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Washington Nationals Sign Jason Marquis. In Rizzo We Trust!!

When DC GM Mike Rizzo gave Washington Post writer Chico Harlan a list of free agent pitchers the Washington Nationals would target this winter back in early September '09, (which included just about every big name on the market), for a Nationals Journal post entitled, "Reading Material, Shopping Lists", he also promised the DC Faithful, "We're going to get one of them."

According to MASNSports.com's Byron Kerr, the DC GM came through for the Faithful this afternoon and signed the first name from that original list, Jason Marquis. Mr. Kerr, in an article entitled, "Nats to sign Jason Marquis", writes simply that, "MASNSports.com has learned that the Nationals will sign starting pitcher Jason Marquis," promising more news to follow when the deal becomes official. 

MLB.com's Bill Ladson just sent out a Twitter message confirming that the signing is imminent (pending a physical) and it's already being discussed on XM's MLB channel, (XM announcer Jim Duquette called it a "money grab" by Marquis)...so it appears that the news is official...

The Washington Nationals have signed free agent right-hander Jason Marquis...#'s, years and a whole lot more to follow later this afternoon...

In Rizzo We Trust!!!

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Regardless of my opinions on this deal

Rizzo is so refreshing. He seems so much more motivated than Bowden. Jim was hanging on to the past, Mike has things to prove.

IN RIZZO WE TRUST INDEED.

It’s good to see things happening.

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by yardyoder on Dec 21, 2009 3:02 PM EST reply actions  

I'm not going to pretend I'm the world's biggest Marquis fan...

But under Rizzo it seems that both front office and on field talent are recognizing that things are different in DC…even if it is because they’re throwing more money at particular free agents than other teams…

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Dec 21, 2009 3:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

It may not be a great signing, but the alternatives could have been way worse..

  Tim Dierkes likes the Bowden Dumpster Diving Gambit……..jeez, I’m for this because Rizzo didn’t wait until March, no matter that Marquis may be Tim Redding..

Mezza: ''Are we there yet?'' ...Roscoe: "In baseball hell? Yes we are."
— without making a deal," Rizzo said."

by cat daddy3000 on Dec 21, 2009 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

just what this team needs

more mediocrity…

I can’t really raise my flag in support of ‘at least things are happening’ if it’s the wrong things what difference does it make?

hey, hes on the team now, i hope im wrong

by martins on Dec 21, 2009 3:20 PM EST reply actions  

Does anyone on the market fit your definition of a good signing?

Not being confrontational, I wasn’t enamored with any of the names on the market, so after Lackey, Marquis seems like the best of a mediocre bunch of options…

I’d still like to see the money go to Aroldis Chapman…

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Dec 21, 2009 3:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

That was my question.

Does this signing mean Chapman is out of the question? I hope not, he certainly has more long-term potential than any other free agent out there.

by John Quinn on Dec 21, 2009 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think so. You HAVE to have a veteran on this staff to teach the youngsters. Marquis has been in a number of situations, pennant races, ASG, and is a world series champ.

Sure we submitted an offer to Chapman but I think Boston is going to bust the bank on this kid.

by Parks Smith on Dec 21, 2009 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

He's no saviour, but if he keeps the bullpen from throwing 4 innings every fifth day, I'll be happy...

Mezza: ''Are we there yet?'' ...Roscoe: "In baseball hell? Yes we are."
— without making a deal," Rizzo said."

by cat daddy3000 on Dec 21, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

i wouldnt even mind this so much

if the walk rate weren’t so astronomical, if it dosen’t come down… it’s gonna be a long season for him

by martins on Dec 21, 2009 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

15 game winners with over 200 IP are not to be sneezed at.

He wont be the reason we win the playoffs…but he might be the reason that we attract more free agents, get back to 500 ball, and improve the young pitchers in the rotation and get some much needed credibility back.

"I love, love, love John Lackey." -- Graysnail.

by Mezza on Dec 21, 2009 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

the 200 inn part i can agree with

but the 15 wins part is mainly a product of the team… if not entirely… but if he throws 200 mediocore innings… is it really all that important?

by martins on Dec 21, 2009 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep, 200 innings on one arm rather than spread out over several, making those arms less effective.........

