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The Washington Nationals: The Unlucky Lottery, Stephen Strasburg, Scott Boras, Peter Gammons And Nick Johnson.

You'd be surprised how many people who win the lottery come to regret it...when unknown family members surface, or when the coworker who always buys in, but hadn't that week, attempts to claim their share, or in the case of the Washington Nationals, when they receive the #1 overall pick in the MLB Amateur Draft in June of '09 as a result of the taxing 102-loss campaign the team and its fans suffered through in 2008, and end up facing the prospect of not being able to draft the #1 prospect, because unknown sources are already in the papers three months before the draft making outrageous anonymous claims about what the consensus #1 pick, SDSU starter Stephen Strasburg and his agent Scott "Maximum" Boras are going to demand from the league's worst team.

ESPN.com's Peter Gammons and his anonymous "club officials" started the Strasburg brouhaha in an article entitled, "Trade to A's was best thing for Holliday", which had just three lines about Stephen Strasburg and his agent seeking a Daisuke Matsuzaka-like 6-year/$50 million dollar deal from the Nationals, which sent the DC media into such a frenzy that Nationals' Team President Stan Kasten felt the need to address, (in a Washington Post Nationals Journal article by Dave Sheinin entitled, "Kasten on Silly Strasburg Speculation"), what he referred to as the "silly media hype" generated by the original Gammons' article, (though Mr. Kasten refers to no one article in particular.)

The media hype that Mr. Kasten refers to would most likely include the same Washington Post writer, Dave Sheinin's article, "Strasburg Watch: A Monumental Battle Takes Shape", in which Mr. Sheinin speculated that:

"Boras appears to be preparing to use Strasburg, the exceptionally talented San Diego State right-hander, as a way of exploding the "slotting" system with which MLB has tried --mostly unsuccessfully-- to reign in signing bonuses for draftees."

(ed. note - "'Mostly unsuccesfully' = Detroit Tigers' '07 pick (and New Jersey native!) Rick Porcello, who fell to the Tigers 27th overall because of Boras' stated demands and still signed a major league deal at 4-years/$7.285M. Now, is Mr. Boras going to argue, that if the 27th pick got that, the #1 pick is worth two more years and an additional $42+million?)

Stan Kasten told the Washington Post's Mr. Sheinin, or at least implied, as Mr. Sheinin writes in the article entitled, "Kasten On Silly Strasburg Speculation", that, "...the team was not interested in blowing up the established signing bonus framework for anyone," and Mr. Kasten is quoted directly by Mr. Sheinin explaining his position:

"'A hundred years of baseball and four decades of collective bargaining have shown how you develop players and how they proceed through the system,' Kasten said. 'There's a time for drafting, a time for development, a time for arbitration and a time for free agency. No one situation can change the whole sport, even less so these days, with where the economy is now.

"'We're certainly eager and planning to take the best player that we can,' he said, 'and we know what number-one picks get, and we intend to sign our number-one pick.'"

Yahoo! Sports' writer David Brown in an article entitled, "'Silly' Stephen Strasburg: Pitching Prospect, lottery ticket or both", speculates that, "The best Boras and his client could hope for, under the slotting system, is something closer to Mark Prior's $10.5 million in 2001," and now Washington Post writer Thomas Boswell is making the argument, in an article entitled, "Beware of the Pitching Phenom", that:

"Unless his price drops to the same general range as David Price ($8.8-million in 2007) or Mark Prior (a record $10.5-millionin 2001), the Nationals should pick somebody else with their top choice in the draft in three months."

...and Mr. Boswell's argument is pretty convincing, as he lists the pitchers who have gone #1 overall since the inception of the First-Year Player Draft in 1965, and finds, "Nobody --n-o-b-o-d-y-- (who) has used a No. 1 overall pick on a pitcher and been glad they did it." 

(ed. note - "Here's wikipedia's list of MLB #1 picks since 1965...Luke Hochevar #1 overall to Kansas City in '06, or the aforementioned David Price, who went #1 overall to Tampa Bay, may end up proving Mr. Boswell wrong...but then you see names like Kris Benson and Brien Taylor on the list, and you, or I, at least, begin to wonder if Mr. Boswell's got a point?")

• You can ask Nationals' Team President Stan Kasten about all this silliness today (Tues, 3/24) at noon when he takes part in a Live Chat at the Washington Post.com...Click on the following link to Follow Along and Submit Your Questions to Mr. Kasten...

Federal Baseball.com's Coverage of Stephen Strasburg, by sdsuaztec4:

The Strasburg Files - 

Episode 2- Into the Lion's Den.

Episode 3- Conference Play.

Episode 4- The Dreaded BS, ND.

DO NOT TRADE NICK JOHNSON...

