Spring Training: Game 6 Game Thread: The Washington Nationals vs Italy And Mike Piazza.
(ed. note - "SINGLE GAME TICKETS GO ON SALE AT 9:00AM TODAY, 3/3/09!!!!" INCLUDING OPENING DAY IN DC!!")
Washington Nationals In The WBC...?
The good news about Saul Rivera, Joel Hanrahan and Adam Dunn participating in the World Baseball Classic is that it gives Nationals' fans a reason to follow the WBC alongside Spring Training and see what Washington's players can do against (what is arguably) the world's best competition...but the bad news, for anyone who watched Luis Ayala blow out his elbow in the Inaugural WBC, is that Rivera, Hanrahan and Dunn, three pretty important parts of the '09 Nationals' roster will be throwing, and in Dunn's case striki facing competitive pitches early in the Spring...
MLB.com's Bill Ladson wrote yesterday, in an article entitled, "Hanrahan headed to classic", that Nationals' Hitting Coach Rick Eckstein recommended Hanrahan for his spot on the USA roster when Blue Jay's closer B.J. Ryan bowed out, and Mr. Ladson writes that it was a tough decision for the DC closer:
"But after having conversations with manager Manny Acta and pitching coach Randy St. Claire, Hanrahan decided to go for it."
Adam Dunn too made his own decision to join the southern north american entry in the tournament (as opposed to Pinch Hittin' Pete Orr's northern, north american entry) after having spoken to Mr Acta, and Dunn told Washington Post writer Chico Harlan, as quoted in a Nationals Journal post entitled, "Dunn To Participate In WBC", that Acta was "ecstatic" about the idea, while Dunn said he thought he'd shown the Nationals all they needed to see of his play in the field, or in his own words, as quoted by Mr. Harlan:
"I think I've played everywhere they want me to play," Dunn said. "Hopefully. If they don't want me playing catcher or something."
(ed. note - "And Now, An Unneccesary Attack On Adam Dunn:
That's two positions that Dunn's now said he knows he won't be playing. Just the other day he told an MLB Network announcer, when asked where he thought he'd play this season, "I have no idea, I know I won’t be playing third...” C'mon, he's just recycling material in interviews? Already? What's next? When will Dunn say, "I know they don't want me to pitch?"...that gag's got whiskers on it, Dunn.")
...Manny Acta, (who was a coach with the Expos and Mets, but never managed above low-A ball before managing the Dominican entry in the Inaugural WBC), must have enjoyed his experience managing on the international stage if he's recommending all his players participate, and since he was hired by the Nationals less than a year after the first WBC, he probably understands that it's becoming a proving ground for talent on all levels of the game, before a worldwide audience, (that seems to care a lot more than US fans about winning the true world series...)
Shairon Martis, Roger Bernadina and Daniel Cabrera all declined invitations to compete in the WBC for their respetive homelands, believing it was more important to be at Spring Training...
Speaking of The WBC, Is That Mike PIazza?
Mike Piazza? That's right, Mike Piazza and the Italian entry he's helping coach in the WBC, who'll be taking on the Nationals this afternoon in Space Coast, with John "Cool Hand" Lannan on the mound against Italy in his second start of the Spring after Lannan threw two scoreless in the opener against the Astros last Wednesday.
Piazza talked to New York Times' writer Joshua Robinson about his work with the Italian team for an article this weekend entitled, "In Italy's Dugout, Piazza Embraces A New Role", in which the Italian roster was described by Mr. Robinson as, "A work in progress at their best and hapless at their worst," but what matters, according to Mr. Piazza, is that, "We'll have the best food of anyone at the classic." (ed. note - "Good one, Piazza!")
Day One Of The Kasten Regime...
