Washington Nationals: Non-Waiver Trade Deadline Tracker...Joe Beimel Traded, Nick Johnson???
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 11:05 AM EDT
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LATEST UPDATE:
(ed. note - "What follows is the day in rumors as recorded here at Federal Baseball.com, in the end the Washington Nationals traded both Nick Johnson and Joe Beimel, receiving 3 minor league pitchers in return. More news when it's available...")
3: 25 pm EST -
Marlins Reportedly End Pursuit Of Nick Johnson...35 Minutes To Change Their Minds....
"With less than an hour to go to the non-waiver deadline, the Marlins ended their quests to land Nationals first baseman Nick Johnson and Padres closer Heath Bell, according to major-league sources.
"Dead and over," one source said of both pursuits.
3:17 pm EST -
Nationals Journal - Washington Post writer Chico Harlan reporting on Joe Beimel being dealt to Colorado in an article entitled, "Beimel Traded To Rockies".
- No Report On Return.
3:11 pm EST -
MORE TWITTERING:
"Some of the Nationals are having batting practice right now, but there is no sign of Nick Johnson."
2:41 pm EST -
MORE TWITTERING: About Someone Other Than Nick Johnson This Time...
"The Rockies continues to have interest in left-hander Joe Beimel, but Colorado will not part with Eric Young Jr. for him."
2:20 pm EST -
MLB Marlins Beat Writer Joe Frisaro Twitter:
ed. note: ("Not confirming a trade, but..."):
"The way Hanley hits with runners on, getting Nick Johnson makes a lot of sense..."
1:58 pm EST -
SI.com's Jon Heyman via Twitter:
"marlins still pursuing nick johnson. said to be "getting closer'' to a deal. the fish dont fool around."
SI.com's Jon Heyman following up on SI.com's FanNation:
"The Marlins are said to be "getting closer" to a deal for Nationals first baseman Nick Johnson. They have been offering pitcher Ryan Tucker. Florida will probably need to add one player to that offer."
1:12 pm EST -
TWITTER TALK:
MLB Marlins Beat Writer Joe Frisaro Twitter:
"...spoke with MLB.com's Bill Ladson. He just talked to Nick Johnson about three mins ago. Nick says he hasn't been traded ... yet."
1:08 pm EST -
Yahoosports.com's 'Duk, Kevin Kaduk is hosting a live blog this afternoon, Yahoo!Sports writer Gordon Edes wrote earlier:
"gordon edes: Be assured, Marlins fans, that LHP Sean West is not part of any Nick Johnson deal..."
I put in a question for Mr. Edes asking if he had any idea which prospect was included and received this response:
"gordon edes: Ed, i haven't IDd lefty prospect yet, but i'm working on it..."
• Florida Marlins | Sun-Sentinel Blogs: Florida Marlins- Juan C. Rodriguez talks to the MLB Network about the Marlins' plans:
"...right now they have Emilio Bonifacio there(3B), a speedy kid that they really like, but he really just hasn't provided that on-base presence that a Nick Johnson would. So they're hoping they can land him, put him at first base, shift Jorge Cantu over to third, and that's really going to help their run production..."
12:38 pm EST -
"Marlins want Nick Johnson, but 'may move on'" - CBSSports.com - Danny Knobler
"The Marlins could be the latest team to talk trade with the Nationals, only to come away frustrated.
"The teams have been talking about a deal for first baseman Nick Johnson, but a source familiar with the negotiations said the Marlins are tiring of the slow pace of talks and 'may move on.'"
(ed. note - MLB Network just said they're going to focus on the NL East coming up next, and they'll talk about the Mets, Braves, Phillies and Marlins next...uh...?")
12:30 pm EST -
"The Marlins have improved their offer for Nationals first baseman Nick Johnson, offering another minor leaguer in addition to Class AAA right-hander Ryan Tucker, according to a major-league source."
(ed. note - "Of course, the "major-league source" doesn't mention how the deal may have been sweetened...")
The Rest Of The Morning's Updates After The JUMP...
12:15 pm EST -
• MLB Baseball Rumors - MLB Rumors - Major League Baseball Rumor Central - ESPN - Peter Gammons
"Washington hasn't made a trade since its June 30 trade for Nyjer Morgan and has told teams it's content to take draft picks for its impending free agents...
"But Johnson probably wouldn't qualify for free-agent compensation because he has missed so much time with injuries. So the Nats appear more motivated to trade Johnson than some of their other available players this week."
11:30 am EST -
• SI.com's Jon Heyman - "Marlins shift to Nick Johnson; Bell's price too high"
"The Marlins are focusing on Nationals first baseman Nick Johnson now, as they've deemed the price too high on the Padres star closer Heath Bell...
"It's interesting that the Marlins, winners of seven of nine, are seriously considering a rental player. Johnson's contract expires at year's end."
TWITTER TALK:
Links provided by - RoscoeNats:
USA Today Sports Writer Bob Nightengale Twitter Post:
"The Nats meanwhile have narrowed their GM candidates to two or three. Mike Rizzo, unfortunately, appears to be a longshot."
MLB Marlins Beat Writer Joe Frisaro Twitter:
"Hearing the Nationals may be reluctant to move Nick Johnson for Ryan Tucker."
10:50 am EST -
• Florida Marlins Top 20 Prospects for 2009 - Minor League Ball - John Sickels
(ed. note - "Ryan Tucker and Aaron Thompson Notes, From Minor League Ball's John Sickels' preseason rankings"):
6) Ryan Tucker, RHP, Grade B: He needs another pitch if he wants to start, but the ceiling stands out as excellent.
15) Aaron Thompson, LHP, Grade C+: Could be a C. I don’t like the way his Double-A numbers slipped and I worry about health.
"Marlins: Awaiting word on whether the Nationals will accept their offer of Class AAA right-hander Ryan Tucker for first baseman Nick Johnson; the Nats want Class AA lefty Aaron Thompson..."
• MiLB.com Player Page: Aaron Thompson.
-- Ryan Tucker Link:
• Tucker wins debut as Marlins roll | marlins.com: News - Alden Gonzalez
"Following Tucker's MLB Debut: '...Tucker was taken by the Marlins as a compensation pick following the first round of the 2005 First-Year Player Draft. After posting a 4.45 ERA in his first three years in the Minor Leagues, the California native broke out in a big way with the Mudcats this season, going 4-2 in 12 starts with a Southern League-leading 1.41 ERA.'"
