To the Man(n)y Apologists, Ron Villone Just Dropped to 0-4 IN THE PAST SIX DAYS!
I was out of town for a week, so I didn't really have the computer time to post my feelings on the subject (which most of you already know). Sadly, I was going to point to the Pythagorean Win-Loss records, but Doghouse stole my thunder a bit there. I'm still going to throw a little more in there about the Pythagorean Win-Loss, but I just won't go as in-depth. Instead, we're going to go with a narcissistic lead where I begin with a quote of my own from two weeks ago.
Acting GM Mike Rizzo started the change Tuesday, when the club fired pitching coach Randy St. Claire. From a performance standpoint, the move certainly makes plenty of sense. The Nationals are currently last in the majors with a 5.67 ERA. The club also ranks dead last with a .285 Batting Average Against, a .370 OBP against (12 full points higher than 29th ranked Cleveland), 8 Saves, 15 Quality Starts, and a 1.34 Strikeout to Walk ratio. Seeing as how the problems with the walks have been well documented, I'll bring up that they're 28th in the league in Walks Allowed, slightly better than the Dodgers (who counter that with a leauge-leading .236 BAA) and the Indians. The staff also ranks 27th with just 297 strikeouts thus far. Yes.... the players are obviously harder to "fire" than the pitching coach, but it was clear that St. Claire just wasn't on the verge of turning things around. The staff got off to a poor start in April, but they actually regressed across the board in the season's second month.The question regarding the St. Claire move, however, is this: Could this be a message that Manny Acta had better get it together quickly? Admittedly, I've been one of the more adamant critics of Acta all season long, so those of you who have read anything I've written already probably knew I was going here. Still, St. Claire's firing removes a crutch that Acta could have continued to use before Tuesday. If there's not a huge change in team performance by the end of June, I would be shocked if Acta is still running this club by the All-Star Break. I'm not necessarily talking about a winning month, but if the club doesn't play at least .400 ball, Acta's job should be on the line.
To give a brief update, St. Claire was fired on June 2 and replaced by current pitching coach Steve McCatty. The pitchers have responded. After allowing 308 runs in the 50 games of the season's first two months (6.16), they've allowed just 57 runs in 13 June games under McCatty (4.38). Before you blame the awful defense, the 1.78 runs/game differential is not representing the earned runs the Nationals pitchers have allowed.... those are the total runs.
In spite of the corrections on the runs allowed side of the ledger, the Nats have been worse (3-10, .231 winning percentage) in June than they were heading into the month (13-36, .265), as the offense has gone from scoring 4.8 runs/game in the season's first two months to 3.07 runs/game so far in June. Is Acta to blame for all of this? Certainly not all of it, but it is a bit striking that (albeit with a small sample size) the team's biggest problem has corrected itself by nearly two full runs per game and the team is actually performing worse. I stand by what I said a couple of weeks ago. The performance of the bullpen/pitching staff in general under St. Claire early this season was what should have been the last crutch he could have leaned on.
Let's jump, because this could take a while.....
Again, Doghouse did a fine job of looking into the Pythagorean Win-Loss performance of the Nats so far this season. Based purely on a runs scored/runs allowed comparison, the Nationals would seem to have a 23-38 (.377) team, though they've played well below that. I'm of the belief that, as long as you have a manager who is intelligent enough to read above a fourth grade level (i.e., someone competent enough to fill out a lineup card), the manager isn't going to have a huge impact on a team's performance in comparison with their run differential. There are going to be some close games where they make the right call and some close games where they make the wrong call. In all honesty, once you're talking about a manager that's good enough to have gotten to the big league level, you're probably talking about a guy who can (at most) change the outcome of ten games over the course of a 162 game season.
