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An Open Letter to Adam LaRoche

Dear Adam LaRoche,

I know last year you made the wrong decision and had to watch the team that offered you more money go on and win the World Series while you played for less money on a team that lost 100 games. I am here to keep you from making another poor decision. Going to the Baltimore Orioles would be like going back to the Pirates. Do you remember how much fun that was?

I know looking at it from your standpoint that both teams are last place teams in strong divisions. The AL East is stronger. The Red Sox have just added Carl Crawford and Adrian Gonzalez, and the Yankees might be close to adding Cliff Lee. Which brings us to this. While your platoon splits are good you still aren't as good of a hitter against lefty pitching. Against righties you bat .277/.349/.501 while against lefties you bat .254/.307/.446. That OBP is ugly can you imagine what it would be facing Cecil, Sabathia, Lester, Romero, and Price? Those are some tough lefty pitchers. The NL East has some tough pitching as well but as far as lefties goes it is Santana, Hamels, and the newly signed Lee. Those three are good but Santana will begin the year on the DL, and guys like Derek Lowe and Joe Blanton pitch in the NL East and are ready for a lefty bat to feast on them.

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Now that that entire pesky division thing is out of the way let's look at the future of the ball clubs you would be coming to. The Orioles have some good young pitching with Matusz and Arrieta, but that can be matched with Strasburg and Zimmermann. Now ponder this for a second:

Pitcher A 2009: 50.2 IP 4.62 ERA 1.70 K/BB 1.2 HR/9 1.303 WHIP

Pitcher B 2010: 31.0 IP 4.94 ERA 2.70 K/BB 2.3 HR/9 1.323 WHIP

Those numbers are pretty close with pitcher A having pitcher more innings not having as good of a K/BB rate and not giving up as many homers while pitcher B had a better K/BB rate but gave up more homers. Pitcher A is Mat Latos and Pitcher B is Jordan Zimmermann. This is nowhere near enough proof that Zimmermann can have a big year in 2011, but it should be noted by a free agent choosing his future destination.

I would say that we should look at infield defense, but I think I can just as what third baseman you would rather receive throws from and hit behind, gold glover and silver slugger Ryan Zimmerman or former teammate that you know all about 200 K artist Mark Reynolds. The Orioles did just add JJ Hardy and while the value of average is underrated both Ian Desmond and Danny Espinosa are average short stops right now and haven't even began to mature as players. I think it is pretty obvious which infield is going to have better defenders gunning down runners at first base, and you will be right there receiving the throws.

The outfield is a different story, but with the addition of Jayson Werth the Nationals have a better right fielder. This is no knock on Markakis, but Werth is simply better just compare Werth's 5.0 WAR to Markakis' 2.8 WAR. Basically Werth is twice the player Markakis is. Adam Jones is a rising star in centerfield and the Nationals have nothing to combat that. If the Nationals do hold onto Josh Willingham then they have a superior but injury prone player in left. One more thing to note. Bryce Harper is an amazing talent. After seeing what he did in the Arizona Fall League would anyone be that surprised if he made it to the majors by the end of the 2011 season?

I obviously don't know what type of contract the Nationals or the Orioles are offering, but I can tell you this. The Nationals are the team of the future. They have the best pitching prospect in the game in Strasburg, and the best hitting prospect in the game in Harper. They have good young productive major leaguers in Espinosa, Desmond, and Ramos, and let us not forget their current star and face of the franchise Ryan Zimmerman. The Orioles have no one that even approaches his level. The Orioles themselves may tout Matt Weiters as their FoF, but can a player that puts up a 2.3 WAR and .303 wOBA even be considered in the same class as a player that put up a 7.2 WAR and .389 wOBA?

I think the choice is clear Mr. LaRoche. For now, for the future if you choose the Washington Nationals you will not regret it.

Thank you,
A Concerned Nationals Fan   

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Ha!

That’s pretty good. This one ought to be surfaced. Where can we get an address to send LaRoche emails and twitters? You can be Aubrey Huff here Adam LaRoche if you overperform.

