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Pardon The Blunt Assessment: Tony Kornheiser On The Washington Nationals.

Never one to hold back when asked his opinion, Tony Kornheiser let loose on the Washington Nationals in a "Talking Points" video interview with the Washington Post which was conducted while the Nationals played their home opener with the Philadelphia Phillies yesterday. The "high"-lights:

Tony Kornheiser on your Washington Nationals:

- "They're terrible, now they were losing when we went up to do PTI, they may have won by now, but they stink..."

- "They had a terrible clown of General Manager for the past four years, now they fired him...No, he was terrible, it's not that I didn't like him, he was terrible...and they've gotten progressively worse as a team under his auspices...They finally fired him because of a scandal(1), which they thought was a kickback scandal, right? With this guy who had the wrong age...?

- "Now, their leader is Stan Kasten...Everybody loves Stan Kasten like everybody loves Jim Bowden...Why? Because if you call him he'll call you back, he'll come to your house, he'll tell you all about the team...and in Kasten's case they'll say well look what he did in Atlanta? Well that was in Atlanta, what is he doing here?

- "...If you look at the standings today...there were no other teams that were 0 for the season, except the Washington Nationals...They didn't sell out their home opener,(2) at least they didn't 24 hours before the home opener...and they're certainly not going to sell out their game tomorrow afternoon or tomorrow evening..."

- "At the moment baseball in Washington is a disaster. At the moment It looks like the stadium was built in the wrong place...which some of us thought to begin with..."(3)

- "The team is dreadful, the attendance is average, it's sort of an average attendance, ...it's not going to get better this year, because there's not a lot money out there this year..."(4)

- "And you say, well 'Why didn't they support a team, they didn't have a team for 40 years...?' Well you know what happens in 40 years, you learn to live without a team..."

- "I heard Kasten on the radio today saying that building a baseball team takes a very long time...and i grant you it, if you're not the Yankees, it does take a very long time, but this is year five and they've made no progress, so what is a long time? Is it 40 years, is it 40 'til they contend, is it ten, is it twelve, is it at six? 

- "Are they gonna fire Manny Acta?(5)...What's he doing right? I'm not advocating that, I don't know the guy..."

- "How are you going to sell this team to Washington...is this you're marketing, 'We haven't had a team in 40 years so it's ok that we stink?'"

- "You can market a stinking team in Chicago or Boston cause you've built up a fanbase over a hundred years...There is no fanbase here." 

- "This notion that we've got a new ballpark and we've got a new team and everybody has to support it...Why?"

Notes:

(1) - The scandal, also known as SMILEYGATE, didn't directly lead to The Former Nationals' GM's firing...but ok...I get the point of what Mr. Kornheiser's saying.

(2) - Acc. to MLB.com's box score from yesterday's game, the official attendance at the DC Home Opener was 40,386...Nationals Park's capacity = 41,488. Is that close enough to get called a "sell-out"?

(3) - A Washington Post article entitled by Dana Hedgpeth and David Nakamura entitled, "At Nationals Park, District of Dreams Hits A Slump" is referenced here...(ed. note - "You'll need an account with the Washington Post to read this article, but it's free to set one up...so just do it...")

(4) - Acc. to ESPN.com's 2009 attendance totals: (Of the team's that played their home openers yesterday, Capacity #'s from Google)....

  1. Los Angeles Dodgers - 57, 099. (capacity - 56,000)
  2. New York Mets - 41,007. (capacity - 45,000)
  3. Washington Nationals - 40, 386. (capacity - 41,488)
  4. Chicago Cubs - 40, 077. (capacity - 41,118)
  5. Pittsburgh Pirates - 38, 411. (capacity - 38,496)
  6. Tampa Bay Rays - 36, 973. (capacity - 36,973)
(5) - Manny Acta shared his thoughts on his own job security with Washington Post writer Chico Harlan for a Nationals Journal post this morning entitled, "Morning Reading".

(ed. note - "Mr. Kornheiser isn't saying anything that hasn't been said on every Washington Nationals blog and by every writer covering the team, but it's also hard to argue with anything he's saying...not living in DC myself, I can't speak to the whole real estate situation around Nationals Park, I just simply don't know the history of the region, or what was promised when they originally planned the park and surrounding area...but it doesn't look like an awful lot has changed since I first came to the park on Opening Night last March...is it naive of me to think the area should have built up around the park by now? Mr. Kornheiser doesn't mention what Mr. Kasten and "Acting" GM Mike Rizzo have done to rebuild the system, granted he's only talking about the Nationals and their relation to DC, but to be fair to the Nationals, having been an Expos' fan, I am more excited about the players coming out of the system now than I've been since Javier Vazquez and Tony Armas first surfaced with Montreal...What do you think? If you're reading this, aren't you a part of a "fanbase"? Are you surprised that the Nationals have not been accepted by the fans in the nation's capital? I don't think the blame can be placed solely on Manny Acta, and I think it would be a HUGE mistake to fire him...Is another Manager going to turn this team into a contender? Acta's decisions have come under some scrutiny recently...How would you assess his tenure thus far? I asked this question yesterday and I'll ask it again...")