10:08 am EST -
"The Washington Nationals’ first baseman, Johnson is the Marlins’ biggest target as the clock winds down, a source that has spoken with the club confirmed this morning. The Marlins hope to land Johnson and his gaudy .408 on-base percentage, and plug him in the two spot in front of Hanley Ramirez."
9:48 am EST - Washington Post writer Chico Harlan included this link to a San Francisco Chronicle article by Henry Schulman entitled, "UPDATE: A few pre-pre-pregame notes plus a lineup with no Freddy Sanchez or Randy Winn", where Mr. Schulman writes:
"I do believe the Giants made a push for Nick Johnson or Josh Willingham from Washington, but I heard that the Nationals decided they wanted to hold on to Willingham and Adam Dunn because, really, the only solid thing they have moving forward is their middle-order trio of Ryan Zimmerman, Dunn and Willingham. The source also said the Nats were demanding a ton for Johnson, which surprised the source given that the first baseman is a pending free agent..."
9:10 am EST - This is ridiculous (imho)...The Nationals Enquirer found this link to a Star-Telegram.com article by Jeff Wilson entitled, "Roy Halladay still in play for Rangers, but Jays want Derek Holland, others", wherein Mr. Wilson writes:
"...Other pitchers who might be available are left-handers Zach Duke and John Lannan."
Excuse me?
Tim Kurkjian Coming Up On ESPNRadio...9:15 am EST. (ed. note - "I'll publish notes soon...")
8:33 am EST -
Late last night, the Florida Marlins, according to FOXSports.com's Ken Rosenthal, offered Triple-AAA right-hander Ryan Tucker to the Nationals for 1B Nick Johnson, and Mr. Rosenthal writes, in his article entitled, "MLB trade deadline buzz", that the Marlins:
"...would send Class AAA right-hander Ryan Tucker to Washington, with the Nationals paying part of the approximately $1.8 million remaining on Johnson's contract."
Ryan Tucker -
• Marlins’ 1st Round pick, 34th overall in 2005.
• Recovering from knee injury…Ryan Tucker - (1-1, 4.09) 2 GS, 11.0 IP, 9 H, 5 ER, 7 BB, 5 K’s since returning from injury.
• Ranked as Florida's 5th Best Prospect in Baseball America's Mike Bernadino's 12/17/08 article, "Top 10 Prospects: Florida Marlins."
LINKS:
• Washington Post writer Chico Harlan, "Down To The Final Hours".
• Washington Times' Ben Goessling, "Nats' deadline deals likely to be minor."
• Federal Baseball.com's John Quinn, "Nationals News, TRADE DEADLINE IMMINENT Edition"
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Lannan???
http://www.nationalsenquirer.com/2009/07/dont-blow-it-mike.html
I doubt it.
If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 31, 2009 9:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That's ridiculous...but it will make the LINK list...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What if Rizzo starts doing crazy stuff because he's mad at Stan?
If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 31, 2009 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Acting out because of "Daddy" issues is not acceptable...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We trade Lannan and I'll...
..well, I don’t know what I’ll do, but I won’t be happy. How could we possibly a worthwhile haul? He’s exactly the sort we should be trading for.
"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta
by Doghouse on Jul 31, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not buying the report...
How can you trade the recognized “ace”? Basically the same argument I’d make aboot Dunn.
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dunn is valuable right now...
…but you can make the argument that we could trade him for someone younger and cheaper—how would that possibly apply to Lannan, who’s 23 and plays for league minimum?
"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta
by Doghouse on Jul 31, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I completely neglected to look closely at punctuation in the poll above. I thought there was an exclamation after Trade Nick Johnson and not a question mark.
This is how wars get started. My bad.
If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 31, 2009 9:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Read carefully...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NJ is going to be gone today
I don’t know where but he’ll be in Florida or Colorado or …
by pas493 on Jul 31, 2009 9:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Smoke = Fire in your opinion? How about Lannan? Is that ridiculous?
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This makes Beimel more attractive to Colorado.
Orioles opt to not move another pitcher — 9:18 a.m.
The Orioles will not trade left-hander Mark Hendrickson to the Rockies, according to a major-league source.
Foxsports
If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 31, 2009 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Theres no way
if they trade Lannan and its not for some lock of a MLB player… I will jump ship (not really but I’m threatening)… The ONLY way I could see that happening is if a team like Texas misses out on Halladay and they freak out at 3:59 PM and give up Hamilton, Murphy, Teagarden, Feliz, or Smoak, but thats not happening…
by pas493 on Jul 31, 2009 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. No way. But it does bother me that his name is being mentioned as available...(though that is the only place I've heard that)...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Every player should be "available"
Some should just take a whole lot more to pry away. Listing a player as “unavailable” is a really dumb thing to do. It cuts out the option of some team absolutely wowing the Nats.
Not likely, but why lock out options?
by John Quinn on Jul 31, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boy, the whole season I wanted to see NJ's name up for grabs and now that it's..
..there I can’t believe how much I’ll miss him in a Nats uni if it’s true….
by Berndaddy on Jul 31, 2009 10:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DNTNJ!! It's alright to change your mind!!! (whispers: and join the Federal Baseball.com Hive Mind!!)
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
TNJ. Be one of us.
If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 31, 2009 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
NO!!! That's not what the HIVE Mind says!!! DNTNJ!!!!
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
TNJTSNJ
“Trade Nick Johnson Then Sign Nick Johnson”
JOIN ME!!!!
by pas493 on Jul 31, 2009 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really think the only waty to keep him is to sign him before the end of the season and overpay for him. On the open market, there’s no way he’d come back here.
His agent sees interest in him now that hasn’t been seen since the tragedy in Shea stadium. KEARNS!!!
If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 31, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea but I don't know who will be willing to invest in him in the offseason...
Lets go NJ for Blalock straight up…
by pas493 on Jul 31, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Finding any links you don't see here? Feel Free to share...the more the better...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 10:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Updated list of Type A and B FAs
Nick…not even close.
Dunn, obviously comfortably in A category.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/17870577/Rankings-073009
I do not know the source, but since it’s on the internet, I’m sure it’s very accurate.
