Game Thread: Florida Marlins at Washington Nationals - 2008 Game 157 of 162.
Florida Marlins @ Washington Nationals
Setting The Scene...
If the 2008 Washington Nationals are to avoid losing 100 games they will have to go 5-1 in the last six games remaining on their 2008 schedule...Three games against the Florida Marlins starting tonight in DC, against whom the Nationals are 2-13 in 2008, and three games with Philadelphia this weekend in Citizens Bank, with the Nationals trailing 6-9 in the season series with the Phillies, and threatening to once again decide the NL East in the last three games of the last weekend of what could soon be a 100-loss '08 season for DC.
A 100-Loss Season? What They're Saying?...
AP sports writer Howard Fendrich has an article up at yahoosports.com entitled, "Washington Nationals nearing 100 losses", which he starts with two lines that will, at their conclusion, simultaneously amuse and infuriate any true Nationals' fan:
"Nationals president Stan Kasten, GM Jim Bowden and manager Manny Acta all love to throw around the word “progress.”
They love to talk optimistically about the team’s 'plan.'”
The Plan! What Nationals' fan hasn't heard enough about the Plan? When did that Plan start again? With the new ownership group buying the team or when the new stadium was built? I was just wondering so that I can know when to expect the team to start winning more than they lose...According to Mr. Fendrich's article, DC GM Jim Bowden, (as he's quoted in the article looking befuddled in print), isn't quite sure when all the work behind the scenes will pay off in success on the field, or as Mr. Bowden himself puts it:
"'I can’t put the timetable on it, because I don’t know, you know, what trades you make, what signings you do,' he said. 'There’s too many intangibles you can’t jump into.'”
As I've mentioned a few times before, I've been a Montreal Expos' fan as far back as I can recall, and still have one of the old powder blue away uniforms hanging in my study to prove it, with a time-worn Expos pinwheel cap resting nearby, right next to my '05 Nationals Wilkerson home white...So, having been a fan of the Expos my whole life, and then the Nationals after the move to DC, I've developed an ability to enjoy other things about baseball, outside of all the winning...and the losing of individual games...for example: 1) The endless succession of top draft picks and prospects, 2) The grooming of talent for the free agent pool, 3) Spoiling the seasons of nonplussed teams and their heartbroken fans, 4) Wondering how an MLB-owned team was allowed to trade away prospects to teams owned by the same owners with whom they were dealing?...But through it all I've remained optimistic...That was...until I read this paragraph in Mr. Fendrich's article:
"As bad as the Montreal Expos were—so bad that Major League Baseball was ready to fold the franchise before moving it to the nation’s capital, remember? — they played their final quarter-century in Canada without once losing as many games in a season as the 2008 Washington Nationals will."
That's when it really hit home...even without owners, without being allowed to make September call-ups, even while playing a portion of their home games in Puerto Rico's Hiram Bithorn Stadium...the Expos/Nationals' franchise hadn't lost 100 games since 1976 when they dropped 107, and before that 1969 in Montreal's inaugural campaign which saw them lose 110 of 162. Those were the only two times. Where is the "progress" Mr. Fendrich starts the article saying the team's management likes to talk about so much? (ed. note - "Where is the Progress?: Possible answers...1) On the field with Zim, Dukes, Lasto, Lannan, Mock, etc...? 2) In The System? 3) In Next Year's #1 or #2 and 9A pick?")
On The Hill...
In the first of three to end the '08 matchup with the Marlins, DC turns to rookie right-hander Shairon Martis, (0-3, 6.23 ERA) who has already faced Florida once in his three major league starts, (since debuting on 9/4 in Atlanta), pitching against the Marlins in the second start of his career on the road in Florida, where he pitched 5.0 innings, allowing 2 hits and 2 runs, (1 earned), with 3 walks and 9 K's in a 2-1 Nationals' loss. Against the NY Mets in his third start, the last time out, here at home in DC, Martis surrendered 6 runs on 5 hits, 3 of them HR's in 3.0 innings of a 9-7 DC loss to NY.
Marlins' left-hander Scott Olsen will be making the 100th start of his 4-year MLB career and the 12th opposite the Nationals, against whom Olsen's (6-3) with a 3.86 ERA in 70.0 innings pitched in which he's surrendered 69 hits, 35 runs, 30 of them earned, 9 HR's and 44 walks with 45 K's collected and a .263 BAA. Olsen, of course, was on the other end of the Martis' 2-1 loss in Miami, throwing 6.0 innings of 6-hit, 1-run ball for his second-straight win after a 6-game losing streak which had stretched back to July 24th of this season.
