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Washington Nationals: Winter Meetings Wrap.

Before the Winter Meetings, the Washington Nationals made clear that they did not think it was absolutely essential that they add the pitching help they need from the top of the free agent class or within the three-day span of the Indianapolis Winter Meetings, as DC GM Mike Rizzo explained to MLB.com's Bill Ladson, who wrote in a 12/2/09 article entitled, "Pitching the focus for Nats at Meetings", that fans shouldn't, "...look for the the Nationals to attempt to break the bank," in pursuit of free agent help, as they did last Winter in their pursuit of Mark Teixeira, who we've been told, time and again, was seen as a once-in-a-generation talent, but instead should accept the fact that it's more, "...likely that Rizzo will make trades." 

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• The LIST.

• Oh...AND LIVAN HERNANDEZ!

• Guzman To Second, Desmond At Short?

• Bally To The Bullpen? WT...

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• The LIST as the DC Faithful are calling it, (ed. note - "No one is calling it that."), that Rizzo gave to Washington Post writer Chico Harlan for an article entitled, "Reading Material, Shopping Lists", of pitchers that the Nationals were interested in this winter, started with 14 names, but as the Winter Meetings officially end following tomorrow's Rule 5 Draft, the list has been shortened some, from, "Jason Marquis, Randy Wolf, John Lackey, Cliff Lee, Jon Garland, Kevin Millwood, Tim Hudson, Brad Penny, Joel Piñeiro, Braden Looper, Jarrod Washburn, Brandon Webb, Brett Myers, John Smoltz and more..." to, as the Post's Chico Harlan wrote in two Nationals Journal posts entitled, "The starting pitching shopping list", and "The starting pitching, Pt. II":

"(Jon Garland and)...almost every established free agent starting pitcher except the A-lister, John Lackey. So, the Nats would entertain the possibility of Jarrod Washburn, Joel Pineiro, Vicente Padilla, Jason Marquis, and John Smoltz."

• Oh...AND LIVAN HERNANDEZ!

After Washington Post writer Dave Sheinin wrote about Elijah Dukes' winter, he added a note to the end of an article entitled, "Nationals notes: Dukes, L. Hernandez", about the Washington Nationals making contract with the agent for Mr. National Himself, Livan Hernandez, the original Nationals' Ace, who has openly expressed his desire to return to the nation's capital since the end of the '09 season. Mr. Sheinin writes that Hernandez's agent, "(Barry) Praver would not characterize the talks", but in the Washington Post writer's opinion it would take, "...a one-year contract with a low base and ample performance incentives."

-- (ed. note - "Do you want to see Livan Hernandez return to the Nationals? From what I've read in the comments, it's pretty much split amongst the DC Faithful...Should the Nationals let Livan teach Strasburg the eephus?")

• Guzman To Second, Desmond At Short?

MLB.com's Bill Ladson was Twittering throughout the Winter Meetings, letting Nationals' fans know what was going on long before it went into print (as were the Washington Times' writers), and the biggest revelation out of the final day in Indianapolis was that the Nationals had made up their minds about what to do with their twenty-ten middle infield:

"It appears the Nats will take a chance with Cristian Guzman at second base. That means Orlando Hudson is not coming to DC."

Does that mean that Ian Desmond is officially a "Go!" at short? Are the Nationals still going to try to find another option at short?

• Bally To The Bullpen? WT...

The other interesting thing that MLB.com's Bill Ladson Twittered was the idea that:

"The Nats may rely on some of their youngsters in the bullpen. Luis Atilano, Collin Balester and Craig Stammen are candidates."

As the Nationals' system produces more pitching, some of the older starters who haven't established themselves are going to have to make the move to the pen to make room for the next wave of pitchers. Is Balester on that list in your mind? (ed. note - "Not mine.")...What about J.D. Martin? Shairon Martis? Atilano? Stammen? Ross Detwiler? Is this Washington's way of saying why sign relievers when we have all these arms under contract?

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Bally wants to be starter...

I think bullpen-wise it’s sensible for some to end up there. That said, I also think that some of them need to be on the block to be traded for some talent in other areas (middle IF).

I hope Desmond gets the shot at SS. Spend the cash on a free agent starter Rizzo!

"I love, love, love John Lackey." -- Graysnail.

by Mezza on Dec 9, 2009 8:55 PM EST reply actions  

I'd prefer to see Bally starting...

A tweet just went out that said the Blue Jays (w/ Dana Brown) were interested in Stammen, but no deal came aboot…

I want Desmond at short, but if Desmond doesn’t have a good Spring, then what?