Is baseball 0-3 in Washington, DC?

 

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Kornheiser made some valid points...

As far as a fanbase goes, he’s right. Look at when the Cubs and Red Sox totally sucked, they still drew plenty of fans because they had a hundred or more years of history…grandfathers loved the team and passed it down. This team came to DC and has pretty much sucked (and gotten steadily worse) since they got here.

The stadium location in my opinion was very political. The city picked a spot where they weren’t getting much tax revenue and demolished it so they could try and generate some income.

If you could build a bar or restaurant, would you build it in a place where you would have business one day out of every 4.5 days in a year including no business from October 1 to April 1? The Verizon Center has hockey, concerts, pro and college basketball, conventions, plus it’s in the middle of a city and on all 5 metro lines so it’s easy to get to.

Manny is trying the zen approach to baseball. That may work in hoops where you only have to get 5 or 6 guys to buy in. Somebody needs to go in there and start crackin’ skulls. I see one big whiny baby on the team and I think he has options. Put his a$$ on a bus, and let him remember what it’s like to earn his way to the big leagues.

Question…did Manny pick his coaches? Including Riggleman? There’s a lot of talent on this team…and it needs to come out. How can pitchers be this much worse than last year?

by RoscoeNats on Apr 14, 2009 3:11 PM EDT reply actions  

The pitchers are worse because they are not the same guys

and the season is brand new. Frankly Chico was worse than most of this years guys last season. Everyone knows Lannan now, so he needs to adjust. Its unlikely and noone projected Lannan to have an era as good as last season simply because he has faced most hitters a few times now, and they should figure him out a bit. We do not have Perez or any old veterans who know how to pitch. We just have a bunch of youngters and a retread. We will get ok work out of Olson in the end.

"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James

by PhDBrian on Apr 14, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Development

I guess since this is only the second year of the new stadium there should be a little slack given towards how little development has gone on around the site, plus with the current economic climate people aren’t exactly rushing to move into luxury condos. But by next year I think it’s reasonable to expect more restaurants and shops than they have now.

As for Acta, I think he’s a terrific manager, but I’m also resigned to the fact that he’s probably going to make his name elsewhere.

Now writing for Ridiculous Upside, where we knew who Mike Taylor was before you did.

by Jon L on Apr 14, 2009 4:06 PM EDT reply actions  

As for the team

I love baseball at any time, but I am a die hard Nats fan thanks to 2005. I thought that team was so fun to watch. Great chemistry. We really exceeded expectations that year! Since then its been tougher as my favorite players have been hurt or traded off. But, I believe we have a ton of solid arms that just need a few years in the minors to get better and we will be a contender.

Give us a year or two deep in the playoffs and this will be a large market team in revenue and payroll. I am sure of it!

you have to remember we inherited a gutted team and minor league system, that remained gutted until the owners bot the team. We have not yet recovered from that, but we are definitely on the way.

"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James

by PhDBrian on Apr 14, 2009 4:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Perhaps Tony (Long Island boy) should stick to berating the Mets with the same zeal that he berates the Nationals

As far as the area surrounding the ballpark, it’s been stated time and time again that the area known as Half Street wouldn’t be up and running till the end of 2010. So, that gives them basically 19 months to have that area flourishing. If the Nats were 7-0 that area still would be in the condition it is today because of the economy. They’re telling us that if the Nats were playoff contenders everyone would be sprinting to put money into buying up office space and renting condos? Right! So everyone blaming that area on the play of the Nationals needs to shut the hell up.

I’m so sick and tired of this instant gratification society. The Nationals are averaging just under 5 runs a game. Yep, doesn’t sound like much, but that’s 17th in all of MLB and they are right behind the METS. Considering what the METS should be doing with their payroll, I wouldn’t consider this too darn bad.

I’ve seen the majority of about 5 Nats games so far and there’s nothing at all wrong with their ability to score runs. It’s obvious as a wart on the nose that they need pitching and to shore up their defensive skills. Manny Acta can’t play for them and I’ve seen NOTHING he’s done to make them worse. Give ACTA some pitching and watch the accolades begin to trickle in.

