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San Diego Padres at Washington Nationals, Jul 26, 2009 1:35 PM EDT



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San Diego Padres
@ Washington Nationals

Sunday, Jul 26, 2009, 1:35 PM EDT
Nationals Park

Chad Gaudin vs John "Cool Hand" Lannan

Partly cloudy,rain. Winds blowing out to center field at 10-15 m.p.h. Game time temperature around 85.

?'s For The DC Faithful...

• Are We Sure Clippard Can't Pitch Again?

• Will "Cool Hand" Handle It? 

• Will Nick Johnson Still Be A National At This Time Next Week?

• Can Zimmerman Hit Homers In 3-Straight?

• Do You Think Riggleman Yelled At Everyone After The Game Just Cause It Worked Friday Night?

DC Starting Lineup...(Courtesy of Washington Post writer Chico Harlan).

 

  1. TAWH - CF
  2. Nick "Two-Spot" Johnson - 1B
  3. THE KIDS CALL HIM ZIM!! - 3B
  4. The Big Slam - LF
  5. The Hammer - RF
  6. The Bard - C
  7. Alberto "The General" Gonzalez - SS
  8. Anderson "Oh Now He Plays" Hernandez - 2B
  9. John "Cool Hand" Lannan - Eating 40 Eggs.

 

LINKS:

What the Nationals Need to Do
Austin Kearns' approach, for what it's worth
Potomac Nationals Weekly Update: Washington Nationals' Prospect Danny Espinosa Interview.

Complete Coverage >


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Today's Starting Pitchers Are Going To Stare At You Now...(And We'll Hand Out The Award For Worst Goatee Ever...)


John "Cool Hand" Lannan

#31 / Pitcher / Washington Nationals

6-4

225

L

L

Sep 27, 1984

 

'09 Stats - (7-7, 3.38 ERA), 20 GS, 127.2 IP, 131 H, 55 R, 48 ER, 13 HR, 40 BB, 53 K's, , 1.34 WHIP, ERA+ = 127, 2.8 BB/9, 4.7 K/9, 1.33 K/BB, .271 BAA.

vs SD - (0-1, 2.08 ERA), 2 GS, 13.0 IP, 9 H, 6 R, 3 ER, 2 HR, 6 BB, 10 K's, 1.15 WHIP, .191 BAA.

Origin Story - Washington Nationals' 11th Round pick, 324th overall in 2005. 



Chad Gaudin

#49 / Pitcher / San Diego Padres

5-10

190

R

R

Mar 24, 1983

 

'09 Stats - (4-9, 4.82 ERA), 17 G, 16 GS, 93.1 IP, 85 H, 55 R, 50 ER, 6 HR, 50 BB, 96 K's, 1.45 WHIP, ERA+ = 78, 4.8 BB/9, 9.3 K/9, 1.92 K/BB, .242 BAA.

vs DC - (0-0, 27.00 ERA), 2.0 IP, 6 H, 6 ER, 2 BB, 3 K's, 4.00 WHIP, .500 BAA.

Origin Story - Tampa Bay Devil Rays' 34th Round pick, 1,009th overall in 2001 Draft. 12/12/04 - Traded by Tampa To Toronto For C Kevin Cash. 12/2/05 - Traded by the Blue Jays to the Oakland A's for OF Dustin Majewski - 7/8/08 -Traded by the Athletics to the Chicago Cubs with RHP Rick Harden for RHP Josh Donaldson, RHP Sean Gallagher, OF Matt Murton, IF/OF Eric Patterson.


More On The Matchup...

Chad Gaudin's (0-4) in July after winning his last two starts in June. The 26-year-old right-hander out of New Orleans, Louisiana has allowed 23 hits and 14 runs, 11 earned, in his last 22.2 IP. John "Cool Hand" Lannan's (2-2) in 4 July outings, but he's coming off his first career complete game shutout, having held the New York's (B-)Mets to just 7 hits in a 4-0 Nationals' win earlier in this homestand. A win will put Lannan back up a game over .500, and make him (6-2) since June.

The Homestand...

If you guessed 3 or possibly 4 out of 11 for the Nationals' record on the homestand, depending upon today's outcome you were right. The Nationals are 3 and 7 so far with one game left at home before they head out on a 6-game road trip to Milwaukee and Pittsburgh that will keep them away from Nationals Park until August 4th when they welcome the Florida Marlins to DC. Make sure you let all the Nationals know they're appreciated, this may be your last chance to do so in some cases...How about a standing "O" for Nick Johnson just in case. A round of applause for Josh Willingham for the work he's done? TAWH? Will he be amazing someone else soon? And what about Dunn? Can DC dare to trade the big bopper after a little over a half-a-season in DC? 

STRASBURG FILES...

Add this to the list of articles that are beginning to focus in on what could be a franchise breaking or making struggle to get the Washington Nationals' #1 overall picked locked up by the August 17th deadline. Boston.com writer Nick Carfado writes this morning, in an article entitled, "Different varieties in Apple":

"The Nationals continue on their journey to nowhere, which has been chronicled well. What they are now being scrutinized for is whether they can sign San Diego State pitching phenom Stephen Strasburg. While there’s some uneasiness that the sides haven’t held substantive talks, these deals can come together quickly."

It's only going to get worse as the deadline approaches, so prepare yourselves...

For A Padres Fan's Perspective, Check Out The SB Nation's San Diego Padres Blog:

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Nothing on radar.......

Chance of Rain 50%

A sticky, but thanks to mostly cloudy skies, not an unbearably hot day at the ballpark. After last night’s rain delay of more than three hours, we could see thunderstorms try to disrupt play again today.

"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo

by cat daddy3000 on Jul 26, 2009 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

John, checking in.

Hey cat daddy. What are our chances today?

I’d be a bit surprised if we lost. And that’s the first time I’ve ever said that.

by John Quinn on Jul 26, 2009 1:25 PM EDT reply actions  

I predict a series win, and it's not just because I think they'll win any day...

‘Cept that Randy Johnson start…I knew they’d lose that, facilitators of history that the Nationals are…

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

any day=every day...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here's hoping Willie Harris has a great game........

"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo

by cat daddy3000 on Jul 26, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

great game = showcase???

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah, just play well so he can be happy, too......

"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo

by cat daddy3000 on Jul 26, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Forever unsure about chances......I wish Riggles had played Morgan on Friday and given him a day off and benched Guz yesterday

We would be looking at a sweep today…….

"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo

by cat daddy3000 on Jul 26, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good chat with Burnett on MASN before the game.

If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman

by RoscoeNats on Jul 26, 2009 1:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I've got the lucky Montreal Royals cap on, DC assured a win...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 1:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Does that mean I need to don the Expos cap?

Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs

by Chris Pendley on Jul 26, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I found my old "Denny" Martinez baseball card. That's gotta be lucky.

If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman

by RoscoeNats on Jul 26, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Get them out, this could be the last week with an Expo on board...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your loyalty is like a light switch...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahaha

No no, I’m just kidding, it’ll take a lot more than that to get me off the DNTNJ bandwagon.

by John Quinn on Jul 26, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Double play coming up from Will "Double Play" Venable...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Lannan...fly ball machine in the first...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 1:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Dammit, John, find an archetype and stick to it!

I don’t care if you’re confusing the batters, how am I supposed to do stats?

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I prefer my heroes one-dimensional...

Dunn hits home runs.
Zim keeps his glove down.
Nick Johnson gets hurt a lot…

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Smoltz against the Orioles in Fenway on regular MASN. Good entertainment while the Southwest Air, Ford and Geico commercials ar eon MASN2

If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman

by RoscoeNats on Jul 26, 2009 1:45 PM EDT reply actions  

TAWWH is the leadoff baserunner!

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

TAWH passes leadoff audition, Morgan will now bat second...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Guz back to the 8-hole?

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Willie Harris thrown out, Nyjer Morgan retains leadoff spot for now...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently they're the same guy

Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs

by Chris Pendley on Jul 26, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guz will not swing from the 8-hole......

"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo

by cat daddy3000 on Jul 26, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Guz will not swing"... I don't understand what that phrase means...

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

There was that one PH(?) AB where he didn't swing and got his monthly walk.....

Before the yelling when he was a little moody…. Kinda like Manny R. before the trade..bat on shoulder, not gonna swing…

"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo

by cat daddy3000 on Jul 26, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

minus the talent

Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs

by Chris Pendley on Jul 26, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

So you're saying there's upside?

Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs

by Chris Pendley on Jul 26, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

We can look forward to a double-digit walk total!

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

How much longer is he under contract for?

Or do you mean just this year?

Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs

by Chris Pendley on Jul 26, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Morgans it up at 2B

If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman

by RoscoeNats on Jul 26, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gaudin's beard? Um. Maybe that sort of beard is normal out in California.

If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman

by RoscoeNats on Jul 26, 2009 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Was normal when Lincoln was President...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he breaks out in the cotton-eyed Joe dance....

If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman

by RoscoeNats on Jul 26, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Please tell me that wasn't a missed signal...

Willie CS… Missed H&R?

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Nick check chickened out of the hit and run?

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was Willie looking back as he ran?........... That's the tipoff....

"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo

by cat daddy3000 on Jul 26, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Willie Harris does not look back...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it was a hit & run.

If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman

by RoscoeNats on Jul 26, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

He did look toward home...

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder what's the Riggler success/fail rate on the hit and run?

"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo

by cat daddy3000 on Jul 26, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Success on the ones he called...

…or success on the ones the players have actually tried to execute?

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good point..... missed signal ratio needs to be factored in......

Was that a sign or is Listach just itchy????

"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo

by cat daddy3000 on Jul 26, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

HEADLINE: Unwashed jock causes miscommunication...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whoa.......please........

Our sound engineer used to get these signals from Kenny Loggins during the show, and he always wondered if he was supposed to bunt or steal second….

"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo

by cat daddy3000 on Jul 26, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope Tori Amos didn't give any bunt signs last night..

If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman

by RoscoeNats on Jul 26, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

The signals she sends out to her crowd are confusing...

At least to the guys…. The long dress kept it to a minimum this time….

"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo

by cat daddy3000 on Jul 26, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

My worries exactly....... the mention of missed signals, but no details of who missed what.....

and no benching to give a hint………

"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo

by cat daddy3000 on Jul 26, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

TAF™ through 1 is 1.3

That’s right, so far more awesome than suck.

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 1:56 PM EDT reply actions  

I know it’s still a work in progress, but can you give us any indication of how these stats are calculated? Perhaps we can help refine…

by John Quinn on Jul 26, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's basically like this...

…a counting stat: add up the good stuff, subtract all the bad stuff. A ratio stat is more appealing to my math side (good divided by bad, or vice-versa), but I think the straight adding-up of good and bad more closely mimics the “fan pain” aspect I’m trying to measure. The whole thing gets scaled by the ratio of the teams’ Win% (meaning TSF is higher against bad teams, but lower against good teams—it reverses for TAF, making it lower against bad teams and higher against good teams).

“Good things”
Own team: Walks, Runs, SB, HR, DP, PickOffs
Other team: Ks, CS, (RISP hits) – (RISP outs), Team LOB

“Bad things”
Own Team: CS, Team LOB, (RISP outs) – (RISP hits), Ks, Errors, PB, WP, GDPs,
Other team: Runs, Unearned Runs, Walks, HRs, PickOffs, SB

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I picture a chalkboard in a dusty room with papers strewn everyone, the tables, the floor...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

everyone = everywhere, i just missed an out...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does TAWH's 10-pitch walk have it more A than S...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmm... maybe a factor for pitches/PA?

I loves me some patient hitters.

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

But the CS more than cancels out the BB

If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman

by RoscoeNats on Jul 26, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, so far I haven't tried to weight events...

…stat wise I think CS = BB—it basically turns the lack-of-out into an out. Although as a fan, I think I’m more annoyed by the CS than I am pleased by the BB.

For instance, I’m up to TAF™ of 7.8 after 2 innings. I’m not feelling that the awesome is that high. I think I’m weighting opposing RISP performance too highly.

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Any way to incorporate leverage into the stats?

Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs

by Chris Pendley on Jul 26, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I've been toying with how to do that...

…in fact, I’ve been thinking about going to a straight WPA-based counting stat, but I have to figure a way to do it without just adding up to +1 or 0…

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Adjusting the magnitude of events should help.

The only obvious oversight I see in the stat right now is that leaving the bases loaded with two outs sucks equally in both cases, although it really doesn’t matter too much when the score is out of hand in either direction. I was just thinking weighting each event by multiplying the effect of the event by the LI score of the event.

Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs

by Chris Pendley on Jul 26, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's a BIG DONKEY at the plate...Gaudin is in trouble...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 2:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Adam Dunn grounds into the percentages...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 2:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Update on Drew Storen:

“Finally, 10th overall pick in the first round, ”http://masnsports.com/2009/07/storen-continues-to-dominate.html" >Drew Storen continues to dominate the minors.

In 13 combined appearances with Single-A Potomac and Single-A Hagerstown, Drew Storen has 31 strikeouts and no walks in 18 innings.

Storen has fanned 20 and allowed just one hit over 10 scoreless innings in his last seven games between Potomac and Hagerstown.