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Dec 9, 2009 9:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Austin Kearns had a good ST last year...

I dont put too much in it… sometimes u have to decide to give a kid like Desmond a shot and see how he goes.

@Stammen trade – depending on who we get in return…Stammen is one of the guys id be moving.

"I love, love, love John Lackey." -- Graysnail.

by Mezza on Dec 9, 2009 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Why are the Nats settleing?

Upgrade second base with Hudson. Upgrade the bullpen with more/better veteran starters. Sign a good starting pitcher.
And as for Livan, he has a “desire” to return to the Nats. How often are we gonna find someone who really wants to play for us during this off-season? Sign him. He isn’t that much of a risk.

Get Oher or Maybin please

by Horcasitas4 on Dec 9, 2009 9:28 PM EST reply actions  

Who speaks Spanish? I'm having trouble with this translation?

“De igual manera, los Tigres desistieron de traer de vuelta al jardinero norteamericano Elijah Dukes, quien partió hacia los Estados Unidos por la muerte de su padre, pero dejó plantado al Licey en varias oportunidades.

"Ya al Licey no le interesa tener de vuelta a Elijah Dukes", informó Busto."

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Dec 9, 2009 9:40 PM EST reply actions  

North American Gardener Elijah Dukes!

Good ol Babelfish.


Of equal way, the Tigers stopped to bring of return the North American gardener Elijah Dukes, who started off for the United States by the death of his father, but left planted to the Licey in several opportunities. " To the Licey it already does not interest to him to have of return to Elijah Dukes" , Busto." informed;

"I love, love, love John Lackey." -- Graysnail.

by Mezza on Dec 9, 2009 9:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Tough to get some of it but it almost seems like maybe they were sick of him and don’t want him back.

Where’s Berndaddy?

by RoscoeNats on Dec 9, 2009 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s given us some great positional nicknames.
SS = Torpedo Boat
OF = Gardener’s

God knows what a catcher is…

"I love, love, love John Lackey." -- Graysnail.

by Mezza on Dec 9, 2009 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

The Right Gardner Elijah Dukes rips a line drive right in NY's Torpedo Boat Jose Reyes' glove...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Dec 9, 2009 10:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

That last line is what's killing me...

They’re not interested in having him return? Aren’t rushing his return? I’m going to Twitter the last line and ask for assistance…

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Dec 9, 2009 10:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I wouldnt blame him from having some time off...

Riggles chatted to him last week and he is clearly devestated. Playing in the DWL is probably not the best for him at the moment.

"I love, love, love John Lackey." -- Graysnail.

by Mezza on Dec 9, 2009 10:12 PM EST up reply actions  

strange

he wasn’t there very long the first time, and hit two HRs in like four games or something. how can someone make that bad an impresion in four games? wait, don’t answer that.

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by Dave at Nats News Network on Dec 10, 2009 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Similarly, the Tigers gave up trying to bring back American outfielder Elijah Dukes, who left for the United States for the death of his father, but left him standing at Licey on several occasions.

“Since the Licey is not interested in having back to Elijah Dukes,” said Busto.

The winter season ends next December 21.

Mezza: ''Are we there yet?'' ...Roscoe: "In baseball hell? Yes we are."
— without making a deal," Rizzo said."

by cat daddy3000 on Dec 10, 2009 12:36 AM EST up reply actions  

I thought Puerto rican spanish was bad. I've asked a friend to have a look...

Licey’s been waiting for him after his father died but Dukes doesn’t want to come back to play.
Translation per Juan at work to verify. My translation had them not wanting him but it’s the other way around…

Sounds like a good thing to me. this guys a mess right now and the Nats would only be asking for an international situation if that make him play. IMHO …

by Berndaddy on Dec 10, 2009 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I have a post on Dukes going up around 12:30, if you could add this translation to that I would appreciate it...

Sorry, just can’t get home right now, or i’d copy/paste it in…

How can you blame Dukes, this sounds like a tough situation…

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Dec 10, 2009 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

He was 12 when his father went in to prison...

… it’s nothing but sad. Sad all around for Dukes. My heart goes out to him. My youngest brother did four years and it was the worst four years of my life. To go through all the worry of an imprisoned family member and to have them come back home with all that hope floating and than to learn he’s dying and than to see him die three weeks afterwards…man that just sucks.

by Berndaddy on Dec 10, 2009 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Since a virtual DY Wave is all I can do....

DY Wave to Dukes…

Going to go call my pops now…

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Dec 10, 2009 12:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

No to get to personal but..

