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Stephen Strasburg: Sunday Evening Update? $17-$20 Million? Whaaat?

Scott Boras, Stephen Strasburg's agent, in a picture from several weeks back, will have to make a decision on Strasburg's future within the next 29 1/2 hours...tick tock, tick tock... (AP Photo/Lenny Ignelzi)

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Scott Boras, Stephen Strasburg's agent, in a picture from several weeks back, will have to make a decision on Strasburg's future within the next 29 1/2 hours...tick tock, tick tock... (AP Photo/Lenny Ignelzi)

Earlier this afternoon, while the Washington Nationals were busy beating the Cincinnati RedsWashington Post writer Chico Harlan posted a Nationals Journal story entitled, "Source: Nats Must Increase Offer To Strasburg", which quoted an anonymous source, "who requested anonymity because of the sensitivity of negotiations", explaining that the Nationals' supposedly record-setting offer to '09 #1 overall pick, pitcher Stephen Strasburg, would, "...have to grow if Strasburg was to sign." Following today's game, MASNSports.com writer Roch Kubatko published an article entitled, "Fit to be tied", that finally put a number behind the Nationals' claim of having offered a record-breaking deal. Mr. Kubatko is citing his own anonymous "Sources close to the negotiations" who claim that the Nationals' offer is for $17 million, "...with easily attainable incentives that could push it beyond $20 million." 

 ?'s For the DC Faithful... 

• Can Strasburg walk away from $17 million?

• Is there any chance a deal gets done tonight? Or any time before the last minute?

• Is Strasburg worth $20 million?

• Do you put any stock in anonymous sources? Or just assume they're carrying out an agenda? 

More news when it's available...

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Will The Washington Nationals Sign Stephen Strasburg? Yes Or No?
Yes. Stephen Strasburg Will Be A National On August 18th.
794 votes
No. The Nationals Will Not Be Able To Reach An Agreement With Stephen Strasburg.
813 votes

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I think I had $20-25m in the Stras Sweeps?

We should have had a friendly wager…

If he walks from $20m… have the Nats tried hard enough? Or do we hold out for $30m?

Padilla walked into the Nats' clubhouse for the first time and said, "My God. I'm in heaven."

by Mezza on Aug 16, 2009 7:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

From Tan Stan’s statement the other day, I don’t think they’ll double the highest ever signing bonus.

I’d still stick with 15-18.

by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Aug 16, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nah if they are 17m now (if u believe the above), they’d have to be ready to move up by midnight on the deadline – dont u think?

Im still laughing at Dibbles rant…
http://masnsports.com/2009/08/a-message-for-stephen-strasbur.html

Padilla walked into the Nats' clubhouse for the first time and said, "My God. I'm in heaven."

by Mezza on Aug 16, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

From the Stan interview, I just fdon’t think they will double the highest bonus ever.

by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Aug 16, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well I think its fair to say they wont be paying $50m.

Padilla walked into the Nats' clubhouse for the first time and said, "My God. I'm in heaven."

by Mezza on Aug 16, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And why should they?

It will create enormous discord within the clubhouse, IMHO.
When mild-mannered FOF Zimmerman has such harsh words as he had yesterday, you know that lots of people are disgruntled and/or disgusted with the Boras idiocy.
Strasburg will enter the league with a target on him…with no friends…and every player he faces ready to punk him. Sounds like fun to me. Eye roll.

I'm a great believer in luck and I find the harder I work, the more I have of it. -
Thomas Jefferson

by MissB on Aug 16, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

heh

Im with you and Dibs… I’d take the $325k that Hanson took and go for the ROY canidate over the big pay cheque.

Somewhere along the line someone forgot to tell this kid that he has to get to the majors first.

Padilla walked into the Nats' clubhouse for the first time and said, "My God. I'm in heaven."

by Mezza on Aug 16, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kasten’s final words to Strasburg when the Nats make their final offer…"Kid, money is nice and all, but if you have 24 guys on your team who hate your mother-loving guts, it won’t be very pleasant for you…and that goes for next year too if you turn us down. "

by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Aug 16, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve got a gut feeling that he’ll sign. I dont know what im basing that on (male intuition). I just think he wont want to go another year outside the majors and he’ll take it.

