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Strasburg (and Boras) generating bad blood among Nats fans?

Most Nats fans know that Scott Boras will probably wait until just before the signing deadline before undertaking any serious negotiations for Strasburg's possible contract. Putting aside the fact that Boras has several other unsigned clients, some of whom may miss out on the deadline and end up shattering their careers as a result (since they won't be in as much demand as someone like Strasburg), Boras AND Strasburg are generating a lot of ill will around baseball. Is this really the way Strasburg wants to start out his professional baseball career? Apparently so.

People understand that this is a business but you can tell that even some of the current major leaguers are frustrated by the negotiation tactics here. Strasburg hasn't thrown a single pitch in a professional game and yet he wants more money than most major leaguers are likely to see over the course of their entire careers. No. 1 overall pitchers have poor track records and none of them have ever turned out to be true, long-term stars. The Nats' other 1st round draft pick signed a long time ago and promptly got to work. Meanwhile, Strasburg is probably checking out Hummer dealerships and setting up deals to buy a tricked out monster SUV as soon as his big, hoped-for payday comes in. Ugh.

This all leaves a sour taste in my mouth. I'm sure Boras doesn't care but maybe Strasburg does. At least he should. He's going to be in a very prominent, public position over the next few years, assuming he actually signs and doesn't get himself injured a la Jordan Zimmermann. He's threatening to walk away from tens of millions of dollars? In the middle of a worldwide recession? Now he's threatening to not sign and play in Japan for a year. *shakes head* Yeah, that sounds like a real good career plan. Not that Japanese baseball is bad but what does Strasburg know about Japanese baseball and Japanese culture. He's going to have a tough time adjusting just to everyday life, let alone professional baseball, all as a young adult. Most American players who go over there are established MLB veterans who already know about the rigors of playing professional baseball.

If Strasburg signs, many fans will forget about the negotating tactics but I hope many others don't. I'd like to see a negative reaction so that future Boras clients see the downside to going along with Boras and acting like corporate raiders instead of prospective pitchers. Remember, these are guys who don't have any professional experience whatsoever. The players' union should be upset too. All the millions of dollars that are going to unproven prospects could be going toward salaries and bonuses for major league players with established playing credentials. Instead, they are going out to high-risk high schoolers and college players with no track record. It's one thing to roll the dice on someone like a Pedro Martinez who has a long history of injuries but an equally long list of outstanding accomplishments in the game. It's another thing to throw $50 million at someone who has only faced other amateur players, the vast majority of whom will never even play a single major league game. True, Strasburg was impressive in the international competitions last year with Team USA but how many prospects in all of professional sports have played great games only to do little over the course of their careers after that.

Sign a freaking contract already, Strasburg!

Poll
Do you view Strasburg negatively because of the outrageous contract demands and delayed negotations?
Yes. He needs to sign now and he needs to settle for a reasonable dollar figure.
70 votes
No. It's a business, not a sport.
23 votes
I'll probably forget about all of this in a year or two.
10 votes

103 votes | Poll has closed

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I alwasy thought

That if teams didnt want to put up with this nonsense they would just not deal with Boras clients. The problem: one team always will, therfore they will always be able to get that talent (while other teams dont). If the Nats had not signed Stras because he was a Boras client…the fans would have been in an outrage suggesting the Lerners are cheap and the franchise is not competitive (havent we heard this before?).

Not sure Stras will get too much bad blood from the fans. Especially if the kid actually plays well… then the fans will have a short memory. But I dont think the players will forget – and I think that Dibs recent comments on Stephen Drew might be quite accurate in regards to guys like Stras (he was never liked anywhere he went). I wouldnt expect Stras to have many friends in baseball…apart from Boras (and maybe Dukes).

Padilla walked into the Nats' clubhouse for the first time and said, "My God. I'm in heaven."

by Mezza on Aug 15, 2009 5:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good point about the other players

If Strasburg has a long career, he is going to have to deal with the resentment and scorn of other major league players for many years. He will be spending an awful lot of time with these guys every spring, summer and hopefully fall. I sure hope Boras is a lot of fun at tailgate parties.

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Washington, first in war, first in peace, last in the NL East :(

by Potomac Fan on Aug 15, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Boras' players wont be allowed to scorn him, and they are many.

"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James

by PhDBrian on Aug 16, 2009 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Buck Sholwalter and others were just commenting that veteran players hate this...

The pressure on this kid must be amazing.