My first question here is whether Nationals' Team President Stan Kasten taking over as the interim GM role eliminates Asst. GM Mike Rizzo from contention for the General Manager's job?...since the "speculation" last week had been that Rizzo could immediately take over as interim general manager should a replacement become necessary, but Mr. Kasten warns against just such speculation when asked by MLB.com's Bill Ladson, in Mr. Ladson's, "Q&A with Stan Kasten", how the search for a new GM in DC compared to that which Mr. Kasten conducted during his tenure as the Braves' President, with Mr. Kasten replying:
"It was a very different set of circumstances then. But that process took several months. I can tell you there was much speculation then and much criticism of me for taking as long as I took. There were dozens and dozens of names written during that time. None of them turned out to be accurate, and that's why I caution writers and readers to be wary of anything they hear until they have some news to report."
Mr. Kasten also mentioned something that seemed aimed at pleasing a certain segment of the DC Faithful who are advocating a new age of player analysis when he mentioned the existence, in the Nationals' front office, of what he refers to in Mr. Ladson's article as DC's, "Mod Squad", which he describes as, "...the little guys who work diligently on sabermetrics, expenses, waivers, and rules," who are working along with Dana Brown, Mike Rizzo, and Bob Boone to assure that the Nationals, in Mr. Kasten's choice of metaphor, "Don't miss a beat."
But the biggest question to come out of the Q&A, in my opinion, has to do with Mr. Kasten's assertion that he's not only involved in the negotiations on a long term deal with Ryan Zimmerman, but, "As far as trades go," Mr. Ladson's quotes Mr. Kasten saying, "...things like that - I myself have talked trades with teams yesterday?"
Who did Stan Kasten talk to? Who wants to trade with the Washington Nationals?
?'s For The DC Faithful...
Would the Nationals just have given Mike Rizzo the interim title if he was destined to take over as GM?
Why do the Nationals, and Mr. Kasten in particular today keep warning readers and writers about reports that make their way into print? Is the "speculation" having some unintended (or intended) effect?
Is it wrong to call the statisticians or folks "working diligently on sabermetrics", "little guys"?
Do you want to see the new Screech Dance? (ed. note - Uh? Thanks, uh, for that, NationalsPride.com?")
(ed. note - "Looks like the Nationals v Italy game will not be broadcast on XM...if anyone's following on MLB.com or GameDay Audio...box scores?...feel free to check in with reports...")
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Injury update
Ladson reports that Flores is out for a few days with a strained shoulder. Kearns still has a blister on his hand, and Jorge Sosa is still having visa problems.
"Baseball is the only major sport that appears backwards in a mirror." George Carlin.
by RoscoeNats on Mar 3, 2009 11:02 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
No Flores, NO!!!!
Sosa had better be working out on is own, or he’ll be WAY behind…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Mar 3, 2009 5:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What?!
Why in the hell does Kearns have a blister on his hand? He needs to lay off of the moisturizer! C’mon man! Cowboy the hell up! Jeebus!
" (Stewie) Wait a minute. Germany is building WMD's? Then, why doesn't America go in there and kick their a$$e$? (Brian) I don't know. Maybe it's because they don't have any oil? (Stewie) Ohhhhhhh. Clap, clap, clap, clap, claaaaap. "
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Mar 3, 2009 7:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jorge Pasada has sage advice about "toughening" the hands up...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Mar 3, 2009 9:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nats Game Today...
Here’s the best I can tell so far.
No score after 2 1/2 innings.
Lannan went 3 and gave up one hit and one walk.
Zimm and Bernadina have singles.
Milledge hosed an Italian at home. (That sounds weird on two levels at least.)
The updates are very slow. Will post more in a bit if nobody else does.
"Baseball is the only major sport that appears backwards in a mirror." George Carlin.
by RoscoeNats on Mar 3, 2009 1:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Here's the link to the box score...
Zimm and Dukes each hit triples. Dukes and Nieves each hit doubles. Nice.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/boxscore.jsp?gid=2009_03_03_itaint_wasmlb_1&refresh=30
"Baseball is the only major sport that appears backwards in a mirror." George Carlin.
by RoscoeNats on Mar 3, 2009 2:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
OMG...... HBP: Johnson (by Barzilla).
Box score shows no more ABs for Nick, but no replacement and Bernadina
switching OF positions.