Padilla walked into the Nats' clubhouse for the first time and said, "My God. I'm in heaven."

by Mezza on Aug 16, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

If I were Boras and the kid was going to sign based on the Nats alleged offer from last week this is exactly how I’d play it. They aren’t going to rescind the offer and what’s the harm in waiting until 11:55 tomorrow night to see if you can get your client more money?

by 40AS on Aug 16, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Glad he said it

Though Dibble may grate on some people, I like his honesty and direct words, especially in this situation. He’s absolutely right. Strasburg is coming off as a greedy b*stard already. If he refuses to sign and claims that $20 million is not enough, then to h*ll with him. I hope he has a lot of fun pitching in Wyoming or South Dakota or wherever they have independent leagues these days. And I hope he has plenty of injury insurance in case anything ever goes wrong with his arm and he doesn’t sign this week.

Strasburg is NOT worth $50 million. Not even close. One pitcher will not make or break the team. Sure, it would be great to have a true superstar but he has yet to show that he actually will be a major league superstar. I hope he gets the cold shoulder for years to come from people around baseball. I know I’d never buy anything Strasburg-related. And I wouldn’t accept a Strasburg bobble-head doll.

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Washington, first in war, first in peace, last in the NL East :(

by Potomac Fan on Aug 16, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know I had $25-$30M in the pool

Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs

by Graysnail on Aug 17, 2009 6:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

More Boras bashing.

This one is quite funny.

EAST HAMPTON, NY—Scott Boras has long been known as a tough negotiator. That reputation was bolstered yesterday when the super agent demanded $35 million to rescue a small child drowning in the ocean near Boras’s home in East Hampton, New York.

The child, an eight-year-old named Danny Corgin, was swimming at a private beach when he was caught in the undertow and dragged away. As he flailed and cried for help, Boras relaxed on the deck of his luxury yacht. The boy’s grandmother pleaded with Boras to help, but the agent steadfastly refused, holding steady to his demand for $35 million dollars.

"My grandson was swimming around when all of a sudden he was caught in a riptide and dragged out to sea," said Ethel Corgin, the boy’s grandmother. "I didn’t know what to do. There was nobody else around and I certainly couldn’t help him. I saw that man relaxing on his yacht, reading a book like there was nothing going on. When I asked for his help, he just said ‘You want me to save a drowning child? Hmmm…that kind of thing will run you around 35 million.’ I tried to negotiate with him, but he was unwavering. I’ve never seen anyone so stubborn, greedy, and heartless in my life. What is he, a sports agent?"

Corgin said that she was struck by Boras’s casual demeanor, even as her grandson struggled to stay afloat in the vicious riptide.

"He was panicking, the poor thing. He thought he was going to drown, I’m sure," she said. "There was nothing I could do but pray. I thought for sure that [Boras] would help but he really wanted that money. He said I could give him 10 million up front and sign a written guarantee to deliver the rest within a week. He had the contracts already made up. He just whited out ‘third baseman’ and added ‘drowning child.’"

In the end, a deal was not struck. Fortunately, a fishing boat came by and plucked young Danny out of the water before he could drown. Corgin was relieved, but still outraged over Boras’s refusal to rescue her grandson.

For his part, Boras explained that he was just exercising good business sense and prudent negotiating.

"How much is an eight-year old boy’s life worth?" asked Boras. "Can you really ever say ‘No- that’s too expensive. I’d rather just let the boy drown?’ No, of course not. I was shocked when Mrs. Keelan refused my offer to save the boy. If you’re not willing to shell out a few bucks to save the life of a child, you’ve got to take a long look in the mirror. Nothing’s free in this world. If you want something, you have to pay for it. It’s called ‘capitalism.’ Obviously Mrs. Corgin is some kind of godless commie freak."

Padilla walked into the Nats' clubhouse for the first time and said, "My God. I'm in heaven."

by Mezza on Aug 16, 2009 8:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh, geez...the Nationals are the drowning 8-year old in that story aren't they...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Ed Chigliak on Aug 16, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't worry, Ed....

a fishing boat is coming to save the Nats!

I'm a great believer in luck and I find the harder I work, the more I have of it. -
Thomas Jefferson

by MissB on Aug 16, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The SS Strasburg?

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Ed Chigliak on Aug 16, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Probably the SS Dominican Republic

or SS Syracuse

I'm a great believer in luck and I find the harder I work, the more I have of it. -
Thomas Jefferson

by MissB on Aug 16, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought we'd settled on SS Minnow?