Nationals' #'s Against Scott Olsen...
Aaron Boone - 3 for 8, .375 AVG, 1 3B, 1 HR, 2 RBI's.
Kory Casto - 1 for 2, .500 AVG.
Elijah Dukes - 1 for 5, .200 AVG.
Cristian Guzman - 4 for 9, .444 AVG, 1 HR, 1 RBI.
Anderson Hernandez - 2 for 4, .500 AVG, 1 2B, 1 HR, 2 RBI's.
Shairon Martis - 0 for 3, .000 AVG.
Lastings Milledge - 7 for 24, .292 AVG, 3 BB.
Ryan Zimmerman - 5 for 29, .172 AVG, 1 2B, 1 RBI, 4 BB.
The "If They Were Playing" List...
Ronnie Belliard - 8 for 22, .364 AVG, 1 2B, 2 HR's, 5 RBI's.
Jesus Flores - 2 for 6, .333 AVG.
Austin Kearns - 4 for 19, .211 AVG, 1 2B, 2 HR's, 3 RBI's.
Wily Mo Pena - 3 for 8, .375 AVG, 2 HR's, 3 RBI's.
For A Florida-Based Perspective On The Weekend Series, check out the SBN's Marlins' blog:
QUOTE MACHINE:
DC reliever Jesus "Everyday" Colome in MLB.com's Bill Ladson's article entitled, "Colome wants to stay with Nationals":
"'When you throw strikes, you have a better chance of getting the hitters out,' Colome said."
Aaron Boone in Washington Post writer Chico Harlan's article entitled, "For A. Boone, 'Neat Moment' Still Resonates":
"'I kind of set [the moment] aside,' Boone explained. 'But now, I can appreciate it and respect the fact that it's a pretty neat moment, and a lot of fans -- especially Yankees and Red Sox fans -- will remember me for that.'"
Ryan Zimmerman in Washington Times' writer Mark Zuckerman's article entitled, "Lonely at the NL bottom for the Nationals":
"'I mean, if we win out and only lose 98, it's still a horrible season to our standards compared to if we lose 104,' Zimmerman said. 'I think it's to the point now where it's been a disappointing season.'"
The first of the last three with Florida gets underway at 7:10 pm EST in Miami, Florida's Dolphin Stadium. Martis vs Olsen. Will Dukes get #14? Will Lastings end the season in the Nationals' HR lead? Can Zimmerman (13) or Harris (13) catch up to Dukes and Milledge? Sounds like a POLL?? Who's Watching The Nationals?
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Lineups...
—-Marlins: 1)Ramirez SS 2)Baker C 3)Cantu 3B 4)Jacobs 1B 5)Uggla 2B 6)Willingham LF 7)Ross CF 8)Hermida RF 9)Olsen P.
Nationals: 1)Hernandez 2B 2)Gonzalez SS 3)Zimm 3B 4)Lasto CF 5)SuperDukes RF 6)BOOoone 1B 7)ThrillyHarris LF 8)Nieves C 9)Martis P.
The Two Minutes Hate Begins......NOW !!!
by Winston Smith on Sep 23, 2008 6:21 PM EDT 0 recs
So...
—-The entire Fish infield has 25+ HR’s and NOT ONE Nationals’ player has more than 15 ? How has Bowden lasted this long ? How have you NatsFans stuck with this team through three years of this…???
"...Popeye's never happened." --Luke Montz
by BravesBooster on Sep 23, 2008 6:28 PM EDT 0 recs
Three and a half years, the first half of '05 was magical!!!
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on
Sep 23, 2008 7:06 PM EDT
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I was doing okay until reading mr. chigliak's preface to this game
Yeah, the Expos didn’t suck like this since the 70’s……… And even when they didn’t have a good year, they were never as painful to follow…….. yeah, Kasten and Bowden are getting on my nerves. The mall owners, too……..
by cat daddy3000 on
Sep 23, 2008 7:16 PM EDT
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Was it negative?...that article just made me angry for a few different reasons...
…too much free time on an off day and look what happens…
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on
Sep 23, 2008 7:18 PM EDT
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The Nationals are 21-35 against Lefties this season...
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on Sep 23, 2008 7:09 PM EDT 0 recs
Got be careful with Hanley, Shairon...
..first two pitches of the game are outside…
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on Sep 23, 2008 7:12 PM EDT 0 recs
I think we're gonna beat up on Olsen so I'm not worried yet...1-0 Marlins on a broken-bat single...
(ok I’m gettin’ worried now…)
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on
Sep 23, 2008 7:20 PM EDT
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Thank goodness Shairon got Uggla.......