Please let this not be a mafia hit………..
by cat daddy3000 on Mar 3, 2009 2:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I exult in SooperDooks!
Dinger, triple, run scored… Lasto gets an assist at the plate?!
And I despair for NJ… please don’t be broken, please don’t be broken…
And (of course), Bernadina caught stealing…
(6-2 Nats through 7)
"We’re all neighbors in NatsTown™!" --NNN
by Doghouse on Mar 3, 2009 3:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, stuff like this puts Blister Boy on the bubble...... and someplace far away
And this is how I like to score ’em…
2-out RBI: Milledge; Zimmerman, R; Dukes 2.
by cat daddy3000 on Mar 3, 2009 3:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That IS a refreshing change, isn't it?
"We’re all neighbors in NatsTown™!" --NNN
by Doghouse on Mar 3, 2009 3:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yessir........ I would really appreciate a season where.....
I don’t look ahead in the lineup and see a K-guy or GIDP man if the slim chance of getting a runner on just accidentally happens…..
by cat daddy3000 on Mar 3, 2009 3:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Poor Kearnsie...
How much of the $8M will DC have to pay for someone to take him?
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Mar 3, 2009 5:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I figure five or six million. Just probably ain't gonna happen.
"Baseball is the only major sport that appears backwards in a mirror." George Carlin.
by RoscoeNats on Mar 3, 2009 6:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I contribute a couple hundred to the cause this morning...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Mar 3, 2009 7:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Batting: N. Johnson (ITA) ??? Is this now a kidnapping???
Piazza’s a pimp. He never could’ve out-fought Santino. But I didn’t know until this day that it was Barzilla all along…….
[Okay, they finally updated and Nick was 0-2 with a run and a K]
by cat daddy3000 on Mar 3, 2009 3:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
And, Martis goes 3 innings
…with 2 hits, a walk, and 2 Ks, 0.00 ERA
by cat daddy3000 on Mar 3, 2009 3:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well played, Martis!! Fight for the five spot!!!
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Mar 3, 2009 5:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And Estrada and Ledezma almost gave it away.
A win is a win. More positives than negatives even though it’s not a major league team.
"Baseball is the only major sport that appears backwards in a mirror." George Carlin.
by RoscoeNats on Mar 3, 2009 3:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'm still in the top of the 8th........
I’m so looking forward to minor league camp opening, so some of these guys can go pitch against players they’re likely to see for the rest of the season….
by cat daddy3000 on Mar 3, 2009 3:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Woops...
What can I do to erase the jinx I just set free? I guess it’s spring training for me too.
"Baseball is the only major sport that appears backwards in a mirror." George Carlin.
by RoscoeNats on Mar 3, 2009 3:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You mean it's not over?
I made a comment on the Nats’ newsgroup about not remembering Mr. Val Pascucci sucking so bad as an Expo, and there are strict rules over there about jinxing.
I’ll have to lose a thumb over that little mistake…….
by cat daddy3000 on Mar 3, 2009 3:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I suggest invoking, say.......... Roger Bernadina...
See, he saved your thumb…
by cat daddy3000 on Mar 3, 2009 4:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bernadina with the walkoff dinger?
Anything can happen in this crazy game!
"We’re all neighbors in NatsTown™!" --NNN
by Doghouse on Mar 3, 2009 4:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it was against some guy named Cody Cillo...
I’m just hoping Kearns is being a good sport about it……
by cat daddy3000 on Mar 3, 2009 4:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kearns is kicked back with his blister all bandaged up...knowing he'll make 8 million dollars this year.
…Something Ladson wrote today said Dukes was giving Bernadina tips to hit more for power. I guess he learned quick.
"Baseball is the only major sport that appears backwards in a mirror." George Carlin.
by RoscoeNats on Mar 3, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I read the headline about Dukes giving advice.....
I’d be happy if he could just up his BA to go with his glove. Then, they might have a real CF sooner than later….
by cat daddy3000 on Mar 3, 2009 4:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And I'm sure Kearns is all broken up about cashing his check for nothing.