Still, I'm going to point to some of the numbers that Doghouse used in his look:
Extra innings: 0-8 (Pythag: 3-5)
1-run games: 6-11 (Pythag: 8-9)
2-run games: 1-11 (Pythag: 5-7)
3-run games: 3-9 (Pythag: 3-9)
4 or more: 6-14 (7-13)
The two that really jump out at you are the Extra Inning games and the 2-run games. While errors, bad luck, and even bogus home run calls factor in, as Doghouse told us, he neglected to toss any of that blame Manny's way. The fact that the bullpen lacks quality arms certainly isn't Manny's fault, but his use of those arms has certainly been questionable all season long, including the past week. With all of the losing that we've had to endure this season, let's go back to the first home stand of the season, which (sadly) has turned out to be one of their best stretches of the season. The team went 3-5 on the homestand, with four of the five losses being games that involved a blown save. The fifth loss came in a terrific pitcher's duel that was (disgustingly enough) decided on a bases loaded walk with two outs in the ninth inning (1-0) to the Braves. In said losses, here are some of the bullpen decisions that Manny made:
He hung with "his seventh inning guy" Saul Rivera after bringing the right-handed setup man in to face the most heavily left-handed portion of the Phillies lineup. Rivera hit Shane Victorino and Chase Utley on consecutive pitches (hmmm... was he not right that day, maybe?) before giving up a three-run bomb to Ryan Howard. For some reason, Rivera was still in the ballgame two batters later when Raul Ibanez (see: another lefty) hit another homer, which would prove to be the difference in a 9-8 loss.
After having watched Joel Hanrahan blow saves on consecutive nights (no blame on the first one.... he's your closer, and he blew a one-run lead. It happens. There probably should have at least been someone ready as he blew a three-run save the next night), Acta decides to turn to Rivera again. At this point, Rivera had already been hung with two losses in the past week, having allowed five runs in his past two innings of work. This time Rivera, a pitcher struggling to find the zone and getting tagged consistently when he does find it, is his ninth inning guy. He loses the lead before retiring a batter, and quickly turns a one-run save opportunity into a three-run loss.
While both examples that I cited were about Saul Rivera, I'm giving him a bit of a pass on the Hanny thing. Hanny did record two saves in the first two games of the Braves series after being given the vote of confidence by Acta. Of course, he didn't look great in doing so, and he's since lost the closer's job not once, but twice. The main thing that I'm pointing to is that, while Acta is showing confidence in his players, he's simply not reading them well. When Rivera hits the first two batters in an inning, it's probably about time to start getting someone ready. When you're calling on Rivera (rather than one of the three lefties in your bullpen) to face a switch hitter (Victorino) and then three power-hitting lefties (Utley/Howard/Ibanez), you're simply not playing the numbers unless it's one hell of a dominant right-handed pitcher. Has he learned from those mistakes, though? You tell me!
I know that there's been a lot of support for Ron Villone in Natstown. The lefty started the year with a 0.00 ERA in his first 17 innings this season, and he certainly deserves some of that praise. Still, let's look at the past week. Here are Villone's performances since Wednesday, June 10:
June 10 vs. Cincinnati - 0 IP, 1 BB, 1 R, 1 ER, Loss
June 12 @ Tampa Bay - 1.1 IP, 2 H, 1 BB, 1 R, 1 HR, Loss (side note: Nick Johnson's fielding error on a pop-up in foul territory happened in Kapler's at bat before he homered, making the run unearned)
June 14 @ Tampa Bay - .1 IP, 2 H, 1 BB, 1 R, 1 ER, Loss
Everyone keeping up? In Villone's last three appearances, he'd thrown 1.2 innings of work. He'd allowed 4 hits, walked 3, served up a dinger, and taken three losses. Now, is there any part of you that isn't screaming "He's ice cold! Give him a couple of days off"? Manny again decided to "stick with his guy" by bringing him into Tuesday's game against the Yankees with a 3-2 lead in the seventh. Villone promptly allowed hits to the first two men he faced, watching Johnny Damon cross the plate to nullify the lead. He then allowed a game-winning double to Robinson Cano after retiring Alex Rodriguez, taking his fourth loss in six days (and five games). I'm going to have to do some research, but I think that may be a record! At least he didn't walk anyone.
So yeah.... while the Pythagorean Win-Loss record suggests some bad luck, you simply can't tell me that Manny has had nothing to do with this. I check in at this site every day, and even did so while I was on the road and could only check via my cell phone last week. There's a lot of great information here. There are a lot of great ideas here. Unfortunately, there's also a whole lot of Manny Apologizing going on here. I've been convinced that he's lost the team since they started 0-7, and while I'm intelligent enough to realize that it's not all his fault, I'm reading a little too often that it's not his fault, which leaves out a key word in my opinion.
