The Nats don't need to be have-nots
According to Forbes Magazine, Ted Lerner is the wealthiest owner in the entire major leagues! He is the 191st wealthiest person... in the entire world, with $3.2 billion. So it's not like Lerner is short on cash. But you wouldn't know this from watching the on-field product at Nationals Park.
The organization's plan for 2009 has failed miserably. We have a starting rotation that consists of four rookies and a 2nd-year player. The previous GM brought in two supposed veterans to shore up the rotation but Scott Olsen is not that old himself and Daniel Cabrera apparently hasn't learned basic mechanics that most pitchers learn in Little League. Hardly the ideal pair of wise old veterans to guide a young pitching staff along. Cabrera may never pitch in the major leagues again after being designated for assignment by the Nats and Olsen has been very inconsistent this year.
There is absolutely no excuse for Lerner to be taking this extreme small-market approach with the Nats. He did allow former GM Bowden to pursue Teixeira this offseason but given the sorry state of the team, there was really no way Teixeira would have picked the Nats over the Yankees (or the Red Sox). There was all this talk about "The Plan", to follow the old Atlanta Braves strategy of developing young pitchers and then supplementing the team later on with a few key free agents. Well, why couldn't they at least sign some crafty experienced veterans to help the young guys? (By veterans, I don't mean a bunch of washed-up starting pitchers and relievers that no other team would sign.) Why do fans (those of us who are still around) have to put up with what looks to be consecutive 100-loss seasons?
Ted Lerner has plenty of money, almost three times as much as George Steinbrenner. The Washington, DC area is one of the most affluent metropolitan areas in the country. This is not some podunk borderline minor-league city we're talking about here. This is the capital of the free world and a leading economic center. The NFL's Washington Redskins have long been big spenders (although that money hasn't been spent very wisely) and the Washington Capitals of the NHL were very successful this past season. (The Wizards were a playoff team until most of their starters got injured for the majority of the past season.) Why are the Nats acting like they are stuck in the middle of a barren field with no people or money for miles around? They have pretty much killed off most of the excitement of 2005 when real baseball in Washington was such a novelty. Well, let me rephrase that. Some might say that we still don't have "real" baseball in Washington.
I won't be that negative and say that the entire team is a joke because we do have some quality younger players. The problem is that most of the pitchers have been rushed up far quicker than they would have been with almost any other organization. And there is far too much talk about "potential" and "the future" when analyzing the Nats. This is not a farm team. This is a major league team. Major league teams are supposed to be built to win, not develop players that "could" be stars in 3 years.
While it's true that the commissioner's office dug a deep hole for the franchise when they ran the team in the early 2000s, it has now been long enough that we should be seeing signs of progress. The offense has improved tremendously but the pitching, especially the bullpen, has been an outright disaster. And it's not like the situation was the result of a rash of key injuries. The problems were brought on by extremely poor planning and roster development. How could the team not know about Daniel Cabrera's fragile psyche and lack of proper pitching mechanics? He pitched for 5 years just up I-95. The team couldn't afford to send up a scout there once in a while to watch him? Or at least read the Baltimore Sun or even the Washington Post (which covers the Orioles to some extent)? The bullpen was loaded with inexperienced players at the start of the season. The team lost key pieces in Chad Cordero and Jon Rauch and yet did very little to build up a new quality bullpen.
Some of these decisions lie at the feet of former GM Jim Bowden. But to be fair to him, he was usually operating under very severe budgetary restrictions. That's why he was always looking for diamonds in the rough and specials in the bargain-basement bins. Why? Why is an owner with the astounding wealth of Ted Lerner forcing his GM to be looking for Blue Light Specials year in and year out? The market value of the team has dropped precipitously from the $450 million purchase price in 2006 to $156 million today. The television audience is embarrassingly low for a minor league team let alone a major league team in the nation's capital.
While I'm not asking Lerner to follow the lead of Dan Snyder or George Steinbrenner and start throwing money around on name players no matter their age or state of decline, the Nats can and should try to trade for some mid-level veterans to plug in a few holes. Centerfield has been a big problem this year. Even the team understands that neither Elijah Dukes nor Lasting Milledge are natural CFs. The only real CF we've had this year was Justin Maxwell but he's not quite ready to take over the position. Catcher is another problem if Jesus Flores continues to get injured. Maybe Flores should be transitioned to 1B to take over if and when Nick Johnson leaves the team (this year or this offseason). Flores has a great bat but he gets too beat up behind the plate. This would solve the long-term 1B situation although it would open up a new hole at catcher.