Prior to joining Potomac on July 19, the Stanford product struck out 26 and did not walk a batter in 14 2/3 innings, 11 games, with Hagerstown."

by John Quinn on Jul 26, 2009 2:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Bah, for whatever reason links don’t work when you use quotes, but here’s the link.

by John Quinn on Jul 26, 2009 2:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Amber is not on the MASN broadcast in Boston.

If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman

by RoscoeNats on Jul 26, 2009 2:11 PM EDT reply actions  

I've got the SD feed..I miss Deb...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who's their sideline reporter?

If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman

by RoscoeNats on Jul 26, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

None...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

At Nats Park...

Hope everyone wore their Sunday best! Sony is filming for an upcoming feature film today!

If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman

by RoscoeNats on Jul 26, 2009 2:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I question their judgment… why would they film at Nationals Park?

by John Quinn on Jul 26, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

They're filming a tragedy

Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs

by Chris Pendley on Jul 26, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Saga of the Unsigned #1 Draft Pick

Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs

by Chris Pendley on Jul 26, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lerner Memorial ASG, 2012....

Selig points at head….

"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo

by cat daddy3000 on Jul 26, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Odd years are in NL. Lucky '13

If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman

by RoscoeNats on Jul 26, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gammons got the year wrong?

"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo

by cat daddy3000 on Jul 26, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's a movie about a freaking relief pitcher on the Nationals...

If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman

by RoscoeNats on Jul 26, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, starring Owen Wilson, they filmed a while back too...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Drew Barrymore! Then were soliciting extras from season ticket holders.

Couldn’t get off work to audition…

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

A baseball-themed film with Drew Barrymore...that's original...

Someday my screenplay about a Teddy-Ruxpin-like talking-Samurai Teddy-Bear will get made…

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Elvis was alive all along, hidden on bench...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 2:15 PM EDT reply actions  

C'mon AH......... show Riggler how wrong he is.....

"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo

by cat daddy3000 on Jul 26, 2009 2:15 PM EDT reply actions  

utility inventory....

"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo

by cat daddy3000 on Jul 26, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

LANNAN SINGLES TO LEFT!!! He does it all...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Elvis, General? You looking?

If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman

by RoscoeNats on Jul 26, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Willie Harris wants to homer?

"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo

by cat daddy3000 on Jul 26, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Today is anniversary of John Lannan's debut...where he hit Utley and Howard and got run...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 2:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Is that right? It was on SD tv?

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

John Lannan: American Hero

Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs

by Chris Pendley on Jul 26, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

+2........... a little up and in.......heh, heh...

"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo

by cat daddy3000 on Jul 26, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

They were ruining Lannan's debut and deserved it...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Close.

They were ruining Lannan’s debut Phillies and deserved it…

Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs

by Chris Pendley on Jul 26, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll accept the edit...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

He wasn't actually throwing at either of them, though.

The home plate umpire had an itchy trigger finger, but both the beanings were nerves.

I remember going to a game he was pitching at against the Phillies a few weeks later and starting a “Where’s Chase Utley?” chant.

Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs

by Chris Pendley on Jul 26, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Manny argued.

If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman

by RoscoeNats on Jul 26, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Two-Spot" with two on, one out in the third...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 2:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Zim punched out looking, outside corner this time, got him inside first, next one, right down the middle...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Johnson flies out and it's time for a Zim Dinger...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kyle Blanks is just HUGE...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 2:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Lannan around 40 thru 4

Are you guys thinking what I’m thinking
also: Ross Detwiler looked really good last night. He struck out 5. He was really mixing from about 73-93. Bad start but he got thru 7 innings with only 2 runs.

by ryzim22 on Jul 26, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

To try to TAKE OVER THE WORLD?!

No. I have no idea what you’re talking about. AND NEITHER DO YOU, YOU DIRTY JINXER!!

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I wouldn't want you to jinx your lunch...

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Smoltz getting BOOOed by the Fenway folks. Down 4-0 early.

If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman

by RoscoeNats on Jul 26, 2009 2:28 PM EDT reply actions  

No respect...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Nats have broken his spirit.

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

ZIM(N)!!! THE LEGEND KILLER!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

TSF™ of 0.8 after 3...

The RISP failure burns!! (And I had the K-totals reversed in the earlier counts…)

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions  

RALLY INNING...starts with the leadoff DONKEY...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

...starts with the Hammer...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

BRIGITTE!

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

...starts with the 5th....

Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs

by Chris Pendley on Jul 26, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

6th?

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rally innings are only even numbered?

Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs

by Chris Pendley on Jul 26, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

uh...

starts in the bottom of the 5th

by martins on Jul 26, 2009 2:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Sad...

First baseman Dmitri Young, who has been rehabbing with Double-A Harrisburg, tore his left quad on July 19th and is out for the remainder of the season.

If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman

by RoscoeNats on Jul 26, 2009 2:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Aw...

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

BOOOOOOOO!!!! DY might be done...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could he be a coach in the future? Thoughts?

If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman

by RoscoeNats on Jul 26, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't be surprised.

Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs

by Chris Pendley on Jul 26, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

TSF™ up to 1.54

There may have to be some bonus awesomeness whenever Lannan pitches because, well, he’s awesome.

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 2:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Now it's groundball outs.

If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman

by RoscoeNats on Jul 26, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

For...

..was that THREE PITCHES?? There is definitely not enough awesome being counted for Lannan. Mrs. D is beside herself with the awesomeness on display there.

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

(whispers)..."ACE"....

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

4...Lannan with the four-pitch fifth...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

"The Nose rulez!!" sez Mrs. Doghouse.

“I need to online-shop,” she adds as she grabs her laptop, wanting to combine all possible good experiences in one big package of awesome.

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

TEDDY WINS!!! TEDDY WINS!!! UH, he was on a motorcycle and was disqualified...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 2:41 PM EDT reply actions  

TEDDY!!

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now for the Willie Harris walk and the inevitable let-down...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope, early let-down this time...

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

My future predicting abilities have disappeared...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

2-OUR SINGLE FOR...COOL HANDS!!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

"ARE YOU SERIOUS?!" yells Mrs D?

“Everyone else should be ashamed they can’t get a hit!” she adds.

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 2:45 PM EDT reply actions  

He said, "Natinals"...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

See, it's like "Nationals," with no 'O'.

And the ‘O’ is for “offense.” So, like, when they’re not scoring (that is, no “O” or “offense”), they’re the “Natinals,” instead of the “Nationals.” It’s a kind of math humor: Nationals – Offense = Natinals.

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

And there's no D in Nationals, either.

Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs

by Chris Pendley on Jul 26, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yet, but there's never been a D in... oh, right...