Continuing along those Pythagorean lines, the Washington Nationals were three games above their expected win total in 2007 (Acta's first season). They were three below their expected total in 2008 (Acta's second season). They're seven games below their expected win total this season.
There are many reasons I want to see Acta gone. It's not that I dislike the guy, but.... In my opinion, he continuously mismanages the bullpen. What's worse, he doesn't learn from the mistakes he's made in the past. The team has regularly shown a lack of fundamental play and has appeared to lack passion at times (well.... most of the time). While I'm certainly sure that Acta knows the game of baseball well (considerably better than I do), he rarely does anything that seems creative or innovative, and this team certainly has shown all season that they need someone who's going to try and do things differently. Finally, while many people have mentioned the players that we'd like to see go to eliminate the Bowden era, Manny has done little to inspire confidence in the manager from the Bowden era.
So keep apologizing for Manny all you want, guys. I'll still check in, and I'll read your thoughts. I just haven't found an argument yet that can sway me on this, though. Acta had a nice year in 2007, and it bought him a year and a half to help develop some of the talent in the organization. Very few of the players seem to be showing much (if any) improvement under his tutelage. It's time for a change!
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I'm on board
Nice write up.
"Baseball is like church. Many attend; few understand."
by Mezza on Jun 17, 2009 2:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
make that three on board
100% agreed. I’m so glad you harkened back to that phillies series as well. That was when I wrote my first “acta should be fired wtf was he thinking bringing in rivera to throw to phillies lineup” post of the year. amateur hour. riggleman asap, bobby v next year maybe.
by VA SLIM on Jun 17, 2009 3:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What were the better decisions?
What Manny did in the examples you cite certainly didn’t work. But who in the bullpen at the time would have done better? Okay, if your choice is Saoool this season, maybe the answer is “anyone,” but still… If we’re going to blame him for bad choices, we have to show that there was a better choice at the time. Bowden didn’t leave us much to work with at the start of the season.
We are all jinxed in NatsTown™.
by Doghouse on Jun 17, 2009 9:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Obviously, in the first example I cite
I’ve mentioned the hitters that were coming up. Three of the next five hitters were left-handed (two of whom have had multiple top ten MVP finishes in the past four years) and one of the other two was a switch hitter. I failed to mention that he’d used Hinckley to face Jimmy Rollins for the final out in the previous inning, but there were still two lefties in the ‘pen at the time. While nobody would have been happy to see Ledezma, wasn’t that the exact situation that the club went out and got Beimel for? One run lead, two of the best lefties (with another one backing them) in the game coming up in the late innings.
“Anyone” is a good answer in the other situations, though, in my eyes. Part of what I’m pointing to is the lack of creativity that Manny’s shown. He follows a formula, and even when said formula isn’t working, he simply uses the rinse and repeat method, rather than trying something different for a couple of days. He assumes that the guy who hasn’t been getting the job done lately will get the job done.
It’s good to show faith in your players. I understand that. However, you’re carrying a seven man bullpen, and you’re not showing any faith in most of the other six guys (save whoever is being designated as the closer that day, as we can’t seem to find anyone that works) if you’re constantly going to the same guy over and over, only to watch him blow up.
by bluelineswinger on Jun 17, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whatever happen to Saul this year, it was the right call initially...
…Rivera’s career numbers against Victorino and Utley are good (3-12 and 2-12, respectively). With the consecutive plonks, I think he got into trouble too fast for Manny to pull him against Howard. Once he gave up the gopher ball, and the bases were clear, why not finish out the inning? Sure, it was a bad call, but the majority of the damage had been done. Maybe someone else would have gotten Ibanez out, maybe he’d have scored anyway. Given what we knew at the time, Manny wasn’t wrong to put Rivera out there, and the soonest he could have pulled him was probably after Howard (and Howard was 4-12 against Rivera with 2 Ks and only 1 XBH before that AB—a gamble, but not an unreasonable one, considering he hadn’t managed to do anything against Rivera in 4 PA in 2008). It was a mistake, but I think it’s only clear with hindsight.
