Memo To The Washington Nationals: DO NOT TRADE NICK JOHNSON!!!
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 2, 2009 12:28 AM EDT
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Asked by Washington Post writer Chico Harlan in a 7/31/08 Nationals Journal article entitled, "The Fully-Contextualized Jim Bowden Q&A", why the Nationals' didn't make a deal to trade away any of the veterans on their roster, then-DC GM JIm Bowden explained that there had indeed been conversations, but in the end:
"We just came to the decision, We don't want to give anybody away. That didn't make sense. We need to get a piece back that was helpful, that had a chance to help us in the big leagues someday. Those kind of deals made sense to us. But to give somebody away to a contending team and not get talent back? That didn't make sense."
ESPN.com's Buster Olney, in an article today entitled, "The trade market goes bear", wrote that the Nationals are still, "...said to be asking high prices for the likes of Nick Johnson," and if I might interpret Mr. Olney's opinion from what he says next, the price that Washington's asking might be too high, as he warns, (Is that the right word? You judge his tone):
"If interested teams turn elsewhere, the Nationals might face a day this summer when they won't be able to move Johnson at all."
(ed. note - "That "day this summer" Mr. Olney writes about would be the best day of the season for me!")
Nick Johnson Trade Talk Continues After The Jump...
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Mention Nick Johnson's name and it's inevitable that someone will bring up his injury history, (as opposed to, say, his trademark singles, NJ™), so it's understandable that other teams are reluctant to part with top prospects for a player they're worried might go on the DL at any moment, but the Nationals, who obviously have a better idea of Johnson's true worth in the batting order, on the field, (where, until recently, he'd been considered sure-handed) and in the locker room, would most likely argue that Johnson's injuries...a "deeply bruised" heel, a fractured right femur, or last year's torn right wrist tendon, are far too random a collection of injuries to form a consistent pattern or an injury "history". It's not like Johnson has chronic back or groin issues, or some recurring issues, so why shouldn't they expect legitimate talent in return?
"Acting" DC GM Mike Rizzo told New York Newsday columnist Ken Davidoff, in a late May article entitled, "Nationals are building for future," that the Nationals were willing to make a deal:
"'Nick Johnson, or (Josh) Willingham, or (Austin) Kearns, anyone on our roster, if we can make a good baseball trade and improve ourselves, not only for our present but also for our future -- a player that can impact us -- we have to make those kinds of trades...'"
Both Josh Willingham and Nick Johnson are included on a list of the "Top position players available" NY Newsday's Ken Davidoff put together for an article yesterday entitled, "Trade deadline looms, excitement begins" where Mr. Davidoff tosses out a quick line to sum up each player's value, noting that Willingham, "always hits" while Nick Johnson is a, "a better player than (Aubrey) Huff," who is also rumored to be available, but, of course Johnson is, "far more injury prone." Mr. Davidoff then goes on to explain the Nationals' strategy going into late July, writing:
"Everything must go! Well, maybe not Adam Dunn, signed through next year."
Was yesterday's trade for Nyjer Morgan and Sean Burnett just the beginning as Washington Post writer Thomas Boswell speculated in a Nationals Journal post yesterday entitled, "The Meaning of the Nats Trade"? Mr. Boswell mentions Nick Johnson, Adam Dunn, Josh Willingham, Willie Harris, Joe Beimel and Ron Villone as players the Nationals could potentially deal. MLB.com's Bill Ladson writes, in an article on yesterday's deal entitled, "Nats get Morgan, Burnett in deal with Bucs", the Cristian Guzman, "...is on the trading block", with the Nationals looking for "young starting pitching". Enjoy it while you can, this might be the last month of the Nationals as we know them...
(ed. note - "I think Washington Times' writer Ben Goessling had it right in one of the three options he offered in an article entitled, "The Nick Johnson Conundrum", which was published in late May..."Resign (Nick Johnson) to give the position some stability until Chris Marrero is ready.")
Further Reading:
• - Dave at Nats News Network.com Thinks It's Time For Plan R: For Rizzo!!!!