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

you know what they say

there is no “O” in Natinals

by ryzim22 on Jul 26, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who says that....(lowers eyes)...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

TSF™ up to 2.3

Am I not weighting defense enough? Maybe. Of course, as a fan, I don’t appreciate defense.

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

40/100!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

The problem is it's all judgment calls, and it's not like we have auto-updating UZR or plus-minus numbers

Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs

by Chris Pendley on Jul 26, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmm, maybe I should count the number of times Mrs D swears and subtract the number of times she cheers...

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean, I have no problem with the judgment call thing, but you have to be watching and/or scoring the game.

Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs

by Chris Pendley on Jul 26, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

baseball has become

too subjective in my opinion… thats why I like runs saved. Things either happen or they don’t.

by martins on Jul 26, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plus the judgement calls kind of defeat the purpose...

…of trying to create an “objective” measure of “that game sucked.”

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

But there's no objective measure of bad defense - other than errors, which I'm not a fan of using on their own - that updates during a game.

I suspect adding D would help (right now, there’s no way to really measure something like “Dunn has the range of a Weeble in the OF”), but I just don’t know how.

Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs

by Chris Pendley on Jul 26, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the "playing an out into a double without an actual error" thing...

…that’s definitely a “that sucks” moment for a fan, but it’s not easy to measure without either counting up the times you yell “YOU SUCK DUNN!” or trying to compare UZR game-over-game.

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's why we have misplays

in the runs saved metric… it is objective.

Each outcome on the basepath generates a probability that will score runs. For example a man on first and no out leads to .900 runs… or a little less than 1 run. Now, lets say Dunn misplays a ball that allows runners to get to 2nd and 3rd with no one out… that situation is worth 2.006 runs.

So you take the situation we have (2.006)
subtract it from the situation we had(.900)
and thats how many runs adam dunn cost the team on that play

2.006-.900=1.106 runs on that play

by martins on Jul 26, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, using expected runs as a metric works well.

That – coupled with the LI thing – would help a ton.

Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs

by Chris Pendley on Jul 26, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea, i find it works really well

makes the most sense, perfectly logical and reasonable, I think its the best tool we have for measuring defense

by martins on Jul 26, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think where we're getting hung up is where to determine if Dunn / someone misplayed a ball, though.

At least a way that’s not subjective. For example, that Willingham play was tough, but I’m not sure that I’d count it against him.

Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs

by Chris Pendley on Jul 26, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

well you have to

because he let the ball get behind him… which led to runners advance.

Totally objective.

The ball got behind him, runners moved up… more runs expected.

by martins on Jul 26, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

But was it above-and-beyond a bad play?

That’s the distinction I was trying to draw.

Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs

by Chris Pendley on Jul 26, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

from this perspective

i’m not sure that’s relevant. Don’t get me wrong, I totally get what you’re saying… you want to give him a break for degree of difficulty

but the bottom line is, his actions led to something that was detremental to the team….

tough, but fair I think

by martins on Jul 26, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but TSF™ isn't a "fair" measure.

It’s a “drunk guy yelling in the stands” measure.

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe a faster outfield cuts it off or even catches it...

…but on the replay, it was just beyond his outstretched glove, even laid-out. That ball was going to the wall no matter what he did.

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's kind of my thought.

I don’t think that was “in his zone”, as it were. As such, it sucks but it doesn’t suck more than it would’ve otherwise.

Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs

by Chris Pendley on Jul 26, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats defenetly possible

but need to strictly adhere to the objective standards… if he dosent dive and miss it, he gets to the ball quciker, saves the run expectancy

by martins on Jul 26, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it bounces off the wall whether or not he dives for it.

And I think since we’re at five or six comments on this, the play qualifies as subjective. :)

Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs

by Chris Pendley on Jul 26, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

could be

but we have to judge it as we would anyother play of that magnatitude, cant worry about what may have happened.. only what did happen

ha, its defenetly tough to divorce yourself from possibility but I think its better for the game if we do

by martins on Jul 26, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's the "suck" part that's hard to de-convolve from the objective measure.

In the opposed case, the “suck” comes from the balance of the opposing team being skillfull/lucky and our team being bad. Someone getting a legit gapper vs. a “Dunn double” makes all the difference in the fan perception of suckitude.

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Cool Hand" back on the hill...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 2:48 PM EDT reply actions  

john lannon

en route to a 90 pitch complete game

by martins on Jul 26, 2009 2:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Ridiculous stat: John just went to a 2-ball count for the first time today...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 2:49 PM EDT reply actions  

It's still not gonna get them a web gem...

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can tell they practice..."Watch this Hammer... Toepick!"...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHat is this, Blades of Glory?

If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman

by RoscoeNats on Jul 26, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Cutting Edge"?

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

"You've Been Served?"

Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs

by Chris Pendley on Jul 26, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uh-oh, diving hammer misses a Kouzmanoff fly and Venable scores, 1-0 Friars...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 2:54 PM EDT reply actions  

BOOOOOOOOOOO!

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lack of run support = BOOOOOOOOO!

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nick, Zim and Dunn...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

NIck flies out, Zim WILL NOT K...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, fly out.

Is it me, or is Gaudin’s strike zone the size of dump truck?

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Umpire likes beards more than eyebrows

If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman

by RoscoeNats on Jul 26, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

BOOOOOO!

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

DONKEY BALL!!

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I might settle for a walk.

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

You'll get a groundout and like it...

Sorry, I got a little of the Riggle in me and started yelling…

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last night's big win glow is fading in the Sunday sun...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions  

We need some RALLY TIME.

TSF™ is 3.1

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uh...Doghouse?

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Team Suck Factor"

It’s my constantly-changing effort to measure the level of torture in the Nationals fan experience. (When it’s good, it becomes the “Team Awesome Factor.”)

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

1 pitch, 1 out. Lannan is economical...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

1 lousy run the only thing keeping Lannan from going above .500 again...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Leave Lannan in!" demands Mrs. D, "He's the only one who's been getting on base!"

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 3:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Got to get to him, or he'll be back...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's only at 69 pitches. No sense getting rid of him yet.

Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs

by Chris Pendley on Jul 26, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Mr. Solo" as Bob calls him, heh

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

14 homers......31 RBIs.....two more solos and nothing else and he's still on pace for history...

Homers x 2 > RBIs…..

"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo

by cat daddy3000 on Jul 26, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

STOP! HAMMER TIME!

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 3:13 PM EDT reply actions  

STOP!! HAMMER TIME!!! DEEEEEP TO LEFT AND GONE!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:13 PM EDT reply actions  

That's what I'm talkin about.

If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman

by RoscoeNats on Jul 26, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

See that Tigers!!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know who wants Willingham anymore?

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I want him

Dont trade anyone except for the 2nd basecrew or any bullpen members

by ryzim22 on Jul 26, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I haven't seen Nats mentioned in trade talk for days.

