Washington Nationals: Non-Waiver Trade Deadline, Stephen Strasburg Deadline, My Thoughts...
Last Friday, after the Non-Waiver Trade Deadline had passed and the Washington Nationals had sent first baseman Nick Johnson to the Florida Marlins in exchange for former 1st Round pick, twenty-two-year-old left-hander Aaron Thompson, "Acting" DC GM Mike Rizzo told MLB.com's Bill Ladson, as quoted in an article entitled, "Nats part ways with Johnson, Beimel", that the Nationals had been forced to trade the "Last Expo", The Discerning Eye™, the Trademark Single™-Hitting Federal Baseball.com Favorite because:
"'He was a free agent after the season," Rizzo said. "After a few attempts to extend his contract, we thought it would be better for the organization to trade him and get the prospect that we want. Then, [the Nationals will] decide over the winter if we wanted to go after him free agent-wise, or not."
Asked for his thoughts on the trade, Nick Johnson told Mr. Ladson he understood that, "'It's part of the game.," and the "Last Expo" left open the possibility that he might return as a free agent according to Washington Post writer Chico Harlan, who wrote in his article entitled, "Trade Deadline Moves: Johnson to Florida, Beimel To Colorado", that though they couldn't agree on a deal, "Both Rizzo and Johnson acknowledged a chance that the first baseman will re-sign with the Nationals this offseason as a free agent," though Nick Johnson seemed to welcome the change of scenery, telling Washington Times' writer Mark Zuckerman, as quoted in Mr. Zuckerman's article entitled, "Johnson, Beimel dealt at the deadline":
"'I've got a lot of friends on the team, but I'm going somewhere else...'It's about winning, and [the Marlins are] a good young team.'"
The next day, before his first game with Florida...
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The next day, before his first game with Florida, Johnson told MLB.com writer David Villavicencio, in his article, "Johnson joins Marlins, excited to compete", that he was, "...excited about joining a team that's in a pennant race," after all the years spent struggling to stay out of the NL East's basement with Montreal and Washington:
"'It was tough,' Johnson said of his time with the Nationals. 'In Washington, we didn't win a lot of games. I haven't been in something like this in a while. I'm really excited about it and I'll enjoy it. I've come to a team that has a chance to win, and that's what you play for. You don't play for .500 ball.'"
Well, you might think, at least the Washington Nationals did attempt to sign Nick Johnson to an extension, that's the story, according to all reports, and the fact that he wouldn't do so forced the Nationals to trade him, that's how it went down. MLB.com's Bill Ladson's blog post entitled, "Nationals had to trade Johnson", stated so clearly, after the fact, in a post deadline post where Mr. Ladson wrote:
"Interim general manager Mike Rizzo didn't have a choice but to trade Nick Johnson because the latter did not want to negotiate an extension with the Nationals."
But why didn't Nick Johnson want to sign an extension with DC? Why would he? Moving to the Florida Marlins, (a team that started '09 with a $36.834 million dollar payroll --as opposed to Washington's poorly allocated $60.328M --, and a tendency to trade every arbitration eligible player they have, (see Willingham, Josh and Olsen, Scott, etc.), dismantling their roster every couple years and rebuilding by drafting well (see Johnson, Josh, West, Sean, Stanton, Mike), and robbing desperate teams of their top draft picks (see Ramirez, Hanley, Sanchez, Anibal, Maybin, Cameron, etc.), is seen as a step up from playing baseball in DC. The Florida Marlins, according to Nick Johnson, are seen as a place where a player has a chance to compete in a pennant race rather than, "...play for .500 ball," and Florida's getting a brand new ballpark next season, which only makes that franchise more attractive to free agents...
So, it comes down to the same question all of DC has been asking while one free agent after another has signed elswhere over the last few winters, (...with the notable exception, of course, being Adam Dunn, but let's remember, if we're being honest, Dunn only signed with DC when it was clear that no one else was going to offer more than the Nationals would for his services, since most people then, and now, view the 29-year-old slow-footed outfielder as a DH rather than an everyday player)...So, why would anyone want to sign with the Washington Nationals?