• - Steven at FJB Has, "Eleven Reasons Why You Should Like Nyjer Morgan". (ed. note - "Steven has a collection of highlights that'll have you screaming, "TANM!!")
• - Kristen at We've Got Heart Thinks Nyjer Morgan's Just What The Nationals Needed
• - ADAM "I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT A BLOG IS" DUNN HAS A BLOG AT MASNSports.com NOW?????
• - estopple at 1500 South Capital Street Thinks It Was Dukes' Performance And Not His Attitude That Had Him Sent Down To Syracuse.
• "One Of Us!! One Of Us!! Sean Burnett's Dramatic Debut With The Washington Nationals."
3-2 Nationals' lead heading into the bottom of the seventh after Josh Willingham's two-run single off Florida reliever Renyel Pinto. Brand new Nationals' lefty Sean Burnett gets the call from Washington Manager Manny Acta. Burnett throws 7 pitches to Marlins' CF Cody Ross and the seventh is a change up high that ends up going over the wall in left center to tie it back up at 3-3.
Sean Burnett's back out to face the switch-hitting Emilio Bonifacio, who grounds out to Cristian Guzman at short. Julian Tavarez replaces Burnett and gives up back-to-back singles before handing the ball to Mike MacDougal, who walks Dan Uggla to load the bases and then has a grounder back up the middle go off the mound, delaying the double play attempt just enough to let Wes Helms get down the line to first as the go-ahead run crosses the plate to make it 4-3 Florida after eight.
Adam Dunn K's. Josh Willingham grounds out. Alberto Gonalez strikes out. Marlins' reliever Leo Nunez gets the save, and Florida's now won 9 of the 9 games between DC and the Fish this season. Outside of Josh Willingham's seventh inning output, the only other run that scores for Washington is off starter Jordan Zimmermann's bat, as the 23-year-old right-hander throws 6.0 innings of 6-hit, 2-run ball against Florida, striking out 6 and walking only one while collecting a two-out RBI single off Fish pitcher Josh Johnson. Ryan Zimmerman goes 0 for 5 and throws one away for his 13th error of '09. Marlins 9-0 in 9 games against DC this season...9-0...
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Trade NJ - with caveats
I know there is a passionate belief that NJ should be kept at all costs. Lets break it down:
For:
1) Great hitter – nuff said
2) Good defense – also good but has made a few Es this season.
3) Good all round guy (ie. Doesn’t ‘Milledge’ people off)
4) Importantly: No ready made replacement.
Against:
1) Cost – coming up on a new contract. It could be a bidding war and his costs might rise dramatically.
2) Free Agent – If we cant sign him, we get a draft pick…but thats it. We’d still have to look for a replacement.
3) Glass body/Injury prone – well worn turf here. This season he’s kept it together.
4) A generally valued commodity – probably our best chance of getting something good back.
For me, the positives of keeping NJ outweigh the negatives…except, one key area: what we can get for him. If we can wrangle decent talent from a team – it might be worth it. And its clear from this
“…said to be asking high prices for the likes of Nick Johnson,”that Rizzo is driving a hard bargain. I dont disagree with Bowden (gulp!) that you dont move people for nothing. But Im firm believer that you do trade high…and NJ probably wont go higher. If he re-signs (and thats a big if), and plays well…he might go higher next year…but it assumes a team is comfortable with his contract, he is performing and he is healthy. Its a risk to us.
Surely the bottom line has to be: Top teir talent for NJ. If we get it – pull the trigger. If not, sign him. Otherwise, we could well be faced with a scenario where we have lost NJ for a sandwich pick (which is really only second round talent), and still have to find a decent 1B. I’d might be willing to put up with half a season of crap 1B play from a stand-in, if it means watching the DC version of Santana throw in a rotation for a few years…although that maybe optimistic.
What we dont want is NJ traded a la, Expos- for a handful of magic beans.
I still think this decision has to be Rizzo’s most important of the season.
"Baseball is like church. Many attend; few understand."
by Mezza on Jul 2, 2009 1:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rizzo 0-1 in most stories I've read, though I completely disagree until Lasto's legit in the majors...