If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman

by RoscoeNats on Jul 26, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nothing new at least...RZO???

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the Nats are overpricing all available players.

If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman

by RoscoeNats on Jul 26, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs

by Chris Pendley on Jul 26, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not buyers...unless they want to load up to avoid beating last year's loss total...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Texas Rangers want a RHB........

"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo

by cat daddy3000 on Jul 26, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hammer ties it.......

"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo

by cat daddy3000 on Jul 26, 2009 3:13 PM EDT reply actions  

AH with a redeeming chance with one on.........

"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo

by cat daddy3000 on Jul 26, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, the DP is teh suxx0r, but Lannan stays in...

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 3:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Riggles is right about that guy,,,,,,,,

"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo

by cat daddy3000 on Jul 26, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Way to seize the day, Elvis...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Practice?

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

They said hes been practicing with Grissom

Wait, Are you talkin’ about practice? Practice?

by ryzim22 on Jul 26, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gaudin is out of the game.

If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman

by RoscoeNats on Jul 26, 2009 3:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Dunn catches a gapper?

Mrs Doghouse is giggling.

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 3:20 PM EDT reply actions  

TSF™ is down to 2.3 after 7...

DINGERZ > GDP…

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Galloping Donkey gets to it...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

And MissB is happy.

Go Big Donkey!

A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright

by MissB on Jul 26, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Get 'R Dunn!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Howdy MissB.

If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman

by RoscoeNats on Jul 26, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Howdy Roscoe et al

Congratulations to Ricky Henderson, HOFer and the greatest lead-off hitter evah.
¡felicidades! to Alberto Contador, 2009 Tour de France winner and best climber in the world.

by MissB on Jul 26, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh noes? A leadoff walk...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:21 PM EDT reply actions  

one out walk...still oh noes...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

WALK?!

Pull him!

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 3:21 PM EDT reply actions  

PUT VENABLE AWAY, COOL HAND!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, Gaudin's zone was much bigger than Lannan's is right now.

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 3:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Lannan getting that pissy look on his face won't help anything. OOH PICKOFF

If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman

by RoscoeNats on Jul 26, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

SIT DOWN CABRERA!! PICKED OFF!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

PICK'D!!

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 3:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, that'll fix the TSF.

Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs

by Chris Pendley on Jul 26, 2009 3:24 PM EDT reply actions  

PICKOFFS = MORE AWESOME!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

LANNAN GETS VENABLE TO CHASE!! 1-RUN AND THEN THE MAC!!! C'MON DC!!!

LET’S GO NATS GO!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Lannan does it ALL!

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Morgan on for Lannan...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's teh Clozer?

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

TSF™ down to 1.5...

PO + K > BB!

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

, riggles

I dont really think that Riggles will pinch hit himself

by ryzim22 on Jul 26, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

81-ish, don't know if it updated...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, 81 through 8...

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Come on fellers. Get a run off the Padres pen.

If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman

by RoscoeNats on Jul 26, 2009 3:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Nyjer Morgan on to face Greg Gregorson...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

The ump got money on this game?

That strike zone is ridonkulously biased.

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 3:30 PM EDT reply actions  

this is more of that

rediculous subjectivity… the strikezone is right in front of you… it has parameters… on the plate is a strike, off is a ball. Where does the interpretation part come in?

by martins on Jul 26, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I want a buzzer with lights that go off for strikes!! Big "UUUUUUUHHHH" for balls...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't forget the holographic bullseye in CF!

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

+10 RUNS!!! +100 POINTS!! 3 EXTRA LIVES!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Scott Pilgrim Baseball!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

DONKEY POWERUP!!

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

up up down down left right left right b a start

Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs

by Chris Pendley on Jul 26, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, but THIS we can actually measure--

—get the pitch f/x data, plot it against a strike zone box, and see if it’s different for us and them. No, I don’t know how to do this offhand…

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea i hear ya

I was just talking about the whole “every umpire has his own strikezone” nonsense

by martins on Jul 26, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, yeah, that's total nonsense.

It should be the same for vets and rookies, AL/NL, home and away, good teams and bad.

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I read up on pitch f/x yesterday...

They calibrate the players’ sizes in batting practice. Three cameras throughout the stadium 120 feet high. Incredible concept.

If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman

by RoscoeNats on Jul 26, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

TAWH! RALLY CAPS ON!

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 3:30 PM EDT reply actions  

TAWH lines a single to right in front of "Two-Spot"!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

OHHHHHHHH, I LIKE.

It’s so muchnicer when the other team makes an error.

Congratulations to Ricky Henderson, HOFer and the greatest lead-off hitter evah.
¡felicidades! to Alberto Contador, 2009 Tour de France winner and best climber in the world.

by MissB on Jul 26, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

WILLIE HITS A SINGLE

I LIKE HOW THE NATS MAKE AN EFFORT TO PLAY MJ MUSIC

by ryzim22 on Jul 26, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thrillie!

Congratulations to Ricky Henderson, HOFer and the greatest lead-off hitter evah.
¡felicidades! to Alberto Contador, 2009 Tour de France winner and best climber in the world.

by MissB on Jul 26, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

OOPS, THRILLIE!

RALLY CAPS LOCK.

Congratulations to Ricky Henderson, HOFer and the greatest lead-off hitter evah.
¡felicidades! to Alberto Contador, 2009 Tour de France winner and best climber in the world.

by MissB on Jul 26, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

YEAH, THATS RIGHT

YOU TOO NATIONALS CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OTHER TEAMS ERRORS

by ryzim22 on Jul 26, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

TWO SPOT!! KEEP THE RALLY GOING!!

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 3:34 PM EDT reply actions  

DROPPED DP SHOVEL!!

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ahhh!!! THEY MADE THE ERROR THIS TIME!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

(whispers) "Don't give them a second chance, Zim!!"

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

(Whispers) Don't do that other thing you do...

Congratulations to Ricky Henderson, HOFer and the greatest lead-off hitter evah.
¡felicidades! to Alberto Contador, 2009 Tour de France winner and best climber in the world.

by MissB on Jul 26, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bat toss?

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

(whispers lower) GIDP

Congratulations to Ricky Henderson, HOFer and the greatest lead-off hitter evah.
¡felicidades! to Alberto Contador, 2009 Tour de France winner and best climber in the world.

by MissB on Jul 26, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

(ASL) quiet, you jinxer!!

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh, golden sombrero for Zim...

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

DONKEY BALL!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

YAAAAAAAYYYYYYY! BIG DONKEY!!!!