… My Dad died while my brother was in prison. He tried to get the warden to let him out to go to the funeral. He wasn’t allowed, but the long in short is that’s the moment when he realized he was in prison and he’s actions produced a cause and effect.

For Dukes there ‘s only two ways he can roll now. The same road he’s been on the angry man who’s being a loner and taking everything out on the world or let this be a wake up call to do things the right way from here on out and let his father rest in peace. History tells us this won’t end well, but hey, I’ve seen the worst case scenario turn into a wonderful blessing in my brother’s life. It’s a pleasure to say things are only up for him. I truly pray the same for Elijah Dukes. Whether or not he can hit a curveball in the future.

by Berndaddy on Dec 10, 2009 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

+1,000,000

Thanks for that Berndaddy.

by RoscoeNats on Dec 11, 2009 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Just what was Expected.......

So far…Slaten…Bruney…..Grandpa Pudgie……..Owens…….hey, they’re the WORST team in baseball with a new RETREAD Manager……..IT IS WHAT IT IS

by The Mamba on Dec 9, 2009 10:31 PM EST reply actions  

An aside: What's going on with the Washington Times?

I thought the Washington Times was downsizing, basically getting rid of everything except for D.C. political coverage and some op-ed writers. That means no more local news, no national news, no international news, no metro or arts sections… and no more sports coverage. At least that’s what I read on the AP last week.

As for Livan, he would be a low-risk signing. They could probably even sign him to a nonguaranteed minor league contract with incentives based on number of starts, number of wins, number of innings, ERA and so on. If he doesn’t work out, they could just release him and not suffer financially. If he turns out to have one more mediocre season in him, then it’ll be a nice bonus, particularly since there are still a lot of holes in the starting rotation. At this point, it sounds like the only guaranteed starter is John Lannan. Unless something happens in the next few months, 2010 could end up a lot like 2009. I hope the top brass isn’t counting on Stammen and Detwiler to magically turn into Cy Young candidates in their 2nd seasons. Strasburg could be a great pitcher some day but no one can say whether he’ll adjust to the big leagues by next spring.

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The Washington Nationals, the team of the 2010s!

by Potomac Fan on Dec 9, 2009 11:19 PM EST reply actions  

I think that the FO will grab a decent FA starter

Even if they have to overpay for Garland, Padilla, Pavano…etc. Rizzo looks like he will do a deal on one of those guys at any cost (judging by the Pudge signing). IF that happens, Livo is a great deal. If not – then I shudder that he might be our ‘top of the rotation’ guy… he isnt. He’s a 5th starter at best. With Lannan and a decent free agent….with Livan u just have to plug 2 holes with Baly, Stammen, etc. That’s do-able.

"I love, love, love John Lackey." -- Graysnail.

by Mezza on Dec 10, 2009 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

The Nationals Journal seems to interpret the SS/2B prospect differently

than Ladson:

In the search for a 2B or SS, Rizzo now sees the signing/acquisition of a 2B as being more likely, especially with free agents Adam Everett and Bobby Crosby off the market. “I think there’s certainly more second baseman available of interest than there are shortstops of interest,” Rizzo said.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/nationalsjournal/
I’m encouraged that they’re still looking for better defense. It also tells me that they don’t feel Desmond is ready for the big time.

by MissB on Dec 10, 2009 1:41 AM EST reply actions  

Slow cooking always tastes better than a fast pan fried grill it up already situation...right!

Bring someone in than work Desmond in June or something. They’ll have option in trades. Guzman with 1/2 a yr’s commitment in salary or whoever they’ve got at 2nd or SS…This is the way to go.

As Capt.Picard would say " Make it so, number one"
and as Rodney Dangerfield said" (Look out for number one) But don’t step in number two"

by Berndaddy on Dec 10, 2009 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

my preference

is to let Desmond run with SS from day one. he’s not really a kid anymore, he’s 24 and has six years in the minors under him. if he isn’t ready to be playing by now, a couple more months in triple-a ain’t gonna help.

the Nats have a built-in emergency SS on the roster already: his name is Cristian Guzman. if Desmond starts off 2-for-45, send him down, slide Guz over and whoever they bring in for utility to 2b. it’s not like they are contending this season.

this is what lousy teams have the luxury of doing: turning positions over to almost-ready players and letting them learn how to be major league players. there is no pressure of contending or the playoffs to bog them down…just go out and play the game the way it got them there.

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by Dave at Nats News Network on Dec 10, 2009 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

this sounds lke the basis for an opinion article

i need to flesh this out a bit.

Your voice of doom and gloom. Read more at natsnewsnetwork.blogspot.com

by Dave at Nats News Network on Dec 10, 2009 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

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