If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 31, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
From Fox Sports
Marlins: Awaiting word on whether the Nationals will accept their offer of Class AAA right-hander Ryan Tucker for first baseman Nick Johnson; the Nats want Class AA lefty Aaron Thompson. The Marlins, always full of surprises, have inquired on even the biggest fish, but balked at the price for players such as Padres closer Heath Bell.
Who is Aaron Thompson?
Full Name: Aaron M.Thompson
Born: February 28,1987 in Houston, Texas
Height: 6-3 Weight: 195 Bats: Left Throws: Left
High School: Second Baptist School (Houston, Texas)
College: None
Drafted: Selected by Florida Marlins in 1st Round (22nd overall) of 2005 amateur entry draft (June-Reg)
2009 Stats G W-L ERA IP H BB K SV WHIP
JCK (fla) AA 20 5-9 4.11 114 121 43 75 0 1.44
Signed by Scout: Dennis Cardoza
by Berndaddy on Jul 31, 2009 10:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
From Marlins MLB.com reporter Joe Frisaro
Hearing the Nationals may be reluctant to move Nick Johnson for Ryan Tucker.
From Roscoe…good, he’s your last chance, give us a better player.
If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 31, 2009 11:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wait a minute...
I thought we needed to improve our defense and let our young starting pitching do it’s thing. Am I backwards on this?
by NotASenator on Jul 31, 2009 11:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think it’s a scenario like this. Trade Nick away now because he’s leaving in 2 months anyway.
If they don’t trade him, then I guess the Nats can try to negotiate an extension before the end of the season.
Nick wants a multi-year contract and more money than he currently gets.
If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 31, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That makes sense
I just think about who we would be putting at first.
by NotASenator on Jul 31, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think limp to the end of the season and then figure it out. (Just not Belliard)
If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 31, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, to be clear, I'm not saying trade for a IF now...just don't trade Nick and make moves in offseason...
Get it right this time and get Hudson…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But, Nick would be insane to sign on for more of the Nats. Why keep him?
If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 31, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Especially that he isn't going to be an B free agent.
TNJ I’ll miss him but TNJ…sorry Ed I spit out the kool-aid…
by Berndaddy on Jul 31, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How's Aaron Boone since his heart surgery?
I thought I heard he was actually playing again (in the minors), although I may be confused.
"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta
by Doghouse on Jul 31, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you heard right.
July 24…
Aaron Boone worked out prior to the Astros’ game against the Mets at Minute Maid Park on Friday in hopes of returning to the club sometime in the next two months.
Over four months have passed since Boone made the announcement that he had a heart condition involving the aorta and aortic valve that required surgery, and that it would sideline him from playing baseball for what some thought would be the rest of his career. On Friday, Boone spent time in the batting cages and played catch. Astros general manager Ed Wade said that the team would put together a rehab assignment schedule for Boone once he indicates he feels ready to get back on the field. Although Wade wouldn’t speculate on what type of playing time Boone would see upon his return, the organization feels he is on a track that would have him back in September.
If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 31, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm more worried about the middle infielders than Zim and Nick at the corners, keep Nick, gets a SS or 2B...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tigers get Washburn
I’m telling you some of these teams (NYY, BOS, TEX, LAA, LAD) are going to spaz this afternoon…
by pas493 on Jul 31, 2009 11:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I love it. Screw the Yankees.
And I can’t wait to see what Boston does to get V-Mart.
If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 31, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last I read was that the Sox would rather have Adrian Gonzalez...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the Padres are asking for the farm.
If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 31, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MLB Network up and running with trade talk, will let you know if there are updates...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 11:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WHYYYYYYYY do I have to be at work!
by John Quinn on Jul 31, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just happen to have Fridays off...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ENVY ALERT !!!!
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by Berndaddy on Jul 31, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
From an mlb twitterer
If you’re at work watch all of mlb network’s coverage live and free on mlb.com and stay on the site for on demand content all day
If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 31, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can only listen to Harold Reynolds but so much...
I don’t know why he has to reference everything back to Griffey Jr.
“So Harold, what do you think about the Freddy Sanchez Trade”
HR: “Well back when I played with Ken Griffey Junior……..”
by pas493 on Jul 31, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now that's comedy.
If you’d rather see Buster and Kurkjian…for all your seamheads out there, my colleagues soon starting live trade deadline show on ESPNews at noon.
CLOSED CAPTIONING is the rule of the day.
If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 31, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marlins and Nats appear to be making progress on deal for Nick Johnson. Sources on both sides confirm talks are ongoing
from talking blog
by John Quinn on Jul 31, 2009 12:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Heh, Nick to Fish now top of the list at MLBTR and SBN Daily Dish
“According to ESPN’s Peter Gammons the Marlins are getting close……”
Stale news, Gammons……… get up earlier…
"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo
by cat daddy3000 on Jul 31, 2009 12:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Only additional info i've read is from Fox again...
The fish have added to Tucker, but I can’t determine what…
by Berndaddy on Jul 31, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope the Nats have scouted the minor leaguers.
If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 31, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's kinda the RZO's thing...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, Rosenthal reported Seattle keeping Washburn about an hour before he was traded....
"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo
by cat daddy3000 on Jul 31, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rosenthal's a hack.
Your voice of doom and gloom. Read more at natsnewsnetwork.blogspot.com
by Dave at Nats News Network on Jul 31, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly, Mr. Doom.....this whole day is going to be regurgitation of the stuff that pumpkin puked out until well after 4PM EDT...
"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo
by cat daddy3000 on Jul 31, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
TNJ
if the Nats get Tucker and something else, it’s a coup.
Your voice of doom and gloom. Read more at natsnewsnetwork.blogspot.com
by Dave at Nats News Network on Jul 31, 2009 12:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Probably that kid they mentioned yesterday.
If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 31, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marlins getting frustrated, just aboot to add a link...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rizzo's under their skin. Win this trade Rizzo. Stan's sitting behind you with a clipboard checking off boxes.
If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 31, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Were they asking the Nats to eat $1.5M of the $1.8M left for this year?
"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta
by Doghouse on Jul 31, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bet the Nats said…if we’re paying his salary, we’re getting more than an average pitcher in return.
