What Do You Expect From The Washington Nationals In 2009?
The Kids Call Him Zim! The Bigger Wilkerson? The Top Chef? And Some Candor From Team President Stan Kasten.
Ahh, even Zim's against me...Ryan Zimmerman told MASN Sports writer Pete McElroy, in an article entitled, "Zimmerman on the team's progress, contract talks and Adam Dunn", that though free agent outfielder (1B?) Adam Dunn remains unsigned:
"Obviously it's a business and that stuff has to work itself out, but he loves it here and a lot of the guys on this team. He's told me he'd like to play here, but I'm sure he's told people in Milwaukee or whoever else is going after him that he'd like to play there too."
Fine. If Zimmerman wants Washington to sign Adam Dunn, then I will, (if the Nationals can actually sign him), fully embrace our new K-leader. The other thing I've noted, from Zimmerman, DC outfielder Willie Harris and Nationals' Team President Stan Kasten, as they were quoted in separate articles published yesterday, is that the Nationals themselves think they've improved the team since last season's 102-loss campaign. As quoted in Mr. McElroy's article, Zimmerman, at one point says, "I think we're definitely better," and later qualifies, "I think the team's way better." (ed. note - "I'll teach him to advocate Dunn's signing.")
Willie Harris (Top Chef?) tells MLB.com's Bill Ladson, in an article entitled, "Harris thinks Nats have the right pieces", that, "...the acquisitions of pitchers Daniel Cabrera and Scott Olsen and outfielder Josh Willingham this offseason made the team better," and he goes on to say that he stayed in DC because there's something to prove, and if Nick Johnson can stay healthy, and he (an ambitious Harris) can help Elijah Dukes and Lastings Milledge meet their potential, Harris believes, "I think we are going to surprise a lot of folks."
And in keeping with the positive tone of the weekend's public relations blitz, Nationals' President Stan Kasten told the crowd gathered for the panel discussion about the Nationals' future at Washington's NatsFest, as quoted in Washington Post writer Chico Harlan's Nationals Journal post entitled, "The Stanifesto", in response to a question about what the team's payroll would be in 2009:
"I get that question a lot. I've always had it for all of the years I've been in sports, any of the sports I've been in, and I am bewildered why fans ask me that. Because first of all, I don't know. Second of all, if I knew I wouldn't tell you -- because I've never talked about payroll, and you know why? It's because you really don't care. You think you care. I know you don't care. And here's why: You don't care about payroll."
Alright, I took that quote (well, all of the quotes really) somewhat out of context for comedic effect, but I agree with Mr. Kasten, and what he continues to say in his response. I don't care how much the team's spending, as long as they're winning. If they can win with a $44 million dollar payroll like the Tampa Bay Rays did last season, or like the Phillies did with $98 million, no one would care about the payroll at all, and since as we all know, and Mr. Kasten points out, spending is no guarantee of winning, (Just ask the Yankees about their return on the $209 million they spent last season, or the $138 million the Tigers and Mets spent...for them all to not make the playoffs), it doesn't matter how much payroll the Nationals add...what matters is whether or not they've assembled a competitive squad, I agree.
But, as everyone quoted here notes, the Nationals' success in '09 depends upon what else they're able to do to improve in the two months before the season begins, (though Mr. Kasten is also quoted in Mr. Harlan's article stating that the Nationals' roster might not change before Opening Day), what they can get out of signed or acquired players like Cabrera, Willingham and Olsen, and injury-plagued holdovers like Nick Johnson, Dmitri Young or Shawn Hill, and what contributions their drafted or acquired prospects will make to the Major League roster in 2009 with Dukes, Milledge, Jesus Flores, Anderson Hernandez, Collin Balester, Jordan Zimmermann (and possibly even Ross Detwiler) all being asked to learn on the job. That's a lot of questions. Here are some more...
Will any of the preseason prognosticators pick the Nationals to finish above fifth place in the NL East? Will any singificant free agents choose to give the Washington Nationals a try? ("What Can The Pirates Learn From The Nationals?" - from the SBN's Pirates blog, Buc's Dugout) Will the Nationals add anyone to the roster before Spring Training begins? Are the Nationals headed in the right direction? Who is projected to go #1 overall in the 2010 Draft? (I'm kidding.) What do you expect the Washington Nationals to do in 2009?
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Here's the link to the article on the Pirates' blog
The link you have up right now is busted.
I picked 70-92, although the math “proves” we’ll get 76-86 (50% of the time… if you believe the assumptions… and NJ is mostly health… and…).
"Next year we'll make it better." -- Mannyger Acta
Thanks for the link-assist...
I fell asleep at like 10:00 last night and woke up to find I’d written a post sometime around 2:30 in the am…so i’m surprised there are even semi-coherent thoughts…
76-86? If DC was in the NL West, they could compete…
Willie Harris says he thinks N.Johnson will be healthy, and who hear wants to doubt Willie Harris?
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by Patrick Reddington on Jan 27, 2009 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
Looks like 70-92 is running away with it...