But ESPN.com's Peter Gammons is back at it again today, with a note in his article entitled, "Available players, Teahan, Harang, and more", where he simply mentions Nick Johnson in a list of "players being dangled because of roster space and economics". (ed. note - "Cut it out, Gammons. I'm beginning to take this personally...") Johnson was 2 for 3 with 2 RBI's yesterday in DC's loss to the Cardinals. Nick Johnson this Spring, now 8 for 36, .222 AVG in 15 games, 2 2B, 3 HR, 7 RBI's, .364 OBP, .528 SLG.

Tuesday Game Thread: 

Shairon Martis gets the start for DC against the Orioles' Alfredo Simon, who started opposite the young Nationals' starter last Thursday and held Washington to just 1 hit in 4.0 innings on the mound, while Martis gave up 2 hits and 2 runs in 5 innings of a game Washington would eventually win 5-4. Will Adam Dunn be back? Who gets the start behind the plate? Where is Jesus Flores? 

?'s For the DC Faithful?

• What does Shairon Martis have to do the rest of the way in order to win a rotation spot? Or is it already his?

• Who are you picking in the backup catcher race? I'm not sure DC would sign Bard just to challenge Nieves and Valentin for two weeks...

• Willingham or Johnson? Who are you trading? Who will the Nationals deal?

• What's the first thing you're going to buy on Opening Day? Curly-W pretzel? A new cap? BEER!? New #85 Milledge player name and # t-shirt? Anyone else want to get a Dukes #34? (ed. note - "My advice? Hold off on the Willingham shirts...")

• If you're not going to be at Nationals Park on Opening Day in DC on April 13th, where will you be watching/listening/following along?

Not enough Strasburg? Check THIS out...

Who's Listening To The Nationals??

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Yeah, logged on at 12 to find it was over...

If i remember correctly, the Orioles’ home is so far from Viera, that they don’t make everyone go…

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Mar 24, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love Stan's sign-off...

Stan Kasten: I’m afraid that’s all the time they have given me today. Sorry I’m such a slow typist. There were a ton more questions. I tried to get to the things you can’t get everyday talking to the manager or general manager� oops, I mean assistant general manager.

by RoscoeNats on Mar 24, 2009 12:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Stan is the new Slick Willie..

Did he answer any real questions? I didn’t read one. How about y’all?

by Berndaddy on Mar 24, 2009 12:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Tha answer about the tent on the parking deck ticked me off...

Basically, we make money by stealing the view from one group and giving it to another.

by RoscoeNats on Mar 24, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed, but...

the tent doesn’t block the view of the capital for most of the stadium, the stupid garage and the buildings behind it do.

Your voice of doom and gloom. Read more at natsnewsnetwork.blogspot.com

by Dave at District Sports Page on Mar 24, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

See ya at 1:00...

Let’s Go Nats Go!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Mar 24, 2009 12:18 PM EDT reply actions  

re Johnson's 2 rbi double yesterday

he was still late on the fastball, which is why it was a double down the left field (wrong field) line.

i hope it’s just a rusty swing from being out so long, and not the effect of cumulative injury that has Nick behind on every fastball.

Your voice of doom and gloom. Read more at natsnewsnetwork.blogspot.com

by Dave at District Sports Page on Mar 24, 2009 12:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Answers to the questions

1. I think the only reason Martis will not be with the major league club on Opening day is if the Nats want to Longoria him. Which frankly is not a bad idea. Same for Zimm

2. I think all the backup catchers are similar. Bard probably has a slighter better bat and more experience, but his ability to block pitches and his arm are both lousy. So if I was the Nats, I would go with Nieves. He has the best arm of the three and some upside to boot. But maybe Bard has intangibles I do not know. The padres tried to make him a starting catcher a while back, so something is there. But without knowing the extras, I go with Nieves.

3. I hope we trade someone like Kearns, but I doubt he is really tradable unless we take salary. The Nats seem to really want to trade Johnson which can only mean that the owners have a real problem with guys being paid on the DL (hence Hill). Given the choice between Willingham and Johnson, I trade Willingham. Willingham is nearly the same injury risk and does not play gold glove defense. Nick is a better hitter with a better glove. But neither will go for much with the injury histories. Maybe a solid middle man or long reliever for Willingham.

4. As for opening day, I moved to Memphis to get my PhD almost 2 years ago and wont be back for a few years, so I’ll miss this opening day, but I will attempt to see the game on TV. I buy the direct TV baseball package every year and watch most of the Nats games on MASN.

by PhDBrian on Mar 24, 2009 12:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Take Zimm and Martis out of the rotation and replace with...?

Bergmann…? Balester?

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Mar 24, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

We all know how Boras works. If he wants 20 million he’ll ask for 50 million. After all, Manny got 100 million, right? I saw your Nationals preview at Macho Row, great stuff. My Braves preview should be on there tomorrow.

by PWHjort on Mar 24, 2009 12:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Let's beat the O's...