Padilla walked into the Nats' clubhouse for the first time and said, "My God. I'm in heaven."

by Mezza on Aug 16, 2009 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"With 48 hours to go, I simply have no idea whether we're going to be able to reach a deal," Kasten said in an interview with The Associated Press.

“This kid is so impressive. We have nothing but the highest regard for him. If he wants to come and begin his career right now — and do so with the largest contract ever given to any drafted player in the history of Major League Baseball — we can help him accomplish that,” Kasten told the AP. “But if this is more about changing the whole way an industry does business, then we won’t be able to reach a deal.”

If they haven’t given Strasburg a bound copy of this story….well…
http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2009/05/12/the-curious-case-of-matt-harrington/

"He's just a draft pick"... "It's not the end of the world if he doesn't sign"
FB dot com taking the right tone for the Strasburg issue. 8 Aug 09.

by cat daddy3000 on Aug 15, 2009 6:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

GO STAN

It’s a big game of chicken. When it comes down to it, I think the kid will take our deal. He doesn’t want to be a bad footnote in history. Biggest deal ever! That’s gotta be worth something.

If this Harper kid is for real…he could rival the record next season. Never know…I’ve never seen him swing a wooden bat.

by RoscoeNats on Aug 15, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Matt Harrington has happened 1 time...

Strasburg will eventually sign somewhere. Just like Luke Hochevar did and like the past Nationals’ draft pick Crowe eventually will.

The Nats need to come off the money and pay for young talent rather than just filling the roster with guys like Adam Dunn and overpaying Austin Kearns.

If the Nats don’t sign Strasburg, you know the Yankees/Red Sox/Tigers/Dodgers/etc will. There is no Matt Harrington in Strasburg’s future.

by Boney on Aug 15, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Like Zim said....... you wanna go play for Pittsburgh???

"He's just a draft pick"... "It's not the end of the world if he doesn't sign"
FB dot com taking the right tone for the Strasburg issue. 8 Aug 09.

by cat daddy3000 on Aug 15, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and nobody knows where you went if you go to Kansas City....

"He's just a draft pick"... "It's not the end of the world if he doesn't sign"
FB dot com taking the right tone for the Strasburg issue. 8 Aug 09.

by cat daddy3000 on Aug 15, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the teams that will spend above slot

will draft him and sign him… no matter who it is. That’s how Detroit got where they are. It’s what you have to do

by Boney on Aug 15, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You never know....lots of high picks never pan out, but at least they signed.........

If Crow waits until before the next draft, people will start to forget him, too….

"He's just a draft pick"... "It's not the end of the world if he doesn't sign"
FB dot com taking the right tone for the Strasburg issue. 8 Aug 09.

by cat daddy3000 on Aug 15, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Crowe will screw himself if he waits

but then again, he was picked in the top half of the 1st round in a pitcher heavy draft… so

The Nationals knew what they were getting in to before the draft if they picked Strasburg and now the whole “we won’t negotiate in the media” statement goes out the window with the release of the “we offered Strasburg a record deal” statement by Kasten.

Kasten said in a press conference a month ago that some people think he’s the village idiot. well, he is

by Boney on Aug 15, 2009 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have little regard for Selig's lapdog, either.....Kasten shows his stripes at midnight Monday...

"He's just a draft pick"... "It's not the end of the world if he doesn't sign"
FB dot com taking the right tone for the Strasburg issue. 8 Aug 09.

by cat daddy3000 on Aug 16, 2009 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no undrafted player is worth what Prior signed for

We are blowing money out our @$$$ if we sign Strassburg. It is obvious he is not playing the game out of love, but out of windfall. We should pass and let someone else have him. I’ll bet my right arm he ends up less than Kris Benson in his career. Character is everything for the character of a team. Strassburg is showning me almost none.

"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James

by PhDBrian on Aug 16, 2009 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A comment from Ryan Zimmerman

“It’s important for any franchise that wants to keep moving forward and getting better to sign its top pick, but I guess there are certain limits to how much you can spend," said Nationals third baseman Ryan Zimmerman, who received a signing bonus of nearly $3 million after being drafted by Washington with the No. 4 overall pick in 2005. "At some point, he has to say how much money is enough before he even steps out onto the field."

Zimmerman added about Strasburg: "I’ve seen him on TV once or twice. He throws hard. He’s got good stuff. But again, you have to ask yourself: How much money can you make without ever throwing a pitch?"

