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Why Do The Washington Nationals Want To Fire Manny Acta?

(ed. note - "Note to all media...Since so many are stopping by to see if Manny Acta's been fired, one small request, no more 'Natinals' jokes, please? Continuing...")

With twelve hours or so to think about the causes behind the Washington Nationals' 4-3 loss to the Tampa Bay Devil Rays Friday night, (which saw Nick Johnson drop a two-out foul pop a pitch before the game-winning home run by the Rays' Gabe Kapler in the bottom of the eighth), Washington Nationals' team President Stan Kasten talked to reporters, including Washington Times' writer Ben Goessling, who quotes Mr. Kasten in a Chatter post entitled, "Acta still the manager", in which Mr. Kasten makes it clear that the Nationals are at least considering a change on the bench, but also explains why they may not have done so as of 12:14 am EST on Monday...(ed. note - "Yes, I am counting the hours to what I now see as inevitable."), as Mr. Kasten explains: 

"'I think you all watched the game last night, and you watched us lose a game, and if you listed the reasons for why we lost the game, I don't think the manager would be anywhere on your list of reasons. So it's hard dealing with that. And yet, we have a record of 16-43, which is, to me, inexplicable. So that's how I feel.'"

The problem is...

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...The problem is that the same can be said of so many of the Nationals' 45 losses this season. So I ask you, why do the Nationals want to fire Manny Acta? When Washington hired Mr. Acta in early November of 2006, then DC GM Jim Bowden told AP writer Howard Fendrich, in an article entitled, "Nationals hire Manny Acta as new manager", that the team believed Acta was the right choice to replace old-school Frank Robinson because Acta was, in Mr. Bowden's words: "'...well-balanced, all the way around...He really understands teaching, developing, building a young club. He has great people skills, (and) he knows how to put the hammer down.'"

384 games later, with Washington having gone 148-236 under Manny Acta's direction, the team is on the verge of ridding themselves of the last few stains the Former DC GM left on the roster, and the Nationals are about to be left with just the kind of young team they imagined Mr. Acta developing when they originally hired him. So why fire Manny Acta now?

Peter Gammons was on "Baseball Tonight" to address Acta's status this evening, and after confirming his belief in the rumors of Acta's imminent departure, Mr. Gammons explained that Washington was interested in "changing the culture" of the ballclub. Nationals' team President Stan Kasten, as Washington Post writer Chico Harlan noted this weekend in a post entitled, "Kasten Won't Confirm or Deny Acta Firing Rumor", would only say, when asked, "..directly if the organization supports Acta", that, "We always support everyone here and always will," which I pointed out in a post yesterday, is a little too close to what Mr. Kasten told The Post's Chico Harlan in another post this past March entitled, "Bowden Denies Wrongdoing", where the Nationals' Team President responded to a question about Jim Bowden's job security by explaining that he, "...support(s) everyone who works for the Washington Nationals, all the time period," just a week before Mr. Bowden's "resignation."

Mr. Acta, at least as of the end of May, before his job security had become a national story, told the Washington Post's Chico Harlan in another Nationals Journal post entitled, "Acta Sees No Reason For Alarm", that he wasn't worried, "...because I've been up here for eight years in the big leagues...(and) my name's out there," meaning, he explained, that he believed he had achieved enough in baseball already that he'd always be able to make a living somewhere in the game, and around the same time, Mr. Acta took part in an interview with MLB.com writer Bill Ladson, entitled, "Acta discusses Nats' present and future", where Mr. Ladson went so far as to say that, "For the first time since you arrived in Washington, the fans are not on your side. They want to see a new manager...," which prompted Mr. Acta to say:

"'I can't control what people think or say. The bottom line is: they want to see the team win. Everybody is on board with the rebuilding. But that being said, not too many people are patient enough to lose while rebuilding. I have to respect their opinion, but I just prepare myself to go out there every single day and give this team the best possible chance to win.'"

"...not too many people are patient enough to lose while rebuilding..." Now that quote, is really interesting in light of Mr. Kasten's comments, again, in Washington Post writer Chico Harlan's Nationals Journal post entitled, "Kasten Won't Confirm or Deny Acta Firing Rumor", where the team President is quoted as stating:

"'We know the future is bright but we're not waiting for the future to get here. We're going to do everything we can to speed it up.'"

