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Washington Nationals Interested In John Smoltz Acc. To FOXSports.com's Ken Rosenthal.

In explaining what sort of pitcher it is that the Washington Nationals are interested in acquiring this winter, DC GM Mike Rizzo told MLB.com's Bill Ladson, in an early November article entitled, "Nats interested in free agent Lackey", that the team was looking for, "a solid veteran pitcher", while acknowledging that convincing such a pitcher to join a team looking to rebound from back-to-back 100-loss seasons would not be an easy sell:

"'You have to show the veteran pitcher what the plan is, our plan for success, how we are built to perform at this level at this given time.

"'We have to have a special type of veteran pitcher, who is willing to give of himself as a teacher and mentor type of guy. We have to get a team-oriented person, a person that is going to give his time and his knowledge. It's not an easy task.'"

Is John Smoltz that pitcher?

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FOXSports.com's Ken Rosenthal is reporting that a "source with knowledge of the discussions" tells him that, "There is a mutual sincere interest," between the Nationals and the 42-year-old veteran of  21 MLB seasons, who split the '09 campaign in Boston and St. Louis where he posted a combined (3-8) record with a 6.35 ERA, a 1.45 WHIP and 8.4 K/9 in 15 starts and 78.0 IP after recovering from a torn labrum in his right shoulder. 

Mr. Rosenthal writes that Smoltz would, "...almost certainly prefer to sign with a National League contender rather than the Nationals," with the Cardinals, "...remaining his top choice," but the FOXSports.com scribe notes that, "The Nationals will try to sell Smoltz," who has a history with DC team President Stan Kasten from the time both spent in Atlanta, "...on the idea of serving as a mentor to their young pitching staff. Smoltz might be intrigued by the notion, particularly if his other options are limited."

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Horrible Idea!!!

Nationals are going to be even worse in 2010…ok lets sign a bunch of old coaches who are washed up and try to sign John Smoltz GREAT IDEAS!!!

If I could run the team I would bring up Strausburg right away to start the season and try to sign Rich Harden. They really need to keep Ian Desmond and how about trading Ryan Zimmerman for Roy Halladay. That would be an awesome starting rotation and its really not that hard to find a good 3B to replace Zimmerman. How about getting a better catcher than Flores also.

Lineup would be:

1B Dunn
RF Dukes
2B Guzman
LF WIllingham
C ?
3B ?
SS Desmond
P ???
CF Nyjer Morgan

Nyjer Morgan has good speed but he would hit 9th on an american league team so I would have the pitcher spot at number 8 and try to get Dunn and Dukes the maximum number of at bats per game. Guzman would be a perfect number 3 in this lineup kind of reminds me when Vidro used hit in front of Vladimir Guerreo for the expos. Just take the money you would try to overpay john lackey and spend it on SP Rich Harden and a FA 3rd Baseman, trade Ryan Zimmerman for Roy Halladay and try to find a better replacement for C Jesus Flores.

by Aburd85 on Dec 4, 2009 1:46 PM EST reply actions  

first, there's no way they'd trade 24-year old Ryan Zimmerman for Roy Halladay

how do you figure .305 lifetime OBP Guzman is “a perfect number 3 hitter”?

injured Rich Harden? you mean, the guy who hasn’t thrown in two years?

Dunn leading off? and Dukes behind him? so you want Dunn to walk 300 times in a season, is that what you’re looking for?

appreciate the effort, but some of these ideas seem a little but more extreme than the Nats attempting to sign 42-year old John Smoltz to be their “mentor” starting pitcher.

Your voice of doom and gloom. Read more at natsnewsnetwork.blogspot.com

by Dave at District Sports Page on Dec 4, 2009 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

+1 Mr. Dave

You got to love the passion though…

by Berndaddy on Dec 4, 2009 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Hard time imagining Halladay waiving the no-trade clause for a move to Washinigton...

And Zim’s not dime-a-dozen…

I’d prefer a healthy Flores to any of the FA catchers out there…but a healthy catcher is a necessity this season and Bard/Nieves won’t do…

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Dec 4, 2009 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe this is the way we mo e yh

"I love, love, love John Lackey." -- Graysnail.

by Mezza on Dec 4, 2009 6:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Ooops iPhone fail

Maybe this is the way we move the team to Florida?