Okay, let’s beat up on Olsen…
by cat daddy3000 on
Sep 23, 2008 7:22 PM EDT
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Zim to the General to BOOOOONE!!! Double play to end Florida's first....
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on
Sep 23, 2008 7:23 PM EDT
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And by "The General" I of course mean Anderson Hernandez, who I think turned the DP...
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on
Sep 23, 2008 7:24 PM EDT
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Good thing that, as I was about to start whining about Bergmann
For no good reason….
by cat daddy3000 on
Sep 23, 2008 7:27 PM EDT
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Hernandez rips into a fastball, lining to left for a leadoff single...
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on Sep 23, 2008 7:25 PM EDT 0 recs
THE KIDS CALL HIM ZIM!! THE KIDS CALL HIM ZIM!!! 2-1 DC!!!
THE KIDS CALL HIM ZIM!!!!
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on Sep 23, 2008 7:28 PM EDT 0 recs
Can I change my vote in the poll?
Just when I figured he was done for the year…… Great prediction, btw…
by cat daddy3000 on
Sep 23, 2008 7:30 PM EDT
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I think Dukes gets 15 first...but Zim just unloaded on that pitch!!
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on
Sep 23, 2008 7:32 PM EDT
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So, no need for surgery for ZIm.... that would be the best news.
by cat daddy3000 on
Sep 23, 2008 7:34 PM EDT
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What I remember reading was that Zim stayed out longer so he wouldn't have to have surgery...
…and I haven’t heard it mentioned since, but the shoulder problem, with the wrist(hamate break) in the preseason probably have a lot to do with the low O totals…
Don’t worry, Zim, show’em you’re better than Wright next year!
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on
Sep 23, 2008 7:36 PM EDT
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I was just worried that with the low power numbers, that he was WMPing on his injuries
And then, we get the news after the season that "he’s expected to be ready for Spring training……. (all star break….)
by cat daddy3000 on
Sep 23, 2008 7:41 PM EDT
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My best Kreskin impression...
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on
Sep 23, 2008 7:37 PM EDT
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Milledge is given a free pass to second when Olsen's pick throw goes wide...
…and then Lasto tries to take third and gets caught again…
Uh, Lasto? Seriously?
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on Sep 23, 2008 7:34 PM EDT 0 recs
The sportsline guy must be trying to figure out how to type that up.
It’s been sitting on Dukes’ AB for quite a while….
by cat daddy3000 on
Sep 23, 2008 7:37 PM EDT
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Dukes got hit, Boone grounded into a force to end the 1st...
…after Lasto got picked off…TWICE!
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on
Sep 23, 2008 7:38 PM EDT
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Martis leaves one up and THE HAMMER hammers it, 2-2.
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on Sep 23, 2008 7:40 PM EDT 0 recs
You know, Jason wasn't given this much of a chance to....... nevermind...
We gotta see what Martis has, even if it’s rough going……
by cat daddy3000 on
Sep 23, 2008 7:42 PM EDT
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I like Bergmann, I just think his chance to start might have passed...
…but with that slider and his sinking heater…he could make a good one-inning arm out of the pen…but he’ll probably want starter-money somewhere else…starting to think now about who I should pay attention to in the last 6, who won’t be back?
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on
Sep 23, 2008 7:46 PM EDT
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I read it's mostly a mental thing for him. But, you're right about him starting here.
There’s going to be a lot of guys getting a chance next year.
by cat daddy3000 on
Sep 23, 2008 7:51 PM EDT
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And then Ks the side....... I guess the kid is alright...
by cat daddy3000 on
Sep 23, 2008 7:46 PM EDT
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Two swinging, one looking, a curve, a change and a heater to the pitcher, Martis finds it for an inning at least...
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on
Sep 23, 2008 7:49 PM EDT
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and with that, my Lab girl needs for me to take her to the dogpark
be back later……
by cat daddy3000 on
Sep 23, 2008 7:53 PM EDT
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Later...
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on
Sep 23, 2008 7:54 PM EDT
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4 straight K's for Martis after Hanley goes down looking...
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on Sep 23, 2008 7:57 PM EDT 0 recs
...scoreless frame for the rookie righty...
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on
Sep 23, 2008 7:59 PM EDT
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The General singles, Zim doubles, Lasto?
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on Sep 23, 2008 8:03 PM EDT 0 recs
RBI sac fly, both runners advance...
Well played, Lasto!! 3-2 DC.
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on
Sep 23, 2008 8:04 PM EDT
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Dukes walks, but gets doubled-up by Cantu after a lineout from Boone...3-2 after 3.