Padilla walked into the Nats' clubhouse for the first time and said, "My God. I'm in heaven."

by Mezza on Aug 16, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is seriously funny...

It sort of reminds me of this article about Madoff written by Woody Allen:
Madoff Article

I'm a great believer in luck and I find the harder I work, the more I have of it. -
Thomas Jefferson

by MissB on Aug 16, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bucs fan here

I’ve been following the negotiations, and boy, is this crazy!

I m astonished at where this seems to be going, but if the final contract goes above $20 m, I will be shocked. I thought, and still do, that he will sign in the $12 m range (perhaps with incentives for another $3 m). I certainly dont see Strasburg getting more if he signs next year, with the very real possibility of any injury messing things up completely. There is only one direction for him to go and that is down (as far as the draft is concerned). If any issues arise, and he ends up at (say) 10th pick, he’ll be lucky to get more than 5-6m.

by BurgherKing on Aug 16, 2009 8:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

everything said

i have little doubt he will sign

by BurgherKing on Aug 16, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've said $20 million for a while now, so this is falling right where I think it should...

Maybe the Nationals should really stick it to Boras by overpaying for Strasburg and then letting the fact that they were forced to pay such an extraordinary amount argue for the Slotting system Boras wants to desperately to avoid.

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Ed Chigliak on Aug 16, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

(edit) "think it should" should probably read, "thought it would"...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Ed Chigliak on Aug 16, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't even think they have to do that.

Most of the owners …and players are ready to adopt a slotting like the NBA.
so once again, despite saying it’s for the draftees, it’s really so that boras can get as much $$$ for himself as possible …in advance of hte slotting system.
Jerk.

I'm a great believer in luck and I find the harder I work, the more I have of it. -
Thomas Jefferson

by MissB on Aug 16, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah...Jerk.

(Were we calling Ed a jerk? Right on. Just kidding.)

by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Aug 16, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, anybody who thinks Debbie is as good as Amber

has got to be a jerk.
Heh.
Oh Ed, we keed, we keed.

I'm a great believer in luck and I find the harder I work, the more I have of it. -
Thomas Jefferson

by MissB on Aug 16, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Deb Rulz!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Ed Chigliak on Aug 16, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

heh

Can we have one conversation on this site that doesnt result in a Amber v Deb war?

We’d all know Amber would win… :)

Padilla walked into the Nats' clubhouse for the first time and said, "My God. I'm in heaven."

by Mezza on Aug 16, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

DEB!!! DEB!! DEB!!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Ed Chigliak on Aug 16, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

heehee

There is that hand on hip thing that MissB always loves.


“um…Ed, you had a great blog today… tell me what is…um…going through your mind?”

Padilla walked into the Nats' clubhouse for the first time and said, "My God. I'm in heaven."

by Mezza on Aug 16, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

From the twitter

kingclip Scouts think Bryce Harper is awesome, but he’s not the best HS player ever, or even of the decade. #1 pick in ’10? Sure. Historic? no way.

The author of the above is…Bio National Writer, Scouting and Player Development for Baseball Prospectus

by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Aug 16, 2009 9:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I dont want to go thru this again

Lets get on and beat the Pirates and Royals and not have to think about this nonsense again.

Padilla walked into the Nats' clubhouse for the first time and said, "My God. I'm in heaven."

by Mezza on Aug 16, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

really?

My bad…. you’ll have to post one… we cant let Ed win.

Padilla walked into the Nats' clubhouse for the first time and said, "My God. I'm in heaven."

by Mezza on Aug 16, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

1st round talent.

Padilla walked into the Nats' clubhouse for the first time and said, "My God. I'm in heaven."

by Mezza on Aug 16, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

She looks well-fed...... is that food she's holding???

"He's just a draft pick"... "It's not the end of the world if he doesn't sign"
FB dot com taking the right tone for the Strasburg issue. 8 Aug 09.

by cat daddy3000 on Aug 16, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uh-oh, the raccoons have taken over the asylum!

"If somebody hasn't seen me, I try to leave a good impression on their mind, so they come back to enjoy this beautiful game of baseball." --Tony Plush

by Doghouse on Aug 16, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

#3 thinks the chicks could do with more eye makeup, if they really wanted to be attractive...