“Glass body” heh…
What you can get for Nick if he signs elsewhere as a free agent will depend upon the mysterious grading process that labels free agents…
I’m much happier with Rizzo making trades, signing picks — talking to Boras and Strasburg…
Those magic beans held promise…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 2, 2009 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the lastro trade is likely to die…I swear in 2 seasons, no one will know Morgan, Milledge and/or Hanrahan. I put it in the Billy Bray category of trades that probably wont amount to much. But you never know.
Yea but even if he is a type A free agent…its 2 picks at the start of the second round (effectively). They can be good players but they arent major league ready for a few seasons. I just think if we get 1st round talent/MLB ready talent for NJ now via a trade, we would be ok…anything else seems like a step back.
hehe, who were your most promising magic beans? not that I want to relive any of those awful trades.
"Baseball is like church. Many attend; few understand."
by Mezza on Jul 2, 2009 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sunny Kim?
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 2, 2009 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MLBTraderumors.com's
Sent out of Montreal: Jason Bay, Brandon Phillips, Cliff Lee, Grady Sizemore…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 2, 2009 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The beans Minaya got back in return contained no magic...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 2, 2009 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gee, would have been nice to have Bay and Sizemore in the outfield about now…
"Baseball is like church. Many attend; few understand."
by Mezza on Jul 2, 2009 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was this trade one of the worst ever?
7/28/02: The big one: Acquired RHP Bartolo Colon and minor league RHP Tim Drew from Cleveland in exchange for 1B Lee Stevens, minor league SS Brandon Phillips, minor league LHP Cliff Lee and minor league OF Grady Sizemore. Even with the future of the franchise in question and a desire to win now, this was just too much to give up for Colon. You have to give this one to Mark Shapiro.
It’s got be ranked high… certainly worst in Nats/Expos history?
"Baseball is like church. Many attend; few understand."
by Mezza on Jul 2, 2009 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here are some others
lets hope we dont see any like this…
http://www.scoresreport.com/2008/07/31/the-10-worst-mlb-trades-of-the-last-10-years/
"Baseball is like church. Many attend; few understand."
by Mezza on Jul 2, 2009 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ew...forgot about this one
November 14, 2003: San Francisco Giants trade Joe Nathan, Francisco Liriano and Boof Bonser to the Minnesota Twins for A.J. Pierzynski.
It’s almost like: avert your eyes!
"Baseball is like church. Many attend; few understand."
by Mezza on Jul 2, 2009 2:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pierzinski has been mostly worth it!
Liriano has what half a decent season. His ERA right now is over 6! Nathan is a closer which is easier to find than a catcher that will play for 15 years and hit while doing it. You forget that quality catchers are really hard to find.
"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James
by PhDBrian on Jul 3, 2009 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think this one has more to run...
Nathan and Liriano will be back…if Liriano gets back to his best this is a dog (although take ur point not as much of a dog as before).
I found reading these were quite theraputic…nice to see other teams make bad decisions.
"Baseball is like church. Many attend; few understand."
by Mezza on Jul 3, 2009 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
its funny that Loaiza is in 2 of the deals
No one goes there anymore, it's too crowded. - Yogi Berra
by trademan56 on Jul 3, 2009 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In hindsite this was bad, but Colon was an ACE at the time
and the Expo’s badly needed an Ace pitcher.
"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James
by PhDBrian on Jul 3, 2009 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but
when they got him he wasnt ace like
No one goes there anymore, it's too crowded. - Yogi Berra
by trademan56 on Jul 3, 2009 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would say worse trrade in Nats/expos histoty
No one goes there anymore, it's too crowded. - Yogi Berra
by trademan56 on Jul 3, 2009 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone who wants to trade NJ has no clue what so ever about value
Yep I said it! Right now everyone thinks NJ is an injury risk, because of that tag we wont get anything near his true value out of any team. Once this season is over and he has played in 150 games then he will not be regarded as anywhere near the same injury risk. People will realize that his injuries were flukes (bad luck) and not in anyway career ending or lasting. Then next season he will be a type A guy worth twice what we could get this year, plus i suspect more of his power will return as well. Why not wait that year? Trust me I am a finance guy and I have a clue of how to figure out somethings intrinsic value and NJ is selling way to cheap right now. The smartest move is to resign him to a one year deal before the trade deadline and then watch his value go up up up over the next 12 months. Then trade him next season.