Congratulations to Ricky Henderson, HOFer and the greatest lead-off hitter evah.
¡felicidades! to Alberto Contador, 2009 Tour de France winner and best climber in the world.

by MissB on Jul 26, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

DONKEY!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

get this bum off my team

im tired of him getting hits in big spots…

TAD

by martins on Jul 26, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, he didn't GIDP, did he?

I unjinxed the Nats!

Congratulations to Ricky Henderson, HOFer and the greatest lead-off hitter evah.
¡felicidades! to Alberto Contador, 2009 Tour de France winner and best climber in the world.

by MissB on Jul 26, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

2-1 NATS

WOOOOOOHOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

by ryzim22 on Jul 26, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

With a single? Keep DONKEY!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't get cocky! ;)

Better make some pastries, just to be safe.

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Too hot for baking...

best I can do is sorbet at this point.

Congratulations to Ricky Henderson, HOFer and the greatest lead-off hitter evah.
¡felicidades! to Alberto Contador, 2009 Tour de France winner and best climber in the world.

by MissB on Jul 26, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ooh, I think the Jinx Gods like frozen treats even better!

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

K?

"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James

by PhDBrian on Jul 26, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

ZIM-MER-MAN! ZIM-MER-MAN!! ZIM-MER-MAN!!!

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 3:36 PM EDT reply actions  

3rd BACKWARDS K!! SAY IT AIN'T SO ZIM!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'M CALLING DONKEY BALL!!

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

face of the franchise

indeed :(

dammit I want him to do well.

by chem on Jul 26, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

DONKEY DOES IT!! DONKEY DOES IT! WITH A SINGLE!!! 2-1 DC!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

DINKERZ!!!

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

"HECK NO!" he didn't try to do it...

I think he did!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dunn = Clutch.......... for once...

"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo

by cat daddy3000 on Jul 26, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hammer does not improve his RISP stats........

There will be no trading…….

"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo

by cat daddy3000 on Jul 26, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

for once?

the gamelog would like a word with you

by martins on Jul 26, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last night didn't count........ stat paddin'.......

"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo

by cat daddy3000 on Jul 26, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

2-1

Yipee

"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James

by PhDBrian on Jul 26, 2009 3:40 PM EDT reply actions  

DONKEY GROUNDER FOR THE LEAD.

If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman

by RoscoeNats on Jul 26, 2009 3:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Adrian Gonzalez to pinch hit in the 9th?

If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman

by RoscoeNats on Jul 26, 2009 3:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Already in game as defensive replacement...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Due up fourth...

Meaning he’ll never get up, of course…

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

McDoody in for the 9th...

Congratulations to Ricky Henderson, HOFer and the greatest lead-off hitter evah.
¡felicidades! to Alberto Contador, 2009 Tour de France winner and best climber in the world.

by MissB on Jul 26, 2009 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

MAC DOO!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

bless you

If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman

by RoscoeNats on Jul 26, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

That fastball just jumped down..

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm thinking Howdy Doody

Congratulations to Ricky Henderson, HOFer and the greatest lead-off hitter evah.
¡felicidades! to Alberto Contador, 2009 Tour de France winner and best climber in the world.

by MissB on Jul 26, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

MY PREDICTION

MACDOUGAL WILL SAVE THIS GAME BUT IN THE ATTEMPT THROW MORE PITCHES THAN LANNAN DID THRU 8

by ryzim22 on Jul 26, 2009 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

TSF™ needs some work...

…currently 3.9. All the LOB and RISP failures are outweighing the actual winning part.

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

SWINGING K!! SIT DOWN HEADLEY!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

ONE!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is there a "win/loss" variable?

If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman

by RoscoeNats on Jul 26, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not yet...

It might be a flat bonus, or just rounding up to zero (a win can never suck).

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

MACDOOOOODY LOOKED TOTALLY RELIEVED AFTER THAT HACK!

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 3:46 PM EDT reply actions  

2 DOWN

1 OUT AWAY FROM A SERIES WIN

by ryzim22 on Jul 26, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

THAT'S TWO!!

C’MON MACDOOOOOODY!!

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

DOODLE! (clapclap!) DOODLE!! (Clapclap) Anderson "The Outfielder" Hernandez makes the catch...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

DAMMIT

If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman

by RoscoeNats on Jul 26, 2009 3:48 PM EDT reply actions  

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO !!!!!!!!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:48 PM EDT reply actions  

WOW. SUCK!!!!

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 3:48 PM EDT reply actions  

OH, NO HE DIDN'T, DID HE?

Congratulations to Ricky Henderson, HOFer and the greatest lead-off hitter evah.
¡felicidades! to Alberto Contador, 2009 Tour de France winner and best climber in the world.

by MissB on Jul 26, 2009 3:48 PM EDT reply actions  

MacDougal gets a McChatty...

This McChatty Is Brought To You By Federal Baseball.com.

Federal Baseball.com: Where Closers Have Been “Making It Interesting” For Years…

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

teh suxx0rest part is that Lannan isn't up for the win now...

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gee thanks Doodle...... BS...

"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo

by cat daddy3000 on Jul 26, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clarabelle and Buffalo are NOT HAPPY

Congratulations to Ricky Henderson, HOFer and the greatest lead-off hitter evah.
¡felicidades! to Alberto Contador, 2009 Tour de France winner and best climber in the world.

by MissB on Jul 26, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mr. Moose is coming over with a bat to take out Doodle with extreme hilarity...

Let the puppets sort it out… different show, I know….

"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo

by cat daddy3000 on Jul 26, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

ONE OF US! ONE OF US!

Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs

by Chris Pendley on Jul 26, 2009 3:48 PM EDT reply actions  

MCCHATTY TIME...

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 3:49 PM EDT reply actions  

.191 hitter.......Wily Mo Blanks...

"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo

by cat daddy3000 on Jul 26, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

VULTURE!!!

I’ll take the walk-off…Mike Adams is nasty though…

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bard, AG, and AH............ AH =Hero????

"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo

by cat daddy3000 on Jul 26, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unlikely.

If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman

by RoscoeNats on Jul 26, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Put on your glasses...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

AH = OF...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

HE HAD THE SWING, BUT NOT THE PITCH...

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

LET'S GO BRIGITTE!

RALLY TIME!!

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 3:54 PM EDT reply actions  

I wonder if Mr. Riggles calls him "Bardo" like Manny did...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bar-Doh!

Congratulations to Ricky Henderson, HOFer and the greatest lead-off hitter evah.
¡felicidades! to Alberto Contador, 2009 Tour de France winner and best climber in the world.

by MissB on Jul 26, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah......... playing for the defensive win....

"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo

by cat daddy3000 on Jul 26, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Help us, A-Hands, you're our only hope...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 3:58 PM EDT reply actions  

NATSTOWN™ = ALDERAAN?