Tony K. Don’t be such a downer!

" WHEN'S THE LAST TIME YOU'VE WITNESSED A GRAND HANDSHAKE PARADE? "

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Apr 14, 2009 4:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Tony K gets paid to be a downer

But agree with you!

"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James

by PhDBrian on Apr 14, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Been walking around DC for 3 days now, and I can support your claim, there are a lot of curly-W caps...

…but on the Metro ride home yesterday, (while I was unknowingly erasing $18.00 off my card by putting it near my cellphone(WTF?)), I was getting lectured by 2 or 3 DC residents about what is wrong with the Nationals, and the one word I heard over and over again…Bowden.

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Apr 14, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

BOWDEN!!!

"We’re all neighbors in NatsTown™!" --NNN

by Doghouse on Apr 14, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

or

FENTY!!!

" WHEN'S THE LAST TIME YOU'VE WITNESSED A GRAND HANDSHAKE PARADE? "

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Apr 14, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

He may not have wanted baseball in DC, but I don't think we can blame the Bonifacio trade on him...

…although maybe the DomRep irregularities—DC isn’t exactly an exemplar of clean governance.

"We’re all neighbors in NatsTown™!" --NNN

by Doghouse on Apr 14, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clean governance is an oxymoron

" WHEN'S THE LAST TIME YOU'VE WITNESSED A GRAND HANDSHAKE PARADE? "

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Apr 14, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dr. Gridlock (Washington Post's foremost authority on everything related to transit)

Can probably answer that.

" WHEN'S THE LAST TIME YOU'VE WITNESSED A GRAND HANDSHAKE PARADE? "

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Apr 14, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does KornHoser...

—-Preface Every Answer With, “I Don’t Really Know Anything About The Nationals.” Or Is That Just Understood. He’s A Janquis Fan To The Core. I’d Be Surprised If He’s Even Seen A Handfull Of Nationals’ Games. Attendance Seemed Surprisingly Good To Me…Unless The Numbers Were Fudged…You Were There E., What Say You. I Was More Surprised That The Cubbies Didn’t Sell Out…And The Metsies: In Their Beautifull New Park…Disgracefull !!!
    Underdeveloped Area Around The BallPark…? Sounds Like The Perfect Spot For The Headquarters Of FederalBaseball. Scout It Out, E…

     I Think The Fans Base Will Have To Wait A Couple Years More To Contend In This Division. As For The Organization’s Direction. It Seems Like Two Steps Forward, One Back. Drafting And Signing Strasburg (Not Necessarily InThat Order, winkwink…) Would Go A Long Way Toward Convincing Fans That The Nationals Are Serious About Winning…
     Big PTI Fan From The Beginning, Love Kornheiser’s Work On That Show And In Print Media…WillBunny’s Funnier, Though…
Fish Up 3-0 Early On Vazquez…Still Want Him Back…?

The Two Minutes Hate Begins......NOW !!!

by Winston Smith on Apr 14, 2009 8:05 PM EDT reply actions  

The Fish scare me.

Seriously. Where the hell did they get all of that pitching?

" WHEN'S THE LAST TIME YOU'VE WITNESSED A GRAND HANDSHAKE PARADE? "

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Apr 14, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

What say I...(meekly)...it looked like a sell-out...

…that being said, during last year’s home opener, half the crowd left in the 5th…like it’s Mannywood and people just wanted to be seen there, show up late and leave early, and yesterday, the masses were apathetic at best, angrily crowing about Daniel Cabrera at worst, (ooh, maybe I shouldn’t say “Crow-ing”…)…

Federal Baseball already has a bunker…located far below the earth’s surface to keep us safe from Big Walky when we constantly mock him…

Vazquez? I’ll take Zimmermann and Strasburg over him, looking forward to September…

1- Strasburg
2- Zimmermann
3- Lannan
4- Olsen
5 – Martis, Balester, ???

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Apr 14, 2009 8:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey, I think "Big Walky" is practically a term of endearment.

Granted, “Big Wilky” was not really intended in that vein… but he’s turning it around for me, in spite of his atrocious fielding. Of course, first slump and I’ll be back to snarking.

"We’re all neighbors in NatsTown™!" --NNN

by Doghouse on Apr 14, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you heard someone berating Cabrera

when it was Taveras actually pitching…Ahem, that would have been me. Some mom two rows in front of me (with her scorecard) corrected me.

Annebriated state I was.

" WHEN'S THE LAST TIME YOU'VE WITNESSED A GRAND HANDSHAKE PARADE? "

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Apr 14, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stupid mom with her fancy scorecard...(laughs)...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Apr 14, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

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