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on
Sep 23, 2008 8:07 PM EDT
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2-0 Cubs in NY, 2-1 Braves...
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on Sep 23, 2008 8:12 PM EDT 0 recs
3-2 DC after 2 and 1/2...
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on
Sep 23, 2008 8:13 PM EDT
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Olsen pitches a quick fourth...
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on
Sep 23, 2008 8:23 PM EDT
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Martis cruises through the fifth...
…the Rook’s third scoreless in a row…
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on Sep 23, 2008 8:29 PM EDT 0 recs
The General doubles in front of Zim in the 5th...1 down...
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on Sep 23, 2008 8:35 PM EDT 0 recs
Zimmerman rips a low bender into left, Gonzalez takes third...Lasto??
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on
Sep 23, 2008 8:37 PM EDT
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Another RBI opp for Lasto?
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on
Sep 23, 2008 8:38 PM EDT
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Fastball outside, single to right, 4-2 DC.
Milledge takes the team lead in RBI’s…with 59.
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on
Sep 23, 2008 8:40 PM EDT
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Martis walks two and gets a standing O from the DC Faithful as he exits the game...
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on Sep 23, 2008 8:53 PM EDT 0 recs
Steven Shell's on...
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on
Sep 23, 2008 8:55 PM EDT
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Uggla singles in Cantu, 4-3. Shell gets a DP grounder to end the Marlins' 6th...
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on
Sep 23, 2008 9:00 PM EDT
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"Another dimension, another dimension, another dimension..."
Pinch Hittin’ Pete Orr steps up with a man on second, one down in the 6th...
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on Sep 23, 2008 9:06 PM EDT 0 recs
Orr walks, one out later, Alberto Gonzalez drives in a two-out RBI with a single to center, 5-3 DC.
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on
Sep 23, 2008 9:12 PM EDT
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Hinck-LEY!! Hinck-LEY!!
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on Sep 23, 2008 9:16 PM EDT 0 recs
Two groundouts, and it's Hinckley vs PLoD...
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on Sep 23, 2008 9:18 PM EDT 0 recs
PLoD singles...
Hanley Ramirez vs Hinckley…if the Nationals blow it here, you know who to BLAME…
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on
Sep 23, 2008 9:20 PM EDT
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Ramirez pops out to short...
Mike Hinckley’s now got 10.2 scoreless since being called up...
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on
Sep 23, 2008 9:23 PM EDT
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Hinckley's back out in the 8th...
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on
Sep 23, 2008 9:30 PM EDT
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Almost word for word what I typed and canceled
Okay, no bad luck for checking back in……whew…
by cat daddy3000 on
Sep 23, 2008 9:33 PM EDT
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Hinckley's got 2 outs, and 2 strikes...
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on
Sep 23, 2008 9:34 PM EDT
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Jacobs doubles with two down...
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on
Sep 23, 2008 9:35 PM EDT
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I ain't saying nuthin'.........
{c’mon Hinkley, I don’t want it to be my fault……}
by cat daddy3000 on
Sep 23, 2008 9:35 PM EDT
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Hinckley vs Uggla...
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on
Sep 23, 2008 9:36 PM EDT
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From 3-0 to 3-2 Hinckley battles back...
Fastball, Uggla drives it to center, Milledge just, just reaches up while backpedaling to make the catch…Phewww!!!!
11.2 scoreless for Hinck-LEY!!!
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on
Sep 23, 2008 9:38 PM EDT
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Usually when sportsline locks up, it means a homer......
Thank you, Lastings…
by cat daddy3000 on
Sep 23, 2008 9:40 PM EDT
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Your mojo saved by the tight stitching in Milledge's mitt...
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on
Sep 23, 2008 9:41 PM EDT
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I wonder if he'll improve over the Winter, or if this is what he is....
by cat daddy3000 on
Sep 23, 2008 9:44 PM EDT
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If Lasto doesn't, he might end up in left/right like the rumor-mill has it...
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on
Sep 23, 2008 9:45 PM EDT
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I think Kearns will be back cause he has little/no value right now...
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on
Sep 23, 2008 9:58 PM EDT
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But, can't we at least dream?
Bag of used balls and all that……
by cat daddy3000 on
Sep 23, 2008 10:00 PM EDT
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I wish he'd just hit .280/25HR/90RBI's...
…like everyone’s been prediciting for years…
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by e chigliak on
Sep 23, 2008 10:01 PM EDT
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"He'll be healthy and ready by spring training..."
“And I’m confident we’ll finally see the real Austin Kearns” – J. B.
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Sep 23, 2008 10:04 PM EDT
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