"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James
by PhDBrian on Jul 3, 2009 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trust me im a guy who works in risk management every day.
As I outlined in 1st post – its a risk in just signing him. There may not be a next season… which means a sandwich pick.
Its a risk if we do sign him and he gets hurt (although I also think those injuries were bad luck).
Where’s the value in those? You are right that signing him and trading next season is the best way to maximise value but it raises the risk that it can burn us badly as well. Without either of us knowing what on the table… if there were genuine prospects on the table, you’d have to consider dumping him now rather than hoping that we’d get better next season.
I guess that’s why you work in finance and I work in a risk-adverse industry… :)
"Baseball is like church. Many attend; few understand."
by Mezza on Jul 3, 2009 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NJ is no more of a risk than anyone else we put in there
"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James
by PhDBrian on Jul 3, 2009 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just think that if Rizzo passes on a trade of NJ for a genuine prospect – and NJ doesnt sign for next year… he looks like a complete goat. Sure, sandwich picks are ok and you get some minor league talent…but its not major league talent.
"Baseball is like church. Many attend; few understand."
by Mezza on Jul 3, 2009 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Jordan Zimmermann was a sandwich pick for Soriano. Not completely sure.
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 3, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They had so many picks that first round I never remember who were the Comp picks...
1. Ross Detwler -1st Rd.
2. Josh Smoker – Comp A
3. Michael Burgess – Comp A
4. Jordan Zimmermann – 2nd.
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 3, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
by the way
Having stalin and being in risk management makes you sound freaky
"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James
by PhDBrian on Jul 3, 2009 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
News of the Weird:
Joel Hanrahan, acquired from the Washington Nationals in the Nyjer Morgan/Sean Burnett trade, pitched one scoreless inning of relief.
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 2, 2009 8:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
HAN-RA-HAN!!! HAN-RA-HA...Oh he pitches for the Pirates now...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 2, 2009 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We could have used a scoreless inning ALL FREAKING SEASON, JOEL.
What’s done is dunn. (sic)
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 2, 2009 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As I recall, he pitched as much as 1.2 scoreless for us this year.
Just never when it mattered…
"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta
by Doghouse on Jul 2, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sigh NOW he does it
i wish him well and hope Burnett settles in. I thought it a little unfair of Manny to put him in to pitch after he had to get up at 4 to catch the flight south. Had he even had a chance to talk to Nieves? Looking forward to seeing Nyjer play tomorrow. and I think Zimmy needs a day off. those throws have gotten into his head.
by gengreen17 on Jul 2, 2009 9:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Johnson's value will bever be higher.
Except four weeks ago when he was still OBPing .440. Trade him NOW!!!
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Jul 2, 2009 10:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
TNJ
TNJ
Do you think he’d really want to sign with this club if he has offers from other teams this offseason? Be honest. I’d rather get to know 24 other people on a team that’s not the worst in baseball. Get value now.
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 2, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't you think if value was being offered he'd be gone by now?
Or are they waiting until they’re sure they’re out of the playoff picture?
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 2, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Playoff !! Playoff!!!
Next you’ll be talking about practice…
by Berndaddy on Jul 2, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Practice? We're talking about Practice?...Practice?"
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 2, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
injuries
his value can continue to go up as the days go by, due to injuries on other squads, and everyone looking at him have their own injury evaluations.
Boston: Depends on how long Lowell is out for, when Lowrie comes back (could play some 3B), content with Kotsay at 1B, and if Ortiz continues to hit (they could go after dunn)
Mets: Still evaluating Delgado
Also they could be waiting for a succession of deals that would make more sense, such as:
- Guz gets dealt god knows where (STL doesn’t need him any more)
then we would maybe need a SS if we are not content with Gonzo or Morse
- Boston trades for Dunn w/ Lugo and Bowman as part of the deal
- NJ then is traded on a needs basis, especially if SF is still in the hunt and really wants a bat or Delgado’s injury is worse than thought OR if Lowell is out for a prolonged time then boston would want NJ instead of Dunn
Throw in your hammer and beimel trades somewhere in there, and hopefully AK
by pas493 on Jul 2, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trade Nick
What’s the worst that could happen we watch bad baseball from our team?
