Federalbaseball.com's Readers, (The Fivethirtyeight.com of Washington Nationals-Related Polling), Decide On Elijah Dukes In Center For DC In '09...
(ed. note - "I can't figure out what to do with that title, sorry. Should Fivethirtyeight.com be plural? as in...'the Fivethirtyeight.coms'?")
Alright, I'm willing to forgive all of the 87 federalbaseball.com readers who voted in favor of the Washington Nationals targeting free agent OF/1B Adam Dunn in a recent poll, because in the Current Poll, with 93 votes cast, those of you who have voted have chosen Elijah Dukes as the Nationals' starting center fielder for 2009, 26 votes ahead of last year's center fielder of the future, Lastings Milledge, who has something to prove heading into his second Spring Training with DC. So, in this one at least, I'm with the majority...having put my support behind the Josh Willingham, Dukes and Milledge left-to-right outfield, but that might not be how it works out...
I'm still a little troubled by what MLB.com's Bill Ladson wrote about the battle for center field in his article entitled, "Nationals interested in Nady, Swisher", where Mr. Ladson speculated that Washington was interested in Xavier Nady:
"...as an everyday right fielder. Last year, Elijah Dukes played most of the games in right, but he will now compete with Lastings Milledge for the center-field job."
What bothers me here is not the idea that the Nationals might be interested in Nady, (which I hope they're not), but if you exclude "X" from the equation, does that mean that Austin Kearns is still slotted in for the right field job with Dukes and Milledge battling it out for center/4th outfielder status? If Nady would be the right fielder...(ed. note - "...and I know Bill Ladson doesn't set the lineup, but he's representing their thinking based on his reporting I assume...")...that means whichever player loses the battle for center between Milledge and Dukes ends up on the bench?
Austin Kearns told MLB.com's Bill Ladson in an article entitled, "Kearns ready to battle for outfield spot", with no lack of confidence in spite of his troubled '08 campaign, that when it comes to battling for an outfield spot:
"'I've been through that stuff before with a crowded outfield. Those things usually play themselves out,' Kearns said."
...and as Mr. Ladson points out, Mr. Kearns' reference could easily be applied to the outfield situation in Cincinnati a few seasons back:
"'In 2005, for example, Kearns was in a crowded outfield that featured (Wily Mo) Pena, Adam Dunn, Ken Griffey Jr. and Ryan Freel. Kearns ended up playing 112 games that year."
Don't count Kearns out? Is that the message here? Should Dukes or Milledge play right if they don't end up in center, or should DC give Kearns a chance to reclaim what was his starting spot? Am I the only one pencilling Josh Willingham in for left field? (ed. note - "The only one other than Willingham himself, that is...?")
Dawson More, Raines Less Impressive Than Last Time In Hall's Eyes...
Andre Dawson's stats didn't change, he didn't hit home run number 439 of his career. Tim Raines didn't steal any more bases to add to his career total of 808...and yet, Dawson received three more votes, (361 in '09 to 358 in '08), than he did last time around, while Raines lost 10 votes, (132 in '08 to 122 in '09) in the Hall of Fame voting yesterday that elected Rickey Henderson and Jim Rice into its hallowed, uh, halls?
The Hawk and the Rock will have to wait until next year, but I thought that maybe while we were on the subject...
An Open Letter To DC-based Washington Nationals fans...
I was wondering if we couldn't all come to an agreement about the place of the Montreal Expos' history in the record books of the DC franchise, or more clearly, if we couldn't decide which player's histories we'll hold on to and which players "we" as Washington Nationals fans can choose to forget? Randy Johnson's awkward years under an Expos' cap? Let's forget those. How about Tim Wallach? Wallach is someone you might want to embrace as your own. Spike Owen anyone? We'll forget Pedro Martinez was even an Expo, but "El Presidente" Dennis Martinez? Who doesn't want to remember him? Vladimir Guerrero? Who doesn't want to join in the celebration when Vladi is eventually enshrined in the Hall in the royal blue version of the Expos' cap that he wore for 8 seasons in Montreal?