If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 31, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
gordon edes: Be assured, Marlins fans, that LHP Sean West is not part of any Nick Johnson deal
by John Quinn on Jul 31, 2009 12:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
(that extra copy and paste cost me……)
"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo
by cat daddy3000 on Jul 31, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
gordon edes: Nationals trying to get a left-handed pitching prospect back from Marlins in Nick Johnson trade talks
gordon edes: Be assured, Marlins fans, that LHP Sean West is not part of any Nick Johnson deal
"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo
by cat daddy3000 on Jul 31, 2009 12:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just put a question on the Live blog for Mr. Edes, see if there's a response...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did your question show up?
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not yet. It'll show from Berndaddy...
by Berndaddy on Jul 31, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just wondering how backed up it was...
Just had a quote from Florida Sun-Sentinel on MLBN…transcribing now…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably all Nats questions stay last on the list.....
Ranked by MLB standings….
"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo
by cat daddy3000 on Jul 31, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just posted his response above...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
gordon edes: Ed, i haven't IDd lefty prospect yet, but i'm working on it
This it….. I didn’t see the question posted……
"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo
by cat daddy3000 on Jul 31, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They didn't post it, but he answered...thanks, Mr. Edes.
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Everybody:
Save some energy for BOOOOOOOing Lastings Milledge tonight.
Dave, you’re going, right? Boo extra for us.
If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 31, 2009 12:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
indeed going. missing tonight, darn it. but well be there tomorrow and Sunday.
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Jul 31, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, Dave, me and Mrs D (and some friends) will be there Sat/Sun! Go Nats!
I was planning to boo Lasto, but the Mrs. reminded me of her extremely strict “be a polite visiting fan” policy. Doing anything other than cheering for the Nats in front of her will come at great peril. Next time they come to Nats Park, though, the muzzle is OFF!
"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta
by Doghouse on Jul 31, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the Nats don't win at least 3 games, they should be embarassed.
If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 31, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
running to lunch
i expect a deal when i get back. get on it, Ed.
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Jul 31, 2009 12:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm working the phones...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
...and DNTNJ...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
TNJ
If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 31, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
JoeFrisaro#mlbtrades. spoke with MLB.com’s Bill Ladson. He just talked to Nick Johnson about three mins ago. Nick says he hasn’t been traded … yet.
If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 31, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stuff's happening...
JeffFletcherAOLThe #Brewers have acquired Claudio Vargas from #dodgers for Vinny Rotino, a ML source has confirmed. That’ll solve their SP problems.
bigleaguestewTim Brown: Twins acquire Orlando Cabrera from Oakland in exchange for SS Tyler Ladendorf
If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 31, 2009 1:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
AmyKNelson Dodgers send P Claudio Vargas to MIL for C Vinny Rottino …
If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 31, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sad that Nick's only attracting a AAA guy with a bad knee....And the Red Sox are offering mutiple MLB players for Adrian Gonzalez...
John Heyman of SI.com reports that the Red Sox and Padres continue to talk about an Adrian Gonzalez deal, but the Red Sox want to include Clay Buchholz, Jed Lowrie and Justin Masterson
"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo
by cat daddy3000 on Jul 31, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Woop! Woop!! "Money" Cabrera's on the move again, the DC Faithful would have loved him...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wipes a tear.....
"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo
by cat daddy3000 on Jul 31, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still have my Cabrera/Expos name and # t-shirt...
…and I’m actually wearing my Vidro #3 t-shirt right now…don’t worry, I won’t describe what else I’m wearing…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
GROSS
If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 31, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
shorts, and sneakers...that's all ROSCOE, don't twitter that...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why did yall like the Expos?
Just curious
by pas493 on Jul 31, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Raines, Dawson, Carter...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
(whispers) - the caps...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I grew up in Florida before there were any teams there so we saw the Braves and Cubs on cable. I liked Carter and Dawson and Raines and so on.
If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 31, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and Tim Wallach and Warren Cromartie .....
They were my Strat-o-matic pick in 1983, came in 3rd and followed them ever since. I liked that they were a Canadian team……
"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo
by cat daddy3000 on Jul 31, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In case anyone's forgotten...today is also the Deadline for Mr. Strasburg to sign in Japan...
I was going to put up a “Boras: I’m calling your bluff” post, but when he took Strasburg to Japan I didn’t want to get blamed…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 1:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn’t it have been yesterday since today is tomorrow in Japan?
by pas493 on Jul 31, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I assumed the deadline given out in papers had the EST time, but you might be right...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So unless The RZO completely surprises everyone, it looks like Nick Johnson moves or the Nationals (32-70) stand pat...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 1:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
mlbtraderumors is crashing under the pressure...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 1:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dallas Morning News website won't open either. DANG
If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 31, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just lost my spot on the Big League Stew......... stupid 'tubes....
"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo
by cat daddy3000 on Jul 31, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
got it back.......heh....
[Comment From Jared]
Hey ‘Duk, what about the Expos? They’ve been eerily quiet thus far…
"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo
by cat daddy3000 on Jul 31, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude from Big League Stew always bashes the nationals
by pas493 on Jul 31, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
shrug...... hard not to be a punching bag when losing 100+ year after year......
"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo
by cat daddy3000 on Jul 31, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn MLBTR
do you ever go to there Tuesday chats?
by pas493 on Jul 31, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Destin Hood and Drew Storen on BP's Hot Sheet
Destin is #8
Drew is “in the photo”
That’s four of our prospects so for this season…
Norris and Marrero the other two..
by Berndaddy on Jul 31, 2009 1:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I can’t remember who said it, but there’s a shot Norris could move to 1B if needed.
If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 31, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just notice Norris at the end of the hot list...
Say what we want of the Big league club but we’re starting to see the prospects coming…
by Berndaddy on Jul 31, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ugh...just lost Comcast for a few minutes...
Want to watch a mild-mannered man explode? Do that again, Comcast!!
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 1:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Comcast blows gotta go with Verizon FIOS
by pas493 on Jul 31, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/3055091029
by pas493 on Jul 31, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hope the Tribe did a little better than they did in the Lee deal
Not that they did horribly in the Lee deal, but I’d think they would have done a little better. Can’t stand the Red Sox, so hopefully Shapiro raked them over the coals.
by bluelineswinger on Jul 31, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So I'm assuming the market on anyone other than NJ
Is as quiet as what I’m seeing. Fangraphs with a good article today:
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/getting-nothing-dun
by bluelineswinger on Jul 31, 2009 2:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I really thought Beimel would move. Still two hours.
