Washington Nationals Wanted Zack Greinke, D.C. GM Mike Rizzo Would Have Made Deal.
Lost in all the, "the Nationals are better off not gutting their roster" talk which followed the Milwaukee Brewers' acquisition of now-former Kansas City Royals' right-hander Zack Greinke here and elsewhere, is the fact that D.C. GM Mike Rizzo was willing to make the deal and would have if the 27-year-old one-time Cy Young award-winner hadn't used his no-trade clause to block a move to the nation's capital's Nats. Zack Greinke would be a Washington National right now. Washington was one of 15 teams the pitcher contractually had the right to say no to, and according to reports from SI.com's Jon Heyman which were later confirmed by MLB.com's Bill Ladson, that's just what Greinke did. The Nationals made the best offer, or at least the one that Kansas City's general manager Dayton Moore liked best, but the deal Greinke signed with the Royals ultimately allowed him some power to determine his destination and he used it to avoid being dealt to Washington.
"Royals had been talking about getting RHP Drew Storen, SS Daniel Espinosa, others from #nats, but Greinke said no to Washington," SI.com's Jon Heyman (@SI_JonHeyman) wrote on Twitter shortly after the deal between Kansas City and Milwaukee became official Sunday morning, "Greinke rejected Nats but accepted Brewers [because] he believes Milwaukee can win sooner, I hear. Also said to like city." Milwaukee-Wisconsin Journal-Sentinel writer Tom Haudricourt in a blog post yesterday entitled, "Nationals opened door for Brewers", wrote of how Brewers' GM Doug Melvin, "jumped in the breech to acquire [the] right-hander," but only, "after Greinke nixed a proposed trade to Washington," which depending on your sources could have included Espinosa, Storen, pitcher Jordan Zimmermann, catching prospect Derek Norris, or potential future outfielders Michael Burgess or Destin Hood. (Yes, someone mentioned Hood.)
After a career of losing in Kansas City, the Royals' '02 no.1 overall pick reportedly saw the Brewers as a more competitive team, with a chance of making a run at the post season in the near future. "Apparently," the Journal-Sentinel's Mr. Haudricourt wrote, Greinke must have, "...figured Washington was not on the verge of doing so, and I think most baseball people would agree." The 27-year-old right-hander had to look no further than the Nats' skipper Jim Riggleman if he wanted to know how the Nats view the own prospects for future success.
In a late October interview with 106.7 The Fan in DC's Mike Wise Show w/ Holden Kushner, the Nationals' manager told the shows hosts when asked (as recounted by Washington Post D.C. Sports Bog writer Dan Steinberg in a post entitled, "Riggleman: Nats will make move by mid-'12"), that with recent success in the draft and the continued improvement of the prospects already on the roster, "'I think that by the middle of the year '12, [the Nats] ballclub could really be putting some pressure on the rest of the division.'" Which is exactly what Greinke said he didn't want to wait for in Missouri.
Greinke's heading into the final two years of the 4-year/$38 million dollar extension he signed in 2009 to avoid going to arbitration with the Royals. The deal would end by the time either the Royals or Nats believe they'll be ready to compete, and though I'd always assumed Washington wouldn't have made a deal without at least the promise of an extension in place, there's been no such talk out of Milwaukee in the forty-eight hours since reports of the deal first broke. According to at least one reporter's sources, however, if the Nats have been able to sign another pitcher this winter, or he had chosen another home, the Nationals might have found their ace.
Though there's been no confirmation, outside of what Jayson Werth and once-again Phillies' lefty Cliff Lee said about possibly signing in the same city in their press conferences, that Lee had once seriously considered Washington as a home, MASNSports.com's Phil Wood wrote early Sunday morning in an article entitled, "Greinke goes to Milwaukee, assist to Cliff Lee" that his sources tell him Greinke at one point considered D.C. an acceptable destination:
"He'd previously shown a willingness to come to D.C. - until Cliff Lee signed with the Phillies.
"According to sources close to Greinke, the Nationals, following the acquisition of Jayson Werth, looked like a solid spot, but that Lee joining the Phils' rotation changed everything. The road to a NL East postseason berth narrowed considerably in Greinke's mind, but the NL Central? That's a winnable division, possibly as soon as this season."