  I’d like for the Nats’ bullpen to not lead the league in appearances……..individually and collectively…

Mezza: ''Are we there yet?'' ...Roscoe: "In baseball hell? Yes we are."
— without making a deal," Rizzo said."

by cat daddy3000 on Dec 21, 2009 6:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep. I think we're in furious agreement.

But if it came down to Livan or Marquis throwing those IP, you’ll forgive me if I take latter

"I love, love, love John Lackey." -- Graysnail.

by Mezza on Dec 21, 2009 7:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Sure, but the Nats aren't going to get that guy......

   I believe it was Pineiro who the Yankees are rumoured to be waiting to scoop up after all the other best offers are out there…
  Seriously, who else is out there that isn’t an injury risk or too expensive?

Mezza: ''Are we there yet?'' ...Roscoe: "In baseball hell? Yes we are."
— without making a deal," Rizzo said."

by cat daddy3000 on Dec 21, 2009 7:11 PM EST up reply actions  

well,if the deal talks with the dodgers is any indication

“The Reds are asking for one or two players on the Dodgers’ major league roster in return.”

id be more than happy to do this with our roster

by martins on Dec 21, 2009 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

harang

is making $10 million a year isn’t he? So who do the Nats trade to get him? Harang looked great 3 seasons ago, but looked pretty mediocre the past 2 (injuries or not). Chances are, the team would have to give up too much just to take a risk on Harang returning to 2006/7 form. $10 million per + decent players on the roster = too much.

Alex Smith may have been the #1 overall pick but he still can’t tell why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch.

by Andrew Davidson on Dec 21, 2009 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Marquis was prob the 2nd or 3rd best pitcher on the market...

Outside of Roy Halliday…Im not sure what ppl expect a 100 loss team will attract.

"I love, love, love John Lackey." -- Graysnail.

by Mezza on Dec 21, 2009 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

again, going by the dodgers talks

the Reds would pay some of that contract…. even with two somewhat mediocore seasons.. check out some of these numbers:

Last season he had 7.9 k/9… his career average is 7.5

he had 2.4 bb/9… carre avg: 2.5

he has pitched in a launching pad his whole career… the truth is he is a strikeout machine who dosent walk anybody… he is a steal at this point… and he is way better than anyone left on the market (and certainly much better than jason marquis)

by martins on Dec 21, 2009 7:30 PM EST up reply actions  

perhaps

but I still think giving up two MLB players would be a bit much for Harang. Unless those two players are Guzman and Dukes, but I doubt the Reds would play ball with that kind of offer.

Alex Smith may have been the #1 overall pick but he still can’t tell why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch.

by Andrew Davidson on Dec 21, 2009 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

its tough to tell what they would actual want

there are certainly no specifics in there…. but hey, this is an organization that has kept dusty baker around for all this time…

I bet we can take em… :)

I dont really think theyd ant too much, people will look at his last two seasons… I feel like he’s serious lowballed at this point, which is why I think this is perfect.

by martins on Dec 21, 2009 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

12.75 with a 250k bonus for 210 innings.

He has been dung the past couple years, but he may see a spike in productivity if he leaves Cinci. I love the idea if he regains any form, but he seems a bit too pricey, though it depends on what we give up for him.

His splits are somehow better at home, perhaps its just messing with his head playing in a bandbox.

People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~Rogers Hornsby

by Bsullivan on Dec 22, 2009 1:28 AM EST up reply actions  

well

I know what you mean, the market iis pretty thin. However, all things being equal, I would much rather have Pinero.. Almost a full walk less per game career (2.6) pretty much equal Hr’s given up per game career (1.0) (1.1 for Marquis) Better K/bb Ratio (2.18)

That being said, I don’t really love him either… but anyone who dosen’t let guys on base in a big ballbark has a chance to do well.

To be honest, though i’d much rather attempt a trade… i’ve mentioned before that, despite his rocky past 2 seasons Aaron Harang ( in which hes been banged up) was one of the best pitchers in the league a couple of years ago, and the reds need all kinds of offensive help…. I dunno.

But as it stands, it seems like Pinero is the better choice over Marquis.

by martins on Dec 21, 2009 3:41 PM EST reply actions  

Except Pinero wants $10mil+ a year for four or five years.......That's just not realistic for the Nats.