We are all jinxed in NatsTown™.
by Doghouse on Jun 17, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if not Villone, whom?
please, blueline, enlighten us with who should have been pitching last night instead of Villone? and would it have made any difference if Elijah Dukes had any idea how to play centerfield?
here’s the thing: I like Acta. he has an idea about what it takes to win games. he’s respectful. he’s thoughtful. and, contrary to the idiots that comment on Nats Journal, he’s a very smart guy.
as for mismanaging his bullpen, what’s the guy going to do? at the start of the season he had a bunch of kids that had no business being in the major leagues due to former GM Jim Bowden completely ignoring the bullpen off-season while he was prancing about making offers to Mark Teixeira and Adam Dunn.
now, thanks to Mike Rizzo, the bullpen is full of releivers that NO ONE ELSE IN BASEBALL WANTED. Villone, Colome, Tavarez, Beimel: NONE of them had offers anywhere else entering spring training. MacDougal was trashcanned by the White Sox after half a dozen lousy performances.
and praytell, where else in the majors would Austin Kearns, Ronnie Belliard, Josh Bard, Alberto Gonzales and Anderson Hernandez find jobs? shoot, even Willie Harris wouldn’t make most team’s active roster, and he’s considered a demi-god around here in some circles.
the team that was constructed for him to manage is one of the worst fielding teams ever assembled, and anyone with Baseball Prospectus could have told you that at the begining of the season.
specific instances of decisions that mis-fired are fine. i cringed when Rivera was left out there to face Howard. but you play the hand you’re dealt. and Acta gets three cards to play five-card stud.
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Jun 17, 2009 11:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone with Baseball Prospectus
Could probably also have said that PECOTA predicted 78.5 wins and a fourth place finish for the Nationals. I certainly felt that might have been a little too optimistic, but it’s a far cry from the 42 wins that the Nats are currently on pace for.
Again, there’s a seven man bullpen. Yes… many of these guys (including Villone) are castoffs who not a lot of other teams really wanted at this point. Villone has pitched in five of the past six games, losing the last four that he’s pitched in. At the very least, do you get the feeling that Manny may be overworking him, if not showing too much confidence in a pitcher who is currently ice cold?
Here are some of those other options:
Tavarez – Last pitched Sunday. Hasn’t allowed a run in his past eight appearances, a span of 7.1 IP
Hanny – The former closer that Manny finally lost faith in, hadn’t pitched since June 12. No runs in his past two outings
MacDougal – Would later come in to give up the final run. Hadn’t pitched since the Cincy series on June 10
Wells – Probably not an ideal situation to bring him into a hold situation in his first game back from the DL
Colome – OK… you got me. He sucks
Beimel – Presumably being saved for the ninth
Worth noting – The three batters coming up were Johnny Damon (lefty, which fits for Villone), Mark Teixeira (switch), and A-Rod (with Cano to follow). We’ll just go the easy route, since the pitcher that I mentioned who has been best lately (Tavarez) has quite a bit of history against the Yankees from his time in Boston.
Damon vs. Tavarez lifetime – 3-13, 1 2b, 1 3b, 1 BB
Teixeira vs. Tavarez lifetime – 2-7, 1 HR, 1 BB
Rodriguez vs. Tavarez lifetime – 6-20, 1 BB
Cano vs. Tavarez lifetime – 2-9, 1 2b, 1 BB
Next four hitters lifetime against your hottest bullpen arm – 13-49 (.265), 2 2b, 1 3b, 1 HR
Ironically, Villone had a good history against Damon (2-12 heading into yesterday’s AB) and an amazing history against A-Rod (who he retired on a strikeout…. A-Rod is now 0-9 lifetime against Villone with 5 K). Tex is now batting over .500 lifetime against him (4-7), while Cano’s game-winning double was his first at bat ever against Villone.
As for Dukes being in CF at the time, whose decision was that? Whose decision was it that, with an opportunity to use the Designated Hitter, it would be a good idea to work all three of the team’s middle infielders into the mix rather than try and improve the outfield defense? That’s right…. it was Manny’s.