Maybe the new manager will be able to make the future arrive...uh, quicker? Or maybe the Nationals' will simply make another non-decision, exemplified by the "Acting" tag still hanging in front of "Acting" DC GM Mike Rizzo's job title...but more important than anything else, I think, is that the Nationals' no.1 pick this year, who, I might remind you has not yet signed, is getting to see how the organization deals with internal matters, out there in the media with the rumors spread by either, FOXSports.com's Ken Rosenthal's "major league sources", or SI.com's Jon Heyman's "national league source", which gets us ever closer to the inevitable "source with knowledge of the team's thinking", who'll finally let us know Acta's fate...

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Should The Washington Nationals Fire Manny Acta?
16-44? Do You Have To Ask? Fire Manny Acta!
243 votes
This Is Not Acta's Fault!! Don't Fire Manny Acta!!
304 votes

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Dont fire Acta

Ed, you have changed my mind.
there is no way you can blame this on him.
But, if the Nationals are up by 2-4 runs, shouldn’t we feel semi-safe?

by ryzim22 on Jun 15, 2009 7:00 AM EDT reply actions  

They want to blame someone

so blame Manny
Same thing happened with Randy St. Claire

by ryzim22 on Jun 15, 2009 7:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like Manny, but he's not getting the job done

This team is mired in the cellar and needs some kind of kick start. They may decide to go to Riggleman because they can promote from within w/o going through the involved interview process set up by MLB, like they did with Rizzo. The question is, could another manager have prevented some of those losses. if they feel the answer is yes, Manny is gone. I missed the game yesterday, daughter’s baby shower, but when I heard the final score, I was not surprised. We stink. It hurts. Make some changes. Do something to show losing is not acceptable to this FO. The pitching has been better for the most part since MacCatty took over. I now change my mind and think Detwiler, not Stammen, goes down when Olsen gets back. I think Kasten thinks this team is better than its record, so do I. Then Manny has to go.

by gengreen17 on Jun 15, 2009 7:12 AM EDT reply actions  

This.

Like it or not, Manny is not a good game manager. This team should not be 16-45. He makes mistakes with who to pinch hit, how to order the lineup, what to do defensively, etc. He refuses to stick up for his team by discussing calls with umpires. He’s a great motivator in the clubhouse, but the Nats do not need Oprah at the helm. I love Manny as a person but not as a manager.

by thehoagster07 on Jun 15, 2009 7:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not Getting the job done!?!?!?

gengreen17,

Manny Acta is one of the best young minds in baseball.

I can always tell who the people are who have never played big time baseball, or at least followed it closely for many years.
What the hell is Manny supposed to do with the mainly minor league duds (especially pitchers) he has been left to use by those penny-pinching owners, the Lerner’s? Don’t kid yourself, no matter who they get to manage, this team will be a loser because nobody wants to play for an owner who worries more about making his pennies than paying some capital to invest in a future winner.

The pitching has been better?!?!? Wait until the Nats face the Yanks, Red Sox, and the Bluejays over the next couple of weeks.
If I were Manny I would resign due to the micromanaging and pennypinching owners before he gets fired.

But I’ll be happy for Manny when he signs up next year as manager of the Yanks or probably the Mets, and wins the World Series. He doesn’t deserve the hand he was dealt with the Nats!

wxguy

by wxguy on Jun 15, 2009 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t really see what you’re trying to say here. Manny has done nothing revolutionary here, nothing to deserve the “best young minds in baseball” moniker.

by thehoagster07 on Jun 15, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't believe, with all due respect to the players on the team, that Mr. Acta has been given a full competitive roster to work with...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jun 15, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

While the roster hasn’t been “fully competitive,” it is at least a .350 roster. How much worse does this team have to perform for you guys to want to fire Manny?

by thehoagster07 on Jun 15, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea sorry E

I agree completely that he was never given the ‘horses’ to do the job. But every one of us thought we would do better than a 100 game losing season. With a better closer/bullpen we would have won many of those early games. But sadly, it hasnt happened and more importantly, we’re getting worse in some areas – not better.