Mezza: ''Are we there yet?'' ...Roscoe: "In baseball hell? Yes we are."
— without making a deal," Rizzo said."

by cat daddy3000 on Dec 21, 2009 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

well, that's not realistic for anyone with a guy like Pinero

I have a feeling that number will come down… regardless.. the only argument for Marquis seems to be “there was no one else” why should we feel good about that?

by martins on Dec 21, 2009 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

There's also the issue of who's willing to sign wth the Nats....

  Mediocre is an upgrade over first half 2009……

Mezza: ''Are we there yet?'' ...Roscoe: "In baseball hell? Yes we are."
— without making a deal," Rizzo said."

by cat daddy3000 on Dec 21, 2009 6:51 PM EST up reply actions  

2 years- $15 million

www.TheNatsBlog.com

by yardyoder on Dec 21, 2009 3:44 PM EST reply actions  

That is reasonable!!

I really like the signing, he can help us out alot and we need 1 more veteran starting pitcher to go with him. If we can get Garland or Pinero that would be awsome Rizzo seems like he had a plan going into this off season and is sticking to it. We need Capps or get McDougle back also, Chapman would be huge I just dont see them spending that much money.

by rbolt on Dec 21, 2009 3:52 PM EST reply actions  

Spend their money!!! Just save enough for next year's No. 1 draft pick!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Dec 21, 2009 4:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Sign 'em all, and let McChatty sort 'em out....

Nationals Among Leading Candidates For Capps per MLBTR
   "Crasnick writes, “Agent Paul Kinzer said the Nationals weren’t a factor when Capps began considering his options as a free agent. But Washington is now among the leading candidates to sign Capps because of the efforts of general manager Mike Rizzo.”

Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports tweets that the Nationals still have money left to sign Matt Capps, assuming he wants to go there. Morosi expects Capps to decide on his next team this week.

Mezza: ''Are we there yet?'' ...Roscoe: "In baseball hell? Yes we are."
— without making a deal," Rizzo said."

by cat daddy3000 on Dec 21, 2009 6:35 PM EST up reply actions  

IN RIZZO WE TRUST!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Dec 21, 2009 7:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Mr. Ladson just tweeted that Nyjer Morgan and Sean Burnett have teamed up to take on Gorzelanny and that other Cubs' pitcher...

in the attempt to lure former teammates to new destinations…

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Dec 21, 2009 7:21 PM EST up reply actions  

ex-Pirates RAWK!!!

Mezza: ''Are we there yet?'' ...Roscoe: "In baseball hell? Yes we are."
— without making a deal," Rizzo said."

by cat daddy3000 on Dec 21, 2009 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

PIRATES!

"I love, love, love John Lackey." -- Graysnail.

by Mezza on Dec 21, 2009 7:23 PM EST up reply actions  

MILLEDGE RULZ!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Dec 21, 2009 7:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually love McCutchen though....

We got to see his best game of the year…

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Dec 21, 2009 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

He's no Tony Plush

"I love, love, love John Lackey." -- Graysnail.

by Mezza on Dec 21, 2009 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

That's understood...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Dec 21, 2009 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Let's Hope This Isn't One of Marquis' Off Years

Marquis was big time suckage with the Cubbies but I’m convinced that McChatty can do a better job with him than Larry a/k/a “The Throwing Guy” Rothschild did in Chicago. As for Pinero … we affectionately call him “Pinata” in our house. Just say no to him.

Patiently waiting for "next year" since 1971.

by Princess Jazzy on Dec 21, 2009 4:14 PM EST reply actions  

No to Pinata, YES To Chapman!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Dec 21, 2009 4:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Chapman kind of scares me ...

Not sure he’s the real thing. If he is, though, he and Strasburg would certainly liven things up around D.C. :)

Patiently waiting for "next year" since 1971.

by Princess Jazzy on Dec 21, 2009 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree

I have huge doubts over him as far as im concered…

"I love, love, love John Lackey." -- Graysnail.

by Mezza on Dec 21, 2009 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess I just have bigger doubts aboot the contributions mid-30's and older starters can contribute...

If they’re building for the future, sign the 21-year-old flamethrower…he’s not going to get so much that it will hamstring the organization or anything…think of it, (as NFA_Brian tweeted today) as an extra draft pick (and i’m paraphrasing him), but it would be like getting 3 #1 picks in the space of two years….