If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 31, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lots of Twitter talk out of Detroit
About Dunn or the Hammer. Mainly seems to be fans hoping, though.
by bluelineswinger on Jul 31, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd be amazed if something jumped out about those deals all of a sudden...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No news?
Come on, the Nats have to do SOMETHING!
by John Quinn on Jul 31, 2009 2:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
93 minutes and counting...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You gotta remember you don’t hear every deal by 4PM, some come out like an hour afterwards…
by pas493 on Jul 31, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They tend to trickle out afterwards...that's even worse than waiting through the countdown...waiting for the last deal to be done...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MLBNationals – The Rockies continues to have interest in left-hander Joe Beimel, but Colorado will not part with Eric Young Jr. for him.
If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 31, 2009 2:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Heck, take anything. AA shortstop? Single A shortstop. Anything.
If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 31, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Humidor full of balls?
"It's not a secret, you don't need to be an expert on math to know that walks plus errors equals runs...." --Mannyger Acta
by Doghouse on Jul 31, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rockies system
Looking yesterday, I didn’t really see too much there. Young, Jr. is their best offensive prospect by quite a bit. They’re obviously not getting one of their two big pitching prospects (Chacin/Friedrich) for Beimel either. Their best prospects outside of Young offensively are C level prospects that play catcher and third base, which aren’t really that interesting.
by bluelineswinger on Jul 31, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
V-Mart to Boston
Heyman still says Colorado hot on Beimel but won’t give you Eric Young Jr, and “believes” nats move Johnson to Marlins.
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Jul 31, 2009 2:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is way more tense than waiting for the bullpen to blow up...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, and the Yankees haven't even kicked any tires yet.
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Jul 31, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I keep waiting for the Hall - to Yankees report...I'm not spelling his name cause I'm afraid it will make it happen
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and Hagadone, and they are still working...
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Jul 31, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
V-Mart bobblehead day in Cleveland tomorrow. D'OH
http://cleveland.indians.mlb.com/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=cle&m=8&y=2009
If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 31, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
:-)
that’s why the Nats aren’t trading Dunn!!! (only half-kidding)
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Jul 31, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they spent a lot of money on the Donkey bobbles...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DNTNJ!! DNTNJ!!! DNTNJ!!!!
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 2:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
TNJ! TNJ! TNJ!!!
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Jul 31, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Second!!!
If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 31, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can totally just erase those...(laughs)...DNTNJ!!!
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm on my own and prepared to be disappointed...
WHERE THE NJ™ FANS AT????
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m coming back to the fence Ed, but not there yet
by pas493 on Jul 31, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
STEP TO THIS SIDE OF THE LINE!! ANDREW MILLER OR BUST!!!
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HA
If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 31, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gonna put up that Beimel note since it's a new name...back shortly...
I have 4 twitters, 1050 ESPN Radio, the MLB Network, ESPN News and YAHOOSPORTS all open and updating, if anything happens, this is fun…
TJBTLA!!!! TRADE JOE BEIMEL TO LA!!!
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm an NJ™ fan, but
1) he’s 30
2) he’s brittle
3) he’s not the same player he was in 2006
4) he wants a better contract than the last one
5) he won’t merit a draft pick if the Nats lose him
TRADE NICK JOHNSON!!!
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Jul 31, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“he’s brittle”
How many games has he missed due to injury this year?
by pas493 on Jul 31, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the reason he won't garner a pick is because...
he missed all of last year with an injury Ortiz returned from in two months.
you can’t say Johnson doesn’t have an injury history.
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Jul 31, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He does stemming from one horrendous injury a couple of years ago, you can’t look at what pick he garners to access his health right now. He is as healthy right now then he has been at any point.
by pas493 on Jul 31, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
129, 96, 73, 131, 147, 0, 38, 98
Nick Johnson games played since 2002. he’s played exactly two full seasons since he became a regular.
that’s the definition of brittle.
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Jul 31, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you still haven't answered my question
How many games has he missed this year due to injury? Whoever trades for him is going to get NJ now not NJ then…
by pas493 on Jul 31, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
obviously, just a couple. don't be snarky.
but his injury history is relevant when you’re talking about trading, or signing, any player.
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Jul 31, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For two months. Two months in a Nats uniform is useless. Why not get a couple decent players for him.
Who the hell cares who plays 1B for a 110 loss team.
If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 31, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think if you don't deal him you have to sign him...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree 100%.
Sign him before anybody else is legally allowed to talk to him.
If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 31, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yup...
and that’s part of the problem.
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Jul 31, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like tomorrow, yes, say we kept you, "Here's your raise!!"
1 hr 3 minutes left…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probablilities are based on a total history not today.
TNJ now…..
by Berndaddy on Jul 31, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, contract is based on whole career, that's why he's "oft-injured" Nick Johnson and not "Currently slumping" Nick Johnson...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the contract, the Nats will be in trouble with the dumb contracts on their books...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't the dumb Bowden contracts come off the books after 2009? (Well Guzman of course)
Stressing DUMB.
Donkey is ok I think and Zimm is obviously ok.
If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 31, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just mean, Nick can point to some contracts and say if Belliard gets this, and Austin Kearns gets that, what am I worth...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was with an idiot handing out contracts.
If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 31, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Names reportedly being included in the V-Mart Boston deal
Nick Hagadone and Justin Masterson, with the teams apparently trying to find a third player. Red Sox apparently going to get him without losing Buchholz and Bard.
by bluelineswinger on Jul 31, 2009 2:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Red Sox now shopping LaRoche...give him to FLORIDA!! QUICK!!!!!
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
SOMEONE CALL THE MARLINS!! SAVE NICK JOHNSON!!! SAVE NICK JOHNSON!!!!
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that would just be fitting
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Jul 31, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Red Sox just give him away and Washington gets left at table...hee hee...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ed how can you honestly be saying this stuff. We'll get no value back with Johnson stay here.
by Berndaddy on Jul 31, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You'll get Nick Johnson for two years, which is what i've wanted...no Dunn at first, no Hammer learning the position...a solid and hopefully healthy Nick Johnson...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and two more years of declining play, shoddy defense and less youth to believe in
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Jul 31, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you that impressed with either of the prospects? They're both former #1 picks from '05...
Will they be better than the Nationals’ late-round ’05 picks Lannan and Stammen?
I
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Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
1st Round picks...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is Tucker an '05 1st rounder?