TNJ = More of the same
TAK = No freaking way
TAD = I wish for a million dollars and a chocolate eclairs for everyone
TRV = For what a meat ball sandwich
TJT = For tons Scotch and J-LO
by Berndaddy on Jul 2, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mmmm eclairs...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 2, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What does DC get for Guzman?
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 2, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guzman !!!
TCG = TomarÃa una placa del arroz con pollo y plátanos fritos.. Me gusto mucho plátanos fritos….
by Berndaddy on Jul 2, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
YUM. Are we talking plantains and chicken with rice?
Lunch time.
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 2, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
!!! Si !!!
I love the caribean style chicken and rice with a hint of curry vs the Honduran/Spanish style I grew up with of course, But I think I could eat a tree of ripe plantains fried up and dipped into crema fresca. I can taste my Abuelitas freshly made cream, ummm I’m going to this Salvadorian restuarant Santa Maria Cafe in herndon for lunch now. It’s like home food. Darn I’m hungry…
by Berndaddy on Jul 2, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, who's this "Ed Chigliak" imposter?!
"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta
by Doghouse on Jul 2, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just notice Doghouse. He's putting in the extra d for what...eh...determined...
Yes, determined to have the best blog in Natstown.
by Berndaddy on Jul 2, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, NNN added Dave, too.
I’m going with the flow myself…
by Berndaddy on Jul 2, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's with all the updated names? Ed, Dave at NNN?
All we need is one win and the pink curly L is gone. I can’t stand looking at it. I have a picture of BEEFCAKE standing by for Friday night.
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 2, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I added a "D" to make it seem more legit(laughs)...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 2, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was gonna quote Hammer song, but didn't want to bother.
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 2, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please don't, he'll come looking for royalties...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 2, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How do you add, EC? I can't seem to change mine.
I’m not the sharpess technologically inclined tool in the box y’all, but I can teach you how to play i think four or five instruments in exchange.
by Berndaddy on Jul 2, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can get it done for you...just let me know what you want...
And have some of the entrees mentioned above overnighted to me…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 2, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually Whole Foods makes a good fried plantains.
It may be weird to dip it in fresh Central Am. style cream or sour cream if you have to, but the sour and sweet combo is good and good to good, eh.
I don’t need to change my handle it’s always been Berndaddy since my eldest son was born. I’ll keep it. (For fun I was going to change it very shortly to “Who’s your Berndaddy”. Sorry, Ed I’ll leave humor alone…
by Berndaddy on Jul 2, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wanted to add my name so that i don't get accused of "hiding behind my blog"
it’s a philosophical dilemma, and i choose to stand on the side of transparency. no judgment, just my thing.
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Jul 2, 2009 1:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oh, and TNJ
do it NOW!!!
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Jul 2, 2009 1:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If you keep it up with that TNJ stuff you'd better hide!!!
Did I sound tough there?
Give us a decent return and I understand dealing him…as much for Nick’s sake as anything else since he deserves a chance to play for a winner…
Just not the Mets…Please?
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 2, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What would you ask for? AA prospects or what? Middle infielders? More pitching? 1B?
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 2, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Parnell maybe Niese or Kunz from NYM
Bowden or Bard maybe Delcarmen from BOS
by pas493 on Jul 2, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They'd never give that would they? Realistically, I think a couple AA guys who we've scouted really hard and have MLB upside.
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 2, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mets had already considered giving us Parnell and definately Kunz, and Boston talked about shipping us Delcarmen. It just depends on how desperate they get around deadline and what their injury situations are. It also depends on the asking price for Huff and others.
Just a question to everyone saying trade him ASAP, who is going to play 1B? We have no one in line for the job, no one in the pipeline really, and not team is going to give up a viable 1B prospect.