Then there's the bullpen. Maybe Hanrahan develops into a quality closer, maybe he doesn't. Maybe we'll have more than 1 or 2 guys who can actually throw strikes and get people out. But until then, it might help to find another decent reliever who isn't necessarily a star but is a cut above players like Logan Kensing.
As Rob Dibble keeps mentioning on the broadcasts, the defense can be fixed through the scheduling of daily infield and OF practices before the games. He also suggests that the bullpen coach assist with the pitchers from the dugout instead of sitting out there in the bullpen. Could this be a backhanded indictment of Randy St. Claire? Maybe. Anytime an entire pitching staff struggles this badly, some blame has to lie with the pitching coach.
There's enough blame to go around but in the case of the Nationals, it starts at the top, with owner Ted Lerner. The failure to sign the no. 1 draft pick last year doesn't make fans feel comfortable about the team's future. What is going to happen with Stephen Strasburg and his agent, "Maximum" Boras? Are the Nats going to rely on all of the young guys developing into dependable starters by next season? Injuries can and do happen. Lerner doesn't need to go on a spending frenzy to fix the team but he does need to open up his wallet a little, in order to put a respectable product out there on the field. At this point, it isn't a respectable product. The team can score 5 or 6 runs every game through September but everyone knows that the Nats will still lose a majority of the games with that bullpen and the inexperienced starting pitching.
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Potomac Fan you mostly on the mark. Problem lies at the very top.
I would disagree in the following ways.
1. Hanrahan will never be a quality closer.
2. Randy St. Claire is an excellent pitching coach.
The coaches have to work a bunch of pitchers who
generally do not have it for the majors. Trust me. When you live and play this game
a long time, you know when you see a player who walks and talks like a duck.
We use to say that if a player could not make it to the majors witin 3 years, he would never make it.
My theory is that Lerner wants to keep the operation on the cheap and sell it when
economic terms are better. You say that Lerner bought it for $450 million, and it is worth only $150 million now. I would beg to differ with you. Lerner would never take a loss that big. If he put the market on sale right now. I guarantee, Las Vegas or Charlotte,NC would snap it up for $700 million even with all the losers on the team. Then there’s the MLB conspiracy theory, in that, Bud Selig never wanted a team here in the first place. It’s too close to the seat of regulations. That he awarded the team to Lerner with the understanding that he not really spend on this team, so that it would lose, and then no fans would show up. Then Selig could say, “Well the fans did not support the team”.
Then Lerner would be free to either sell or move it. In fact, maybe that might be the real reason for not investing in his team. No fans would allow him to move it to Las Vegas.
Remember Vegas offered to pay all costs for moving and building a indoor stadium.
Those gamblers have deep pockets you know.
Keep the faith!
wxguy
The Lerners have chosen the Bob Short business model. I’m almost at the point
I agree that the Nationals don’t have to be have-nots – I think realistically they’re a team that could afford a healthy, but not enormous payroll, perhaps analogues to St. Louis. I do still have faith in the way the organization is going about building a team though, for the overriding reason that the team was in such shambles when the ownership took control of it that a spending spree would have only brought them to mediocrity and would have limited their options moving forward.
If you’re managing the personnel of a baseball team obviously your long-term goal is build a team that wins as many games as possible; to maximize a sort of abstract concept that you could think about as “baseball skill”, I guess. But obviously a team is confined by a number of constraints, the three big ones being roster size, payroll, and playing time (this more so as an issue of keeping players happy). The goal then, of course, is to build the best team you can from within those constraints.
I don’t think there’s any doubt that the Nationals have not done that this year, simply by virtue of the fact that they haven’t been as aggressive as the could have afforded to be in the free agent market. However I don’t see this as a sign that the Lerners are cheap or that the management is inept; I see it as intelligent asset management.
