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Is Jim Riggleman Losing The Washington Nationals?

He seems to have lost most of the fanbase already, judging by the tone of the commentary I read from the online communities which still take the time to discuss the Washington Nationals, (what with football, professional and college, the start of the NHL preseason, the latest viral video of Kanye West interrupting someone, whatever it is people are doing instead of watching the end of the Nationals' second-straight 100-loss season) but I was surprised, when reading Washington Post writer Chico Harlan's post game report on the Nationals Journal Sunday entitled, "Riggleman Says Nats Were Flat In 6-2 Loss", not by the Nationals' Manager Jim Riggleman's comments about the team's "lackluster" performance, as he labeled it, or by the way in which he challenged his players over what Mr. Riggleman described as an "overall lack of energy in the dugout" during the painful 6-2 loss to the lowly New York Mets, (and their Triple-A+ lineup) on Sunday afternoon...I was surprised...by Nationals' first baseman Adam Dunn's reaction to Mr. Riggleman's assessment of the team's effort, which was included in three articles printed about the game yesterday, by Mr. Harlan, MLB.com's Bill Ladson and Washington Times' writer Ben Goessling...

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In The Washington Post's Mr. Harlan's article he writes that, "A few of Washington's veterans weren't quite as harsh in appraising the energy level," but the only veteran quoted in the post is Mr. Dunn, who, Mr. Harlan writes, "...vehemently disagreed with the assessment that the Nats were flat", as Mr. Riggleman had seen it. In fact, again, according to Mr. Harlan, when, "...asked if he thought Washington's energy level was lacking," the Nationals' left-handed hitting 37/101 first baseman responded:

"'That's tough. I was in the game; I'm not going to sit here and say I was flat because I don't think I was and I can only speak for myself. As far as the team -- I don't think we came out...I'm gonna say no, I don't think we were flat. I don't. I just think that we ran into some guys that pitched pretty good, we weren't swinging the bats really well, and I think that's the problem.

"'It's easy, man, [to keep your energy level up]. Good weather. What else are you going to do? Energy -- that has nothing to do with it. We've playing one-hundred-and-X amount of games. Why would we decide on Sunday whatever-the-day-is to not play hard? That's bulls---. That's one thing we do. Winning or losing, we do play hard.'"

To be fair, Mr. Riggleman did acknowledge as Dunn suggested, that the way John Maine was throwing had a lot to do with the way the Nationals played, and they did rally for two late runs off Mets' reliever Brian Stokes, showing a degree of fortitude in attempting to mount some sort of comeback down 6-0 in the ninth, but as Mr. Riggleman sees it, and as he explains to the Post's Mr. Harlan, "...good pitching can make you look flat. But we can't allow that to happen." 

According to the Washington Times' Ben Goessling's article on the loss entitled, "Riggleman says Nats 'flat' in 6-2 loss", "...Ryan Zimmerman "downplayed" the idea that the Nationals were "flat" as Mr. Riggleman stated, and Mr. Goessling too writes that, "The notion of the Nationals being flat...(was)...completely rejected by Adam Dunn", while MLB.com's Bill Ladson quotes Dunn further, writing that:

"Dunn disagreed with Riggleman's assessment about Sunday's game, saying there was energy on the field. Dunn also believes that it's tough to generate enthusiasm if a team is losing almost every single day.

All of which leads me to ask...Were these three writers, the main MSM writers who provide coverage of the Nationals, simply happy to have two equally blunt reactions to play off one another for a good read at a tough time for the team, its management, the writers who follow them and the Nationals fans, or did they all include and feature Adam Dunn's reponses to Mr. Riggleman's commentary as a sign of the first rifts developing between the "Interim" Manager and the team many believe will have a new skipper next season?

• Did you hear the latest 4th-Skipper-Rumors? Buck Showalter? Don Mattingly? I thought Bobby V. had it lined up...and what about Kirk Gibson?

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Good point

Losing is the best way to see a team drop enthusiasm (speaking from experience of course). I just think we’re at the end of a long losing season…some of the guys who are on the end of it probably are ready for the season to end (I know most of us are). So dont know if its a case of Riggles losing the team or they have just had enough.

I think they could have done a better job of bring up some of the rookies – eg. Desmond should have played everyday. Dunn and Zim could have been rested instead of being left in.

But I dont knock Riggles for blasting the team occasionally – if Acta had done this from the start, we might not be in this situation.

Padilla walked into the Nats' clubhouse for the first time and said, "My God. I'm in heaven."

by Mezza on Sep 21, 2009 6:57 AM EDT reply actions  

I think getting a team to believe in itself is the single biggest job for a manager. As Dibble always says…these kids were all the best players on their teams when they were in high school.

Look what the right manager can do. Joe Maddon…2008. Took the Rays and some timely pitching to the World Series. They believed in themselves and played loose. That and some timely pitching can work wonders. The Nats just have no timely pitching…and the hitters and fielders know that.