Having lost out on Greinke, will the Nationals turn to the top free agent left on the market and sign soon-to-be 35-year-old right-hander Carl Pavano? Though Pavano's name has been mentioned in connection with the Nationals' search for a starter, FOXSports.com's Ken Rosenthal wrote in an article entitled, "After Greinke deal, Pavano-Twins reunion more likely", that his own, "...sources say the Texas Rangers and Washington Nationals – who had attempted to acquire Greinke – haven’t seriously pursued Pavano," though he expects they might now that Greinke's no longer a possibility. The Nationals would now have to outbid not only Pavano's former team, but every other club still in search of "front-line" pitching.
The Nationals were willing to deal some of the top talent in their system to acquire Greinke. They were willing to sign Cliff Lee if he would have come to D.C. They expressed interest in potential international free agent Yu Darvish before he decided to remain in Japan at least until next winter. The Nats might still make a deal with Tampa Bay for Matt Garza if the Rays decide they are willing to part with a starter, or they could just wait.
When confronted with the reality of the pitching market at the GM Meetings early last month, D.C. GM Mike Rizzo recognized what was going on out there and as he told Washington Post writer Adam Kilgore, as quoted in a Nationals Journal post entitled, "The Nationals' search for a top starter won't be easy", though he recognized the need for a top of the rotation arm, and was willing, "... to go every avenue to get that player," they might just have to, "...wait until [2012] to obtain it, [when] Stephen Strasburg and Jordan Zimmermann become that 1 and 2." Go ahead and sign Pavano if you want, and he'll be a strong no.3 in the second and third year of his deal, or wait and see what's available next winter. There are other holes to fill on the Nats' roster. Having failed to sign or acquire a pitcher, address those.
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Well Grienke is an over sensitive little twerp anyways
We dont need him to pitch in the nations capital… It ESPECIALLY wasnt worth losing Zimmerman, Desmond, and Storen….
I hope he throws his arm out pitching in Milwaukee.. The brewers havent exactly set the world on fire.
Over sensitive?
Maybe you need a little more sensitivity.
lol maybe your over sensitive too
really im just jokingly bitter about the fact that he doesnt want to pitch in DC.
relax el beisbol
But is it really wrong to feel that
Id rather our Ace wasnt taking Prozac if and when we get to the playoffs… Im assuming there’s a lot of “anxiety” in the playoffs…
Polanski article on Grienke.....
was pretty well read by most on this blog so that might be why a few of us aren’t taking the “Grienke is soft” ave. He sounds like a competitor to me I say good luck to him….
by NewJerseyAveSE on Dec 20, 2010 9:30 AM EST up reply actions
i may be missing something
but this article says absolutely nothing about Greinke. It only takes about the Royals system and how they like to trade away all their good players…
Nolasco signs contract extension with Marlins
off the table, for those of you who thought he was worth chasing
3 years & $26.5 million
Enjoy fish
He’s not bad at the back end of a rotation, and I think that it’s appropriate for him. We have a lot of volume at the back end. Don’t know how much quality, but certainly a lot of volume.
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by souldrummer on Dec 20, 2010 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
He's better than that
He would be the Nats second-best pitcher in 2011 if they could have grabbed him. I didn’t really think they could though… the Marlins know they have an undervalued stud in Nolasco.
Rob
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." -- Rogers Hornsby
Back end of the rotation means he’s probably a fourth starter. A fourth starter looks like a stud on our rotation.
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by souldrummer on Dec 20, 2010 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
What makes you think he’s going to be significantly better than he’s been the last two years?
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by souldrummer on Dec 20, 2010 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
Again
it is his underlying “ability” stats, not things like ERA: 8.02 k/9 and 2.12 bb/9 career is actually worse than last year’s. THAT is why I personally think he is more likely than not to produce much better results than he has in the recent past.
by William.Hatheway on Dec 20, 2010 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
Maya did well in international ball before coming here, as well...
Is his winter ball competition anything like the majors? Otherwise, I’m afraid I’m going to hold my breath after being present at his MLB debut…
by William.Hatheway on Dec 20, 2010 9:40 AM EST up reply actions
Winter ball is not major league calibre
Doing well in winter ball is no indicator of success in the majors, but not doing well in winter ball would be a bad sign. Maya has done very well, which is a good sign.
Certainly better than not doing well. I think we’re very interested in his control numbers as well. He was struggling some with command of all of his varied repertoire when he was here.
