Washington Nationals' Catcher Jesus Flores "Shut Down" Until February?
"I'm doing great," Flores said. "After surgery, I'm feeling much better. My strength is coming along. I'm moving my arm lot better. I'm going to be ready for the season. I'm completely shutdown [for Winter Ball]. I guess I will start to throw a baseball in February."
"I can only go by what the medical people tell me," Rizzo said. "They say he should be 100 percent and ready to participate in spring training. Now, we take them at their word, but we all know that specifically shoulders are very difficult to predict."
News from the player himself that "I guess I will start to throw...in February," is somewhat disconcerting. I'm not a doctor, but I know a little about rehabbing a throwing shoulder, and it certainly seems that if he's not even going to start throwing until February, that will not leave him, according to Rizzo on Friday, "100 percent" ready to participate in spring training."
It could take him months to get into throwing shape if he doesn't start until February. It's not like he's a pitcher, with all the stress of throwing off a mound, but he had labrum and elbow surgery since we last saw him.
When questioned about the major league depth at catcher at the Rodriguez press conference, Rizzo responded, "We have three capable catchers on the major league level. We have (Jaime) Burke on the Triple-A level and we have (Derek) Norris—who is an up-and-coming and potential significant contributor for us in the future."
Perhaps the part of that quote that got glossed over at that point was "three capable catchers ." We can only assume now that Rizzo meant Rodriguez, Flores, and Nieves, with Burke re-signed for Triple-A Syracuse.
So maybe we shouldn't have been surprised that Nieves was offered arbitration after all. Rizzo apparently told us as much on Friday. I'm sure this revelation in Ladson's story will get some glossing over, organizationally speaking, in the next day or so. "Shutting down" until February will turn into "part of the doctor's plans all along" and that they expect Flores to be ready, etc.
But expecting in the media and planning for the worst-case scenario are often two different things. And right now, it looks like the Nats are stocking up at catcher.
Hopefully it's just out of an abundance of caution, but it seems, from today's news, that the caution is at least warranted.
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so the Pudge signing makes a bit more sense now, but this Flores news is disappointing.
Almost as disappointing as seeing Roy Halladay traded into the NL East to the Phillies. This absolutely frustrates the heck out of me! Today is not a good day for Nats fans.
Alex Smith may have been the #1 overall pick but he still can’t tell why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch.
by Andrew Davidson on Dec 14, 2009 6:50 PM EST reply actions
Not that impressed by the Phillies' trade
If they had Halladay AND Lee, that would have been a spectacular get. As it is, the Phillies got an older pitcher with no playoff experience and committed years and dollars to him. I like them both as pitchers, don’t get me wrong at all, but I’m not sure what Halladay adds vs. Lee.
good point
getting rid of Lee in favour of Halladay was the bright side of the deal, but I don’t like the fact that Doc is in the NL East at all.
Alex Smith may have been the #1 overall pick but he still can’t tell why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch.
by Andrew Davidson on Dec 14, 2009 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
As I read somewhere else about Halladay vs. Lee..
What, they want to win 3-0 rather than 3-1?…….
Mezza: ''Are we there yet?'' ...Roscoe: "In baseball hell? Yes we are."
— without making a deal," Rizzo said."
by cat daddy3000 on Dec 14, 2009 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
Until I read Ken Rosenthal's speculation about a 3-team trade this weekend...
I was thinking about how tough Lee, Halladay and Hamels would be for ANY team to get through…Hamels and Doc is pretty good too, but I think moving Lee though obviously essential was a bad move…but they did get Doc….
I’m really interested however to see the Blue Jays trying to Marlin their way out of AL East obscurity…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Dec 14, 2009 9:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don't think any NL East fan is happy about Halladay going to Philly...
…And up here in NY there’s a lot of talk about the Mets landing Bay…another umwelocome addition if that works out…NY signed Kelvim Escobar too, so the Nats better get it together or it’s a few more years of getting dominated…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Dec 14, 2009 9:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I twittered my disgust immediately upon hearing Halladay was coming to the NL East.
I even screamed it.
Meh
It will be sweeter when we dominate them with our payroll. Billy Beane style.
"I love, love, love John Lackey." -- Graysnail.
by Mezza on Dec 14, 2009 10:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
What's up Twitter pals...
Sign Joel Piniero!!!
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Dec 14, 2009 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
Sign Piniero!!
Just a prediction…the only way to make the case would be to guarantee that the Cardinals’ pitching coach will be joining him in DC, which he will not…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Dec 14, 2009 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
Strasburg will go 25-3 next year and lead the Nats to a championship
You read it here first. Hah!
keeping fingers crossed (and ignoring cold, hard reality)
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The Washington Nationals, the team of the 2010s!
by Potomac Fan on Dec 14, 2009 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
Ignoring cold, hard reality = better than accepting 103 loss seasons...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Dec 14, 2009 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
"I'm completely shutdown [for Winter Ball]"
Not to be Pollyanna here, but that just means to me that he won’t be playing for Magellan’s Navigators in Venezuela, as he did in 2007-08…..
With WL rosters being so fluid, the status of the players (who need permission from their MLB club to play) is a huge topic of conversation, so Jesus mentioning his status is not something I’d set my hair on fire over…
Not throwing a baseball for 6 months after surgery is probably a normal timeline. To be ready to participate in ST, as opposed to be ready for ST, are two different things.
Mezza: ''Are we there yet?'' ...Roscoe: "In baseball hell? Yes we are."
— without making a deal," Rizzo said."

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