Worst team idea I’ve seen. Since I advocated the signing Jason Giambi.

"I love, love, love John Lackey." -- Graysnail.

by Mezza on Dec 4, 2009 7:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I'll just go on record here that if Smoltz is signed by the Nats...........

  I’ll boycott the Internet on the day he pitches….

Mezza: ''Are we there yet?'' ...Roscoe: "In baseball hell? Yes we are."
— without making a deal," Rizzo said."

by cat daddy3000 on Dec 5, 2009 4:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Ok but understand this...

The Nationals have ZERO starting pitching…Zimmerman is the best trade option we have. He is my favorite player on the team but if we trade him we can get a whole lot for him. Halladay is in his prime for a pitcher and could pitch for another 5-6 years. Combine him with Strausburg and Harden. Its a gamble to sign Harden but he is a really talented pitcher. Look at when the Red Sox signed Josh Becket early in his career he had injuries. Harden is a little risky but the reward is a #1 Pitcher. Trading Zimmerman for another #1 like Halladay and Having Strausburg in the rotation would Help. Don’t forget Lannan would be a decent #4 started and Jordan Zimmerman is pretty good. Put the younger talented pitching into the bullpen like the Yankee’s did with Joba Chamberlain and they can learn at the MLB level instead of being stuck in one of the worst Minor League systems. Our hitting is pretty good but honestly for a 3B Zimmerman is not the best hitter out there. Check this out…

Number 1 we need pitching…

We can spend $20,000,000
Sign some quality free agents and trade Zimmerman
Let the younger talent learn in the MLB not get stuck in the minors.

I would sign….

Vladimir Guerrero type B so we would lose a 2nd round pick He wants to start so put him in RF and move Dukes to LF.
CF Rocco Baldelli – Minor Leauges in case of injuries
SS Khalil Greene – Solid fielder
3B Troy Glaus – to replace Zimmerman he is 33 years old and still has 2 good years left.
OF Rick Ankiel – Lots of talent and potentiality…maybe let him pitch a little too when he isn’t in the lineup. possible left hand power bat off the bench
3B Bobby Crosby – Good defensive backup at 3B Minor Leagues
P Jose Contreras – at 38 years old he would be a great closer option look at Mariano Rivera.
P Rich Harden – 28 Type B FA lose a draft pick but worth it.
P Brett Myers – 29
P Kelvim Escobar 33 – Bullpen setup man or closer

MY DREAM 2010 25 man Roster

C – Brandon Inge TRADE from DETROIT for Josh Willingham
1B – Adam Dunn
2B – Cristian Guzman
SS – Ian Desmond
3B – Troy Glaus FA
OF – Elijah Dukes
OF- Nyjer Morgan
OF – Vladimir Guerrero FA

Bench -

C Jose Bautista – I know he is not a Catcher but transition him to Catcher he can play OF and IF (get him in the Roy Halladay Deal from Toronto)
UTIL – Khali Greene
UTIL – Destin Hood
OF- Rocco Baldelli
1B – Mike Morse

Starting Rotation

1. RHP Roy Halladay – TRADE Ryan Zimmerman
2. LHP Dontrell WIllis TRADE / Brandon Inge from Tigers for Josh WIllingham + prospects
3. RHP Rich Harden – FA
4. LHP John Lannan –
5. RHP Stephen Strausburg

Maybe even consider going to a 4 man Rotation and let Strausburg pitch out of the bullpen to start out.

…put the young talent t in the Bullpen to learn:

MR – Jordan ZImmerman
MR – Jack McGeary LHP work in progress but coming out of the bullpen can learn
MR – Ross Detwiler LHP
Short Relief – Drew Storen RHP #2 Draft pick 20 years old talented
LR – Brett Myers FA – Very Talented
SU – Shairon Martis – Would fit very well as a setup man I think
CL Kelvim Escobar – FA

Combine that rotation with the FA signings with some key trades and this could be a very nice team that will sell out the stadium with excitement every night. People will forget about Zimmerman once we start winning games.
 