Finally, while you didn’t completely waste your breath with the NO ONE ELSE IN BASEBALL WANTED comment, I think we all know that Beimel would have hooked on somewhere. Colome was already in the system.
By no means am I saying that Manny’s been dealt the best hand. I’m simply saying, and will continue to say unless he proves otherwise, that he’s not doing the best job that can be done with the hand he was dealt. I certainly understand supporting the manager, and I feel that the way that the Nats have handled the whole situation, making him look more and more like a lame duck manager every day, is ridiculous. However, I think that all of the rumors and speculation that he’s on the way out the door are pointing towards the Nats getting ready to make the right decision regarding their managerial status.
by bluelineswinger on Jun 17, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
manny's credentials
Okay, first I’ll say I’m not attacking manny as a person. He seems to be a stand up guy. And obviously he has decent intelligence to get hired by any organization, one would hope. But I don’t get how people continue to defend him by saying how smart he is. Has he demonstrated his smarts to anyone? Please, use examples. And no, getting hired by bowden doesn’t demonstrate this. I mean, are there other managers he is smarter than?
Let’s face it, all of the managers are decently baseball smart. I just don’t think manny is anywhere near the top half of that list. So please stop saying, “he’s respectful. he’s thoughtful. and, contrary to the idiots that comment on Nats Journal, he’s a very smart guy.” Respectful and thoughtful have nothing to do with winning games or championships. And, sure, he’s smart, but is he smarter than the competition? I think not. The record proves it. Smart managers have their teams overachieving, see the marlins of the last three years. Good managers don’t just play the hand their dealt, they make adjustments.
Would Tony La Russa, Joe Torre, Bobby Cox, Terry Francona, Joe Maddon, Ron Gardenhire, Mike Scioscia or Jim Leyland be 17-46 with this squad? They certainly wouldn’t be running away with the division, but I think a decent manager can make any 25 guys good enough to be big leaguers competitive. We aren’t close.
by VA SLIM on Jun 18, 2009 4:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If its not any better at least its not the same?
The closest we’re going to get any of the managers on that list is by visiting the hall-of-fame. None of the replacement names mentioned so far are going to join them there. Guys like Valentine are a scarey thought. A managerial change like that can kill what little cohesiveness/team chemistry we have. Can we even fathom worse? How about still losing only by bigger margins? We have a built in decision point for Manny at the end of the year and some better candidates may free up allowing us to make a non-knee jerk change over the off season.
BTW: The Real culprits here are Jim Bowden and his many failures (getting so many projects and players w/declared “upside” that did not pan out) and the owners that created the need to scrounge by providing no $ to begin with. Well it’s too late to fire Bowden (who knew that the Gonzalez affair would be a blessing?) and we can’t fire the Owners. Do we have to find a fall guy for the poorly constructed team now that Bowden is not there to fire? If we have to respond in some way, we should be taking the "acting’ adjective off of Rizzo’s GM title. And, if they make the Manager change at the end of the year, I’m guessing we’ll find some high profile Managers that we’ll really want but will require us beating other teams out. That will be a chance for the Owners to prove they’re willing to invest where/when it counts.
by The District on Jun 19, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Manny is not the problem
But I doubt he is the solution either. Nor will any available skippers out there help us either. This team is just young or talentless depending on the player. We had a badly constructed bullpen to start the season, but it is starting to look adequate in recent weeks.
I do not think anyone imagined how bad the defense on this team was going to be, and that has translated into high era’s, pitch counts, few innings, and a really abused bullpen. Pecota and other projection systems do a poor job of predicting defensive impacts. You could have Adam Dunn out catching flyballs all day everyday and he will never be a gold glover. That is not Manny’s fault.
I blame much of the losses this season to whoever decided to make Millage a CF because we obviously had no backup plan! I say go get Langerhans make him the everyday CF and bat him 8th. If he onbased .340 and played well above average defense this teams defense would be really helped. Its a shame that all these real talented young starters have to have this bunch of gloveless oafs behind them. They will lose confidence and be damaged long term if this continues. Get them help! Changing managers does not help young players develope. No need to fire Manny.
"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James
by PhDBrian on Jun 18, 2009 5:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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