Stan Kasten On Scott Boras And Stephen Strasburg...
In an AP article published at ESPN.com within the last hour entitled, "Nats offer Strasburg record contract", Washington Nationals' team President Stan Kasten is quoted as having stated, "'With 48 hours to go, I simply have no idea whether we're going to be able to reach a deal,'" with the Washington Nationals' '09 #1 overall pick, right-handed pitcher Stephen Strasburg. In the first public comments from the Nationals outside of "Acting" DC GM Mike Rizzo's repeated assertions that the team will not negotiate with Strasburg and his agent Scott Boras through the media, Mr. Kasten goes on to describe what seems to have been the focus of the two sides' disagreement since before Washington picked the San Diego, California native:
"'This kid is so impressive. We have nothing but the highest regard for him. If he wants to come and begin his career right now -- and do so with the largest contract ever given to any drafted player in the history of Major League Baseball -- we can help him accomplish that,' Kasten told the AP. 'But if this is more about changing the whole way an industry does business, then we won't be able to reach a deal.'"
In the article, Mr. Kasten elaborates on what he means when he says that Scott Boras might be attempting to go about, "...changing the whole way an industry does business," explaining to the gathered press, as recounted by the AP reporter that he would, "...(characterize) Boras' approach as 'advocating a new methodology for evaluating draft picks' -- changing the way a draft pick's worth is determined." In conclusion, Mr. Kasten will only say that there is a, "...very real possibility, with 48 hours to go, that Stephen may choose not to sign with us."
Is Stan Kasten preparing fans of the Washington Nationals for the possibility that a deal will not be reached? Letting Strasburg and Boras know that they're not going to use the Nationals to further their agenda? Decide for yourself...
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"According to a Nationals Journal post by Washington Post writer Thomas Boswell entitled, 'Nats Offer Strasburg Record-Setting Contract', the Washington Nationals, '...have offered No. 1 overall draft pick Stephen Strasburg the largest contract ever for a pitcher taken in the amateur draft.'"
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Nothing but disregard for Boras
One thing Boras does not understand, nor will he ever: Holding out for huge contracts and playing hardball does not help his players. Reasons:
-Instantly creates bad will around the clubhouse for his client, who has stolen the spotlight every single time during these obscenely long holdouts. Doesn’t Boras know that a better team leads to a better results for his client which eventually leads to more money?
-Instantly creates bad will in the fan base towards the player. If the player struggles, he will get shipped out quicker and more acrimoniously than usual, which doesn’t lead to anyone getting paid.
-Holding out or waiting for another year to get drafted again, will almost always make less money for everyone involved. Strasburg, if he signed right now, would get a bunch of guaranteed money. Not only that, he would be walking into a franchise that wants/needs him and will obviously bend over backwards for him. There is no negative here for Stephen. Let’s say Strasburg refuses to sign and decides to be drafted elsewhere. The longer he doesn’t sign, the more money he isn’t getting paid and his value drops.
The only thing Boras understands is money, which is fine. But his greed is actually making him and his clients less money in the long run, thus defeating his own ideals.
The Rivalry, Esq.
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by grahamfiller10 on Aug 15, 2009 8:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How so?
Name players who Boras has screwed in the 3 ways you claim he screws his clients.
I’m not a supporter of Boras, but I also know this 1 important detail:
- The Nationals couldn’t sign their first pick last season, and reportedly have brought much of this wait in signing Strassburg upon themselves (2 weeks ago it was reported the Nationals hadn’t even made contact with the kid).
So… what’s ultimately going to happen on the 17th? Likely Strassburg will go back in the draft next season, he’ll pitch in an independent league and then the Nationals will be awarded the #1 pick and #2 pick next season and we start this whole process over again. Only this time, the Nats’ front office will openly campaign (complain) about not being able to sign “unproven” guys even though they are good enough to be drafted with the top 2 picks in the draft.
Again, I think Boras is a jerk. But this is just as much the Nats’ front office fault as it is Boras’ fault.
by Boney on Aug 15, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's one
J.D. Drew meets all three of those points
by salsa shark on Aug 16, 2009 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Couldnt agree with you more Graham
That is the number one problem with baseball is the greed of Scott Boras and his demanding of big contracts for unproven talent. Strausburg may turn out to be a great pitcher but he need to earn his A-Rod contract. This is unfair for the Nationals because this almost highway robbery by Boras demanding they pay Strausburg X amount of money, and the same thing will happen next year with Bryce Harper. There needs to be a rookie salary so teams don’t lose their top pick because they can’t throw Yankee money at them. Also if teams were allowed to trade their draft picks this also would’nt happen, cause the Red Sox or Yankees or Dodgers could trade with them and then give him the big contract if they want to. This just is’nt right for this team, they need him and Boras knows that and thats why he holding them up for a king’s ransom.
by TheDudeAbides9 on Aug 15, 2009 8:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Saving face?
Does this whole episode seem vaguely like the Texera deal? We wait until the last minute to say anything about the proposals to make it seem like they really tried and then drop the bomb on us on Monday that it was Boras’ fault. Strasburg wants to play in San Diego and will never sign with the Nats! I hope and pray, I am dead wrong because this will be another example of the botched, arrogant management style of the Lerner’s, who think they are making some kind of land deal for development. I feel for the faithful fans who have supported the team through thick, and mainly, thin play of the nifty Nats. This may be the straw that breaks the camel’s back. Season ticket holders will vote with their feet.