"He's just a draft pick"... "It's not the end of the world if he doesn't sign"
FB dot com taking the right tone for the Strasburg issue. 8 Aug 09.

by cat daddy3000 on Aug 16, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Those long legs on #2 though, you know he/she's going off a bit no?

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Ed Chigliak on Aug 16, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

going = showing...tried to be quick should have been carefuller....

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Ed Chigliak on Aug 16, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks..... parsing madly and coming up empty....
  1. is the “pink Amber” of the bunch…

"He's just a draft pick"... "It's not the end of the world if he doesn't sign"
FB dot com taking the right tone for the Strasburg issue. 8 Aug 09.

by cat daddy3000 on Aug 16, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

#2 is the "pink Amber" of the bunch….....

 stupid auto formatting….

"He's just a draft pick"... "It's not the end of the world if he doesn't sign"
FB dot com taking the right tone for the Strasburg issue. 8 Aug 09.

by cat daddy3000 on Aug 16, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bad picture

"There's only one cure for what's wrong with all of us pitchers, and that's to take a year off. Then, after you've gone a year without throwing, quit altogether." -Jim Palmer

by Baltimo on Aug 16, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I prefer the other Amber above

"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James

by PhDBrian on Aug 17, 2009 2:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So did I!

But I’d prefer the racoons to Deb…(if it gets cold enough)

Padilla walked into the Nats' clubhouse for the first time and said, "My God. I'm in heaven."

by Mezza on Aug 17, 2009 5:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

List Of First Round Draft Picks To Sign

1.Washington Nationals – Stephen Strasburg
2.Seattle Mariners – Dustin Ackley
3.San Diego Padres – Donavan Tate
4.Pittsburgh Pirates – Tony Sanchez – Agreed on a bonus of about $2.5MM.
5.Baltimore Orioles – Matt Hobgood – Agreed to sign for about $2.4MM.
6.San Francisco Giants – Zack Wheeler
7.Atlanta Braves – Mike Minor – Agreed to terms on a $2.42MM bonus.
8.Cincinnati Reds – Mike Leake – Signed to a bonus of $2.27MM.
9.Detroit Tigers – Jacob Turner
10.Washington Nationals – Drew Storen – Agreed on a bonus of about $1.6MM.
11.Colorado Rockies – Tyler Matzek
12.Kansas City Royals – Aaron Crow
13.Oakland A’s – Grant Green
14.Texas Rangers – Matt Purke
15.Cleveland Indians – Alex White
16.Arizona Diamondbacks – Bobby Borchering – Signed for $1.8MM.
17.Arizona Diamondbacks – A.J. Pollock – Signed, bonus believed to be $1.4MM.
18.Florida Marlins – Chad James – Agreed to terms on a $1.7MM bonus.
19.St. Louis Cardinals – Shelby Miller
20.Toronto Blue Jays – Chad Jenkins – Agreed to sign for a bonus of $1.36MM.

"He's just a draft pick"... "It's not the end of the world if he doesn't sign"
FB dot com taking the right tone for the Strasburg issue. 8 Aug 09.

by cat daddy3000 on Aug 16, 2009 10:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Kevin Goldstein of Baseball Prospectus said via Twitter that he has “reason to believe Donavan Tate has signed with the Padres for 6.5 million dollars.” While the deal may not be finalized, Padres beat writer Corey Brock said the number sounds about right.

"He's just a draft pick"... "It's not the end of the world if he doesn't sign"
FB dot com taking the right tone for the Strasburg issue. 8 Aug 09.

by cat daddy3000 on Aug 16, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aw, she's probably accepted the inevitable........but it puts the Strasburg Bucks in a little more perspective...

"He's just a draft pick"... "It's not the end of the world if he doesn't sign"
FB dot com taking the right tone for the Strasburg issue. 8 Aug 09.

by cat daddy3000 on Aug 16, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

C'mon Crow, take the $3M!!!! Or DC's definitely taking you and Harper!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Ed Chigliak on Aug 16, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pretty generous for a #12 pick, I'd say...

Too bad the owners are such wimps and won’t pass on Boras clients…

"He's just a draft pick"... "It's not the end of the world if he doesn't sign"
FB dot com taking the right tone for the Strasburg issue. 8 Aug 09.

by cat daddy3000 on Aug 16, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We dont want him!

