Washington Nationals: Trade Josh Willingham? Why? [Updated]
It's the same message that he sent out via Twitter last night, but now it's reprinted as part of ESPN.com's Buster Olney's latest blog post, (for INSIDERS only) entitled, "Reports on Matthews Jr. aren't kind", so Mr. Olney's not backing away from the rumor he's heard about Washington entertaining offers for left fielder Josh Willingham:
"The Nationals have Josh Willingham back out on the trade market, perhaps to give them the option of shifting Adam Dunn back to the outfield."
But as I said yesterday, the first half of the sentence is so much harder to believe when followed by the second. Why would the Nationals want to put Adam (-39.5 UZR/150) Dunn, who had a combined .947 FLD% in 2009 as an outfielder and had trouble finding a job in the NL last winter because of his defense, back out into left field, especially after Washington traded away Nick Johnson to make room for Willingham in left and Dunn at first, and with no one in the system set to take over at first for Dunn, who had an "acceptable" (is that a good word?), .986 FLD% in 67 G at first in '09 (-25.0 UZR/150 at 1st)...Are all these rumors really based on the Mike Jacobs talk? Jacobs takes over at first and Dunn goes back to left...? Does anyone who watched the Nationals last year think putting Dunn back in left is a good idea?
The SB Nation's Seattle Mariners site Lookout Landing definitely picked up on Mr. Olney's Tweet, examining the possibility of acquiring Willingham in an article by "Matthew" entitled, "LF Option: Josh Willingham", wherein it was determined that the idea of putting Adam Dunn back in left is "insane" and trading the Hammer makes no sense, because as they point out, and as DC GM Mike Rizzo asked rhetorically in Washington Post writer Chico Harlan's July '09 article entitled, "Rizzo Has No Plans For A July Firesale":
"Why would you want to dump Willingham? We control him for two years, he's [30] years old, and he's a good hitter," Rizzo said. "I still think it's a young team. Willingham and Zim, those are guys in their primes or entering their primes. Including Dunn."
(ed. note - "Of course, in the very next sentence of Mr. Harlan's article, Mr. Rizzo's quoted as stating that the Nationals weren't looking to trade Nick Johnson...")
A December 9th MLB.com Bill Ladson tweet from the Winter Meetings reported the New York Mets had inquired about Willingham's availability, but according to Mr. Ladson, "...the Nats told New York they planned to hold on to (Willingham)." Then there's the Washington Post's Thomas Boswell, who twice since January 1st has mentioned the possibility of Willingham being dealt. First in an article entitled, "Rizzo's checklist for the Nats is halfway there", where he wrote:
"Josh Willingham, coming off a .927 OPS year, plus any '09 starter not named John Lannan, for a rotation-ready young starter of higher quality? Absolutely. Then they would use the millions they don't pay Willingham to sign a free agent hitter who is better defensively, such as Xavier Nady."
...and more recently, Mr. Boswell let slip a rumor he'd heard in a chat with fans about a potential, "Willingham-plus-somebody-for-a-young-pitcher deal," that had fallen through. It must have been a good "young pitcher" or pitchers this mystery team was offering, at least according to MLB.com's Bill Ladson's interview with Willingham entitled, "Willingham not bothered by trade rumors", where Mr. Ladson writes:
"...the only way Willingham is leaving Washington is if the Nationals are overwhelmed by the players they get in return."
What do the Yankees, Mets, Ranger, Mariners or Braves have to overwhelm Washington with? Will Willingham be in left for the Nationals come Opening Day? How about after the 2010 deadline?
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No donkeys in the outfield. Nyjer would have way to many gappers to chase.
Wouldn’t the Nats just platoon J-Max and maybe Bernadina in LF?
.927?
Am i looking at the wrong stats? I see a .863 OPS. A .927 would put him in the top 12 of the NL.
I agree that the Nats should trade Willingham. But NOT in exchange for Mike Jacobs. He is terrible. REALLLYYY Bad. Moving Willingham is plus as they don’t have his contract that much longer, and he is near the peak of his value. If trading him improves the long-term I am all for it..