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by souldrummer on Dec 20, 2010 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
"some"
lol… 3.81 BB/9 when you need to balance out a 4.05 K/9 is, yes, a slight bit of an issue
by William.Hatheway on Dec 20, 2010 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
That was a qualifier for laziness in looking up the stats. But know, his control was not good. I’m not sure exactly what the cause was. If it was fear of MLB hitters, that’s not solvable in Winter Ball. If it was rust and needing more minor league rehab at AAA, Winter Ball is a more positive sign.
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by souldrummer on Dec 20, 2010 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe Garza is "cheaper"
in terms of our talent, and perhaps because Tampa absurdedly has a surplus of SPs, I’d like to hope that they might go for it without taking one of the two the Nats need to keep
by William.Hatheway on Dec 20, 2010 9:41 AM EST reply actions
Sorry, I don't buy the he's a competitor, good luck stuff. He's a jerk for nixing
a trade. He demands to be traded and then blows up the deal his club wants to make. In my book that’s a jerk. I take the Stephen Strasburg view of things, “If he doesn’t want to be here, we don’t want him.”
I wish everyone would stop defending this guy. Milwaukee? Really?
Patiently waiting for "next year" since 1971.
That's where I stand
Sometime the best trade is the trade you didn’t make. I understand Greinke’s process. Had we been aggressive about showing a win now attitude by keeping Dunn to prevent our hole at first base and by keeping Willingham to prevent our hole in the outfield, it might be easier for him to feel that he’s not being asked to carry the team on his back. Even having Greinke is maybe 5-6 more wins tops. We don’t really seem to have much else that guaranteed we’re better as a roster besides Greinke because Werth is basically balanced by the subtractions. Don’t blame him at all. If you don’t like this Rizzo, either go all in or the money or be patient with your prospects.
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by souldrummer on Dec 20, 2010 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
Why on earth...
Would the Nats want him anyway?
Greinke only has 2 years left on his contract anyway, and the Nats aren’t projected to compete for the division in the next 2 years.
So Rizzo would be giving up prospects the Nats would most likely need for their run during 2013 and beyond…..for what? Winning 5-10 more games during losing seasons in 2011 and 2012?
Sounds like Greinke saved the Nats from tmaking a decision they should not have made anyway.
From the looks of what the Brewers gave for him,
the Nationals didn’t have to give much up.
Skins rule
by Horcasitas4 on Dec 20, 2010 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
I believe they wouldn’t have had to give up Zimmermann. I don’t know what else they would or wouldn’t have had to give up. Maybe Lannan and or Detwiler? You know that KC was going to want some pitching back, and you know Rizzo would have been real reluctant to give up Zimmermann.
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by souldrummer on Dec 20, 2010 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
All indicators suggest that we had the winning bid
Rizzo was ready to beat the bid of three young major leaguers and a top prospect. It wouldn’t have been pretty.
I'm at the point now
where none of the remaining available pitchers are attractive enough to pursue. Neither are any of the first basemen.
To me, it was an admirable effort to sign a true ace to the team, a guy that could have helped the Nats become far more competitive; but he like so many before him said he did not want to be part of a bad baseball team — which has the unpleasant effect of ensuring the team will be bad. Now, the Nats opportunities are for mid-level, aging, or broken starters, and light-hitting, declining, or vastly overrated first basemen. None of those people will help the Nats become competitive. They will all cost lots of money. And none of them offer much more than the team has available already.
So call it an offseason. Sorry, Jayson. That’s just how it works around here.
Rob
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." -- Rogers Hornsby
Disagree
Who would play first? Morse? That is not as good a solution as signing Lee or LaRoche (preferably Lee, since he isn’t asking for three years).
You sign Lee and hope he rebounds.
"Rebounds"?
Last season was his rebound. He has been on the decline for a long time now. 2009 was the aberration, not 2010.
If Lee has a better season next year than Morse, it will most likely be a marginally better one. For roughly 10 million dollars, you have got to want better than mere marginal improvement.
Rob
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." -- Rogers Hornsby
Here's the other problem
Right now, if anybody goes down you’ve got potential disaster. There is no real option to credibly fill in at a lot of positions. Yes, there are a lot of similarities to bringing in Lee here as there are with the Braves bringing in Troy Glaus. Your banking on a heroic return from injury. To me, though, if it’s for one year I don’t see the big loss in giving him a whirl. I don’t think he’d be much worse than Morse at first, and remember that your basically handing Roger Bernadina an every day job in left field if you don’t improve in the outfield or first base. I don’t care which position you improve at, but there’s got to be more depth in the lineup than there is now.