Don’t play hurt, Little Donkey…
by cat daddy3000 on Mar 3, 2009 4:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dukes taught Bernadina how to hit those...more on this later...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Mar 3, 2009 5:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the game info, everyone, I was stuck catching up at work after the BLIZZARD!!
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Mar 3, 2009 5:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Ed's Adam Dunn update...
I was watching the local news and your boy went 0-4 with three strikeouts. I saw the ball he put in play, slow bouncer to short with a lot of spin and the SS booted it.
I had to mention it.
"Baseball is the only major sport that appears backwards in a mirror." George Carlin.
by RoscoeNats on Mar 3, 2009 8:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Plus, he's on Lettermen tonight...
…he and 9 other guys from the WBC Team USA are reading tonight’s top 10 list.
"We’re all neighbors in NatsTown™!" --NNN
by Doghouse on Mar 3, 2009 8:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That ought to not sound scripted.
" (Stewie) Wait a minute. Germany is building WMD's? Then, why doesn't America go in there and kick their a$$e$? (Brian) I don't know. Maybe it's because they don't have any oil? (Stewie) Ohhhhhhh. Clap, clap, clap, clap, claaaaap. "
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Mar 3, 2009 8:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, I'm sure it'll seem quite spontaneous.
"We’re all neighbors in NatsTown™!" --NNN
by Doghouse on Mar 3, 2009 8:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Is that tonight?
I’ve seen Twitterers saying it was Thursday…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Mar 3, 2009 9:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, you're right--it's Thursday.
According to some press release that got randomly emailed to me (and that I promptly misread), the presenters will be:
Derek Jeter from the New York Yankees; David Wright from the New York Mets; Chipper Jones from the Atlanta Braves; Ryan Braun from the Milwaukee Brewers; Jimmy Rollins from the Philadelphia Phillies; Dustin Pedroia and Kevin Youkilis from the Boston Red Sox; Curtis Granderson from the Detroit Tigers; Roy Oswalt from the Houston Astros; and Adam Dunn from the Washington Nationals
I assume Dunn is #1, of course. Place of pride for the Nats’ new bopper.
"We’re all neighbors in NatsTown™!" --NNN
by Doghouse on Mar 3, 2009 9:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Headline you thought you'd never read...
Twitterers Prevail Over Skimming Doghouse!
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Mar 3, 2009 10:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure about 'prevail'?
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Mar 3, 2009 10:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What about Hanrahan?
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Mar 3, 2009 9:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's how you...
“GET’R’DUNN”
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Mar 3, 2009 9:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, no GM talk today...MLBTR posted this nugget this morning...
Lots of names not spelled Rizzo on the list. I saw an article about Tan-Stan’s negotiations with Zimm’s agent that said previously Bowden and Rizzo were the negotiators. I wonder if the team wants a clean split and all new negotiators. If Rizzo gets lumped with Bowden, it could be a bad thing for his climb up the ladder in Nats Town.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/03/nationals-gm-ca.html
"Baseball is the only major sport that appears backwards in a mirror." George Carlin.
by RoscoeNats on Mar 3, 2009 7:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Who started "Tan-Stan"?
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Mar 3, 2009 9:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Is our President/GM a former Soviet republic?
Man, that dude can multitask. Still, it’s encouraging to hear he’s trying to get a real contract with Zimmy by Opening Day. Heck, let’s make multitasking the order of the day. Dukes has already shown his mad skilz as RF/Hitting Coach. TAWH is inspiring the entirety of Nats Nation to acts of bold Renaissance Mannery!
"We’re all neighbors in NatsTown™!" --NNN
by Doghouse on Mar 3, 2009 10:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
First line of tonight's post...(which i'm just finishing)...
“Don’t think for a second that Stan Kasten couldn’t do this all himself if he wanted to…”
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Mar 3, 2009 10:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I sort of nominated Tan-Stan after seeing your post that included all the nicknames
"Baseball is the only major sport that appears backwards in a mirror." George Carlin.
by RoscoeNats on Mar 3, 2009 10:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A welcome addition to the list...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Mar 3, 2009 10:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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