With a few exceptions decent free agents will command a decent commitment, both in terms of contract length and annual salary, and while it might be tempting to shell out the cash to get a bonus in the short term, there’s not a lot of good done in turning a 55 win team into a 65 win team or a 65 win team into a 75 win team, the general range the Nationals are in now. The fans might be a little happier and team may be a less obvious butt of jokes for lazy sportswriters, but it doesn’t do much good when it comes to helping you get to where you want to be in the long term. Ergo to wind up in a spot where you’ve made significant commitments and tightened your restraints once the team is starting to get competitive puts you in a bad position.
For example, imagine a scenario (2011, perhaps) where Stephen Strasburg is anywhere near as good as he’s being made out to be, Scott Olsen gets healthy and is reasonably productive like he was in Florida, John Lannan continues to be decent, and two of the combination of Martins, Zimmermann, Detwiler, and Balester look like they’re ready to legit decent starters (note: I’m not saying I expect this to happen, my point is that it’s impossible to know).
In that situation the team has its whole rotation set and now the team has a ton of money and roster space to go out and address other issues (i.e. the bullpen) that they wouldn’t have had if they’d gone out and signed, say, A.J. Burnett and Derek Lowe would would have three and two years left on their contracts at $17 and $15 million, respectively. By waiting until the team is on the cusp of competitiveness to see what the team’s biggest holes are, you give yourself an opportunity to better evaluate what the team’s weaknesses are and give yourself more resources to address them.
That’s not to say signing free agents when you’re where the Nationals are doesn’t make sense, but I think they only make sense under one of two conditions, both of which we saw this offseason. One is where a guy is so good and has such a solid track record that you feel comfortable that he’s going to be valuable when your team gets competitive, as was the case with Mark Teixeira. The other is a case where you add a guy who helps but doesn’t require a huge commitment, as was the case with Adam Dunn (and would have been nice to see with a relief pitcher or two…or three….). If the Nationals identify a guy who they think fits into either of those categories, I think they’ll go after them, and I think it’s a sound strategy.
every free agent in baseball
that was offered a salary by the Cardinals, the winningest franchise in the NL history, and the same salary by the Nats, royals, and pirates would always take the offer from the cardinals. The Nats et al has to spend almost twice as much for players than the cardinals, so how could they do what you say?
Proof: Here are some players and salaries from teams with losing histories and the cardinals
Albert Pujols 14,427,326
Jose Guillen 12,000,000
Jack Wilson 7,400,000
Michael Young 13,054,526
Cristian Guzman 8,000,000
Aaron Harang 14,000,000
Carlos Lee 19,000,000
Miguel Tejada 14,811,414
Lance Berkman 14,500,000
I think you are beginning to see that the Cardinals have to pay less for free agents than most other teams. Would you take Jose Guillen and $5 million in cash for Pujols? You would be up $3 million in cash? Nope, then Pujols is way underpaid, which since he has been a free agent, means he was willing to take less to pay for the cardinals. this is common. The cardinals have been to the most World Series in the NL than any other team by a huge margin. This is why they get the discount.
"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James
I am unsure how the Lehners have been cheap, they just do not get how to build a baseball team
I just do not see where the evidence for being cheap. Besides the team losing. Our problem has been terrible management. We pay more per win the more than half the teams in the country. Who among the following would you describe as underpaid?
2009 wages
1 a. Cristian Guzman 8,000,000
1 b. Adam Dunn 8,000,000
1 c. Austin Kearns 8,000,000
4. Nick Johnson 5,500,000
5. Dmitri Young 5,000,000
8. Scott Olsen 2,800,000
9. Daniel Cabrera 2,600,000
10. Joe Beimel 2,000,000
11. Ronnie Belliard 1,900,000
12. Josh Bard 1,600,000
None of them! These are nice guys, but they are all overpaid. Now tiexera was offered (I think) the second highest salary in the history of baseball by us, but he was willing to make a couple of million less per year to play for the Yankees (keeping NJ is the better option). We made high bids at several top pitchers including CC sabathia and AJ Burnett but they all wanted far to much to play for a losing team. We made the highest bid for a player ever in that slot of the draft last year and he said no. And we are expected to have the highest bid for any just drafted professional player in the history of the World for Strassburg this summer (seriously history of the world). How is this team cheap? You can offer a player money, but you can’t make them sign.