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by Patrick Reddington on Jan 27, 2009 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
But there are 2 TRUE BELIEVERS so far!!! and I haven't voted yet...
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by Patrick Reddington on Jan 27, 2009 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
voice of gloom and doom says:
i think the Nats will win less than 70 games. i haven’t seen any of the projections, but dog, 76 really seems high. i don’t expect the Nats to sign Dunn or Hudson at this point, i don’t expect Johnson to be ready for opening day, much less play all season, and i don’t think the Nats have the pitching to get out of the basement yet.
the only “improvements” they’ve made to the MLB roster over last year’s mess are Daniel Cabrera, Scott Olsen and Josh Willingham. and none of the three are appreciably better than the players they are replacing (Tim Redding, Odlais Perez and effectively, Willie Harris).
Your voice of doom and gloom.
by Dave at District Sports Page on Jan 27, 2009 3:27 PM EST reply actions
Without injuries (or even with fewer injuries...) last year's roster would have won 70 games.
You can argue with the projections, but right now they say Nats win 76 games if NJ is healthy enough to make 400 PA. (Personally I think CHONE might be a little optimistic about Cabrera.) We lose NJ and Kasto gets most of his time, it costs us 4 games. That’s still a decent shot at 70.
"Next year we'll make it better." -- Mannyger Acta
Adam Dunn would fit in great !!!
Just move the fences in like 30 feet and he’ll have like 75 home runs. Oh, and don’t let the oposition throw curve balls.
That only works if we can move the fences back when the other team bats.
If we can ban curve balls for the visitors, WMP might become viable…
"Next year we'll make it better." -- Mannyger Acta
There was a time when the curveball, according to Curveball's wikipedia page...
…was considered bad form, if there is a return to those days, there’s hope for WMP yet.
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by Patrick Reddington on Jan 27, 2009 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
Candy Cummings
Inventor of the form (curve ball). Baseball – Ken Burn’s documentary.
Yes, the pitch was despised by the purists. So is the DH.
" PLEASE! CHANGE THE PATCH! "
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jan 27, 2009 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
That curve ain't natural...
…it’s like the ball made a deal with the devil to keep it away from bat…
Favorite Benders?
1. Barry Zito – I don’t care how many runs he gives up…
2. The One Matt Chico threw over the dugout? I still don’t know how…
3. Pascual Perez’s eephus. (ed. note – “Expos’ fans? Remember Pascual?”)
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by Patrick Reddington on Jan 27, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
Eephus pitch
Wow! That’s pretty darn interesting. There’s so much to learn about the history of baseball. Ted Williams hitting an eephus pitch…
Williams admitted that he had been running towards the pitcher’s mound as he hit the ball…
Reading the wiki-linked article reminded me of something I saw on Ken Burns’ Baseball last night. Last night’s episode paid tribute to “The Babe” (Ruth). I noticed in quite a few of his swings, he took the same approach to hitting the ball as softballer’s do…Gaining momentum by walking towards the pitch. Anyone else ever noticed that?
" PLEASE! CHANGE THE PATCH! "
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jan 28, 2009 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
Lou's top 10 expectations for the Washington Nationals in 2009
1. One more valuable free agent signed.
1. 72 wins
2. Two players with over 20 HR’s
3. 12 to 15 Wins for Scott Olsen
4. Another change to the Nationals uniform
5. One guest appearance by anyone from the Nationals organization on the MLBn
6. For the Nats to get President Obama to throw out the first pitch at the first home game.
7. For the Nats organization to put mannequins in those empty blue seats behind home plate.
8. For Rob Dibble (new MASN commentator) to say: “F..k this! I’m out of the booth! Someone get me a jersey and a glove. I’ll close the game down for the W!”
9. For Elijah Dukes to get involved in a brawl with one of the four Racing Presidents.
10. For the Nationals to officially change their name to the Washington National-Metropolitans after witnessing more Mets fans attending a home Nats / Mets series than Nats fans.
" PLEASE! CHANGE THE PATCH! "
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jan 27, 2009 7:55 PM EST reply actions
#7 is hilarious, Lou.
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by Patrick Reddington on Jan 27, 2009 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
#10 stinks...Lou.
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by Patrick Reddington on Jan 27, 2009 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
thank you
" PLEASE! CHANGE THE PATCH! "
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jan 27, 2009 8:35 PM EST up reply actions
"Chuckling"
Just callin em like I see em. ;-)
" PLEASE! CHANGE THE PATCH! "
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jan 27, 2009 8:36 PM EST up reply actions
9. For Elijah Dukes to get involved in a brawl with one of the four Racing Presidents.
Personally, I’m hoping he’ll lay the smackdown on the Orioles bird, or maybe that damned cat that keeps tripping Teddy.
"Next year we'll make it better." -- Mannyger Acta
The last time someone hit one of those big-head people it didn't go well...
"Nothin' wrong with my leg, I'm just B-boy limpin'" - MCA
by Patrick Reddington on Jan 27, 2009 11:43 PM EST up reply actions

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