Padilla walked into the Nats' clubhouse for the first time and said, "My God. I'm in heaven."

by Mezza on Aug 16, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Crow signs......

he gets to look forward to playing for the Northwest Arkansas Naturals (AA) then up to the Omaha Royals (AAA) Pacific Coast League, Rosenblatt Stadium as he works his way through the system.

Not really places where careers are made…….but neither is KC…

"He's just a draft pick"... "It's not the end of the world if he doesn't sign"
FB dot com taking the right tone for the Strasburg issue. 8 Aug 09.

by cat daddy3000 on Aug 16, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have to say

Its not guaranteed that we’re going to be #1 pick next year. Say the Pirates or Roayls take that honour…im not sure Stras is set for a bigger pay day to be honest. And his leverage is actually much worse (is he going to wait out another year?). I think the Crow debacle has shown as much.

And playing for the Pirates or KC is not a good way to go (and that’s saying something as a Nats fan).

Padilla walked into the Nats' clubhouse for the first time and said, "My God. I'm in heaven."

by Mezza on Aug 16, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Standings for worst team as of now.

Games ahead of…

Kansas City 3.5
Pittsburgh 4
San Diego 5.5
Baltimore 5.5

by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Aug 16, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

WOO-HOO!! #1!!! uh, worst...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Ed Chigliak on Aug 16, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whoohoo!

We’ve got to beat the Royals…

Padilla walked into the Nats' clubhouse for the first time and said, "My God. I'm in heaven."

by Mezza on Aug 16, 2009 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

17-8 loss... in a 13-inning game?

The Orioles were in a close battle with the Angels today, tied 8-8 and into extra innings. Until they gave up NINE RUNS in the 13th inning! Whoa! I don’t think even the Nats’ early-season bullpen ever did anything like that. That’s almost as bad as giving up 30 runs like the O’s did a couple years ago.

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Washington, first in war, first in peace, last in the NL East :(

by Potomac Fan on Aug 17, 2009 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OUCH

The Angels’ 9 runs in the 13th today is most by any team in an extra inning since San Diego scored 9 at Philly in the 10th on 5-28-95.

by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Aug 17, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Im just glad it isnt us…

Padilla walked into the Nats' clubhouse for the first time and said, "My God. I'm in heaven."

by Mezza on Aug 17, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was watching and changed the channel when they gave up 2 in the 13th...

…went back and it was 17-8. Very ouch.

Catch y’all tomorrow. Big day. Need my 5 hours of sleep.

by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Aug 17, 2009 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Been bringing this up in all of the national stories regarding Strasburg

Bear in mind that at the All-Star Break, here were the five worst teams in baseball:

Nats 26-61
Cleveland 35-54 (8 games)
San Diego 36-52 (9.5 games)
Kansas City 37-51 (10.5 games)
Pittsburgh 38-50 (11.5 games)

August 1

Nats 32-72
Kansas City 40-63 (8.5 games)
San Diego 43-62 (10.5 games)
Cleveland 43-61 (11 games)
Oakland/Baltimore 44-59 (12.5 games)

Through Sunday, August 16 (today):

Nats 43-75 (does anyone else want to celebrate that it’s now mathematically impossible to tie the 1962 Mets with 120 losses?!)
Kansas City 46-71 (3.5 games)
Pittsburgh 46-70 (4 games)
Baltimore 48-69 (5.5 games)
San Diego 49-70 (5.5 games)

Over the past month, they’ve gained 7 games on the Royals, 7.5 games on the Pirates (who, as many of you liked to point out negatively [and I like to think is a positive thing] traded off the majority of their big league talent), 8 games on the Orioles, and 4 games on the Padres.

The Nats have won 11 of their past 14 games… 15 of their past 22…. 17 of 31 since the Mannyger has been gone after the All-Star Break.

Do I think they continue to play over .500 ball the rest of the way? I sincerely doubt it, though I’d love to see it. Honestly, they did hit a friendly portion of the schedule. If there are teams that the Nats “should beat” (theoretically there aren’t, as they have the worst record in the league, but at least do better against), they are teams like the Pirates (2 out of 4), the Reds (3 out of 4), the Diamondbacks (54-64…. swept them in three at home. It’s worth noting that the Nats took 2 out of 3 in the BOB when they played in May), and the Padres (2 out of 3). There were some surprises in there as well… the home sweep of the man who killed baseball in Montreal’s Marlins (!), a solid road split with the Brew Crew, and taking 2 out of 3 at home from the New Orleans Zephy…. I mean the New York Mets.