Seriously, I’ve been on a plane. I have no idea what’s going on.
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by Graysnail on Jul 31, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes...
• Marlins’ 1st Round pick, 34th overall in 2005.
• Recovering from knee injury…Ryan Tucker – (1-1, 4.09) 2 GS, 11.0 IP, 9 H, 5 ER, 7 BB, 5 K’s since returning from injury.
• Ranked as Florida’s 5th Best Prospect in Baseball America’s Mike Bernadino’s 12/17/08 article, “Top 10 Prospects: Florida Marlins.”
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Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sweet!
Sickels has him as kind of a tweener with a high ceiling. Can someone teach him a third pitch?
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by Graysnail on Jul 31, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just catching up now.
Is it still Tucker + 2nd P for NJ + cash?
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by Graysnail on Jul 31, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haven't seen an update
so i think that’s what they are haggling about.
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Jul 31, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anything involving Andrew Miller?
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by Graysnail on Jul 31, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Outside of my mind no...he's injured now...that's just what I'd want...
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Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no
the Marlins won’t trade anything off their major league roster for Johnson.
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Jul 31, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
53 minutes + time to report...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Miller's on their ML roster?
Um, never mind then. He’s on his way to shellshock the longer he stays up there.
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by Graysnail on Jul 31, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Later folks. Can't wait to see how this all turns out.
If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Jul 31, 2009 2:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Later, Roscoe...Pirates going down tonight!! LASTO!!!!!!
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by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Braves interested in Adam LaRoche: MLBTR
WTF
by pas493 on Jul 31, 2009 3:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Blast from the past?
I remember seeing a few people say they didn’t think the Braves would have any interest in upgrading Kotchman in my fanpost the other day.
by bluelineswinger on Jul 31, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MLBNationals Twitter...
“Some of the Nationals are having batting practice right now, but there is no sign of Nick Johnson.”
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Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 3:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
:-) whoops
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Jul 31, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I assume that's going to happen a lot in the next 45 minutes...(laughs)...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to put it all out front, so feel free to do so here....
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"MLBNationals" on MLB.com Insider (prob. Ladson), says:
“some of the Nationals are having batting practice right now, but there is no sign of Nick Johnson.”
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Jul 31, 2009 3:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
RT from KReiss:
“Boom goes the dynamite RT @JoeFrisaro: #mlbtrades Source just informed me. Marlins not expected to complete any trades by 4.”
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by Graysnail on Jul 31, 2009 3:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
MLB Trade Rumors latest
Braves ACQUIRE Adam LaRoche (that was fast).
Marlins not getting Nick Johnson?
by bluelineswinger on Jul 31, 2009 3:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
huh, what? source?
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Jul 31, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/nationalsjournal/
by Fear_Redskins on Jul 31, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
interesting
hope it’s for more than a ham sandwich. it’ll probably be PTBNL. what a buzzkill.
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Jul 31, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, with how Rizzo's been overvaluing his players, it may be someone decent.
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by Graysnail on Jul 31, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
FRISARO: TWITTER...
“Source just informed me. Marlins not expected to complete any trades by 4.”
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Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 3:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
foxsports.com: The Marlins have ended their pursuit of Nationals first baseman Nick Johnson and Padres closer Heath Bell, according to major-league sources.
"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo
by cat daddy3000 on Jul 31, 2009 3:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
crud
this organization really does one thing well: screw things up.
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Jul 31, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Deadline fast approaching
And Rizzo still holding his………. OK… I’ll try to keep it clean
:(
by bluelineswinger on Jul 31, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sources: Marlins end pursuit of Johnson — Updated 3:12 p.m.
With less than an hour to go to the non-waiver deadline, the Marlins ended their quests to land Nationals first baseman Nick Johnson and Padres closer Heath Bell, according to major-league sources.
“Dead and over,” one source said of both pursuits.
The Marlins offered Class AAA right-hander Ryan Tucker and another minor leaguer for Johnson, but talks stalled when the Nationals asked for Class AA left-hander Aaron Thompson.
"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo
by cat daddy3000 on Jul 31, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, go figure - you can't get an organization's 2/3 prospects (from 2008, granted) for a guy who'll be a FA in three months.
::shockedface::
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by Graysnail on Jul 31, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last minute Marlins' bluff??? "We're walking away..."
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, overvaluing Johnson.
I mean, while I’d like to get that return, there’s no way the Marlins should give that much up. None whatsoever. Take Tucker and be happy with it.
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by Graysnail on Jul 31, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Might be a bluff..... lots of reports of pending deals that take a turn at the last minute...
"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo
by cat daddy3000 on Jul 31, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just had the same on MLB Network, Ken Rosenthal reporting...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alright.... let's see what the return is for Dirty Joe
Rizzo continues to botch dealing NJ, though.
by bluelineswinger on Jul 31, 2009 3:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wtf's up w/ NTNJ?
its not like they are gonna pay him above his market value to keep him anyways., and im sure he would rather go somewhere else than DC
by Fear_Redskins on Jul 31, 2009 3:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure he’d like to go somewhere else. He’s an Expo, and maybe he feels like things will turn around sometime in his lifetime?
I’m not sure why he’d think that, though…
by John Quinn on Jul 31, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yankees counter Red Sox move
Well… not really. Apparently they just acquired Jerry Hairston, Jr. from the Reds.
by bluelineswinger on Jul 31, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
YOUR MOVE, TAMPA BAY!
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by Graysnail on Jul 31, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
TYMRFNTNJ!!!
Thank you Mike Rizzo for not trading Nick Johnson!!!
"If Daniel Cabrera threw stones at glass houses, he'd walk it in four pitches." -GalRevelsInPee, Nationals Journal
by tengoalyrunr30 on Jul 31, 2009 3:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WOOP!! WOOP!!!
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not trading NJ
Whoo…. we’ll lose 110 games instead of 113. And just lose him to free agency for nothing at the end of the year instead…. I just don’t get it.
by bluelineswinger on Jul 31, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
glad to see everyones optimism for Aug/Sept
by pas493 on Jul 31, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wai until they fail to sign Strasburg
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Jul 31, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're just trying to get Ed to ban you for today, aren't you?
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by Graysnail on Jul 31, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No announcement that he signed in Japan!!!!
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fine, 108 losses.
The point still stands.