Lineup:

R Elijah Dukes (LF)
L Nyjer Morgan (CF)
S Cristian Guzman (2B)
R Vladimir Guerrero (RF)
L Adam Dunn (1B)
R Troy Glaus (3B)
R Brandon Inge / Jose Bautista PLATOON ©
*P -———-*
R Ian Desmond (SS)

I know all NL teams hit the pitcher 9th but i think its better to hit the pitcher 8th, the worst hitter should always hit 8th to have a good option for the top of the order and Desmond would be fine hitting 9th.

by Aburd85 on Dec 4, 2009 8:38 PM EST up reply actions  

What?

Why not just say that you’d like to trade our roster for the roster of the Yankees or the Red Sox? That would be easier than signing and trading for all these people you’re mentioning. Maybe this would work for fantasy baseball but this has zero chance of happening in real life.

Why on Earth are you so set on trading Zimmerman? He won a Gold Glove and Silver Slugger award this year. That says right there that he is not “just another 3B”. His loss would open up huge holes in the middle of the lineup and on the left side of the infield.

Obviously the team needs to upgrade the pitching staff but it looks like it won’t be that easy with the group of available players this winter. There may not be a true gamebreaker available. Even if there were, I don’t think they would sign with the Nats for 2010. Unfortunately a lot is riding on the continued development of Lannan, Stammen and maybe Strasburg. No one knows how Olson’s shoulder will hold up and it looks like Livan won’t be back.

If Rizzo can sign Smoltz to a reasonable contract, then it might be worthwhile to bring him in. Maybe more as a pitcher/coach/mentor/5th starter or spot starter. It would probably be a one-year deal so signing him won’t ruin the salary structure for 2011 and beyond. If he gets injured during the season, then just make him an assistant to the pitching coach.

I’m not saying that I don’t want to see a lot of improvement for next year. I do. It’s just that I’m not seeing an easy way to accomplish that right now other than to HOPE that the young pitchers make a big leap in their development by April. With Riggleman and the bullpen they had in the 2nd half of 2009, the Nats should be able to avoid another 100-loss season. But it’ll be tough to do much better than that unless Strasburg lights up the league as a rookie.

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The Washington Nationals, the team of the 2010s!

by Potomac Fan on Dec 5, 2009 1:58 AM EST up reply actions  

I've always liked u Potomac

Althou I’ve taken the Nats to back to back WS wins in 3 years (out of the park baseball).

And I did it with Zim. Stras didn’t work out thou. :)

"I love, love, love John Lackey." -- Graysnail.

by Mezza on Dec 5, 2009 4:02 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Delusion reigns on Washington

Smolz and Padilla already told the WORST team in baseball this summer to kiss their grits…when they signed with pennant contenders……ditto O-dog and Teixiera……

Good luck Rizzo…you’ll need all you can get to sell this .364 team to top tier free agents who’ll be managed by a .444 Retread.

by The Mamba on Dec 4, 2009 7:20 PM EST reply actions  

Why so bitter, Mr. Valentine?

:)
C’mon, man. The winter meetings haven’t even started yet.

Patiently waiting for "next year" since 1971.

by Princess Jazzy on Dec 4, 2009 8:54 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

heh....... me likey....

Mezza: ''Are we there yet?'' ...Roscoe: "In baseball hell? Yes we are."
— without making a deal," Rizzo said."

by cat daddy3000 on Dec 5, 2009 4:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Aburd...

c’mon now, they aren’t trading Ryan Zimmerman for anyone. He is the face of the franchise and figures to be in the heart of their lineup for the next decade plus. I agree starting pitcher is a must fix, but so is the bullpen and the middle infield. There are way too many problem areas to start throwing our best player away to fix just one.

trading zim talk is liable to get you tarred and feathered in this neck of the woods! also, inge hasn’t played catcher in years and if he did I would imagine you would see his power further diminished.

by VA SLIM on Dec 8, 2009 4:14 AM EST reply actions  

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