroder gave up runs? Huh?...
I can’t believe Dukes is back, and from the looks of it he’s doing alright. I don’t think Bonifacio’s gonna be down there long…Thanks for the report.
"The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous." - V
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2008 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Casto's at first tonight!!! DC Starting Lineup...
Thrillie Harris LF
Lasto!! CF
THE KIDS CALL HIM ZIM!! 3B
AK RF
Jesus C
Casto!!(clapclap) 1B!!!!!!
Ronnie B. 2B
Pinch Hittin’ Pete Orr SS
“Cool Hand” Lannan throwing strikes…
"The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous." - V
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2008 7:15 PM EDT reply actions
Lannan lets two on, but gets out with a scoreless first...
"The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous." - V
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2008 7:18 PM EDT reply actions
Am I the only who's glad Manny didn't end up with the Marlins?
"The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous." - V
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2008 7:19 PM EDT reply actions
Werth takes Lannan deep to left...
...and the Phillies’ fans in attendance burst into applause.
"The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous." - V
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2008 7:30 PM EDT reply actions
Back to back singles with a wild pitch in between, and a sac bunt that follows...
J-Roll’s up with two on, one out…
"The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous." - V
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2008 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Rollins grounds out to Zimmerman, but a run crosses...2-0 Phil-Phil-Lay-Lay...
"The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous." - V
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2008 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Zimmerman's throw to first hits off Victorino's helmet, and bounces foul...another run scores, 3-0 Philly.
"The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous." - V
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2008 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Another insurmountable lead...???
"The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous." - V
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2008 7:41 PM EDT reply actions
1 down in the 3rd...Kory Casto pushes a double into the corner in left on an outside slider...
"The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous." - V
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2008 7:48 PM EDT reply actions
Casto daringly takes third on Belliard's grounder to short...
"The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous." - V
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
...luckily no one was covering.
...and Casto scores on a wild pitch!!! Think PLoD would have created that run? 3-1 Philly.
"The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous." - V
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2008 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Two down in the third...Zimmerman just got hit on the hand....???
"The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous." - V
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2008 8:08 PM EDT reply actions
He's staying in the game...Great, throwing hand too...
"The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous." - V
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Kearns singles with two out...WWJD?
Flores singles!! Zimmerman scores! 3-2 Philly.
"The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous." - V
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2008 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Will Zimmerman be back out for the fourth?????
"The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous." - V
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Zimmerman does NOT come back for the 4th inning...
"The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous." - V
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
You gotta be #!*!(#(!!@(@!!!()(!(@)! KIDDING ME!!!
"The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous." - V
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Kendrick K's on a ball in the dirt, but reaches safely on a throwing error from Flores...
...followed by Jimmy Rollins’ two-run blast off Lannan which makes it 5-2 Philly.
"The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous." - V
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply actions
Victorino and Bruntlett get thrown out trying to steal bags to end the tops of the fourth and fifth...
"The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous." - V
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions
1-2-3 fifth for the Nationals, who are gonna have to wake up to avoid the sweep...
"The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous." - V
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Jimmy Rollins hits a two-out double in the sixth and scores when Belliard's rushed throw on a Victorino single gets away from Casto at first...
6-2 Phillies when Rollins scores.
"The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous." - V
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply actions
Charlie Manning gives up an RBI single to Howard and it's 7-2 Philly.
"The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous." - V
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Zimmerman hit in the hand when Lannan's pitching against Philadelphia? Coincidence?
These folks from Philly don’t think so…
"The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous." - V
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2008 9:29 PM EDT reply actions
The good news here is the word on Zimmerman...
“Don’t worry, he’s fine now though … Zimmerman left the game with a right-hand contusion, but x-rays are negative and he is currently listed as day-to-day.”
"The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous." - V
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Jesus "Everyday" Colome throws a fastball into Chase Utley's hip...
Careful what you start Kendrick, there’s a lot of games to be played…
"The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous." - V
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply actions
Colome's back for the ninth...
If Hanrahan doesn’t work out as closer…Do you think Colome could do it? Colome completes his second scoreless…
3 outs to get 6 runs…
"The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous." - V
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2008 9:51 PM EDT reply actions
Orr singles, Felipe Lopez doubles, and Thrillie Harris grounds out to score one, 8-3 Philly.
Milledge grounds out to score Lopez. 8-4 Phillies.
"The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous." - V
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply actions
That's how it ends...Phillies sweep DC in Nationals Park...
UGH!!!!
"The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous." - V
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed VANats...FINALLY!!!
(ed. note – “Change that signature, Doghouse!!!”)
"The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous." - V
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