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"Guz Using Dukes' Bat???" -- Washington Nationals Cristian Guzman connects for a two run double against the Atlanta Braves during the 10th inning of their baseball game Saturday Oct. 3, 2009, in Atlanta. (AP Photo/John Amis)

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"Guz Using Dukes' Bat???" -- Washington Nationals Cristian Guzman connects for a two run double against the Atlanta Braves during the 10th inning of their baseball game Saturday Oct. 3, 2009, in Atlanta. (AP Photo/John Amis)

The first bit of Washington Nationals news this winter came out today, with reports at the Nationals Journal, the Times' Chatter blog and the Nationals' official site on Cristian Guzman's appointment to, "...have his right shoulder scoped... by Dr. Weimi Douoguih at the Washington Hospital Center in Washington, DC", as the Washington Post's Chico Harlan wrote this afternoon in a post entitled, "Guzman, Norris* To Undergo Surgery". Washington Times' writer Mark Zuckerman speculated in his article entitled, "Surgery for Guzman, Norris**", that the second surgery on Guzman's shoulder in the past four years, "...might seal the deal as far as Guzman's move to second base goes," but MLB.com's Bill Ladson is done speculating, stating flatly, in his own Guzman article entitled, "Guzman to undergo shoulder surgery", that, "Once [Guzman] is healthy,":

"....Guzman more than likely will be the everyday second baseman, as his career as a shortstop with Washington is over. The team believes he no longer has enough range to play the position."

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Mr. Ladson wrote in an "All Nats All The Time", blog post from September 11, 2009 entitled, "Nats ask Guzman to play second base in 2010", about the slightly uncomfortable visit Nationals' GM Mike Rizzo and Interim Manager Jim Riggleman had with Cristian Guzman to discuss a potential move to the right side of the infield to make way for a SS, either from the system, (ahem, whispers, "Ian Desmond."), or the free agent market, (Orlando Cabrera's great, am i right?), with Mr. Ladson reporting that all did not exactly go well, "[Guzman]...did not give Rizzo and Riggleman an answer," and, apparently, "[Guzman] was in shock and told them he never played second base in his life."

DC GM Mike Rizzo talked about the meeting with Washington Post writer Chico Harlan in a Nationals Journal post entitled, "Seven things to know about the 2B/SS Situation", where he admitted that Guzman was, "taken by surprise by [the suggested position change]," but Mr. Rizzo responded by giving the 31-year-old infielder, "...a laundry list of great players who have continued their careers moving from shortstop to second base," while Mr. Riggleman assumed the role of bad cop, telling Mr. Harlan, "As far as [Guzman] being open [to the move to second]...that's really not even a factor. We'll make a call on that; the player doesn't make the call on that." 

The only comments from Guzman since then came two weeks after the initial reports in a blog post by MLB.com's Bill Ladson entitled, "Guzman not sure he will play second base," where Mr. Ladson wrote, "Shortstop Cristian Guzman is still not sure if he wants to play second base in 2010,":

"He has talked to his agent, Stanley King, about the situation, but will not talk about his plans until after the season."

• ?'s For The DC Faithful...

-- Did you see enough from Ian Desmond to know that he's your 20-10 SS?

-- Will the new Nationals' Manager take the Frank Robinson no-nonsense approach and just tell Guzman where he's playing?

-- Didn't Mr. Riggleman do a good bad cop?

-- Do you really think Jim Riggleman's the man for the full-time gig? 

-- Orlando Cabrera? Marco Scutaro? Orlando Hudson? Miguel Tejada? If it's not Desmond or Guzman, who's DC signing?

(ed. note - " * & ** = The Nationals' catching prospect, Derek Norris apparently broke the hamate bone in his left hand at the Florida Instructional league, and he's going to have surgery to remove the oft-broken bone. I'm officially taking a, "Zimmerman and Desmond both had the same surgery and they're fine" approach to the news...")

Further Reading: 

• "Should Cristian Guzman Move To Second Like Mike Rizzo And Jim Riggleman Asked?" - Federal Baseball - Ed Chigliak

"During the recent Blogger's Day interview with DC GM Mike Rizzo and team President Stan Kasten, Steven from FJB asked Mr. Rizzo directly whether or not the Nationals were considering moving Cristian Guzman to second since there had been a notable decrease in the 31-year-old shortstop's range..."

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"Steven from FJB asked..."

…hey, didn’t he write an article later saying that Guz’ range hadn’t decreased at all, it just wasn’t that great to begin with?

"And everybody lived happily ever after. Except the Phillies and the Mets. The End." --Sasskuash
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by Doghouse on Oct 7, 2009 11:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes...

“Cratering Cristian”, FJB

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Ed Chigliak on Oct 7, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's probably the last of the Bowden bad deals

Although I still think he hasnt been that bad overall for us – as Stephen says…we didnt have a lot of options 2 years ago.