The Nationals are in a constant state of re-construction. They've gone through two GM's and are on their third Manager in 5 seasons, and the current GM is still an "Acting" GM and the new manager Jim Riggleman has interim-and-out written all over him, as the Nationals have often publicly stated that they're still exploring possibities at each position, which means that the franchise will most likely be on its third GM and fourth Manager by the time they take the field in 2010, and even though Mike Rizzo assured the Nationals' fan-base, in the Washington Times' Mark Zuckerman's article after the Non-Waiver deadline, "'We are in a building process. We are not rebuilding...This is a team that is, in my opinion, not far away from being a good, solid baseball team,'" there's no guarantee Mr. Rizzo will even be with DC to see that process through the end of this season...
It's no wonder that members of "the Strasburg camp" are expressing concerns about '09 #1 overall Draft pick Stephen Strasburg joining the Washington Nationals. Washington Post writer Chico Harlan wrote two weeks back, in a Nationals Journal post entitled, "Nats' GM Uncertainties a Concern for Strasburg", that Strasburg's people viewed DC as a "rudderless organization", and whether you believe that's simply Strasburg's agent Scott Boras' posturing or the honest opinion of a draft pick examining the situation he'll be stepping into if he does decide to sign, the fact of the matter is that right now, at this moment in time, the Washington Nationals are not an attractive destination for players who want a chance to compete at the major league level. I want to believe Mr. Rizzo's assessment of the situation, and I hope he's here when the team finally turns the corner so he can remind us all he was right when he said Washington was close to, "...being a good, solid baseball team." [points to head]. The Nationals now have 14 days to convince Stephen Strasburg of the same...
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A bit doom and gloom
Despite a horrible record and some trades which don’t amount to a hill of beans, Im not as pessimistic nor do I think the team is in a constant state of reconstruction. But I can understand where you are coming from. I think the team is far better off than it was the last few years when it was comprised with a journeyman rotation filled with talentless veterans and position players who either were way past their prime…or never had a prime.
I admit that losing Nick was a blow, I think the team will lose his leadership, defense and good bat – but I dont think he was future of the team. We saw 2 seasons of NJ on the bench with some bad injuries (most of which were a result of bad luck). And I think there were other 1B options within the league and free agency that could do the job. We got through seasons without Nick…we will in the future.
But I’ve taken some positives from this crappy season. I think the rotation is a ace away from being very competitive. We’ve had one pitcher who is played his way into ROY contention which has impressed me heaps. Another wasnt even on the radar and now has a chance to be an everyday player. And some of the minor league position players are looking well. With Jesus back – we’re a SS and a 2B away from having a good team. I think the outfield of Hammer, Morgan and Dukes has a touch of 95 Braves about it. Bullpen needs some work…but I think a proven closer away from getting it largely under control. Apart from MissB – I dont see many crying for Beimel…despite him being a decent pitcher – there is plently more where that came from.
I think the prospects take time to bring through a system which was badly run down. With a core group of pitching which now is starting to look good – Id be keen to see the FO go onto the market to meet some of the needs and give this crop a chance to win. I think the team needs to sign Stras. I think they need some players at the top of the game to bolster the infield…maybe Guz will play better next season. Or maybe he might be backup for a new SS. I dont think we need major acquisitions in the outfield.
Sadly, its been a frustrating season, again. But I think we’re actually on the up curve of being a better team rather than on the way down… its not like they traded Zim.
"On this team, the difference between Clippard and Julian Tavarez is like the difference between a 6-2 loss and a 9-2 loss." -- Chico Harlan
by Mezza on Aug 3, 2009 4:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't disagree with what you cite as positives...
Or what you say DC needs(closer, middle infield), but what I find troublesome is the fact that they’re once again looking for a new GM and Manager, and still haven’t signed the #1 overall pick…some guy named Strasberry or something…and still don’t give many reasons for free agents to select DC as a destination…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Aug 3, 2009 11:35 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Does it feel like the mid-to-late 90s to you, too?