Here's what I'm thinking? Five years into the return of baseball to the nation's capital, no one who has played for DC is looking like Hall of Fame material...(ed. note - "Pick it up, Zimmerman!") With the five year waiting period after a player's playing days end...It's going to be a looong time before anyone from Washington is even up for election. Montreal has Raines, Dawson, Vladi...just saying?
...and if you need a reason to think about the Montreal past of the franchise...How about Collin Balester, the Expos' 4th Round pick in '04? How about Mike Hinckley, who will be battling lefties in '09...Hinckley was the Expos' 3rd Round pick in 2001? Think about it, DC baseball fans. We can talk in the Comments section...
Winter League Playoff Updates...
The Tigres del Licey beat the Aguilas de Cibaenas 11-3 Monday to improve to 9-5 in the Dominican Winter League Playoffs. DC and Licey second baseman Anderson Hernandez hit his 5th double of the postseason, and was 2 for 5 with 2 runs scored for a .333 AVG after the game. WDJD? Jesus Flores started behind the plate for the Tigres, and the 24-year old Nationals' catcher, (ed. note - "Who has a great wikipedia page picture...") was 2 for 5 at the plate, but it was Ronnie Belliard who was good enough to earn a mention in MLB.com's Monday Caribbean Leagues roundup entitled, "Cardenales edge Leones for VWL lead", where the nameless MLB.com writer reported that, "Ronnie Belliard (Nationals) doubled and collected three RBIs."
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!Viva los Tigres!
(I don’t know how to do the upside-down ‘!’)
I’m still calling Hammer/SooperD/Bluegrass for the starting OF. In my opinion, Lasto is battling for the 4th OF spot, and I don’t think he has the inside track. He could surprise us, and I hope he does. I like Milledge.
And what did you mean by:
Am I the only one pencilling Josh Willingham in for left field?
Is anyone not pencilling in The Hammer for LF? Wake up and smell the RBI, people. I expect this year’s OF to knock in at least 250. In 2008 the OF combined for an anemic 208… Bumping that up to 250 is 4 more wins, and that puts us under 100 losses right off the bat (pun not intended)! Wild Card, here we come!
As an aside when anyone pooh-poohs the 08 Nats’ injury woes, do you know how many players qualified for batting titles that year under the curly-W (that is, at least 3.1 PA/game)? Guz was one (obviously), and Lasto was the other. That’s right, only two Nationals had enough PA to qualify for a batting title in 2008—patchwork roster, indeed!
"Next year we'll make it better." -- Mannyger Acta
by Doghouse on
Jan 13, 2009 1:00 PM EST
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Wow! Only players even qualified for the Batting title...
…the Nats were maybe a .500 team if everyone stayed healthy, which they obviously didn’t…
As for the Hammer? I was wondering 1st v LF if Dunn’s a possibility…If DC isn’t done dealing, The Hammer might be their most attractive outfielder to other teams…I’m still just wondering what they plan to do with all the OFers on the roster…
Ronnie B. can’t let Anderson Hernandez gets all the Tigres’ props…
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by Ed Chigliak on
Jan 13, 2009 2:59 PM EST
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Justin Maxwell
NoMaas.org and NYYFans are both quite into the idea of a Maxwell for Nady swap
You figure Maxwell is blocked in CF by either Dukes or Milledge and he won’t be dislodging Willingham.
How does that look on the Nats end of things?
by MarkoL on
Jan 13, 2009 2:38 PM EST
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I'd be willing to trade Maxwell before I sent a pitcher to NY...
I bet if DC offered Maxwell this deal would get done…but I wouldn’t, even having seen how effective Nady can be when he was a Met…DC was high on Maxwell 2 yrs back when they brought him up in September for a look, but since then a few other outfielders have emerged (like Leonard Davis)…With Dukes and Milledge young as they are, and Maxwell an “older” prospect this might make some sense in theory, but I wouldn’t do it…
I’ll take a closer look when I get home…
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by Ed Chigliak on
Jan 13, 2009 3:08 PM EST
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Competition - The American Way
Prior to reading the replies, I thought to myself: Why is Willingham playing LF a foregone conclusion? Thankfully Doghouse’s comment about his RBI production woke me up. So…That leaves CF & RF ripe for the picking. Seems like Manny (Is he still on vacation?) Acta is going to let these guys battle it out among themselves.
