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Washington Nationals: Friday Rumors - Josh Willingham, Orlando Cabrera?

• Unabashed Orlando Cabrera Fan Tries To Fight The Obvious...

In an interview with the MLB Network last night, DC GM Mike Rizzo told the Hot Stove hosts that though Washington was interested in free agent second baseman Orlando Hudson, he was, "...not sure if it's a fit...but we've got three or four infielders we're looking at." If you believe the rumors, Adam Kennedy has always been on the Nats' radar, and now, according to MLB.com's Bill Ladson's Twitterfeed:

"The #Nats have interest in SS Orlando Cabrera. They see him as a possible second baseman if they can't sign O-Dog."

Back in a mid-December update of FOXSports.com's Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi's "Buzz: Latest from the MLB offseason", entitled, "Tejada options dwindling", the FOXSports.com writers reported that with starting shortstop jobs league-wide quickly disappearing, Orlando Cabrera was, "...talking with two teams about playing second base," for the first time since he played 1 game at second during the 2000 campaign. The 35-year-old two-time Gold Glove winning shortstop had a rough season defensively in 2009, committing 25 errors and posting a .965 FLD%, his lowest since 2002, to go along with a career low (-13.7) UZR/150 (which was the 2nd worst mark in baseball), though he hit .284 with a .316 OBP, .389 SLG, 36 doubles, 3 triples, 9 HR's and 77 RBI's. 

Cabrera's coming off a 1-year/$4 million dollar deal with Oakland.

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• Olney on Willingham.

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• Olney on Willingham.

ESPN.com's Buster Olney reported in a Twitter message this afternoon that he'd heard, "The Nationals have again put Josh Willingham back out on the market. If they deal him, could clear the way for Dunn to go to OF." The second half of that sentence alone almost had me dismissing this, since Dunn's play in left (and the crowded outfield) forced him to first after Nick Johnson had been dealt to the Marlins last season. It would be easier to dismiss, however, if Washington Post writer Thomas Boswell didn't keep on bringing up the possibility. Willlingham responded to the recurring rumors last week in an article by MLB.com's Bill Ladson entitled, "Willingham not bothered by trade rumors", where the 30-year-old left fielder was asked if he knew about any trade talk and responded: 

"'I understand it's part of the business. When you talk about a trade, you realize both parties are trying to upgrade their team. If they are going to upgrade their teams, then that will happen.'"

The Nationals have to sign an outfielder if they do actually trade Hammer, right? It can't be Dunn back in left, even if he still thinks he's an outfielder...

?'s For The DC Faithful:

• Is DC GM Mike Rizzo trying to force Orlando Hudson's hand by exploring other possibilities?

• Does Orlando Cabrera, who helped the Twins into the playoffs last season, help Washington's infield?

• Does Orlando Cabrera seem like a Mike Rizzo-type of defender? 

• Do the recurring Willingham rumors make you think something's actually going on there?

• Dunn in the OF? No thanks...Sorry for answering my own question.

• Who would trade for the Hammer? NY Mets? Seattle Mariners? Braves? Giants

• Could you just sign already Orlando Hudson?

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Sign Orlando

Either will do. Put me down as a fan for nit having Dunn in OF.

"I love, love, love John Lackey." -- Graysnail.

by Mezza on Jan 23, 2010 12:52 AM EST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Hammer's got the minimum level of talent I can tolerate from an OF, catches what's hit near him, makes occasional nice plays...

…misses a few in humorous fashion…and hits two grand slams in a game every once in a while…

Trade Hammer at the deadline when he’s hit another 25 HR’s unless you think he’s peaked already…

Hammer, Morgan, Dukes in Twenty-Ten!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jan 23, 2010 12:55 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

+2 NO Dunn In the OF!!! And Counting...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jan 23, 2010 12:56 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Seriously.

No to Dunn in the OF! No to Adam Kennedy and double No to Orlando Cabrera.

And for gosh sakes, Rizzo, sign Orlando Hudson!!!!
I’m going a little batty waiting for this to happen (especially since my beloved Tar Heels are STINKING up the joint these days.)
O-Dog, O-dog, he’s our man…if he can’t do it nobody can. (Shades of MissB’s cheerleader days.)

by MissB on Jan 23, 2010 1:47 AM EST up reply actions  

got to be patient with the Rizzo

Got to like the professionalism thou. Not much leaking, plays a straight up and down game. Usually gets his man unless he is too much.

Needs a couple of more chips to fall his way this offseaon – I think we’ve moved into the $2 bargain bin time and they are looking for value.

"I love, love, love John Lackey." -- Graysnail.

by Mezza on Jan 23, 2010 8:16 AM EST up reply actions  

No way the Nats can have Dunn in left.

by PerryMason on Jan 23, 2010 9:18 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I count 3

"I love, love, love John Lackey." -- Graysnail.

by Mezza on Jan 23, 2010 6:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes

Another Expo back on board, hopefully. Clearly I am a fan of Orlando Cabrera. Hudson with the whole wrist/phantom physical last year/losing his job to Belliard turns me off. All that and he is asking for nine mil. this year. Two years running he has musjudged the market. If it’s not Cabrera let it be Kennedy.

I’m with Ed, hold WIllingham because his value will be worth more at the deadline. Dunn is a DH, not an outfielder.

Why not us? Why not now?

by Expos4 on Jan 23, 2010 2:18 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Paul LoDuca

Signed with the Rockies. How is he still getting paychecks to play baseball?

Why not us? Why not now?

by Expos4 on Jan 23, 2010 6:08 AM EST reply actions  

probably the same way Daniel Cabrera is...

some of these guys just somehow manage to stay around… catchers in particular have a half-life.