It’s not quite the same – this team is clearly worse than those teams ever were – but Montreal had no real free agent pull (nor desire to be, apparently), so they were dependent on bringing guys up through the minors. In a way, it’s like the Marlins do now.
Except the Expos (and Marlins) sign their draft picks.
Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs
by Graysnail on Aug 3, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Three things...
I think the Nats should have a Dmitri Young appreciation day at Nats Park.
I think the Nats should put together a sweet highlight package of Nick Johnson’s career with the Expos and Nats to show at the stadium and on MASN when the Marlins come to town on Tuesday.
And finally, I think Adam Dunn could still move in August. I think he’d clear waivers pretty easily with that contract, then the Nats could negotiate something with an AL team.
If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Aug 3, 2009 7:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Still don't think Dunn moves...
Just don’t think you can justify trading him this year…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Aug 3, 2009 11:37 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Dunn isn't going anywhere
didn’t you hear the GM say he isn’t “rebuilding”? Dunn at 1B is a cornerstone.
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Aug 3, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you think there's any chance Dunn stays in DC after next year? I don't personally...
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Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Aug 3, 2009 12:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
i think there's every chance of it, given this team's track record
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Aug 3, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’ll easily clear waivers. Any way of seeing what Cincy got in exchange for him last August?
If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Aug 3, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
August 11, 2008: Traded by the Cincinnati Reds with cash to the Arizona Diamondbacks for Dallas Buck (minors). The Arizona Diamondbacks sent Wilkin Castillo (August 14, 2008) and Micah Owings (September 12, 2008) to Cincinnati to complete the trade
We couldn't buy a AA pitcher for $2 million? Really?
by vanatsfan on Jul 31, 2009
by cat daddy3000 on Aug 3, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Rizzo trades him, make it a deep AL team. I'd love for him to get to play on the Rangers.
If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Aug 3, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
It’s still early to call the Nationals “perpetually rebuilding”. We had a decent first season, and then kind of down hill after that, with a big Bowden shaped road bump in the way. If we hit the point when we’re giving the Buccos a run for their money then I’ll agree.
by snowburnt on Aug 3, 2009 11:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
here's my thing...
they aren’t “rebuilding” at all. generally, when this team makes a trade, it’s for players like Morgan and Burnett…young-ish major leaguers who will contribute (each in their own special way) quickly.
they didn’t trade Soriano. or Meathook. or Lopez. or Cordero. or Willingham or Dunn.
they traded Rauch last year for Bonifacio: young-ish major leaguer.
this year marks a real departure for the team; they actually traded two expiring contracts for minor leaguers. that’s how a system gets re-stocked: draft well and trade expiring contracts for prospects.
the Pirates might be on an incredible fire sale, but at leat they went “all in”. it’s the only way to do it. works for the Marlins every six years.
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Aug 3, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was real disappointed when they got rid of Rauch, even more so seeing what Bonifacio is doing now…I’m very happy with Morgan right now, I just hope we keep these guys around, unlike the Pirates…It seems like they’ve been on a perpetual fire sale, every young talent they get they trade away…it seems like it’s been going on for years. I wonder if the GMs get a bonus if they hit a record…ANY record.
by snowburnt on Aug 3, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
evaluating the Rauch for Bonifacio trade
last year, in 26 games for Arizona, Rauch was 0-6 with a 6.56 ERA. this season? 1-0 with a 3.97 ERA in 49 games. that is the very definition of serviceable.
Bonifacio is hitting .248/.296/.311 in 451 plate appearances with Florida this season. his OPS+ is one of the lowest int he game for “regular” players. the Marlins just traded for Nick Johnson to get Bonifacio out of their lineup.
the guy the Nats traded Bonifacio for, Josh Willingham, is hitting .305/.417/.598 with 17 home runs.
essentially, the trade was Rauch for Willingham. i think Rizzo actually got this one right.
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Aug 3, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought Bowden did the Willingham-Olsen trade before he finally left town.