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by souldrummer on Dec 20, 2010 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
Fine,
then sign one of the marginal guys like Kotchman or Sweeney as backup. They’ll be a lot cheaper than Lee.
Rob
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." -- Rogers Hornsby
Have no problem with that.
Nor does Rizzo. See below.
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by souldrummer on Dec 20, 2010 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
I think they have to sign Lee for all the reasons SD mentioned. And don’t forget Morse would be being asked to play a position that he has little if any significant experience thus defeating the Rizzo’s defense defense defense mantra.
10 million, or whatever it takes, lets get it done already.
As an interim option, I think that Morse’s defense will be acceptable. First base defense is real overrated to me. Maybe he won’t be sunshine and lollipops for Rizzo, but I don’t think he’s the worst thing in the world as a transitional option to see if he really is a late bloomer. Certainly, see him comparable with LaRoche and Lee. It’s just I like the depth and redundancy of getting another option.
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by souldrummer on Dec 20, 2010 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
Morse future?
I’m still wondering what his future holds. If he can perform like he did last year over a full season, he has no business being a utility player, but with his history of injuries leaving him without a baseline it’s hard to tell. I’d love to give him the chance to play every day, whether in left field or if need be at 1st.
I do still want Derrek Lee signed (plus a decent utility infielder).
Does Morse have a history of injuries?
I mean he was injured at the beginning of last year, but he missed most of his at bats due to a platoon and there determination to give Bernadina at bats. I believe there belief in Bernadina, like their belief in Nyjer Morgan is misplaced.
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by souldrummer on Dec 20, 2010 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
On July 6, 2006, Morse had surgery to repair a torn medial meniscus of his right knee. In 2008, Morse had the best batting average in the major leagues in spring training batting .492. After playing only 5 games in 2008, Morse suffered a torn labrum diving for a ball against the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim; he had surgery to repair it and missed the rest of the season.
Thanks much for the info. I guess I’m thinking mostly of his time here where I don’t think injuries have been a problem. There’s two ways to go with that injury history. One, he could be that he’s injury prone. Two, he could be less prone to injury at first base and that injury history could explain why it’s possible for him to blossom into a legit everyday player.
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by souldrummer on Dec 20, 2010 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
Last season was his rebound?
Last year he had 19 HR’s with what like 80 RBI’s and a 260. BA… That was his WORST season. Certainly not a rebound year….
are you deliberately overlooking the 09’ season when he had 35 hrs, 111 RBI’s and a 306. BA?
Bad season, good season, bad season, good season
For years with this guy.
power numbers drop sometimes
but since 2004 the guy hasn’t hit below 286. and even that was an injury year. He’s defense has ALWAYS been solid although it has declined slightly as he’s aged.
So yeah, his power numbers dropped but hes a consistent hitter and defender. He cant control how many RBI’s he gets if no one is standing on base..
He’s not Albert Pujols but what am I missing? He seems like an immediate upgrade over what we have now..
He hit .260 last year. .287 for Atlanta, .251 for the Cubs.
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by souldrummer on Dec 20, 2010 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
ive already acknowledged the DOWN season in 10'
but you notice he got his BA up at the end of last year..
Just responding to this.
but since 2004 the guy hasn’t hit below 286If I didn’t, RobBobs would. And you don’t want to mess with RobBobs – Like James Brown, RobBob don’t take no mess.
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by souldrummer on Dec 20, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
well i guess I took it for granted that i had just stated
“Last year he had 19 HR’s with what like 80 RBI’s and a 260. BA… That was his WORST season. Certainly not a rebound year….”
and that it would be assumed that I was speaking about OTHER than 2010
I’m a literal and gullible dude and forgot the first comment. Apologies.
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by souldrummer on Dec 20, 2010 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
Each of his numbers last year were the lowest they have ever been
since 1999…….
i think he refound his power stroke in 09’ but the rest of his numbers were consistent with his entire career. Hard to consider than an abberation..
I guess im new to the baseball discussion though so id be happy to be corrected as to how im “missing the big picture” i guess
?