BUT NOT MIKE JACOBS! .698 OPS at first is not acceptable, or anywhere for that matter. Especially at the cost of putting Dunn back in the OF. (though he isn’t good at first either.)
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Huh...i double-checked my stats...
But not Boswell’s…don’t know where he got that OPS I’m not sure…but .863 is correct acc to Baseball-Reference.
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by Patrick Reddington on Jan 24, 2010 10:36 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
It makes way more sense to trade Dunn
While Dunn is clearly the more valuable addition to the line-up, he also has more trade value to an American League team. Almost every team could use an upgraded DH, as the David Ortiz’s of the world are slowly disappearing, and Dunn’s value goes up exponentially if he doesn’t play defense. Furthermore, Dunn’s contract is bigger than Willingham and is up at the end of this year. I love Dunn, and I love what he does for our offense, but he needs to be traded, especially over Willingham.
Mike Jacobs is also tremendously bad, his OBP has been below 300 the last two seasons, and it is debatable that he is an upgrade at 1b defensively…which is saying something. A low batting average isn’t justified without a high OBP and significant power. Jacobs doesn’t provide either.
My guess on who the Yankees would have offered for Willingham, Phillip Hughes. Once touted as the top prospect in baseball hughes has slipped over the last several seasons and frankly just hasn’t had the time to develop on a team like the Yankees. They don’t need him, and might just rather have the bat for the short term.
It’s too bad, it’s a trade that would have benefitted both teams.
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My request for Phil Hughes was quickly rejected...
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by Patrick Reddington on Jan 24, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
No.
No Mike Jacobs. that is all.
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Jan 24, 2010 2:06 PM EST reply actions
+1. that is all.
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by Patrick Reddington on Jan 24, 2010 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
We didn't hire him for his defense
OPS at first-.896 OPS in left-1.016.
So you recommend putting Dunn back in left to increase his offensive output...
I still don’t think anyone’s solved that discrepancy either, we’ve debated why Dunn hits better when he plays the outfield…makes no sense to me…
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by Patrick Reddington on Jan 24, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
There are a lot of superstitions in baseball
but it probably makes sense to go with them than against them. Mike Jacobs is not exactly a beacon of light, but he would make it possible to move either Dunn or Willingham.
Unless they extend Dunn they'll have to trade him or lose him and get back picks in return...
Dunn would have to be a Type-A free agent right? That could go a long way in deciding what eventually happens to him…I wouldn’t be suprised if Washington decided to try to extend Dunn though I’m not sure how good an idea it it…
I can’t see Willingham getting much better than he is, but there’s no other legit option on the roster right now so trading him would require more movement…Unless, of course you think Justin Maxwell or Roger Bernadina are ready for everyday action…
Mike Jacobs is no beacon of light for sure…my opinion of him may be more personal than objective admittedly, don’t like former Mets, and he killed Washington a few times with Florida…
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by Patrick Reddington on Jan 24, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
Jacobs career .313 OBP...
and decline in that stat every season he’s been up, are reason enough to say no. signing Jacobs to trade WIllingham or Dunn is foolsh. Jacobs is no where near the player either Hammer of Dunn are.
JUST. SAY. NO.
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Jan 24, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
Dave, Ed, I agree with you both about Jacobs
but we’ve got two bad choices here-either Guzman and Dunn on the same side of the infield, or Willingham/Dunn goes for a game-ready second baseman and we’re only stuck with Jacobs for one year.
or, they sign a decent fielding 2B via free agent (i.e. Hudson or Cabrera)
and Guzman goes back to short for the season, pushing Desmond back to AAA.
there’s lots of options.
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Jan 24, 2010 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
and i meant to add...
that Jacobs shouldn’t be one of the options. he’s just not good. at all.
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Jan 24, 2010 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
Who
offered Hughes for Willingham? The NATS would have tripped over themselves getting to the phone for that deal.

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