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by Graysnail on Jul 31, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the Nats go backwards on trade deadline day 2009
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Jul 31, 2009 3:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Amen, brother!!!
I’m on the pew of the church of Dave…
by Berndaddy on Jul 31, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stan Kasten trades Mike Rizzo to Pirates
For Neal Huntington. Now wouldn’t that be nice :P
by bluelineswinger on Jul 31, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
it's inconceivable...
that this team sits on its hands at the trade deadline. all that Dunn, Willingham, Johnson, Harris are going to do is get one year older, slower, and worse.
why on earth would Nick Johnson re-sign here? he knows this is the most logical place for him to get overpaid?
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Jul 31, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They are all between the ages of 29 and 31, you act like they are geriatrics or something
by pas493 on Jul 31, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and that means they are on the downside of their productive years.
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Jul 31, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh, they're not really accelerating into a decline at that age.
When they’re 34-36, yes. But now they’re close enough to their peak.
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by Graysnail on Jul 31, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They won't have much of a useful shelf life by the time this team becomes competitive.
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by Graysnail on Jul 31, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How do you expect to sell tickets for one?
And I forgot you have a crystal ball, seriously yall haven’ts said one positive thing lately
by pas493 on Jul 31, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They haven't given us much to be positive about
And they’re not selling too many tickets right now anyway, unless you count the empty seats.
by bluelineswinger on Jul 31, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
seriously...
if they don’t trade and then re-sign Johnson, we go into next year with essentially the same team that’s committing an error a game this year AND with no further prospects to look forward to.
i should be happy about THAT?!?
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Jul 31, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The team hasn't topped .333 this season.
There’s no reason for them to hold onto anyone of even kind of value. They’re so broken that vets would put them down. Why should we be positive?
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by Graysnail on Jul 31, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no reason
you should just walk around pissed off and pessimistic and try to bring everyone else down, theres no reason to be optimisitc about anything, your right
by pas493 on Jul 31, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so tell us, what we should be optimistic about?
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Jul 31, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most people usually realize that after a while.
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by Graysnail on Jul 31, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing I already told you...
I actually have some sense of optimism about this ball club and I haven’t pencilled in 110 losses yet. I chose not to sit here and scrutinize every move or non-move that the Nats make. Rizzo probably knows a lot more about baseball then any of us and we don’t know whats gone down in that room today. But I’m not going to sit around and bitch about things… Youth doesn’t equal optimism, we need a good mix of Vets, remember the ’06 Tigers? Young Pitching staff (reminds me a lot of ours), with veterans on the field Guillien, Casey, Rogers, Inge, Polanco, Pudge, Monroe, Stairs, Mags…
Sorry for being optimisitic, I watch the games to root for the Nats not to bitch about whats going wrong…
by pas493 on Jul 31, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're entitled to your opinion
just as we are entitled to ours. sorry if they don’t coincide.
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Jul 31, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In all honesty
What we’re all hoping for is the front office to give us something to be optimistic about.
by bluelineswinger on Jul 31, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
youth = optimism
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Jul 31, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Extracting value from expiring contracts = optimism
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by Graysnail on Jul 31, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Geezzz everyone is jumping ship, still plenty of time left
and the Rangers have eeriely (sp) quiet
by pas493 on Jul 31, 2009 3:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Adam LaRoche thought he had a WS ring for about a week…
by pas493 on Jul 31, 2009 3:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jon Heyman just said, "The Marlins are still talking about Nick Johnson..."
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 3:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Heyman's a moron
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by Graysnail on Jul 31, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unless he means in the "I can't believe the Nats were asking that much for Nick Johnson" sense.
I’d buy that.
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by Graysnail on Jul 31, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Jul 31, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Catch y'all later. End of month
ALL SAID TODAY IS SAID WITH LOVE. I sorry for any of my own snaek here….L8R
by Berndaddy on Jul 31, 2009 3:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
all good, berndaddy
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Jul 31, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't go apologizing for it now. :)
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by Graysnail on Jul 31, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rolen to Reds?
Per MLB Network…. no particulars.
by bluelineswinger on Jul 31, 2009 3:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Still no word on what the Beimel return is?
MLB Network’s about to announce it… maybe they have more particulars (doubt it)
by bluelineswinger on Jul 31, 2009 3:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yours popped up just as I was hitting post.... from Ladson
"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo
by cat daddy3000 on Jul 31, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beimel for two minor league pitchers.
"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo
by cat daddy3000 on Jul 31, 2009 3:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hate when they take the easy way out
Figured it was a minor leaguer or two (of course), but which friggin’ ones?
by bluelineswinger on Jul 31, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ladson
"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo
by cat daddy3000 on Jul 31, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"two minor leaguers"
WTF?
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Jul 31, 2009 3:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Eh, wild cards were what I expected.
I mean, slightly-better-than-league-average MRs don’t go for much when they’re in their walk year.
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by Graysnail on Jul 31, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
But it would be interesting to hear which wildcards.
by bluelineswinger on Jul 31, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The "two" part sounds good????
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Harrisburg is fading in the 2nd half run.........needed help...
"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo
by cat daddy3000 on Jul 31, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
better than one minor leaguer?
"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo
by cat daddy3000 on Jul 31, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yup
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Jul 31, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
But I’d imagine that the “one” would be a better prospect than the “two” will be.
by bluelineswinger on Jul 31, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd bet one is decent, one is filler.
Your definition of decent may vary.
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by Graysnail on Jul 31, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jerry Hariston for Austin Jackson???
Jonathan Mayo reports. what does Hariston do that Willis Harris couldn’t???
OMG
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Jul 31, 2009 3:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hairston hits for better power
And is better in the infield than Harris is at this point.
by bluelineswinger on Jul 31, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hairston has a .265/.321/.406 line in the past three years, Harris has .254/.349/.400.
Almost the same thing, but I think I’d rather take Harris’ OBP.
by John Quinn on Jul 31, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mayo just sort of retracted
that would be outrageous though
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Jul 31, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No way Austin Jackson there...I can't believe that..
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by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd still think Austin Jackson for Hairston
Would be insane, though. Total panic move by the Yanks
by bluelineswinger on Jul 31, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LaRoche for Kotchman
Really weird trade, why would the Sox do that and not just leave LaRoche on the bench
by pas493 on Jul 31, 2009 3:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
JINX...
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Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
La Roche to Braves for Casey Kotchman...