For someone who has been “on the decline for a long time now”, he sure has some nice seasons sprinkled in there — 05, 07, 09.
It’s not out of the question that he would perform well this year, particularly considering he was coming off surgery. I can also play well defensively (better than Morse), which Rizzo seems to value.
e.g. using BBR's WAR values
2007: 3.1
2008: 2.1
2009: ?.?
2010: 1.5
Without the 2009 numbers, he looks a lot like a guy in decline. To me, 2009 was a blip, a positive sign of life, but not one I would pin my 10 million hats on.
Rob
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." -- Rogers Hornsby
Basically, the deal is how much do you attribute injuries to 2010?
The Derrek Lee of Chicago was pretty lousy: .251/.335/.416/.751 in 475PA.
The Derrek Lee of Atlanta was consistent with his career numbers: .287/.384/.465 .849 in 151 PA. It’s a roll of the dice as to which one you get, but given where we are at this time, he seems to better than other available options and has pretty neutral platoon splits. OPS .773 against righties; OPS .777 against lefties. He’s also a flippable option should he outperform his contract. He wasn’t offered arbitration by ATL, correct? So he wouldn’t cost us a draft pick?
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Problem, Nats still aren't really spending on FA
They brought in Werth and lose Dunn, so the team is only 1-5 games better. And with the Braves and Phillies 25+ games ahead and both teams made significant improvements to their team, so why would someone that wants to win now come to Washington? Perhaps if they had picked up several FA, but spending the mother load on one player backfired. And not knowing if Strasburg will ever pitch again and have the same velocity? yes, they have some great young potential talent, but most FA not making the big bucks want to play for a winner now or within a year, and not 3-5 years down the road.
Dunn for Werth is essentially a wash
Dunn and Willingham for Werth is a net loss of at least two games.
Rob
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." -- Rogers Hornsby
SD finally convinced me
that with Werth and then Bryce coming up, and no way the Nats win with even a 15 game improvement, they should play for next year … when there would be no space for Willingham.
by William.Hatheway on Dec 20, 2010 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
Sure there would be space for the Hammer
Willingham/Werth/Harper would be an excellent outfield.
Rob
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." -- Rogers Hornsby
And we all know that he’s married to Nyjer and likes defense. I agree that this would be an attractive outfield, but I think you’re forgetting the RobBobs principle that Rizzo does the opposite of what you want. Since you arguing that we stand pat at this point, I am optimistic that an announcement for Derrek Lee is coming by Wednesday and that we’ve traded for Garza with about 7 prospects including Zimmermann, Storen, Desmond, Norris, Detwiler, Burgess, and Hood.
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by souldrummer on Dec 20, 2010 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
I just want to clarify
that when SD say “HE’s married to Nyjer…” he doesn’t mean me!! Lol. (Or, at least, I hope you don’t mean me!)
by William.Hatheway on Dec 20, 2010 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, that would be Rizzo, of course.
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by souldrummer on Dec 20, 2010 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
They tried
offered the most of anyone on de la Rossa, etc. I’m glad they didn’t get Vazquez, and caution on Pavano and a three year deal is well warrented. I’m glad Pena isn’t here: look at his trending stats, he’s a power bat on a classic decline line. So who else? It is smart to wait, except maybe Lee is worh a shot.
by William.Hatheway on Dec 20, 2010 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
Rizzo has a $10 million pile in his office
give or take a few million. Anyway, I don’t expect all of that to go unspent.
We don't know whether spending the mother lode backfired or not
Right now, we need to show enough progress in our prospects so that we can be more attractive destination for free agents and others who can be convinced that we are Bryce Harper and Stephen Strasburg away from winning 81 games and that they will be pushing us over the hump for 85-90 games. Likewise, we need some of these guys in the lower and middle minors to make enough progress where they can improve their trade stock.
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by souldrummer on Dec 20, 2010 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
Werth is spending.
It’s just not spending today. It’s spending down the road, basically for 2012 and 2013. If you don’t like Dunn, and you do think he’s going to be your best free agent option for 2012 and 2013 it does make some sense to spend on him now. Next year, he becomes a possible reason to watch the team (or at least for Stan Kasten to market for more Philly fans to come to the park). For 2012 and 2013, you hope that he’s a great mentor to Bryce Harper as a fellow right fielder and you hope that he can be a key part of the contending window.
