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The Washington Nationals And The MLB Hot Stove...Who Knows Who's Telling The Truth?

I wrote the other day about Washington Post columnist Dave Sheinin's article entitled, "Rough Winter for NL East", where Mr. Sheinin expressed the opinion that, "...in the context of the rest of the NL East, the Nationals are having an absolutely fabulous winter," and I also included a quote from Nationals' Team President Stan Kasten in another Washington Post article by Thomas Boswell entitled, "Nats Go All In", where Mr. Kasten says, "'We've had a terrific offseason.'"

(ed. note - "O.K. Well. How about another opinion...")

NY Daily News' columnist Bill Madden wrote Sunday, in a section of an article entitled, "A tale of two stoves: While Yankees break bank, Red Sox hit bargain bin", which was subtitled, "Winter winners and losers", that in his opinion, the, "Biggest losers? So far it's overwhelmingly the Braves, Cardinals and Nationals," and Mr. Madden sounds just like a DC blogger as he continues, "As for the Nationals...":

"...the Lerner ownership continues to do everything possible to kill baseball in Washington for a third time. After non-tendering their winningest pitcher,Tim Redding(10 wins) because they didn't want to pay him $3 million, they made a frivolous and futile run at Teixeira and were likewise spurned by Milton Bradley. Thus, nothing has been done to improve the worst team in baseball last year. It's only a matter of time before respected Stan Kasten whose talents have been wasted by the Lerners, leaves to take the Toronto Blue Jays’ presidency."

(ed. note - "Wow, uh, yeah...these NY writers aren't, uh big on the subtlety...they're, uh, I, uh, I guess 'blunt' is a good word for it...uh, for what they, uh, are...they did use possessive apostrophes on "Blue Jays' presidency" though so there's something...uh, Sorry, next topic...")

At the Nationals Journal, Washington Post writer Tracee Hamilton's post entitled, "Kasten to Syracuse", puts the brakes on all the Nationals/Yankees-Nady/Swisher trade talk that was circulating yesterday, describing the story as, "...one of those viral rumors that suddenly is reporting based on everyone else's reporting," (ed. note - "What's he talking about?"), and Mr. Hamilton quotes two sources, "Dave" (ed. note - "Sheinin, I presume?"), who says, "...the Yankees had no interest in what the Nationals were offering," and Boston Globe writer Nick Carfado, who provides a list of teams vying for Xavier Nady that does not include the Nationals.

...And while we're at it, refuting some stories out there...Baseball Prospectus** writer John Perotto comes down on Washington Post writer Chico Harlan's side, as opposed to MLB.com's Bill Ladson's, when it comes to the Nationals' interest in two of the big name free agents that remain on the market, Adam Dunn and Orlando Hudson. Mr Ladson had written the other day in an article entitled, "Nats unlikely to sign top free agents", that "a source" told him, "Dunn and Hudson overpriced themselves out of Washington," while Mr. Harlan, in an article entitled, "For Nats, Prices Must Come Down", wrote that the Nationals, "...have not stopped pursuing Adam Dunn and Orlando Hudson...":

"For now, Dunn and Hudson are asking for contracts larger than the Nationals anticipated and are willing to pay."

Well, Baseball Prospectus' writer John Perrotto, in article entitled, "Every Given Sunday: Not Actually Getting Ink Done", predicts where the remaining major free agents will end up and Mr. Perrotto says Adam Dunn will end up in DC, citing the first baseman/left fielder's relationship with DC GM Jim Bowden, and as for Orlando Hudson, Mr. Perrott writes:

"The O-Dog has received zero offers, and the Nationals are biding their time and waiting to sign the Gold Glove winner to a one-year deal with a low base salary that would be loaded with performance bonuses."

(ed. note - " ** = You'll need a Baseball Prospectus membership to read this article in its entirety.")

(A final ed. note - "...We'll be back tomorrow with Hall of Fame news...Will Tim Raines or Andre Dawson get the nod and go in with the Expos' pinwheel cap? News from the Hall and A WINTER LEAGUE WEEKEND ROUNDUP..." coming Monday night, there's some scheduled "down time" here at the SBN and this thing's about to cut...

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one year deal for Hudson

A one year deal for Hudson would be so great.

 First we’d get a solid player to put on the right side of the infield to make up for Johnson/Young’s lack of mobility.

And second we’d get a guy who will get on base and support a stagnant offense.

Most importantly though if Hudson has a great first half, SO many teams are always in need of a good second basemen CAUGH METSCAUGH CAUGH, that we could trade him for some legitimate young talent.

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by yardyoder on Jan 12, 2009 1:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Coughing duly noted.

Heads up. AA (Amazin Avenue) bloggers abhor O-Dawg.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jan 12, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I like that plan until the Met-related ending...

…no more intra-divisional trade, please?

I agree a 1-year deal with Hudson would be a good move, but I have a feeling there are other teams out there just waiting to see how cheaply Hudson can be had…

"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA

by Ed Chigliak on Jan 12, 2009 5:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

whoa...

I felt like a needed a contractual lawyer to read the main post here (no disrespect "E"). There’s just so much reporting that seems as if it’s “non-fact” based. “Sources”, truly getting sick and tired of “sources”. I’m under the impression that if the reporter / columnist is a seasoned one and/or has a reputable history then he/she can be taken for thier “sources” word. Other than that, I’m not putting to much worth into what a particluar person’s “sources” are saying.

“E” or anyone else. Is every offseason like this? This is my first time truly keeping up w/the happenings during the off season. I guess I’ll get my official “junior baseball fan license” after the completion of this year.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jan 12, 2009 4:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yes, it's always like this...

…unless you mean the fact that there are still like 100 unsigned free agents…then, it’s not always like this…

…the sheer number of "unnamed sources" astounds me…seems everyone’s a rat…spilling secrets at every chance they get, or using the whole, "this is off the record" angle to get stories out without having to answer for them…

I know it’s a tough read, but that’s what I find funny about all this, everyone has their own opinion, own sources, etc., and they’re all saying different things…with no one accountable for misinformation…

Spring Training….now 34 days away…

"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA

by Ed Chigliak on Jan 12, 2009 5:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

:-) Brotha-man

If I didn’t know you better, I would have thought you were writing about how things are done down here in D.C. Wow, the correlation between how information is dispensed in baseball and politics is perfect.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jan 12, 2009 10:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Is "rat" too strong...

…I really was talking about baseball.

"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA

by Ed Chigliak on Jan 12, 2009 11:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps the most overused phrase in journalism today is:

“An anonymous source within the group / having close ties to the organization stated…”

Do you know what else bugs me? The use of the word CONDEMN. It’s lost any significance or weight that it once carried.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jan 12, 2009 11:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey "E". If you're looking for lighter fare...

…Check out one of AA’s threads from today. It concerns our (The Mets) horrible new inaugural patch. It’ll keep you in stitches. …Pun intended…

http://www.amazinavenue.com/2009/1/12/718230/page-2-slams-mets-new-patc?login=1231824680

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jan 13, 2009 12:37 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I saw that on Yahoo! Sports too...talk about viral threads...

…the poor Mets can’t win.

"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA

by Ed Chigliak on Jan 13, 2009 1:46 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Literally & Figuratively

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jan 13, 2009 10:06 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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