Bob Carpenter and Rob Dibble also pointed out that Hall of Famer Tony Gwynn (who was also Strasburg’s college coach) said that Strasburg’s breaking ball wouldn’t fool any major league hitters. And one baseball analyst broke down the tape of Strasburg’s pitching mechanics, discovering that Strasburg’s arms form the shape of a “W” as he is throwing. This means that he is putting a lot of extra stress on his throwing shoulder, much more than a pitcher with a more upright arm angle during the throwing motion. The analyst (I forget who it was but it might have been one of the guys on ESPN’s “Baseball Tonight”) said that this could mean that Strasburg would have a greater chance of recurring injuries along the lines of a Pedro Martinez.

If Strasburg is set for life before ever throwing a single pitch in a professional game, where is his motivation to compete, improve and win? Why couldn’t he just go through the motions for a few years and then live off all of those millions? There have been other extremely gifted pro athletes with all the talent in the world who never worked that hard and ended up with disappointing careers. What does anyone really know about Strasburg’s motivation and drive at this point?

Just more reasons not to break the bank on one untested player. I’d rather see the team spend $50 million on a proven commodity like a past Cy Young Award winner/free agent still in his prime.

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Washington, first in war, first in peace, last in the NL East :(

by Potomac Fan on Aug 16, 2009 2:19 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I certainly am with you on the sentiment

Sadly, would couldnt get a Cy Young winner for $50m over 6 years… but that said, we probably could for $50m over 2.

My fearless prediction: Should the Nats not sign Stras. Look for Kasten to break his ‘premium free agent’ pitcher rule. Just have a gut feeling that he might change his mind on that.

Padilla walked into the Nats' clubhouse for the first time and said, "My God. I'm in heaven."

by Mezza on Aug 16, 2009 7:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

63 percent negative view of Strasburg so far

In our little poll, 63 percent have voted against Strasburg so far, with 57 total votes. I actually thought the numbers would have been more evenly balanced for and against Strasburg. I’m glad that I’m not the only one getting ticked off with the Boras/Strasburg nonsense.

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Washington, first in war, first in peace, last in the NL East :(

by Potomac Fan on Aug 16, 2009 8:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

after crowe we are a biased group

I wonder what the rest of SB nation would vote?

"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James

by PhDBrian on Aug 17, 2009 2:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I notice the other poll has over a thousand votes now and it’s closer than it was 10 hours ago. Over a thousand voted. The NO SIGN votes are catching up.

Huge day for the Nats.

ED, if you’re reading, you may need to put up a thread with a parental warning for bad language if the greedy little puke doesn’t sign.

by RoscoeNats on Aug 17, 2009 7:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Honestly, after all this mess I don’t know why any new guy would sign with Boras…Ok, I can think of a few million reasons why, but it seems like unless you’re proven in the league you’re not normally going to get that kind of money and having an agent like Boras immediately puts you against your potential fans and your potential front office. It’s like this kid’s saying, pay me, I don’t care about you or your concerns about my arm.

by snowburnt on Aug 17, 2009 11:47 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think it is the parents of the players

The mothers aren’t in this for the love of the game. The fathers are in this for the glory. The parents only care about the money, prestige and getting all the kid can get. Plus, we all know strasburgs name far better now that we have heard his story over and over. How many folks outside of natstown know Storen’s name? How many will remember him if he washes out? Granted storen did not go first overall, but I am sure I will remember this strasburg Boras story the rest of my life. Storen I will forget quickly unless he becomes a great player. Bad press is still press. Strasburgs name is now famous in baseball and he might get more endorsements out of it. I am sure someone told this to his parents!

"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James

by PhDBrian on Aug 17, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Problem is it is us fans that are the victoms in the end

We pay higher prices to watch the game we love.

"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James

by PhDBrian on Aug 17, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Endorsements? I hope not.

I wouldn’t buy something because Strasburg endorsed it. Just more money in his pocket. He’ll have enough money as it is, IF he signs.

Anyway, tick, tock. Tick, tock. Less than one hour to go…

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Washington, first in war, first in peace, last in the NL East :(

by Potomac Fan on Aug 17, 2009 11:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why not do a Dutch auction the next time?

In case you’re not familiar with a Dutch auction, the seller starts off with a high price and lowers it progressively until someone places a bid. That bid is the winning bid. Bidders have an incentive to bid sooner because they risk losing the item to someone else.

The Nats should have put a high offer on the table (though not a break-the-bank deal) right after the draft. They should have said, “Take this deal now or else every week you delay, we’ll drop the amount by 3 percent.”

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Washington, first in war, first in peace, last in the NL East :(

by Potomac Fan on Aug 18, 2009 12:11 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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