Sadly, Mr. LaRoche would like to inform you that right field is a tasty treat at Camden Yards, though.

The wait for 10/7 begins. This man is focused. Are you?

by souldrummer on Dec 10, 2010 11:57 AM EST reply actions  

However

While right field is a tasty treat at Camden Yards, Aubrey Huff had a better year playing at pitcher friendly Telephone Park then he did playing in the friendly confines of Camden Yards.

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by Giant Torture on Dec 10, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

My counterargument

Dear Mr. LaRoche:
I have no faith in you. Your splits in Arizona were not particularly good, considering the hitter-friendly ballpark you played in. You did have a pretty good season two years ago, though. With any luck, you can use that to sell your services to some other team. But as far as I’m concerned as a Nationals fan, I say this is not the right place for you.

Rob

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." -- Rogers Hornsby

by RobBobS on Dec 10, 2010 2:29 PM EST reply actions  

It would be nice to have some depth and another left handed bat

I’m still positive on LaRoche

The wait for 10/7 begins. This man is focused. Are you?

by souldrummer on Dec 10, 2010 8:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Such a terrible article that I had to create an account to comment...

Wow.

Just wow.

I mean, I guess this article manages to get a point across, but it has to be the most disjointed, incomplete piece of journalism I’ve ever read.

First off, the difficulty of the AL East is mentioned, but what about the NL East? Even with Jayson Werth, the Nationals are the fifth best team on paper in that division. Just like the Orioles are the fifth best team on paper in the AL East. While counting the Orioles out (and they should be counted out) in the AL East, Dave, you failed to mention how the Nats are going to climb over the Philles. And the Braves. And the Me… Oh wait, the Mets are a disaster… But the Marlins are always a challenge, despite their low payroll. Sure the AL East is the toughest division in baseball, by far, but the NL East is no cakewalk.

Second, what was the point of the Zimmermann/Latos comparison? You even wrote that “this is nowhere near enough proof that Zimmermann can have a big year in 2011”, so why in the world should it “be noted by a free agent choosing his future destination”? Jordan Zimmermann is a prospect. Nothing more, nothing less. Free agents want to see something at the MLB level. They don’t care about prospects and what could happen in the future. That’s why no one is lining up to sign with Baltimore, Oakland, Florida and even Washington (Werth was an anomaly).

Third, since when did Ian Desmond and Danny Espinosa become “average short stops”? After an uninspiring minor league career, Desmond put up a .700 OPS in his first full season while striking out three times as often as he walked. And, according to UZR, Desmond was the fourth worst defensive shortstop in baseball last year. How is that “average” by any means? And how about Espinosa? .214 with a .723 OPS in his first cup of coffee? Sure, he was a solid player in the minors, but his first taste of the bigs wasn’t anything to talk about.

Sure, Desmond and Espinosa are both young, and Espinosa has decent potential, but neither of them are going to be more than average. And that’s if either of them ever gets to that point.

Moving on, you’re right that Jayson Werth is much more valuable than Nick Markakis, but Werth is already 32 and he’ll be making $18 million per year until his 38 year-old season. That’s the kind of contract that can derail the best of franchises if Werth collapses when he’s 35. You can’t say with a straight face that a) you think that seven years, $127 million was a good deal for Werth or b) you’re not worried about Werth breaking down and sucking up 20% of payroll while sitting on the DL in the later years of the contract. THAT is something any free agent needs to consider. Especially if he’s going to sign with a losing team.

Next…

I think a lot of people would be surprised if Bryce Harper made it to the majors in 2011. There’s a big difference between JuCo/AFL and the Majors. Anyone who’s expecting Harper to roll through his first year or two of professional ball without experiencing any painful setbacks is setting himself up for disappointment. Sure, it could happen, but for every Alex Rodriguez there’s a Matt Bush.