Again, I’d love to see the strong play continue, and it’ll mean a bit more if they’re playing as successfully against teams like the Rockies, Cubs, Cards, and then the tour through the NL East in September. Still, I think that the Nats might not even have to play .400 ball the rest of the way (remember…. they’re playing almost .550 ball in 31 games since the break) to surpass the Royals and/or Pirates. I think that they’re going to.

Back on topic…. let’s hope that he signs tomorrow night, but that it doesn’t completely break the bank. Day off tomorrow for the club, so Rizzo and Kasten can focus all their attention on it.

by bluelineswinger on Aug 17, 2009 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would rather and think we can play .500 or better ball the rest of the way

we are right now the winningest NL team in August I believe.

"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James

by PhDBrian on Aug 17, 2009 2:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hear Hochevar brought up, but he was a lower pick and gained a 1st round pick the next year...

Strasburg’s got nowhere to go but down and the next team can say “take it or leave it”, too…..

"He's just a draft pick"... "It's not the end of the world if he doesn't sign"
FB dot com taking the right tone for the Strasburg issue. 8 Aug 09.

by cat daddy3000 on Aug 16, 2009 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think that's the telling point for me

If Harper is the next best thing as sliced bread… Stras could lose a lot going as #2…or even #3 (which if the Nats had picks 2 and 3…id be taking him at 3 to make a point). By which case the ‘slot’ would be worse…and you could say…we’re not paying #1 money for a #3 pick. He could refuse the nats and run the risk of going as low as #4.

So I actially think there is a lot to be said by beating out the Royals in this race…leaves the Nats nicely positioned.

Padilla walked into the Nats' clubhouse for the first time and said, "My God. I'm in heaven."

by Mezza on Aug 16, 2009 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd like to catch all those teams listed above and drop to the middle top ten...

Let the others have the headaches in a crapshoot…Strasburg can look at Crow and drop right out of the top ten next year…

"He's just a draft pick"... "It's not the end of the world if he doesn't sign"
FB dot com taking the right tone for the Strasburg issue. 8 Aug 09.

by cat daddy3000 on Aug 17, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We're playing above .500 ball in recent weeks

The Nats are now 17-14 over the past 31 games. The rest of the season could go similarly. If so, the Nats will pass at least a couple teams in the overall MLB standings.

I’m glad Crow isn’t getting the big payday he was expecting this year. The Nats made out pretty well in getting Drew Storen as the compensatory pick. If Strasburg doesn’t sign this year, we’ll just get another high draft pick next year to go along with the regular pick, which will also be a high one (top 2 or 3).

As for the other hot-button issue here, I’ll just say that I’m a Deb fan. Haven’t seen enough O’s games this decade to really have an opinion about Amber though I don’t hate her. Seems nice enough but I still vote for Debbie.

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Washington, first in war, first in peace, last in the NL East :(

by Potomac Fan on Aug 16, 2009 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

One analyst speaking about Crow said that he should be thrilled to have the chance to play for KC. They are the closest thing he has to a home team and he’s behaving like this.

Also, if Amber and Debbi were on the radio and not tv, I’d still pick Amber. Just so much better at interviewing people and reporting on the minors.

by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Aug 17, 2009 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

He grew up in Topeka (couple of hundred miles west of KC) and played his college ball in Columbia, Missouri (couple of hundred miles east of KC). It’s almost smack dab in the middle. Easily the closest thing he had to a hometown team, though I would be less than surprised to learn that he’s a Cardinals or Cubs fan. Midwesterners without a team in a 100 mile radius seem to flock to the two.

by bluelineswinger on Aug 17, 2009 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

strassberg

OMG ! where is this idiots father ? has he ever heard of Tommy John surgery ? Does he not know there is risk ? SONNY !!!!Take the money now !!! Scott Boras tell his dad what he can buy for 20 million that he couldn"t buy for 17 million !!! in fact ,,,tell all us you pimp !!!

by miamisburger on Aug 17, 2009 1:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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