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Dec 21, 2009 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

contributions they can contribute...ugh...can't even blame iPhone for that ...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Dec 21, 2009 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

How much more do we really need to invest in starting pitchers after this?

In their system that is (referring to Chapman)
Lannan
Marquis
Zimmermann
Strasburg
Detwiler
Stammen
Martis
Martin
Mock

www.TheNatsBlog.com

by yardyoder on Dec 21, 2009 4:35 PM EST reply actions  

well, depends on how many of the list work out...

Lannan and marquis are certs. Zimm(n) wont be back till mid-year at the earlist and will need some time to settle. Stras will need a little bit of time in the minors to learn. Det and Stammen could be good players to fill the rotation…and that’s really it for bonafide starter material… the rest need to step it up if they have a shot.

I do like the fact we have more choice than just Ortiz, etc

"I love, love, love John Lackey." -- Graysnail.

by Mezza on Dec 21, 2009 5:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Heh, just sent that same list to a friend wondering aboot 20-10 DC rotation...

Lannan, Marquis…and whichever 3 from that list have a good Spring Training…

And still, the rest of the league will laugh at that list…for now…

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Dec 21, 2009 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

The Marquis signing has blown up the comments at MLBTR....

  Metsies are getting a little “impatient”…….That’s a Xmas present in itself….

Mezza: ''Are we there yet?'' ...Roscoe: "In baseball hell? Yes we are."
— without making a deal," Rizzo said."

by cat daddy3000 on Dec 21, 2009 6:54 PM EST up reply actions  

one thing that caught my eye at MLBTR

“Marquis has no upside”. Really? None. If there really will be pitching for half the commitment in March, what’s to stop the Nats from adding to the staff? Someone hit up Bowden’s twitter, and see if he likes the contract. If he does, maybe MLBTR has a good point.

What did God’sBill James’ handbook forecast for Marquis in 2010? It didn’t include upset Mets fans, so he’s already surpassing expectations!

Alex Smith may have been the #1 overall pick but he still can’t tell why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch.

by Andrew Davidson on Dec 21, 2009 7:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Heck, he's a winner before throwing a pitch!!........ (re: upsetting Mets' fans)

  Dierkes is apparently hard to please…….Sign junk = bad, sign stars = bad…….not going to contend?………..why sign anybody…..

  Yeah, for the money we could’ve had both Redding and Odalis…… Ramon Ortiz is available!!……..jeez…..

Mezza: ''Are we there yet?'' ...Roscoe: "In baseball hell? Yes we are."
— without making a deal," Rizzo said."

by cat daddy3000 on Dec 21, 2009 7:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Odalis Perez is apparently still not taking the Nationals' calls...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Dec 21, 2009 7:23 PM EST up reply actions  

The Mets are scared...

I can feel it. They are headed for a nice 5th in 2010

"I love, love, love John Lackey." -- Graysnail.

by Mezza on Dec 21, 2009 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Looking to sign Pedro..........that's a little desperate

Mezza: ''Are we there yet?'' ...Roscoe: "In baseball hell? Yes we are."
— without making a deal," Rizzo said."

by cat daddy3000 on Dec 21, 2009 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

i pretty much agree

besides throwing a bunch of innings…. what does the guy do well?

by martins on Dec 21, 2009 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Okay, I'm marking you down as Not a Friend of Marquis....

   Has Winn signed yet?

Mezza: ''Are we there yet?'' ...Roscoe: "In baseball hell? Yes we are."
— without making a deal," Rizzo said."

by cat daddy3000 on Dec 21, 2009 7:29 PM EST up reply actions  

heh

juut responding to the comments made is all

by martins on Dec 21, 2009 7:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I guess I'm just happy they didn't hold out...............

 …and invite 50 minor league pitchers to Spring Training……..again…

Mezza: ''Are we there yet?'' ...Roscoe: "In baseball hell? Yes we are."
— without making a deal," Rizzo said."

by cat daddy3000 on Dec 21, 2009 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Mark me down as a Friend of Marquis

"Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?"--The Brain

by brook on Dec 21, 2009 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

That's a pretty good endorsement......