"I love, love, love John Lackey." -- Graysnail.

by Mezza on Jan 23, 2010 8:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't want Dunn in the OF

But if the nats trade Willingham, we sign Xavier Nady to play LF or we move Dunn to LF and sign Mike Jacobs to play first.

What do you think Ed?

by natsfan39 on Jan 23, 2010 8:12 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Nady

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jan 23, 2010 10:18 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

No, Nady's still out there...

But the Metsies did get Gary Matthews, Jr.

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jan 23, 2010 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Nady's name's come up a few times...

But he’s coming off surgery, which is a big risk, I want nothing to do with Jacobs, even as a backup to Dunn, just not a fan of his game…

And if Dunn’s in the NL I think it should be at first, where he’ll cause the least damage…

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jan 23, 2010 10:21 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

meh, Nady is way overatted imo

when swisher first came to NY, there was actually debate over who should play left… for some reason.

Nady cant get on base and he’s an got avg power at best.

and as much as I love Dunn, yea, no outfield please.

by martins on Jan 23, 2010 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Dunn in LF

= disaster, I am a huge Dunn fan i think he really helped out the other players in the lineup. We need Willingham’s power in the lineup the offense without him was subsantialy worse in the begining of the season

by rbolt on Jan 23, 2010 9:08 AM EST reply actions  

I a huge Dunn fan too, as long as he’s at first. It’s just to painful to watch him in left.

by PerryMason on Jan 23, 2010 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

We gotta get O-dog or Cabrera

Adam Kennedy will not do. I really dont want Kennedy on the Nats.

Get Cabrera. Vive les Expos

"We're starting to get into Plush mode," Nyjer Morgan said

by ryzim22 on Jan 23, 2010 9:23 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

if willingham gets traded it should be for a pitcher...

ya know, one who is actually good… Leave it to the Nats to trade Willingham NOW though.

by martins on Jan 23, 2010 10:18 AM EST reply actions  

If they get the young MLB-ready arm Boswell's rumor stated...then maybe...

But I still think you hold on to him for now, if Maxwell or Bernadina steps up and shows they can play on a regular basis (a big ? for me) then maybe trade Hammer later…

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jan 23, 2010 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd guess he'd go to the M's

Willingham would be a great fit there, but I also get the feeling that the Nats probably overvalue him. This just doesn’t make any sense, I can’t believe the Nats would trade W to get Dunn back in the outfield. Browsing Fangraphs lazily, Dunn had was -39.5 UZR/150 OF’er last season. Although I guess his -25 UZR/150 at 1B isn’t great either.

by docholliday3 on Jan 23, 2010 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Here's a Yankee blogger with what he thinks the Yanks should offer for Hammer...

Bronx Baseball Daily:

“It may only take Alfredo Aceves, Chad Gaudin and an infield prospect to land the slugger. Trading Willingham would allow the Nats to sign Mike Jacobs to play first, thus shifting Adam Dunn back to left field and slightly improving their defense.”

Improve the defense? Please see stats in post above the only way Dunn improves the Nats d is by becoming a DH in the AL…

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jan 23, 2010 11:11 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Signing Jacobs would also allow moving Dunn to SS or 2nd or pitcher but what would be the point?
Unless they can get a good pitcher for Willingham I’m with you Ed, keep him until Maxwell or Bernadino show they are ready.

by PerryMason on Jan 23, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

These the same guys who dont know what a double switch is?

We’re all agreed – Dunn should be a DH or 1B

"I love, love, love John Lackey." -- Graysnail.

by Mezza on Jan 23, 2010 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Jose Lopez for Willingham

Is a trade idea that was floated in the SB Nation Mariners site. But, the conclusion was that

“Lopez is younger (by four years), cheaper (by two million) and better (by a couple runs) than Willingham and the Mariners aren’t the ones with lost leverage.”

It’s an interesting idea from the Nats end. Lopez=Hudson except he’s cheaper and younger. Their stats are comparable at this point in time.

by docholliday3 on Jan 23, 2010 11:43 AM EST reply actions  

No on Moving Dunn

I almost want them to sign both Orlando and Orlando so we can just have them both out their at the same time for a laugh. I still don’t get why Rizzo has not made a move on another starting pitcher.

by Alex35332 on Jan 23, 2010 12:37 PM EST reply actions  

Looking for the perfect fit acc. to Rizzo...

My guess is they know the can dign a Livan-esque player late in the game so they’re waiting out trades and higher priced arms looking for a good deal…

Personally I’d prefer a Pudge approach where you overpay a bit for what you want, but next year’s FA’s are much better than this year’s so they might not want to spend the money…

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jan 23, 2010 12:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

dign = sign Silly iPhone....

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jan 23, 2010 12:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Dynamic Duo

We need Josh in the OF. Hopefully we stay focused on luring Hudson to DC. DD needs to happen. I trust in time as I trust in Rizzo that it will.

by NatsGoing2theSeries! on Jan 23, 2010 1:10 PM EST reply actions  

Dunn LF = No good ...

In Rizzo we trust….to do anything but put Dunn in LF….

by Berndaddy on Jan 23, 2010 1:17 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

liars x2

DC GM Mike Rizzo told the Hot Stove hosts that though Washington was interested in free agent second baseman Orlando Hudson, he was, "…not sure if it’s a fit.//////

they lied last year that he was too injured to play in GNATStown, and ODOG who actually blew them off as losers and signed within a week with the Dodgers and made the All star team…….

The reigning worst team in baseball could use more too injured players like that

by The Mamba on Jan 23, 2010 1:46 PM EST reply actions  

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