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Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 3:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Source: Marlins get Nats’ Johnson — 3:53 p.m.
The Marlins have acquired first baseman Nick Johnson for the Nationals for Class AA left-hander Aaron Thompson, according to a major-league source.
The Nationals will pay the approximately $1.8 million remaining on Johnson’s salary.
Johnson is a free agent at the end of the season.
by pas493 on Jul 31, 2009 3:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Crossing fingers.............
At least it’s something
by bluelineswinger on Jul 31, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus the cash!
I can’t believe that.
by NotASenator on Jul 31, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/T/Aaron-Thompson-2.shtml
They traded NJ for a guy who has dropped in Florida’s minor league ranking in each of the last three years?
COME ON!
by John Quinn on Jul 31, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Going 5, 7, 8 isn't exactly 1, 12, 14.
He’s still pretty much the upper limit of what I expected to get for NJ.
Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs
by Graysnail on Jul 31, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WHERE IS THAT?
The Comment section…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea
Thats why i said who knows, haven’t seen it any where else
by pas493 on Jul 31, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know about that, i'd be careful with stuff from the comments...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea thats what I'm saying
don’t start chugging tequila yet Ed
by pas493 on Jul 31, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here.
Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs
by Graysnail on Jul 31, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ooops.
HERE.
Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs
by Graysnail on Jul 31, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NBBBBBBBBBBBBBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's cool, when NJ gets injured in a week you'l be happier.
Man, I’ve been waiting two months to say that.
Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs
by Graysnail on Jul 31, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Much better source
At least they got something. Like to think that maybe they could have done better if they’d dealt NJ when they should have, but at least they won’t lose him for nothing at all like they were going to.
by bluelineswinger on Jul 31, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly
Would probably rather have had the Tucker+ deal, but I’m sure the + was just gonna be a filler.
by bluelineswinger on Jul 31, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same here.
But Thompson isn’t a bad spot. Remember, even if he projects out as a 4th starter, 100 ERA+ (or 100 tRA+) at an under-team-control value is still valuable.
Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs
by Graysnail on Jul 31, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, it is.
Crafty lefty types being what they are, he won’t be a series of league-average outings. But the aggregate could look halfway decent.
Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs
by Graysnail on Jul 31, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Believe me
I’m just happy to see they got something for him. Keeping Johnson around wasn’t going to do the Nats any good. Sorry Ed.
by bluelineswinger on Jul 31, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They lose 1-2 wins without NJ the rest of the way
If that. Six years of control on a kid that Rizzo apparently feels has a shot at being close to a league average starter for him is much better for the long run.
And hey… think of it this way. Who does his repertoire sound a bit like?
by bluelineswinger on Jul 31, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oops, guess we're back to 110 losses now.
Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs
by Graysnail on Jul 31, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is something to be said for not stocking a rotation full of those types, though.
More of a mild word of caution than a don’t-do-it, and certainly now it’s not a big concern. But if they ever reach the stage where these things are important, it may matter.
Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs
by Graysnail on Jul 31, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Just trying to bring some optimism, since apparently a few of us are being criticized for not doing so……..
by bluelineswinger on Jul 31, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let haters be haters.
Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs
by Graysnail on Jul 31, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The lineup will be easier for The Riggler without having to figure out what to do with two 2-Spots....
ah. I just saw a rainbow….
"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo
by cat daddy3000 on Jul 31, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well done, Rizzo.
Thompson’s a pretty decent arm. That was about what I was hoping for, so cool.
Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs
by Graysnail on Jul 31, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The link there does not go to that news...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Jul 31, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LIARS!!!!!
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9875596/MLB-trade-deadline-buzz:-Friday’s-editionSource: Marlins get Nats’ Johnson — 3:53 p.m.
The Marlins have acquired first baseman Nick Johnson for the Nationals for Class AA left-hander Aaron Thompson, according to a major-league source.
The Nationals will pay the approximately $1.8 million remaining on Johnson’s salary.
"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo
by cat daddy3000 on Jul 31, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hasn't posted in seven minutes........ must be F5ing the intertubes and trashing the apartment....
"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo
by cat daddy3000 on Jul 31, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Raccoons are holding their breath and awaiting word of Chigliak's fate....and having popcorn...
"And it's really tough to put your finger on what it is, uh specifically, it kind of like snowballs on us and we just don't execute at times..." -Rizzo
by cat daddy3000 on Jul 31, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aaron Thompson, LHP
DOB: 2/28/87
Height/Weight: 6-3/195
Bats/Throws: L/L
Draft: 1st round, 2005, Texas HS
What he did in 2006: 3.63 ERA, 134-139-35-114 at Low A
The Good: The cerebral lefty has an 87-90 mph fastball and plus slider to go along with pinpoint command. He mixes in a changeup, and is aggressive within the strike zone.
The Bad: His success depends far more on finesse then power, and his velocity fluctuated during the season, dropping into the mid-80s at times.
The Irrelevant: Thompson will be an interesting one to watch at the plate when he reaches Double-A. A two-way star in college, he’d have hit in the middle of the Texas A&M lineup had he attended college.
In A Perfect World, He Becomes: A solid but unspectacular left-handed starter.
Gap Between What He Is Now, And What He Can Be: Average. Thompson’s polish could allow him to move quickly, but he lacks the projection of some of the more physical pitchers ahead of him on this list.
by pas493 on Jul 31, 2009 4:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Purple Row reporting
That one of the prospects back in the Beimel deal is 25-year-old RHP Ryan Mattheus.
Mattheus is 1-1 with a 4.32 ERA and a 20:8 strikeout to walk ratio in 16.2 innings (13 appearances) at AAA Colorado Springs. Former starting prospect, converted to a reliever and was the closer in AA last season, notching 17 saves with a 3.28 ERA and a 56:27 strikeout to walk ratio in 57.2 innings at AA in 2008. It looks like he was hurt for part of the season, as he’s pitched at A+, AA, and AAA this season, having made just 19 appearances between them.
by bluelineswinger on Jul 31, 2009 4:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Peavy to White Sox rumor back on?
So says Heyman. I wonder if Kenny Williams can make a bigger overture to get him to waive the no-trade clause this time. Don’t trust Heyman, but he said the deal was done.
by bluelineswinger on Jul 31, 2009 4:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's apparently done.
five player deal
by NotASenator on Jul 31, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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