Its not just Mannys fault – but he is one of the guys responsible. Im not one to fire someone for firing sake, but the Nats should use this season to build for next year and that also goes for the manager. If the Nats are committed to Manny, than they should leave him in there and sign an extension. If they arent, get it over with and move on.

"Baseball is like church. Many attend; few understand."

by Mezza on Jun 15, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Fully competitive?"

I did the math. This is a 70-win team, and it’s somehow on a path for 40. Some of it’s bad luck, some it’s underperformance, but the rest…?

We are all jinxed in NatsTown™.

by Doghouse on Jun 15, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I did mean "full-competitive" as in hitting but no pitching, bullpen but no starters in previous years...etc...

But there’s no way I thought this team with this talent would = 40 wins, that’s for sure…still don’t think it’s Acta but as the cliche goes, “you can’t fire 25 players so…”, I won’t go down without a fight…

(currently editing)….

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jun 15, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's not good with pitching moves, either

he should have argued those “home run” calls in NY with some passion.
he is too controlled. Where’s Earl Weaver when you need him. I want to see some fire in this team. More plays like Gonzo’s take out at second the other day. It like they expect to lose and he stands there watching the boat sink. Patiently.

by gengreen17 on Jun 15, 2009 7:38 AM EDT reply actions  

Manny needed to find a balance between being a passive observer during games and supporting his players. Get thrown out once in a while. Stick up for your players even though you know the call won’t be changed. The next call may go your way. Umpires know who the quiet ones are…and it does make a difference.

The team’s lack of fundamentals is his fault. Throwing to the wrong base, not bunting, and all the pickoffs…and even Milledge. He’s the captain of the ship, and these big issues have lost games.

Who knows if they’ll can him or not. If they do, I really think we will see a change for the better.

by RoscoeNats on Jun 15, 2009 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Inexplicable? Let me help you Mr. Kasten answer that question.

We all saw it coming. The buildup was there. The whispered rumors.
Manny Acta has been officially labeled the official Nats “Scapegoat”.
Mr. Kasten, whom I admire as a wizard, proclaims that it is inexplicable as to why the Nats are losing.

Please Mr. Kasten tell the truth. It’s not Manny Acta or Randy St. Clair, or ….
it’s the darn owner. The Nats are doomed as long as the Lerner’s are the owners
of this embarrassment known as the Nats!

Right now I’m mad as hell , and not going to take it anymore.
Where is Ted eonis when you need him. Let the Lerner’s go build malls.

wxguy

by wxguy on Jun 15, 2009 9:46 AM EDT reply actions  

I can't imagine that changing managers will suddenly make our pitchers perform

but I have to agree about some of the other stuff. I know it’s not Manny’s style to get all fired up and emote, but the impression that the fans get is that he’s not fighting for the team. I know he’s invested in it, but we don’t see that, and I don’t think it’s a stretch to assume that it has some effect on the players too.

by NotASenator on Jun 15, 2009 9:52 AM EDT reply actions  

on passion

i don’t understand why some people think that just because Acta doesn’t scream and yell that he doesn’t have passion for the game and his team. he has more passion for what he’s doing than any of us making commentary about it. for us, baseball—this awful team—is a diversion from the mundane serial boredom of our everyday lives. for Acta, it IS his life.

imagine, for a moment, having your perfect dream job. now imagine that your company was owned by the Lerners, continually doing things with the short-term in focus instead of forward thinking long-term goals. or if your direct boss had the word “acting” in front of his title and he/she always had to go over their own heads to get a decision made. or if someone you managed consistantly wouldn’t listen to how you wanted things done and did things their own way. think you could succeed in a job like that? regardless of how much passion you had for that job?

Your voice of doom and gloom. Read more at natsnewsnetwork.blogspot.com

by Dave at District Sports Page on Jun 15, 2009 10:43 AM EDT reply actions  

I think Manny’s dream job is managing the Mets…which he’ll likely be doing next season if Omar keeps his job. We’ll get to see how he does when given the tools to win.

by RoscoeNats on Jun 15, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I believe it

I’m just saying it’s hard to see sometimes.

by NotASenator on Jun 15, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

How do people know you're passionate unless you yell and scream, NNN?