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Post-Uncle-Owen...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah, Alderaan's too composed to qualify as NatsTown.

It’s more like Hoth.

Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs

by Chris Pendley on Jul 26, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hacking, sir.......

"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo

by cat daddy3000 on Jul 26, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

FREE BASEBALL!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 4:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Coupled with the game last night, the kids have got to be tired.

Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs

by Chris Pendley on Jul 26, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

More like Velveeta time.

Congratulations to Ricky Henderson, HOFer and the greatest lead-off hitter evah.
¡felicidades! to Alberto Contador, 2009 Tour de France winner and best climber in the world.

by MissB on Jul 26, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

TSF™ = 3.9

I missed some opposing LOB/RISP failures last inning.

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Goat Probability Quotient?

"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo

by cat daddy3000 on Jul 26, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

High, I fear.

Congratulations to Ricky Henderson, HOFer and the greatest lead-off hitter evah.
¡felicidades! to Alberto Contador, 2009 Tour de France winner and best climber in the world.

by MissB on Jul 26, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

HMMMM... STEVEN...

DREW STOREN WASNT A BRAT AND SIGNED AND IS DOING WELL

by ryzim22 on Jul 26, 2009 4:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Make up for it MacDougal...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 4:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Anyone warming?

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

And that's it for McDoooooody...

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was hoping for a Lannan-like 10th from MacDougal, but no...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Riggler needed someone who could hit a single....... oh, right....

"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo

by cat daddy3000 on Jul 26, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beimel starts Drew Macias 2-0...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beimel gets it done....

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

WALK-OFF COMING...NOW!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

NOW LET'S FINISH THIS UP RIGHT!

LET’S GO NATS GO!!

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Beimel's out of this inning..

Congratulations to Ricky Henderson, HOFer and the greatest lead-off hitter evah.
¡felicidades! to Alberto Contador, 2009 Tour de France winner and best climber in the world.

by MissB on Jul 26, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

NOTONLYRALLYCAPSLOCKBUTNOSPACESALSO

Congratulations to Ricky Henderson, HOFer and the greatest lead-off hitter evah.
¡felicidades! to Alberto Contador, 2009 Tour de France winner and best climber in the world.

by MissB on Jul 26, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

AAAAAH!!NOSPACESMAKESMYEYESBLEED!!!

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

QUIET RIOT! WOO!

It feels like I’m watching hockey again!

Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs

by Chris Pendley on Jul 26, 2009 4:12 PM EDT reply actions  

NYJER!!! LEADOFF BUNT SINGLE!!!!!

MOAR EXCLAMATION POINTZ!!!!!!!!!!

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

NMIMH!!!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 4:13 PM EDT reply actions  

NYJERMORGANISMYHERO!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

MINEALSOGONYGERGO

Congratulations to Ricky Henderson, HOFer and the greatest lead-off hitter evah.
¡felicidades! to Alberto Contador, 2009 Tour de France winner and best climber in the world.

by MissB on Jul 26, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

NYJER MORGAN WILL BE ON SECOND IN A MINUTE...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

GET THAT PITCHER RATTTLED!

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

HE'S GOT MORGAN ON THE MIND!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

SAC BUNT FROM TAWH MOVES MORGAN TO SECOND!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

ITS ONLY FITTING ON RICKY'S HOF DAY

Congratulations to Ricky Henderson, HOFer and the greatest lead-off hitter evah.
¡felicidades! to Alberto Contador, 2009 Tour de France winner and best climber in the world.

by MissB on Jul 26, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

(Whispers) When did Ricky start looking so old?

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is old

Congratulations to Ricky Henderson, HOFer and the greatest lead-off hitter evah.
¡felicidades! to Alberto Contador, 2009 Tour de France winner and best climber in the world.

by MissB on Jul 26, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

as fast as he is

it’s almost not even worth it to send him… he dosent even make it 70 pct of the time? that’s a lot of outs the guy runs into…

by martins on Jul 26, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sac bunt

Wow, this is beginning to look like baseball….

by natsfaithful on Jul 26, 2009 4:18 PM EDT reply actions  

I normally don't like teh smal bal, but when you only need one... play for one...

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Win probability just took a dip at fangraphs......

"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo

by cat daddy3000 on Jul 26, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

1st base / no outs has a slightly higher run state than 2nd base / 1 out.

Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs

by Chris Pendley on Jul 26, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly fellas

good job outta yous(too rob an expression from the mad dog)

by martins on Jul 26, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Although I wonder what the distribution is?

Some of that comes from the chance to score >1 run. What you really want to compare are the odds of scoring more than zero runs—the higher-run-expectancy state might also have a higher chance of not getting any runs at all.

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, crap, did I just create more work for myself?

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably.

Even the guys in The Book basically said the sac bunt was a game theory thing half the time.

Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs

by Chris Pendley on Jul 26, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

the numbers

man on 1st no out= .900 runs expected

man on 2nd one out= .695 runs expected

by martins on Jul 26, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

And expectancy with Kearns at the plate?...... Bluegrass = Blue Moon....

"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo

by cat daddy3000 on Jul 26, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Blue Moon is delicious.

It’s often my beer of choice at the ballpark. Quite enjoyable on a muggy DC day…

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

MORGAN IN SCORING POSITION!

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 4:18 PM EDT reply actions  

C'MON NOW NICK!!! JUST A SINGLE THOUGH, DON'T WANT TO STAND OUT....

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

NICK GETS THE INTENTIONALS AND THE FOF IS UP WITH TWO ON, ONE OUT!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

THEY'RE PITCHING TO NJ?

INSTEAD OF K-PRONE, GDP-PRONE ZIMMY?

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 4:19 PM EDT reply actions  

HEH, ON SECOND THOUGHT...

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't be a goat, Zim.......

"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo

by cat daddy3000 on Jul 26, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

NO K'S ZIM!!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

At least it wasn't a DP

If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman

by RoscoeNats on Jul 26, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't leave it up to Dun........... oh no......... DO IT NOW, ZIM!!!!

"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo

by cat daddy3000 on Jul 26, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is why

i dont like it…

well that and im giving away an out

by martins on Jul 26, 2009 4:19 PM EDT reply actions  

ZIM-MER-MAN! ZIM-MER-MAN! ZIM-MER-MAN!

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

+ ZIM-MER-MAN!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

AT LEAST IT WASN'T THE USUAL GIDP

Congratulations to Ricky Henderson, HOFer and the greatest lead-off hitter evah.
¡felicidades! to Alberto Contador, 2009 Tour de France winner and best climber in the world.

by MissB on Jul 26, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

AK = HERO!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

BLUE-GRASS!! (clapclap)!!! BLUE-GRASS!!! DOES IT!!!!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

AK!!! AK!! AK!! AK!!! AK!!! AK!!! AK!!! AK!!! AK!! AK!! AK!! AK!! AK!! AK!! AK!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not reading your game report.......