Berna-DINA!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Mar 24, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

DC got a good idea of Boras' act in the Tex dealing this winter...

$50M is ridiculous…getting a link to that interview up soon…

Can’t wait to see Tommy “Jump Street” Hanson vs Zimmermann this season…

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Mar 24, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Check out Brian new post at NFA

He’s got a good breakdown of a possible deal for $50mil

by Berndaddy on Mar 24, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

This lineup of B & C Squad players is not making be feel too confident.

Martis needs to throw another no-hitter (sponsored by Puerto Rico).

by RoscoeNats on Mar 24, 2009 1:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Bernadina's got his fellow Curacaoan's back!!!

Leadoff triple for Bernadina!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Mar 24, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Casto cashes in, RBI single, 1-0 DC!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Mar 24, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holy crap Batman!!!

Does anyone see Casto making the team? It’s getting down to the final cuts here…

by Berndaddy on Mar 24, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wish Casto would make it but I doubt it...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Mar 24, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Marginal players' best plays...

Orr – no idea.

Langerhans – the catch in San Diego

Casto – Fathers Day HR

Nook Logan – that catch in Houston on that idiotic hill in center field

Bergmann – dueling no-hitters with Smoltz

Who else??? Those are all that stuck in my head.

by RoscoeNats on Mar 24, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uhhhh that stupid a$$ hill, So glad Nationals Park is gimmick free as far as the field....

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Mar 24, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seattle aka Montreal/DC west...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Mar 24, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know what you mean. The first homegrown prospect..

The guy can field, he just hasn’t been able to hit MLB pitching, but is a monster AAA guy. A true AAAA man, eh.

by Berndaddy on Mar 24, 2009 1:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Martis is rolling...and now they're talking up Strasburg...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Mar 24, 2009 1:34 PM EDT reply actions  

The way these pitchers are rolling, it's going to be a quick one...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Mar 24, 2009 1:44 PM EDT reply actions  

A diving Bernadina gets to the third out of the 3rd. Still 1-0 DC.

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Mar 24, 2009 1:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Hope Lasto's there watching a natural CF...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Mar 24, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

WMP fooled by a fastball...have a nice summer somewhere else, Wily.

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Mar 24, 2009 1:51 PM EDT reply actions  

He'd be the highest payed Double-A player ever...

…hyperbole of course…

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Mar 24, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

4 scoreless for Martis, still 1-0 DC.

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Mar 24, 2009 2:09 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm just going to stop listing opposing team's pitchers...

Alfredo Simon on for I’s in 5th…

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Mar 24, 2009 2:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Made it through 6 scoreless. 3 hits, 4 strikeouts, 1 walk.

Welcome to the rotation…You just pitched 20% longer than anybody last season.

by RoscoeNats on Mar 24, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1 Welcome to the rotation...Mr. Martis!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Mar 24, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe that is referred to as a...

Quality start? I think…not too familiar…

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Mar 24, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Had to step away, who scored the 2nd run?

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Mar 24, 2009 2:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Triple-A Syracuse is going to be awesome...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Mar 24, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Think Desmond went to Double-A though...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Mar 24, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't let people hear you say that, we're supposed to stink...

…just play along til DC shocks the world!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Mar 24, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

C'mon now BergMANN!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Mar 24, 2009 3:11 PM EDT reply actions  

4 pitch K to start for Bergie...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Mar 24, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Quick frame from Jason "Built for the Bullpen" Bergmann!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Mar 24, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

He can teach the NL lessons all summer...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Mar 24, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thoughts about Mock?

Syracuse?

Bergmann has embraced the pen. I believe Mock still thinks he’s just a starter who comes out of the pen until his spot opens up in the rotation..

by RoscoeNats on Mar 24, 2009 3:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Mock was in my projected bullpen before ST...

…don’t think he’s earned it though…might be closing somewhere in the system…

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Mar 24, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Finish strong, Wagner.

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Mar 24, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Did you read Ladson article about bullpen?

Wondering what he said…

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Mar 24, 2009 3:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Didn't read it yet...have to get back to you when I do...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Mar 24, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nats beat O's!!!

Tomorrow night on MASN vs Braves…

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Mar 24, 2009 3:28 PM EDT reply actions  

I mean Nationals beat O's...

I hate Nats…

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Mar 24, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dunn back tomorrow night??

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Mar 24, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where are the regular starters?

Just wondering why I’m not seeing Zimmerman, Dukes, Milledge and other likely regular-season starters in the line-up more often in these spring-training games. Are these guys injured? Or are they just resting them up? Zimmerman usually gets off to slow starts each year so I would think it would be better for him to see more action in the spring.

by Potomac Fan on Mar 24, 2009 5:44 PM EDT reply actions  

If I remember correctly, the trip to Baltimore is the longest they make, so the vets don't go...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Mar 24, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

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