“Play the song again Sam” I’ve heard it before!
wxguy
by wxguy on Aug 15, 2009 9:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I fail to see where Boras' leverage is coming from
He allegedly wants to play in SD, but last I checked SD was 5th from the bottom and playing okay ball. He wants an obscene amount of money, but is he really going to risk a year off where Strasburg could be injured for more? And let’s assume he sits out a year. The Nats have the #1 pick again next year, and don’t they get the #2 pick as well? Either way, Strasburg’s draft stock cannot improve and if he doesn’t want to play in Washington then he won’t be the #1 player selected. So let’s say he doesn’t sign, he sits out a year, he refuses to go to Washington, he is the #2 or #3 player selected by Pittsburgh or Kansas City or Baltimore. Is he going to then sit out another year if a team won’t break the bank for the second player selected in the draft? And there’s still no guarantee that Washington won’t have the #1 pick in 2011. Either way, he’s risking injury in independent ball with a high probability that all it’ll accomplish is getting back to step one.
Maybe I’m missing something but I don’t buy that Boras and Strasburg have leverage over the Nats here, no doubt in my mind that if the Nats legitimately did give him a record-setting contract that he’ll sign.
by 40AS on Aug 15, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Strasburg and Boras have leverage in this
because it will be embarrassing to an organization who hasn’t signed their #1 picks 2 years in a row. The kid is one of the most highly touted amateur prospects to hit the draft in several years.
The only thing it could possibly change is the amount of money that is slotted for these guys and their picks. I don’t know how well that would go over with the player’s association unless the slots were made as maximums rather than how the NBA does it.
by Boney on Aug 15, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not so sure. They have leverage, in that they have Strasburg, but the Nationals have the money, and if Strasburg wants to play this year, he needs to deal with the Nats. If he waits, any team that drafts him isn’t going to be a rich team (worst record the year before), so I don’t know if he’s going to get any better than what the Nats can offer.
Also, the more I hear about Crow the more I think it’s his fault he didn’t sign. He’s causing KC some real problems right now.
by John Quinn on Aug 15, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bingo.
Also, moving forward, the sooner Strasburg signs, the sooner he gets to free agency. Boras knows that too, I’m sure, and provided he can be retained through FA (which I’d bet he is), he’s taking that into account. Both sides have pretty significant need to get Strasburg in a big league system.
Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs
by Graysnail on Aug 15, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The state
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Aug 15, 2009 11:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
The statement today not only reminded me of the Tex deal...
…but also the Vlad Guerrero fiasco, the post Soriano stories…(though the Cubs have Sori)…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Aug 15, 2009 11:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Ah yes, all the excuses for failure because a player wanted to go somewhere where they might have a chance to win...
"He's just a draft pick"... "It's not the end of the world if he doesn't sign"
FB dot com taking the right tone for the Strasburg issue. 8 Aug 09.
by cat daddy3000 on Aug 15, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Won't it be nice to be a team people want to play for? Not Last Resort NatsTown™!!!
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Aug 16, 2009 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Short article on the subject. I’d tell you who wrote it, but then you wouldn’t click ;)
I think [author] is spot on.
by John Quinn on Aug 15, 2009 11:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"Kid, if you want Respect you have to earn it, if you want to be hated as much as your agent Scott Boras, hold out and go pitch in independent league baseball. "
The tatted wise man is correct……….
"He's just a draft pick"... "It's not the end of the world if he doesn't sign"
FB dot com taking the right tone for the Strasburg issue. 8 Aug 09.
by cat daddy3000 on Aug 15, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gammons...via MLBTR
•Gammons says that most baseball people think the Nationals will sign Stephen Strasburg “if negotiations with Scott Boras do not get contentious.” He guesstimates that Strasburg could get $22MM for three years, which would allow him to go to arbitration for three years and land another big payday. Or three.
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Aug 16, 2009 12:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This all sounds very Y2K to me...
And I didn’t buy a survival kit…and the world still turns.
Padilla walked into the Nats' clubhouse for the first time and said, "My God. I'm in heaven."
by Mezza on Aug 16, 2009 12:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this is one time i don't want to be right...
but i’m going to be right. the Nats will offer Strasburg enough money to be able to say, on Tuesday, that they offered him the most money to an amatuer ever, and the player walked away.
i said at the very beginning, that the Nats will sign Strasburg only under one condition: if Scott Boras does not want to blow up the draft. well, Scott Boras wants to blow up the draft, and he’s willing to sacrifice this player’s health, wealth and honor.
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Aug 16, 2009 2:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I said a few weeks ago...
…that if the kid walks away from record money (15 – 18 mmmmillion dollars) that the Nats and their media will absolutely skewer Boras in the press. They’ll say what they offered and how insane it is that Boras has so much power. You know what? If the kid won’t sign for that money, I will actually be on the side of the Nationals.
The problem would be, they could never shoose another Boras or Hendricks client again. Once that cat’s out of the bag, it’s all over.
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Aug 16, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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