Well, in my opinion there’s nothing better than competition to:
1. Get the most effort out of each player.
2. Put the best player on the field for the majority of the season.
I hope spring training brings out the best of Lasto, Dooky and Kernels. Then we’ll be able to see the OF that we’ve been waiting on and hopefully the fan base will get used to seeing them on a day to day basis and not have to worry about a merry go round of players.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on
Jan 13, 2009 3:39 PM EST
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I agree with the idea that competition will drive everyone to improve...
…but the question is, What do you do with the players that lose those battles…
Will Dukes or Milledge be “happy” on the bench? Can you pay Kearns $8M as a 4th outfielder…
I agree that Willingham is the best producing outfielder out there and he should be in left every day his back will allow, and the Nationals have left left field out of any discussions of center and right, so I think we can assume The Hammer will be in left…
So that means as of now…(not necessarily batting in this order…)
Guzman SS
Milledge/Dukes CF
Zimmerman 3B
Johnson/DY 1B
Willingham LF
Kearns/Dukes/Milledge RF
Anderson Hernandez 2B
Jesus Flores C
P – Olsen, Lannan, Balester, Zimmermann Cabrera…
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by Ed Chigliak on
Jan 13, 2009 5:41 PM EST
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I'm right there w/ya pal
Dukes is as volatile as a molotov cocktail. I don’t think he’d take it to kindly to be ridin’ the pine. I guess the question remains. If the performance of all three (Lastings, Dukes and Kearns) is too close to call at the conclusion of Spring Training, what’s the trump card? The amount of the contract? The Mets had a similar problem w/Castillo. He blew chunks last year but there he was because of that bloated contract.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on
Jan 13, 2009 8:35 PM EST
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Talent trumps all...
…or it should, at least. I cringe whenever I see a team playing someone who stinks just because they’re making a ton of money. That money is gone, either way—an expensive bench warmer hurts your W/L less than an expensive hole in the lineup (or hole in the field, depending on the nature of the suckage).
As for Dukes, I think he’s the least likely of the three to be in the 4th OF spot, at least based on last season. Heck, and even if his Spring isn’t so great, I’d say put him out there anyway unless Lasto and Kearns both really impress (or to sum up my view of SooperD: “tools” + actual good stats = $).
"Next year we'll make it better." -- Mannyger Acta
by Doghouse on
Jan 13, 2009 10:21 PM EST
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Dukes likes to pound his chest when he walks in runs!!!
Willingham, Dukes and Kearns, eh? Do you have any pamphlets or a brochure about your Outfield Ticket for ‘09? I’m starting to get interested…
If Kearns doesn’t work, then the Nationals have to learn how to eat contracts like the rest of the league and cut their losses…Too old to be a prospect, Kearnsie, time to produce.
signed,
- The Committee to Keep Kearns and Johnson in DC.
(I’m sorry, Lasto.)
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by Ed Chigliak on
Jan 13, 2009 11:18 PM EST
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Uh-oh. It appears politics has taken over here.
In that case, I’m going to have to walk down to the Southeast corner of Pennsylvania avenue and submit a proposition to keep: Willing “Arm & Hammer”, Lastings “He Hate Me” Milledge and Elijah “Best Western The” Dukes.
And if the ballot measure doesn’t work then I’m just going to have to drive up to McLean, Va and get my cohorts from “The Company” to take A. Kearns out.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on
Jan 13, 2009 11:29 PM EST
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By "The Company" you mean the Orioles, right? I'm not familiar with the area...
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by Ed Chigliak on
Jan 13, 2009 11:32 PM EST
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Unless Baltimore has an affiliate in VIRGINIA, no, I'm not talking about the Orioles.
“The Company” is always known as…Drum Roll Please…

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by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on
Jan 14, 2009 12:57 AM EST
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by Doghouse on
Jan 15, 2009 10:31 PM EST
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Expo's fans everywhere still
Just wanted to let everyone know that I saw a Montreal Expos bumper sticker on a car with Illinois tags on the way home from class today at my Central Ohio University
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by yardyoder on
Jan 13, 2009 3:58 PM EST
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Vivent longtemps les Expos!!!
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by Ed Chigliak on
Jan 13, 2009 5:34 PM EST
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