"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo

by cat daddy3000 on Jul 26, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why? No Kearns love for you?

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

[goes to put AK Fan Club membership card back in wallet...]

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

TAKE THAT BABY OUT OF THE DRAWER!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

See, you both will be insufferable now....

DWHHT…… no wait……. Guz!!!…… um…. Belli!!!!…….accckkkkk!!!!!!

"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo

by cat daddy3000 on Jul 26, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kearns up to win the game.

If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman

by RoscoeNats on Jul 26, 2009 4:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Now the baby raccoons are crying..............

"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo

by cat daddy3000 on Jul 26, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mrs D is a little teary, too...

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

With joy, right?

Congratulations to Ricky Henderson, HOFer and the greatest lead-off hitter evah.
¡felicidades! to Alberto Contador, 2009 Tour de France winner and best climber in the world.

by MissB on Jul 26, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Aw, AK is a little verklempt!

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know, I know....

Mr. Totally Boring had a little quaver in his voice and tiny little lip tremble.

Congratulations to Ricky Henderson, HOFer and the greatest lead-off hitter evah.
¡felicidades! to Alberto Contador, 2009 Tour de France winner and best climber in the world.

by MissB on Jul 26, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Small Ball worked.

If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman

by RoscoeNats on Jul 26, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

To be fair, Big might have, too...

Nyjer probably scores on a double from first.

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

But, it took the TAWH double play opp. out of play.

If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman

by RoscoeNats on Jul 26, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

but

you have a higher probability of scoring a run leaving the guy on first with no one out

by martins on Jul 26, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't care. It worked today. WooHoo

If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman

by RoscoeNats on Jul 26, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I guess Nyjer's hammy wasn't too too bad.

If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman

by RoscoeNats on Jul 26, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

http://www.fangraphs.com/livewins.aspx?gameid=290726120

"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo

by cat daddy3000 on Jul 26, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

You have a higher run expectancy, not necessarily a higher probability of scoring at least one run...

…although you may also have a higher probability of scoring at least one run. I need to do the math.

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Although someone else may have already...

…in which case, linkz plz!

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

i admit

im not the greatest mathematical mind… how can you have a lower propbability with a higher expectancy?

by martins on Jul 26, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's like this:

Suppose that in state one, you score 10 runs 10% of the time. Your run expectancy is 1.0, but you score at least one run only 10% of the time.
Suppose that in state two, you score 1 run 50% of the time. Your run expectancy is 0.5, but you score at least one run 50% of the time.
The run expectancy for state one is twice as good as state two—but state two is four times as likely to get you at least one run.
This is an extreme example to illustrate the idea. The actual difference between 1—/0 out and 2/1 out is not going to be that skewed, and it may turn out that you still get a higher chance of scoring at least one run in the 1—/0 out case.

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

understood

but if there is a descrepency in probability and expectancy… on which do we rely? It would seem to me that expectancy is the way to go.

no?

by martins on Jul 26, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

They say if you make them suffer first, it doesn't count....

"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo

by cat daddy3000 on Jul 26, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

O.M.G, O.M.G., O.M.G.!!!!!!!!

wHO WOULD HAVE, COULD HAVE PREDICTED THIS?

Congratulations to Ricky Henderson, HOFer and the greatest lead-off hitter evah.
¡felicidades! to Alberto Contador, 2009 Tour de France winner and best climber in the world.

by MissB on Jul 26, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

AK!! AK!! AK! AK!! AK!! AK!!! AK!!! AK!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently ryzim22...

…although I can never tell when he’s joking…

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

BLUGRASS!!!!!

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 4:23 PM EDT reply actions  

KEARNS!

Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs

by Chris Pendley on Jul 26, 2009 4:23 PM EDT reply actions  

BREAK-UP THE NATIONALS!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rizzo's on the phone as we speak......... heh....

"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo

by cat daddy3000 on Jul 26, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Please!

Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs

by Chris Pendley on Jul 26, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tickets to Detroit, Dallas, and parts West at the will call window....

"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo

by cat daddy3000 on Jul 26, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm loving it.

If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman

by RoscoeNats on Jul 26, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

kearns?

is it time to take the pejorative away?

by martins on Jul 26, 2009 4:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Now to play 4 in Milwaukee.

If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman

by RoscoeNats on Jul 26, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know this is total heresy, but....

i hope I get to see Trevor Hoffman at least once for the save.
All high kick and Hells Bells.

Congratulations to Ricky Henderson, HOFer and the greatest lead-off hitter evah.
¡felicidades! to Alberto Contador, 2009 Tour de France winner and best climber in the world.

by MissB on Jul 26, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

He can come in for a save...you can see him...and maybe he'll blow it.

Best of both worlds.

If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman

by RoscoeNats on Jul 26, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not quite good enough.

I really, really liked watching him workwhen I lived in San Diego. And I’m still sad they didn’t match Milwaukee’s offer for his this year.
(Damn John Moores’ wife. He must have dumped her for a young blond.)

Congratulations to Ricky Henderson, HOFer and the greatest lead-off hitter evah.
¡felicidades! to Alberto Contador, 2009 Tour de France winner and best climber in the world.

by MissB on Jul 26, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

ryzim is TEH JINKS BRAKER!!

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

HIGHEST HIS VALUE HAS BEEN ALL YEAR!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 26, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here we go...

Maybe TSF wasn’t zero, but it was low enough for me and for the Curly W:

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Congratulations to Ricky Henderson, HOFer and the greatest lead-off hitter evah.
¡felicidades! to Alberto Contador, 2009 Tour de France winner and best climber in the world.

by MissB on Jul 26, 2009 4:29 PM EDT reply actions  

WooHoo.

If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman

by RoscoeNats on Jul 26, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Frustratingly, TSF™ stuck at 3.1...

Although wins can never suck. TSF™ = 0.

"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta

by Doghouse on Jul 26, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Add LI!

Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs

by Chris Pendley on Jul 26, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dirty Joe Beimel......first Nats Win!!!!

W: J. Beimel (1-5) L: G. Burke (2-3)

"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo

by cat daddy3000 on Jul 26, 2009 4:37 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm sad for Lannan that he didn't get the W.

He so deserved it.
Curses to you, MacDoody!

Congratulations to Ricky Henderson, HOFer and the greatest lead-off hitter evah.
¡felicidades! to Alberto Contador, 2009 Tour de France winner and best climber in the world.

by MissB on Jul 26, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lannan .....Player of the Game!!!!!

blind Kentucky squirrel, too…….

"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo

by cat daddy3000 on Jul 26, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

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