Rizzo at least knows what to look for in a manager, and what questions to ask in an interview. I’ll believe in our new manager. Let’s hope it happens quickly after the season. Also, I hope Rizzo tells the new manager that a successful season isn’t a .500 season, so aiming for .500 isn’t a goal. Playoffs…YES-PLAYOFFS…that’s the goal.

by RoscoeNats on Sep 21, 2009 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

What the heck are "the playoffs"?

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Sep 21, 2009 9:34 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Playoffs = some mean people make you play extra games because you didn’t lose enough during the regular season.

by RoscoeNats on Sep 21, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would've preferred Desmond playing everyday...

…especially since Alberto had had more than enough of a chance to claim his spot…

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Sep 21, 2009 10:23 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I agree. Point…we know Desmond has a future. Maybe Rizzo told Riggles to play Gonzo so they can at least get a decent AA place filler in return for him.

by RoscoeNats on Sep 21, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

So...Mock's left in for 115...

How long before he’s shut down for the season…

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Sep 21, 2009 11:35 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Ed I go away for a week or so I come back and...

…Riggleman is start Ian in RF…What the heck !!!

Riggleman – Nyjer Morgan in the line up = Slowly losing the team

But doesn’t that = Buck Showalter or Bobby V…. please Lard no….

by Berndaddy on Sep 21, 2009 11:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Rigglez iz Nutz...

Not only starting Desi in right, but leaving him in late in a close game…

Now the Riggle rumors start again with Buck “Build’em up and Leave” Showalter back on top of the Manager Rumor Mill…

Oh Lardy…Sign Donnie Baseball!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Sep 21, 2009 11:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Give me Kirk Gibson

Broadcasting
He was a Detroit Tigers television analyst on FSN Detroit for five seasons, from 1998-2002.

[edit] Coaching
In 2003, he was named the Tigers’ bench coach, and served in that position until the midway point of the 2005 season when he was moved from bench coach to hitting coach, swapping positions with Bruce Fields. As of the start of the 2007 Major League Baseball season, Gibson became the new Arizona Diamondbacks bench coach.

Gibson had worn # 23 as a player. However, while coaching for the Tigers, he wore #22 after # 23 was retired for Willie Horton. Gibson currently wears # 23 as a coach for the Diamondbacks.

[edit] Personal life
He married JoAnn Sklarski on December 22, 1985, in a double ceremony where Tiger pitcher Dave Rozema married JoAnn’s sister Sandy. They were married at Grosse Pointe Memorial Church in Grosse Pointe Farms, Michigan.

He set a flying record in 1987. He flew a Cessna 206 to a height of 25,200 feet in Lakeland, Florida. The record was certified by the National Aeronautic Association.

by RoscoeNats on Sep 21, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow! Gibson's a daredevil stunt pilot...

…what you got, Mattingly? Showalter? Heh? Heh? Did the ever hit a dramatic game-winner on a gimpy leg cause they knew a slider was coming??

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Sep 21, 2009 12:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Another for Kirk Gibson

he’s a man.

look, i think we all knew Riggs wasn’t the guy. Mattingly quit on Torre and the Dodgers. Showalter is a blowhard and Valentine is a) nuts and b) going to ask for $5 million.

Riggleman’s performance over the weekend, from his decision-making to his quotes, was awful.

Your voice of doom and gloom. Read more at natsnewsnetwork.blogspot.com

by Dave at District Sports Page on Sep 21, 2009 12:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Is this Kirk Gibson stuff "real world"? Is he being discussed anywhere?

I don’t doubt it, just haven’t seen it myself…does it exist outside of the comment section ls here and on the NJ board?

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Sep 21, 2009 12:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

sadly, no

i haven’t found anyone willing to go on the record about any possible managerial candidates.

Your voice of doom and gloom. Read more at natsnewsnetwork.blogspot.com

by Dave at District Sports Page on Sep 21, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

All I heard was that vague after the reg season...

Before the Series ends note…I’m sure the 4th time will be the charm…

Hire Willie Randolph!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Sep 21, 2009 1:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

NEVER HIRE WILLIE RANDOLPH.

I kinda think the D-Backs will hire Gibson. This Finch or Hinch guy likely isn’t the answer for the D-Backs. Just a placeholder to finish the season.

by RoscoeNats on Sep 21, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

WILLIE RANDOLPH !!!

NOOOOOOOO !!!!!
Please NNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNOOOOOOOOONNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOONOOOOOOOONNNNO…..NO !!!

by Berndaddy on Sep 21, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hinch was their Dir.of Pro Player Personnel

so i don’t think just a placeholder, but he certainly hasn’t distiguished himself behind the bench.

Your voice of doom and gloom. Read more at natsnewsnetwork.blogspot.com

by Dave at District Sports Page on Sep 21, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

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