Mezza: ''Are we there yet?'' ...Roscoe: "In baseball hell? Yes we are."
— without making a deal," Rizzo said."

by cat daddy3000 on Dec 21, 2009 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

in 16 of his starts

Marquis went 7 or more innings of work. Plus one for our bullpen’s rest. In those starts, he gave up 17 ER. Plus two for the run support the Nats lineup can “potentially” provide for when Marquis has a good outing.

Yeah Marquis walks a lot of batters, and doesn’t strike out a bunch either. However, I’m putting some optimism in this signing. The bargains are still going to be out there in March, what’s to stop the Nats from still taking a shot at another guy?

Alex Smith may have been the #1 overall pick but he still can’t tell why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch.

by Andrew Davidson on Dec 21, 2009 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Marquis gave up 15HR all season?

I think Hanrahan gave up 15HR in an inning last year…

"I love, love, love John Lackey." -- Graysnail.

by Mezza on Dec 21, 2009 7:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm sure MissB remembers it that way too last year......

   Joel would not get truffles made for him….

Mezza: ''Are we there yet?'' ...Roscoe: "In baseball hell? Yes we are."
— without making a deal," Rizzo said."

by cat daddy3000 on Dec 21, 2009 7:41 PM EST up reply actions  

It sure felt like it some days...

Apart from Beimel… who had those rugged good looks… I dont think many of the pen had truffles made for them last year…

"I love, love, love John Lackey." -- Graysnail.

by Mezza on Dec 21, 2009 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Won't it be great not to have that sinking feeling wondering who's coming out of the bullpen?

Mezza: ''Are we there yet?'' ...Roscoe: "In baseball hell? Yes we are."
— without making a deal," Rizzo said."

by cat daddy3000 on Dec 21, 2009 7:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, just for spite because we all know ...

MissB has a dim view if Hanrahan’s ability as closer, I checked the game stats for Hanrahan.

In June 2009, he allowed 14 runs to score though he didn’t give up any HRs. One of the uglier games was on 6.4.09 when he allowed 3 runs to score without recording any oouts!

No truffles for any of them!

by MissB on Dec 21, 2009 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

If the deal is really 2 years, $15 million

that’s not much of a money grab, is it? I mean, seriously, I’d have to think the Mets could afford to match that salary or better it. Maybe Marquis actually wants to come here, and actually wants to teach the youngsters a thing or two. Yeah, his playoff streak is likely over, but wouldn’t it be cool if it was extended?

Also, will the Nats still chase Garland? Or is this move more a case of “should’ve taken the deal when we had it on the table, Jon because our boy just signed”?

Personally I’m happy Marquis signed, while I don’t think he’s fantastic, I do think this improves last season’s rotation. Next Up: Middle Infielder? Closer? Chapman (I’m with Ed on this one, sign the guy!)?

Alex Smith may have been the #1 overall pick but he still can’t tell why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch.

by Andrew Davidson on Dec 21, 2009 4:59 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed

You’d also have to think pitching in that huge park could greatly benefit your career, so take a mil less to benefit more on the end of the deal. If things go badly with the Nats (and they very well could) his career could be shot.

People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~Rogers Hornsby

by Bsullivan on Dec 22, 2009 1:32 AM EST up reply actions  

lots of ??? on that list

Mock+Martin+Martis = not very good or at best not ready
Stammen was solid for a rookie
Detwiler, jury is still out on him
Zimmerman might not be the same after the injury
and Stasburg shouldn’t be pitching this year so your left with

1.Lannan
2.Marquis
3.Olsen
4.?
5.?
who fills this out ? I would rather have Stammen and Detwiler with another veteran in the mix

by rbolt on Dec 21, 2009 5:00 PM EST reply actions  

I was referring to our system, and how we didn’t need to sign Chapman. I think Stammen, Detwiler, MArtis, and Mock can share two rotational spots pretty easily. Probably will be the best thing.

www.TheNatsBlog.com

by yardyoder on Dec 21, 2009 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

blah...I should have just said +1

"I love, love, love John Lackey." -- Graysnail.

by Mezza on Dec 21, 2009 5:55 PM EST up reply actions  

SIgn Jon Garland anyway...

After Marquis and Lannan, it gets scary

by tengoalyrunr30 on Dec 21, 2009 5:18 PM EST reply actions  

I agree - Garland would almost set us up for a decent solid season...

3 decent pitchers…hopefully a decent pen. And if the offsense play to form we wont be finishing 5th in 2010.