This patient even keel approach just isn’t working, these “kids” need someone to yell and scream and…ugh…SAVE MANNY!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jun 15, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

see, i think the complete opposite

the “kids” benefit from not having a screamer as a manager. think back to when you were 24 (longer for some than others). how did you react when your boss yelled at you?

Your voice of doom and gloom. Read more at natsnewsnetwork.blogspot.com

by Dave at District Sports Page on Jun 15, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, should have denoted sarcasm, I still cower when I run into my little league coach, who was a BIG yeller...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jun 15, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

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by RoscoeNats on Jun 15, 2009 10:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Why the Lerner bashing?

they own the team, they paid big bucks for a franchise MLB had stripped of most quality players, they want to make money, they are smart business people. Jimbo said they have always given the money when he asked for it. I think he convinced his buddy Mark Lerner that he could save them a bundle with his smart wheeling and dealing. Didn’t work. Kasten sold them on the PLAN, but they ALL underestimated the need to get a team together that would attract fans now. Manny looked like a good hire, but he has not lived up to expectation. Is it all his fault? No. It is some of his fault—yes. Would this team perform better under another manager? I think we need to find out.

by gengreen17 on Jun 15, 2009 10:57 AM EDT reply actions  

BECUZ LERNER'S R TEH CHEEP!!!!!11!!1!

I mean, uh, BOWDEN!!

I don’t think the Lerners have been particularly cheap. We’ve argued in other threads that they’ve been willing to spend money, and that they haven’t spent it wisely. I think the basic idea of THE PLAN is sound (build from within and by trading, only sign free agents to fill big holes and/or when you can get a deal and/or are ready to contend). How well the FO is doing executing THE PLAN is another discussion… But to paraphrase Rumsfeld, you start the season with the team you have, not the team you wish you had.

BOWDEN!!

We are all jinxed in NatsTown™.

by Doghouse on Jun 15, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Question...

Who the heck approved the D-Cab signing? Was there somebody above Bowden who had to approve this?

by RoscoeNats on Jun 15, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh, paraphrasing Rumsfeld, this has gotten bad...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jun 15, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

When TEH PLAN works:

It’s Atlanta.

When it doesn’t: it’s Baltimore.

by Chris Pendley on Jun 15, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh oh, now you've done it.

Without lobbing too many incendiaries, quite frankly I don’t believe the Lerners are willing to spend money – and if they do understand the the need to spend money, they have no idea how to apportion it. While they probably are making money, they’re doing it at the expense of the on-field product, and this has been reflected in the gates the Nats have gotten so far this season (last i checked, it was about 8,000-9,000 less than last year).

Where I have issues with the Lerners is where they’ve chosen to save. Dragging the contractor chain through hell during stadium construction after requesting change orders is deplorable and really didn’t do anything to ingrain themselves with local businesses. (This is a running theme with them in construction, though.) (On an unrelated note, I even take issue with their claims of efficient cooling of their facility, but that’s really way down the rabbit hole. I can go into it in more detail if anyone cares to know; I don’t think you do. Suffice to say, this was another move they passed as brilliant that wasn’t.) Failing to pay their own employees in a timely manner – this happened last year, IIRC – is again deplorable.

There’s no excuse for waiting until Bowden was facing indictment to get rid of him; even if you accept that the Lerners trusted Bodes – incorrectly – to field a team, it’s simply a PR no-brainer to distance yourself from anything related to an international scandal. Waiting until when they did eliminated the chance to hire a replacement, and promoting from within without hiring a replacement person kept expenses down. It’s a dumb way to keep costs down (and their cost of replacement wasn’t large; Rizzo and a few others likely got a raise, but the aggregate cost probably wasn’t what Bowden was making) and I doubt it was their primary reason for doing it, but either way it’s bad management.

That’s what it comes down to; while everyone (including me) points at the money, I also have no confidence that the Lerners have any idea how to run a professional sports franchise. Heck, some of the things they’ve done are just terrible business.

by Chris Pendley on Jun 15, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

None of this really relates to Acta, though.