After the deadline you could be looking at a lineup like this if we trade NJ
C- Bard/Nieves
1B- I don’t know, Casto?, Eldred? Marrerro?
2B- Hernandez, Morse
3B- Zim
SS- Gonzo, maybe Lugo if we get him for Dunn
OF- Morgan, Patterson, Maxwell, Dukes
by pas493 on Jul 2, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
May as well keep Kearns. Throw him in RF if we ever get an 8 or 9 run lead. This isn’t a major league caliber team anyway, so why worry who’s playing in August-September anyway.
I’d take Huff in a heartbeat over Nick. Power, catches pop flies. Can scoop. Mostly the power.
I just hope Rizzo doesn’t give players away for free. Dunn has to go. Hammer has to go. Nick has to go. Belliard needs to be released.
Can’t think right now. Work is a buzzkill.
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 2, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huff is good, but he can't sniff NJ's shoes!
They have nearly the same slugging percentage right now.
"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James
by PhDBrian on Jul 3, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just a question to everyone saying trade him ASAP, who is going to play 1B? We have no one in line for the job, no one in the pipeline really, and not team is going to give up a viable 1B prospect.
Short term, Dunn. If Dunn’s traded they either pick someone up in a trade or use a journeyman there since it’d be less than half the season.
Long term, the Nationals 2008 top ranked prospect is a first baseman. In between, hard to say but guys who can play first and pull their weight offensively aren’t that hard to find (which is part of the reason I think getting a decent first base prospect via trade is possible).
by David M. Getz on Jul 2, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At a pinch
We could play Belliard, Eldred, Dunn or maybe the Hammer at 1B… none would be as good but in the current climate im not sure that matters a whole lot.
"Baseball is like church. Many attend; few understand."
by Mezza on Jul 2, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we won't see Marrero here this year...
when they trade Johnson, it’ll be Dunn. and we’ll see an OF of Willingham-Morgan-Dukes, as long as something stupid hasn’t happened at that point.
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Jul 2, 2009 6:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe we'll have a shot at the Marlins sometime this year...
The Marlins have signed Luis Ayala, according to South Florida Sun Sentinel beat reporter Juan C. Rodriguez. Ayala was given his release earlier Thursday by the Twins.
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 2, 2009 10:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was sure he'd end up a Mariner...
I heard an interview with the Twins’ Manager Ron Gardenhire where he said Ayala asked out so he could go somewhere that he could pitch late in the game which he thought was better for his career, and Gardenhire basically said, if a player wants out, we’ll let him out, goodbye…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 2, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
High suck factor in that guy.
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 2, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That curly L has a high suck factor...makes me want the clowns back...Still love those nibblin' raccoons though...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 2, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All it takes is one win and the curly L is gone. I hate it but the team earned it. One stinking curly W...just one.
I see Amber at the Angels-Orioles game out west. So far, a decent game.
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 2, 2009 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mmm...Amber
When are we going to get a curly W again?
"Baseball is like church. Many attend; few understand."
by Mezza on Jul 2, 2009 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Friday night. No doubt. Book it. Earlier start. 6:30 eastern. Detwiler's first MLB victory.
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 3, 2009 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Will do
And Morgans first Nats hatrick of SBs!
"Baseball is like church. Many attend; few understand."
by Mezza on Jul 3, 2009 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't wait. We need to win Friday because we're facing Lowe and a guy with a sub 3 ERA after that.
Morgan wears the stirrups and wears the pants up high. Old school.
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 3, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Old School is kool
My kind of player. Need more old school players… bench clearing brawls, brush back pitches… not these pansy ass cookie cutters with no personality and ticker.
"Baseball is like church. Many attend; few understand."
by Mezza on Jul 3, 2009 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wont be Kearns or NJ
Kearns is a very good defensive OF who can get on base, but his salary of $8 million makes him very unlikely to move.
In addition, I pray daily that the nationals do not trade NJ but resign him for a year. My prayers just might be answered.
"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James
by PhDBrian on Jul 3, 2009 12:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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