"I love, love, love John Lackey." -- Graysnail.

by Mezza on Dec 21, 2009 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Home late...just saw the news...

I’m glad to see Marquis come the Nationals. I liked him when he was with the Cubs. I think many Cub fans set their expectations of him too high, he’s good enough to be in a team’s starting rotation, but he’s not necessary the team ace. I think many Cub fans wanted him to be more like Zambrano or Lilly than be himself.

You’re getting an experienced pitcher who’s a proven innings eater which will save the bullpen at times. He’s a decent hitting pitcher and a good pinch runner to boot. I like this signing.

"Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?"--The Brain

by brook on Dec 21, 2009 7:24 PM EST reply actions  

What do you think aboot the Yanks asking for Zambrano?

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Dec 21, 2009 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Asking is not getting, as they say...

I know they asked but apparently the price set by the Cubs was too high. Don’t know what the Yankees offered or what the Cubs countered with, but it the Yankees thought they could Zambrano for Melky Cabrera, they would be deluded. I know that while Zambrano has been somewhat disappointing the last couple of seasons (I maintain Ted LIlly is our true ace and only let’s Zambrano think he is), he still worth some serious players and maybe some money in a trade.

"Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?"--The Brain

by brook on Dec 21, 2009 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Ooops...

“..he’s still worth ..”

"Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?"--The Brain

by brook on Dec 21, 2009 8:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for the scout report Brook

I personally think that its a great signing that was needed a long, long time ago. A solid pitcher.

"I love, love, love John Lackey." -- Graysnail.

by Mezza on Dec 21, 2009 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Even if he's just the guy who stops consecutive four-game losing streaks he's worth it...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Dec 21, 2009 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

That wont happen this year...

I promise.

"I love, love, love John Lackey." -- Graysnail.

by Mezza on Dec 21, 2009 7:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Good GET for the WORST team in baseball....

but Marquis is a notorious PSYCHO case…….probably why he was available….

by The Mamba on Dec 21, 2009 7:58 PM EST reply actions  

That was something the Cardinals were claiming...

Other than one minor disagreement with Lou, he was fine with the Cubs. And I haven’t heard anything bad about his time with the Rockies. He was available because his contract with the Rockies was finished.

"Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?"--The Brain

by brook on Dec 21, 2009 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

he is a competitor

which is good, he gets angry when he doesn’t pitch well

People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~Rogers Hornsby

by Bsullivan on Dec 22, 2009 1:34 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm relieved that Rizzo got at least one on his list.

Marquis is a start. I’m still hoping for Garland or another veteran starter. Too many of the youngsters just aren’t ready to be starters yet. They definitely weren’t ready this past year.

Bowden!

by MissB on Dec 21, 2009 9:46 PM EST reply actions  

the next vet arm

do you think it will be Garland, or perhaps searching the bargain bin come March? I’m ok with either to be honest.

Alex Smith may have been the #1 overall pick but he still can’t tell why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch.

by Andrew Davidson on Dec 21, 2009 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Naturally, I hope it'll be Garland rather than a bargain basement choice.

My real pick is Piniero, but I’ve been told in no uncertain terms that I’m nuts to even think the Nats could get in one the bidding for him.

And since I’m basically playing with Monopoly money here, I say spend the bucks now to get a decent veteran arm.

Fortunately, Rizzo is NOT Jim Bowden. Therefore, he plans ahead and tries to fix the club rather than dumpster dive like Bowden did irrespective of team needs. (See: ‘09 Nats’ bullpen and concurrent over-crowded outfield ..or.. See: Kearns, A and Guzman, C with the giant unloadable contracts when it was already past their expiration dates).

by MissB on Dec 22, 2009 12:16 AM EST reply actions  

They got their signing

Marquis is fine, not great, but fine. He could end up 10-10, if he is any better, he has a reasonable contract that is very movable. He gets hot, send him along like the Mariners sent Washburn to the Tigers. That is the best case scenario, get a few youngsters.

I still throw money at higher upside individuals than Garland at this point. You have several youngsters who are a hair or two worse than he is, give them the ball, or find someone who has proven excellence at some point. (still think its bedard and wang).

People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~Rogers Hornsby

by Bsullivan on Dec 22, 2009 1:38 AM EST reply actions  

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