Recall that the Royals had to double every other offer on the market to sign Meche. Meche is a good pitcher that might help get them into the playoffs this year, but he is way overpaid. Is he worth more than Beckett? 1. Jose Guillen 12,000,000 2. Gil Meche 11,400,000 salaries of free agents signed by the royals (both way overpaid, but otherwise they would not have signed) compare that to Josh Beckett 11,166,666? Meche makes more than Beckett. KC has to way overpay for free agents and so does the NATS. So the NATS should be doing all it can to not overpay for free agents, but build from within. They are doing a solid job building from within. Look at the rotation! It will just take time.
Our teams problem has been mismanagement. Overpaying for players based on bats with no regard to gloves (ie Dunn, Soriano, Wilkenson, etc). Plus, star free agents almost never agree to play for last place teams for any resonable sum of money.
"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James
My motivation for posting
I wanted to light a fire and get a reaction from the Nats. (Of course, there may not be that many people visiting this site but that’s a matter for another thread.) Or just rant about the comedy of errors (literally and figuratively) that the Nats have become. I mean, even though they won on Monday, they gave up 2 runs on a walk — and neither of those runs was forced in! That is typical of what has been going on this season.
Whether or not that many people visit this site, we finally saw some action as pitching coach Randy St. Claire was fired. Maybe the bullpen troubles weren’t all his fault but he WAS the person in charge of coaching the pitchers. He did a good job last year but maybe that was all he could muster. Something is woefully wrong with the 2009 team and it’s not just one thing. There are so many bone-headed errors. That could be the result of the lack of regular fielding practice. (Four groundballs per infielder doesn’t count as real fielding practice.) Or it could be the poor personnel decisions last offseason. Or both. Or poor coaching.
So many of the pitchers refuse to throw strikes. It’s the pitching coach’s job to get the pitchers doing what they need to do to be effective. St. Claire wasn’t the only guilty party but he was in the middle of it all. Sorry to see him get fired but it might have been necessary for the team to move forward. Hopefully the new guy is better. If not, get a new coach in the offseason.
I won’t address specific points since I’m not claiming to have all the answers. My primary motivation for posting was to show that at least some Nats’ fans are getting fed up with the state of affairs and that the ownership needs to turn around the franchise sooner rather than later. The team does not have a strong fanbase so multiple 100-loss seasons could do serious damage to the team’s long-term prospects. If you think it’s hard to sign free agents now, what about after another 100-loss season? Or two, or three? If that’s the case, then everybody better hope that every single one of the young pitchers works out and no one has any serious injuries in the years to come.
I realize that it won’t be easy to build a winner in D.C. but there are many achievable steps that the team can take. They can find better defensive players. They tend not to be as in demand so the salaries shouldn’t be exorbitant. While we’ll still need a good offense, we need to fill in the roster with role players who play good defense. We don’t necessarily need Mark Teixeira types. We can get mid-level players who know how to do the little things right and fill out the roster with those players. We can look for at least one dependable veteran pitcher over the winter to help out the starting rotation. No matter how much potential there is with the current group, it’s still a joke to have 4 rookies and a 2nd-year player as your complete rotation. Most of these guys would still be in the minors in most other organizations, so that does mean that the Nats are acting like a AAA or AA team.
What I don’t want to see is the development of a loser culture in D.C. where 100-loss seasons are accepted as inevitable. I don’t want to see the team turning into a joke, where they can give up 5-run leads in the last 2 innings on a regular basis and where they give up 2 runs on a walk (without the bases being loaded). The team needs to rebuild, obviously, but it doesn’t need to turn into a caricature of a professional baseball team. At many times this season, that’s exactly what the Nats are becoming. It’s sad to see the lack of respect that the team gets around the country but they haven’t earned any respect except in a few instances here and there. The organization, the coaches, the players and the fans need to get fired up and get determined to see a winning team in D.C. again, soon. (Well, the Nats had a winning record in the first half of 2005.)
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Washington, first in war, first in peace, last in the NL East :(
On Bard's error...
…to be fair, even if Bard smothers the WP and no runs score, the bases are still loaded, and Stammen gave up two singles afterward, which would still score the runs. Did Stammen get rattled by the error and that made him give up the extra hits? Maybe, but he was starting to look pretty hittable even before then.
On your main points, I think I mostly agree. Right now, the team is badly built (BOWDEN!!). We need to fill holes and concentrate on internal development. As Kasten says, the team will get the attendance they deserve… [points at Rizzo’s head]
"We are all jinxers in NatsTown™." --cat daddy3000

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