Next…

Sure, comparing WAR and wOBA gives Ryan Zimmerman a massive advantage over Matt Wieters. But let’s not forget that Zimmerman, since he was a high school draftee, has five full big league seasons under his belt. Wieters, since he was a college draftee, has just one full big league season under his belt. 2011 could be Wieters’s breakout season, and, considering his enormous talent, he could easily hit .290/.370/.520, which would match Zimmerman’s offense. And let’s not forget that, despite his offensive struggles, Wieters has already established himself as one of the best defensive catchers in baseball.

Next…

Good job completely ignoring the fact that Stephen Strasburg underwent Tommy John surgery a few months ago and is nothing close to a lock to even playing in 2011. Heck, has he even thrown off a mound yet?

This entire article was just a bunch of best case scenarios. Sure, Strasburg was great, but will he be healthy in 2011? And if he is, will he be as good? Sure, Harper has talent, but will he survive the jump to the pros or will he flame out like Shawn Abner, another guy who was described as a “can’t miss” prospect after his sophomore year of high school. I don’t know how you do it, but I wouldn’t feel so sure about the future of my team if it hinged on the comeback of an injured pitcher and the success of a teenage #1 draft pick who hasn’t even played a full professional season.

Finally, this “open letter” to LaRoche does nothing more than blow a lot of sunshine up his ass. Sure, the Nats could be a great team if a few things play out right. But so could the Orioles. And, in the end, neither of them are going to compete in 2011 anyway, so why should either of them care about Adam LaRoche? If the future is so bright in Washington, why not wait and sign Prince Fielder to get there faster?

by nbe1 on Dec 10, 2010 10:13 PM EST reply actions  

Someone got up on the wrong side of the bed today ...

Dude – It’s not “journalism,” it’s not even in the main section of the blog. It’s a “fanpost.” And in case you missed the point, it’s an advocacy piece. Of COURSE it’s sunshine and roses! Yeesh.

I mean, your “counters” are pretty weak. You concede the first point, albeit rather obliquely and gracelessly. I admit I’m not so clear on the point of the Zimmermann/Latos comparison, but hey – roll with it. I get that you think that Desmond and Espinosa would be lucky to be average, and that neither of them will ever be more than average. Apparently other major league teams disagree since many reporters have claimed that they are being sought after by teams in trade talks. Whose word should I take for it?

The response to your concern about the Werth contract hamstringing the team is: $2.5 BILLION.

Your attempt to talk Wieters up to Zimmerman’s level is just laughable. On the bright side, I suspect that even you know it.

Oh, and Strasburg won’t begin a throwing program for a few more weeks, and won’t be back until August at the earliest.

And one last note: I don’t think that LaRoche or his agent are reading this blog (sorry, Patrick). Kthxbye

by d_c_guy on Dec 11, 2010 12:39 AM EST up reply actions  

My assumption on Strasburg and Harper was that LaRoche would be offered a two year deal.

by David Huzzard on Dec 11, 2010 9:01 AM EST up reply actions  

If we got a two year deal, poor Rizzo wouldn’t get to throw in losing bids on Prince Fielder, Ryan Howard, Pujols and possibly even Adrian Gonzales!

by dc Roach on Dec 11, 2010 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Too soon to start a "Nats trying for Pujols" rumor?

"And everybody lived happily ever after. Except the Phillies and the Mets. The End." --Sasskuash
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by Doghouse on Dec 11, 2010 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Wait

But I know a guy, who knows a guy who’s cousin’s half-sister, said that the Nats are trying to be more competitive this year so they can sign Pujols next off-season.

In case you're wondering, I'm working out and plan to be in the best shape of my life come spring.

by Giant Torture on Dec 13, 2010 9:01 AM EST up reply actions  

2 of those three are already signed for several years.

If we wanted Fielder or Howard we should have just kept Dunn.

Aim for the head baby Jesus

by Doncosmic on Dec 11, 2010 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

You joined just to say that?

Really? If you were a member of Camden chat and just joined FB to say that, it would be a bit more understandable, but you joined SB nation just to say THAT? I have to say my verdict on this is DO NOT FEED THE TROLL. (On a side note, Zimm went to UVA, no, he didn’t play 4 years there, but he did in fact play in college.)