If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Aug 3, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bowden was at the helm for this one, yes...I heard anecdotally from another team's announcer that Rizzo was not happy with the trade at first...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Aug 3, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just imagine if Bowden had traded Dmitri at the deadline with the year he was having…instead of extending him.
If you can’t convince them, confuse them. - President Harry S Truman
by ROSCOEtheNATSfan on Aug 3, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll see your wish to revisit the Meat Hook extension (and deal him instead)
And raise you the opportunity to revisit extending Cristian Guzman rather than trading him last season. “DNTNJ guys”, do you see what some of us might be getting at here?
by bluelineswinger on Aug 3, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it happened to two of them it's bound to happen to three............
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Aug 3, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i meant Bowden, don't knwo why i typed Rizzo...
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Aug 3, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rauch with the nationals though was money for most of the season, he had like 15 SV.
Bonifacio looked pretty sad when he was with us for the end of last year, but then the in-the-park homer was a bit of a smack in the face.
I agree whole heartedly about Willingham…he’s like the Ovechkin of the Nats (not that he is the best in the world at what he does, but when he has a good day at the plate, we win games).
Good to know about this stuff in the end.
by snowburnt on Aug 3, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Nats have been rebuilding since 1994.
Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs
by Graysnail on Aug 3, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We've Always Been At War With Eurasia...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Aug 3, 2009 2:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
See..... now here's why I keep applauding the Pirates
We watched the “rebuilding” of the team on an annual basis from 1995 to the present, in a sense. Of course, the “rebuilding” wasn’t really rebuilding. It was making that one trade every couple of years, with the occasional efforts of the GMs (Minaya, specifically) deciding to make a deal every time they competed for a couple of months that would actually set the team back for years. Not surprisingly, the Expos/Nats saw their record vary quite a bit over that time. The high water mark was 88 wins. They finished with 80+ wins four times overall (83-79 in 2002 and 2003… 81-81 in their first season in DC in 2005). They did suffer through 4 straight seasons of 70 wins or less (65-68 wins each season from 1998-2001). To me, enduring two straight seasons as awful as the past two have been should be reacted to with something of a Band-Aid effect. They should have just ripped it off and started from scratch.
by bluelineswinger on Aug 3, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You Misremember...
Comrade. Eurasia is our ally. We are at war with Eastasia, we have always been at war with Eastasia…
As For NJ. He’ll be missed both on the field and by his many fans. Of course we won’t know if the trade was a good one until we see what young Mr.Thompson can achieve…but if he WAS going to leave, anything seems good in return. This team, in DC, is too young to be attached to any player. If Wade Boggs and Dale Murphy can get traded then anyone can.
Don’t like WillyHam much but his numbers are hard to argue with. Breaking it down to Rauch For WillyHam seems like a win, though.
Signing StrasBurger, or whatever that kid’s name is, remains the ONLY significant issue for the Nats This Season…..
FBI Man: Hello, Mr.Thompson.
(Homer stares blankly)
Homer (Whispering to other FBI Guy): I think he’s talking to you…
"Oh no sir, this has been embarassing for quite some time. " ~Bagger Vance
by BloggerVance on Aug 3, 2009 5:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey kids, who wants me to drive through that cactus patch?
Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs
by Graysnail on Aug 3, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Just Say NO"
“Just say NO” has now become an everyday mantra in NOTStown:
-Crow just said NO
-Teixiera just said NO
-Hudson just said NO
-Johnson just said NO
-Strasburg will just say NO
The Losing Lerners and their 2 years of WORST in MLB…have fatally doomed this franchise’s Player Acquisition options………
by TheMamba on Aug 3, 2009 8:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
JUST SAY NO TO NOTStown...
Strasburg must sign…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Ed Chigliak on Aug 3, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think this is positive
"On this team, the difference between Clippard and Julian Tavarez is like the difference between a 6-2 loss and a 9-2 loss." -- Chico Harlan
by Mezza on Aug 4, 2009 1:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If Strasburg doesn't sign...
. . . the Lerners need to be shipped to Montreal.
by 313J on Aug 4, 2009 6:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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