But in response to the Q’s
Q— Did you see enough from Ian Desmond to know that he’s your 20-10 SS?
A- Yes I did Ed, and he should be the starting ‘torpedo boat’ for the Nats for many, many years to come. His fielding will come along.

Q- Will the new Nationals’ Manager take the Frank Robinson no-nonsense approach and just tell Guzman where he’s playing?
A- He should – although I think it’s more of a Rizzo call. This is the same team that started down Soriano when he moved from 2B to LF…to the point that they nearly didn’t pay him. It’s clear that the ‘power’ is in the clubs hands on this one…so if Guz wants to get paid…he’ll do what he’s told.

Q- Didn’t Mr. Riggleman do a good bad cop?
A- He should have thrown his shoe at him like Alex Fergerson did to David Beckham.

Q- Do you really think Jim Riggleman’s the man for the full-time gig?
A- Anyone who gives Guz a hard time is a friend of mine.

Q- Orlando Cabrera? Marco Scutaro? Orlando Hudson? Miguel Tejada? If it’s not Desmond or Guzman, who’s DC signing?
A- I still think Orlando Hudson is the pick…I think that Desmond has played himself into the starting Torpedo Boat. From there, I think that Guz will probably get dealt somewhere…and that Hudson might get called in…pending physical. ;)

Padilla walked into the Nats' clubhouse for the first time and said, "My God. I'm in heaven."

by Mezza on Oct 7, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But what's the deal with Hudson being benched over Ronnie B.?

  I don’t understand Guz…..didn’t like him much, was a personal target pre-Lasik, liked him a lot when he came back, not so much now……… I’m confused…

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by cat daddy3000 on Oct 7, 2009 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just think Ronnie B got hot...

Hudson had played resonably well over the season. My big concern is Hudson’s age…and the possibility of swapping one ageing player for another.

I would rather prefer a younger, athletic 2B…but…so would the rest of the league.

Padilla walked into the Nats' clubhouse for the first time and said, "My God. I'm in heaven."

by Mezza on Oct 8, 2009 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Belli looks good out in LA...

Who does you guys want to win? I’d love the Twins and Angels in the ALCS and the Rockies and either LA or the Cards in the NLCS.

And who do you think will win? I think, unless Philly’s closers blow it, it will be Yankees over Phils in the World* Series (*of USA and Canada).

by RoscoeNats on Oct 8, 2009 7:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Grew up a Cards fan.Got to be the Cards all the way passed the hated yanks...

Until that day, a long long day from today when I have to choose between Cards and Nats. I’ll choose Nats of course. Sorry Dad.

by Berndaddy on Oct 8, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Freeway series! Dodgers-Angels!!

"And everybody lived happily ever after. Except the Phillies and the Mets. The End." --Sasskuash
Friend of Dukes and Desmond #3

by Doghouse on Oct 8, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

MLBTR says....."Melvin told Haudricourt it would "be very difficult" for the Brewers to keep both J.J. Hardy and Alcides Escobar. Hardy could be a great pickup given the scarcity of shortstops."

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hardyjj01.shtml

Hardy is 27, former all-star, makes $4mil……stats down this year and replaced by “top SS prospect in baseball” Escobar……

(shrug…) I still go with Desmond. If Guz mopes at being told his place, it’s not going to be a good situation.

Mezza: ''Are we there yet?'' ...Roscoe: "In baseball hell? Yes we are."
"Freakish things are happening."

by cat daddy3000 on Oct 7, 2009 11:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+1 on Hardy

Although it will mean that Desmond could be backup torpedo boat.

Padilla walked into the Nats' clubhouse for the first time and said, "My God. I'm in heaven."

by Mezza on Oct 7, 2009 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know much about Hardy, especially why he had a down year......

But, I’m ready to see Desmond as the starting TB……..and definitely not jerked around playing 2B,,,,,,,

Mezza: ''Are we there yet?'' ...Roscoe: "In baseball hell? Yes we are."
"Freakish things are happening."

by cat daddy3000 on Oct 7, 2009 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

-1 on the position swtiches - seen enough of that to last me a lifetime.

Padilla walked into the Nats' clubhouse for the first time and said, "My God. I'm in heaven."

by Mezza on Oct 8, 2009 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just one more switch for Guz...

Then no more musical chairs lineup, please? Still a bit concerned aboot laid-back Guz turning the DP, just don’t see a lot of leaping over hard-sliding baserunners in the Guz…

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by Ed Chigliak on Oct 8, 2009 8:40 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

i can't wait until we're no longer held hostage by Cristian Guzman.

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by Dave at Nats News Network on Oct 8, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

He’s done as far as im concerned…and should have traded this year.

Padilla walked into the Nats' clubhouse for the first time and said, "My God. I'm in heaven."

by Mezza on Oct 8, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

[Shakes fist at Red Sox]

"And everybody lived happily ever after. Except the Phillies and the Mets. The End." --Sasskuash
Friend of Dukes and Desmond #3

by Doghouse on Oct 8, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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