Aim for the head baby Jesus

by Doncosmic on Dec 11, 2010 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Methinks somebody is a bit too sensitive about his Orioles. Perhaps you’d like to focus your energies on Orioles boards rather than get offended by somebody’s goal of getting Adam LaRoche? Orioles have made some good moves to improve their team. Congrats.

The wait for 10/7 begins. This man is focused. Are you?

by souldrummer on Dec 11, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Troll, troll, troll, troll.....

In case you're wondering, I'm working out and plan to be in the best shape of my life come spring.

by Giant Torture on Dec 13, 2010 8:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm a fan of both teams...

I’ll say this it was a fun fan letter to LaRoche and actually being a fan of both teams I’d like to see LaRoche on the Nats, that being said the O’s are the better long term bet. Sure they are in the toughest division but they have a better collection of young talent:

Zimmerman might be better than Weiters, but that was the kid’s first full year, there are plenty of stars who started out with worse numbers (particularly at a tough position like catcher). And Strasburg and Harper should be stars, but the O’s have far more solid regulars to good everyday players than the Nats do. Not to mention a rotation of Matusz, Guthrie, Arrieta, Tillman with Britton waiting in the wings. Sure Strasburg might be better than all of them, but the Nats can’t come close to a total rotation. The O’s played ridiculous under Showalter last year (I mean they were on pace for something like 95 wins), which included a winning record against the East. Add Reynolds, Hardy and (likely) Britton to the mix and they could go out and win 80+ games this year (esp. if they added a LaRoche).

Overall I really don’t see any reason why there should be a “beltway rivalry” (i love the games played i mean the fan hatred) since the teams really don’t affect one another. And in fact the more successful both teams are, the more money they make from MASN. Personally I’d like to see the O’s target a young 1B via trade, and maybe sign a Derek Lee to trade at the deadline. LaRoche makes sense for the Nats b/c i’m not a Marrero believer and the Nats need to trade for young starting pitching and a CF (speaking of which Felix Pie anyone?)

Steveospeak- content manager of www.fanspeak.com

by Steve Shoup on Dec 12, 2010 11:31 AM EST reply actions  

Responses on a few of these items

1) On the Beltway rivalry: There is one because Angelos is a jerk who tried to hold up the establishment of the franchise and created a deal that is a long term negative with MASN.

2) Until further notice, the Orioles are behind the Red Sox, Yankees and Bo Sox. I don’t see how a relying on youth and other pieces is going to vault them past four teams in the near future.

3) You can comment on this better than I can: How did the Orioles draft in 2010? Are they going for the overslot guys in the draft?

4) Will the Orioles spend on a big free agent in the forseeable future?

5) The Nats do have some prospects that you aren’t mentioning. The Nats have a cost controlled shortstop who had a solid rookie year, a cost controlled second basemen who is likely a solid player, tremendous prospect depth at catcher and a lot of strong draftees in the lower minors.

Really the difference is here is who is willing to spend, do you like the hype and publicity that will be part of playing on a team with Strasburg and Harper as you try to broadcast your talents for your next deal, and which team do you think is more likely to make the postseason in the next two years.

The wait for 10/7 begins. This man is focused. Are you?

by souldrummer on Dec 12, 2010 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Quick thoughts:

1. I don’t disagree with you I hate Angelos, but I think it is time the Nats and their fans stop complaining about the MASN deal. Hate Angelos for being awful and trying to prevent their coming, but don’t hate him for the MASN deal. The Orioles assumed most of the costs in starting the Network, as well as doing most of the production work. And the progressive % deal makes sense if the Nats aren’t assuming an equal share of the costs. Not to mention the Orioles were obviously bringing the dedicated fanbase to the station. And so far the Orioles viewership is still above the Orioles (though the gap is closing, thank you Stephen Strasburg). Also since the deal guarantees that the Nationals and Orioles get the same amount for their rights. I don’t know what it is now but 3 years ago it was $25 million, not bad for 13,000 viewers. By comparison the Rays only got like $13 million last year and this is a team that had the best record in baseball. If the Nats had to negotiate a deal with an FSN or CSN are they really going to be getting $25 million a year (which I’m sure is even higher now). On top of all of that the Nats get s percentage of the Stations profits, not too shabby considering no other network would do that (and no way the Nationals would be able to create their own network). The reason why the Nats can sign a Werth and still be active in FA is because their TV money is guaranteed something most last place teams can’t say. Imagine what the Pirates would do if they got $25 million plus a % of the stations revenue (so what if it is 20%, that is 20% more than you’d otherwise get).

2. I agree the O’s are in 5th place, but Showalter really turned that team around, so maybe just maybe guys like Wieters, Arrieta, Tillman, Reimold etc. who struggled in the past will preform like they were projected to. No one thought the Blue Jays would win 80+ games in that division this year, or the Rays go to the W.S. in 07. Now the O’s might not be that good but .500 is possible (finally).

3. O’s have been spending more in the draft, but no they aren’t as aggressive as the Nats. They primarily have gotten a number of guys in the 500K-900k range, instead of the A.J. Cole types.

4. That is a good question. I hope so, but remember even a couple years back they showed they will have a payroll north of $90 million, so hopefully they will do so again.

5. Don’t get me wrong I love Desmond and Espinosa, and long term I’m happy with them (in fact I worry about the hole they would create if the Nats deal them for a pitcher). And they def. are improving their prospect depth, and have a stronger system than the O’s. But a lot of that is most of the O’s prospects the last two years have graduated. Sure they aren’t all producing, but their is plenty of promise. For me the Nats have better stars, but the O’s are deeper.

It could go either way, and I really love both teams, but in the end I want the Nats to get LaRoche (though would love to see the O’s get Lee, assuming they won’t sign Beltre and move Reynolds to 1B).

Steveospeak- content manager of www.fanspeak.com

by Steve Shoup on Dec 12, 2010 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Meh

I dislike Angelos, because he’s ruined what should be a top level franchise. I always respected “the Oriole Way” back in the day even as I root for the Yankees. It’s sad what that team has become.

I had a bit of a grudge against Baltimore fandom generally for a while, because I got tired of being told that DC didn’t need a team, we had the Orioles … but after the Colts left I would offer that Baltimore didn’t need a team, they had the Redskins. This didn’t go over very well, and I resented the double standard. That said, the Nats are in town now and I’m willing to let go of that. Well, I would except for the bellowing during the National Anthem – that’s just wrong, and it should be obvious. But I have friends who are O’s fans and they’ve had a rough go of it for the last 10-12 years or so.

I think that the Nats have a better shot at making 4th place then the O’s do, because the Mets are, well, a mess – and there’s no equivalent in the AL East. And while the Nats have to play the Phillies 18 times, the O’s have to play the Yankees and the Red Sox 36 times … and the Rays won the division and their rotation is still intact, bringing that total to 54 games against 3 of the 4 or 5 best teams in the AL. Yuck. And the Blue Jays are a young team that finished over .500 last year and can’t be counted out.

by d_c_guy on Dec 13, 2010 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

This letter is interesting

in light of Lee signing with Philly. Whoopsadoodle.

by short on Dec 15, 2010 8:32 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah I talk about not making assumptions all the time and tell people to expect the unexpected and then don’t follow my own advice. I edited it up to reflect the current situation.

by David Huzzard on Dec 16, 2010 7:39 AM EST up reply actions  

No matter who LaRoche signs with

Both teams have a giant mountain to climb. In terms of success, obviously La Roche has better shot at World Series in DC. AL East has 3 of last 7 titles, and Sox and yanks rarely miss playoffs. Orioles have improved mainly because they have a proven winner, Buck, managing the team. Orioles have more upside but its going to be harder for them to succeed in the tougher American League.

by IggesRule13 on Dec 21, 2010 12:14 PM EST reply actions  

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