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by souldrummer on Dec 20, 2010 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
Ankiel?
@SI_JonHeyman: ankiel signs with #nationals. $1.5 mil, plus $1.25 mil in performance bonuses.
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by Patrick Reddington on Dec 20, 2010 11:00 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Just was gonna post this.. Why did we sign him?
On and off with Bernie?.. Waste of money is my first reaction.
LH Bat
Extra OF, bat off bench against RH.
Hmmm.
Do they think he can play every day?
Rob
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." -- Rogers Hornsby
Consider him Bernie/Nyjer insurance and bench
He’s slightly above replacement but definitely meh. Nyjer was subreplacement last year. Likewise Roger Bernadina was around replacement. So just like we’re about volume at the back end of the rotation, appears we’re about volume in the outfield. The bigger question is what does this mean for Michael Morse and Rizzo’s thoughts on our likelihood of getting Derrek Lee. Got to believe we’re out of the LaRoche sweepstakes for better or worse.
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by souldrummer on Dec 20, 2010 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
cough let’s not get carried away with the Nyjer bashing. His 2010 season may seem subreplacement compared to his 2009 season when he produced like a superstar, but it was still a little above replacement. He was better than Bernadina, and I think he has a much better chance of rebounding than Bernadina has of significantly improving.
Thought he was 0.0 WAR fangraphs and -1.1 WAR baseball-reference. I think that he’ll bounce back some, especially defensively. On the basepaths, though, I think that he is what he is. He would also bounce back if Rizzo could sign somebody who is a credible right handed centerfielder besides Jayson Werth.
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by souldrummer on Dec 20, 2010 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
I hadn’t checked baseball-reference. Fangraphs has him at 0.9 WAR, probably mostly because his fielding was still more helpful than harmful.
Yeah, there’s the difference. Fangraphs really didn’t like his defense. Just based on the eye test, I tend to agree. He had some conspicuous mistakes to me, and it was frustrating in the field to watch him miss cutoff men, gamble for the big play early in the year, and struggle at times with his weak arm. I think Ankiel could be better defensively in center and Ankiel will be Nyjer insurance, although I hope that it doesn’t come to that.
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by souldrummer on Dec 20, 2010 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
Morgan is
the nat’s pick for leadoff despite a sub-average BB% and OBP, .077 ISO (so NO power) and not only does he get caught stealing, and the times he doesn’t are in low leverage situations mostly, he was also picked of TWELVE times. He is a terrible, terrible hitter. So, sure, if we expect a bounce back to a ridiculous 34.7/150 UZR, he’ll sort of make up for all that … and that is not something I’d hold my breath for.
by William.Hatheway on Dec 20, 2010 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
To me, Nyjer's 2.0 WAR tops
He’s a fourth outfielder who can back up, much like Juan Pierre was in LA until he took advantage of the Manny opportunity. Difference is that Juan Pierre understands his skill set and seems to be great in the clubhouse and a heady balllplayer, and Nyjer is frequently exasperating.
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by souldrummer on Dec 20, 2010 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed. We need to sign either Lee or LaRoche and go from there.
At this point, either is fine although I know most people don’t agree with my 2 years for LaRoche plan.
by The Herndon Kid on Dec 20, 2010 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
I can live with this
Just don’t ever want to see Ankiel up at the plate against lefties. Good utility OF, adds a bit of depth to a shallow outfield and for pretty cheap.
by Andrew Davidson on Dec 20, 2010 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
So who will be the first guy Ankiel faces? A lefty probably in a Riggs' double-switch.
My first prediction of the season. LOL :)
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by Princess Jazzy on Dec 20, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
What do I need to do says, Michael Morse?
Make a deal with the gods to get the speed tool.
The wait for 10/7 begins. This man is focused. Are you?
by souldrummer on Dec 20, 2010 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
Be 5 years younger?
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Dec 20, 2010 1:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Nats sign minor leaguers:
@NatsTownNews: Nationals ATTs: RHPs Joe Bisenius, Ryan Mattheus & Tim Wood, 1B Michael Aubrey, INF Brian Bixler & OFs Jeff Frazier & Jonathan Van Every.
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Dec 20, 2010 1:25 PM EST via mobile reply actions
It's Monday
what does “ATTs” mean?
Rob
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." -- Rogers Hornsby

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