Quite frankly, I don’t think it makes a lick of difference whether or not he’s the manager. I believe the talent on this roster is sub-replacement level at this point; Connie Mack couldn’t lead this team to 63 wins. Jim Riggleman isn’t even remotely in the ballpark.

The thing that bugs me is the front office move against …well, using video and statistical analysis and more toward machismo and gut feel. Gut feel results in Brandon Watson getting 500 ABs because “he’s a gamer”. Yeah, you can argue that St. Claire didn’t adapt his approach, but a) he used video for instruction and correction and b) McCatty is a “use what works” kind of guy. “Use what works” is okay with a group of veterans who can recognize and adjust when things aren’t working; how will this work when Martis and Zimmermann have a book on their pitching mechanisms? Will it?

by Chris Pendley on Jun 15, 2009 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the Lerner problem is mostly due to Lerner, the Younger...

He was given responsibility and fell in love with Bowden—-a really bad thing.
Probably, the son was trying to impress the old man who whether you like his business style or not is the smart one. Alas, the son seems to be something of a fool or a dud —not an unusual occurrence when the father is a big deal.

So that explains some of the Dumbo Jimbo moves and refusal to fire him. As Kasten and Rizzo have said, the team wasn’t constructed with defense in mind. BOWDEN!

But Acta said himself this was the most talented team he’s had to work with. The results have been horrifying. Some of that must be laid at the feet of Acta whether it seems fair or not.

In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. -Yogi Berra-

by MissB on Jun 15, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Talent doesn't matter if you don't account for brains.

I mean, Daniel Cabrera is talented. He’s also a friggin’ headcase and has been for years. All the talent in the world won’t matter if it’s either a) raw or b) unwilling to be harnessed. (See: Thrilledge, Blastings.) The manager has to have at least willing players to coach. I don’t think the assembly of this team has been conducive to getting talent that could reasonably be coached – save the god-awful defensive failings. At least some of those could be fixed.

by Chris Pendley on Jun 15, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

263 votes in, Manny is making a comeback...

…and as of 11:31 pm EST there’s no official announcement…and no one seems to be happy that Manny’s been left “twisting” in the wind…

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jun 15, 2009 11:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Will the new Manager be an "Acting" Manager?

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jun 15, 2009 11:38 AM EDT reply actions  

ACTAing manager?

We are all jinxed in NatsTown™.

by Doghouse on Jun 15, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a new catchphrase...

Drop the “Acting” Keep the Acta!!! By which I of course mean, keep them both!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jun 15, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Acta as manager

How about looking at the progress of the players and of the coaching staff during Acta’s tenure? Let’s see: Kearns can’t hit anymore; Milledge isn’t even around; Dukes isn’t moving forward; in his short time here, Dunn’s fielding (impossibly!) seems to be actually getting WORSE; Dmitri seems to have eaten his way off the roster; Belliard has lost it, especially at the plate. The list goes on and on of position players who need coaching and managing, but don’t seem to be showing the benefits of either. As for the coaching staff, well, of course every one of them has been axed (Randy being the lone holdover into this year, but alas, he wasn’t spared either). But their performances were mostly notworthy for their mistakes. For example, how many third-base coaches are ever even in the news? But Tolman was a few times because he messed up on sending runners home. And why on earth is Willie Harris running into a bullpen catcher? What kind of organization is this that can’t get its act together enough to get its bullpen guys out of the way of a foul ball? The MANAGER should be REALLY TICKED OFF at that. More important, if the manager had the proper level of respect from the coaches and players, it NEVER WOULD HAVE HAPPENED. I have always supported Acta previously, but it is now, finally, clear to me that he’s lost this team.

by ricksnats on Jun 15, 2009 1:53 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree with your assessment.

The team is getting worse. They clearly need some good coaching and managing, but aren’t getting it.

There’s a big difference between being a screamer and being a manager who sticks up for his players – especially on blown calls – and one who builds enthusiasm for the team.

I honestly think Manny does not have the full skill set at this point to be a major league manager.
One day he probably will and will perhaps, be a good manager. But he’s being asked to do a job he doesn’t know how to do at this point.

By all accounts, he’s a very good person, but that still doesn’t make him a very good manager. They’re 2 very different things.

In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. -Yogi Berra-

by MissB on Jun 15, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

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