Washington Nationals: Latest On Chien-Ming Wang...
by Patrick Reddington on Feb 11, 2010 6:53 AM EST
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PrintAs a day full of speculation about where Chien-Ming Wang would sign came to an end, MLB.com's Bill Ladson, who'd been following the story since Boston Globe writer Peter Abraham's first Twitter message linked the 29-year-old free agent right-hander to the Washington Nationals Wednesday morning, posted a message on his own Twitter feed which said that in spite of reports to the contrary, his own unnamed baseball source, "...insisted that a deal is not close between the #Nats and Chien-Ming Wang," who would be sticking to a previously reported 7-10 day window in which he'd make his decision on a home for the twenty-ten campaign...However...
...Boston Globe (Boston.com) writer Peter Abraham's last Chien-Ming Wang-related message of the night quoted New York Newsday's Ken Davidoff's Twitter message which included details of the deal that Nationals and Chien-Ming Wang are not close to signing, with Mr. Davidoff writing that the, "Word in DC is that (the) #Nats will guarantee Wang 2 million, and he can more than double that in incentives."
...ESPN.com's Buster Olney updated a report last night from his colleague at ESPN, Jayson Stark, in an article entitled, "Sources: Chien-Ming Wang to decide". Mr. Stark had reportedly spoken to his own "unnamed source" who said the former NY Yankees' starter was deciding between, "...the Washington Nationals and one other unidentified team." Mr. Olney's report, which confirmed an earlier Twitter message from SI.com's Jon Heyman, stated that, "If the Los Angeles Dodgers were the 'other' team Wang was considering, they aren't anymore." The Dodgers, Mr. Olney writes, "...saw nothing in Wang's throwing session (Wednesday) that would dissuade them from signing him, a source with knowledge of the situation told ESPNLosAngeles' Tony Jackson," but Mr. Olney speculates that the Nationals willingness to offer Wang a major league deal is an advantage, since it's "...something the Dodgers would be hard-pressed to give him because their 40-man roster is full."
...Reports from the China Times last night had Chien-Ming Wang siging for $2 million plus incentives. Washington Post writer Chico Harlan ended the day reporting that, "Wang will pick a team within the next 7-10 days," though his source says the Nationals, "...are way ahead of the pack."
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I hope we can
This is the type of deal we should be trying to make. I hope we sign him. This is the right kind of move. I am so excited. Pitching is what makes teams better.
And Wang's young enough that if he comes back he could stay around...
Seal the deal, RZO!!
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Feb 11, 2010 9:53 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
That is cheap
At $2 mil and incentives, yes they need to persue him hard (hard Wang joke not necessary).
Get it done Rizzo.
Why not us? Why not now?
No reason not to for $2M if that #'s correct...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Feb 11, 2010 9:52 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
100% in favor of it
Make it happen there Riz: You got your relief pitchers, you got your 2nd baseman, you got your first starting pitcher, hell you even made the brilliant move for Pudge even though few were calling that a need for the roster.
Now get the 2nd needed starter and we can say you did EXACTLY what was needed to make the team better.
Show the fans that you knew exactly what the problem was and show us that you did the best you could to fill those holes.
I think Jesus Flores' slow recovery is what made Pudge necessary...
The Nats filled the holes they identified with temporary solutions, but by the time this year’s free agent crop are gone they just have to bee good enough to get a higher level FA than they’ve attracted thus far to supplement what the system’s produced…
Good start for Rizzo. And his FO better kill this draft…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Feb 11, 2010 9:51 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Wang Dang Doodle (preferably by Wolf) in lieu of Sweet Caroline, pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease
Wang Dang Doodle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEjUfu9-W-w
Tell Automatic Slim , tell Razor Totin’ Jim
Tell Butcher Knife Totin’ Annie, tell Fast Talking Fanny
A we gonna pitch a ball, a down to that union hall
We gonna romp and tromp till midnight
We gonna fuss and fight till daylight
We gonna pitch a wang dang doodle all night long
All night long, All night long, All night long
Tell Kudu-Crawlin’ Red, tell Abyssinian Ned
Tell ol’ Pistol Pete, everybody gonna meet
Tonight we need no rest, we really gonna throw a mess
We gonna to break out all of the windows,
we gonna kick down all the doors
We gonna pitch a wang dang doodle all night long
All night long, All night long, All night long
Tell Fats and Washboard Sam, that everybody gonna to jam
Tell Shaky and Boxcar Joe, we got sawdust on the floor
Tell Peg and Caroline Dye, we gonna have a time
When the fish scent fill the air, there’ll be snuff juice everywhere
We gonna pitch a wang dang doodle all night long
All night long, All night long etc.
by Willie Dixon
I'll suggest it to "Coach", but you might...
…have to put together a dance routine too…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Feb 11, 2010 10:22 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Wang at $2M or Bedard at $1.5M
discuss…
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by Dave at District Sports Page on Feb 11, 2010 1:55 PM EST reply actions
Bedard took a low base salary but he stands to make much more in incentives if healthy...
If Wang’s contract is as reported 1-year /$2M + incentives I think that’s a better bargain…
In terms of talent I think Bedard’s the obvious choice.
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Feb 11, 2010 2:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
My only concern about Wang ...
Is that, other than Zimmerman, the Nats’ infield defense is not good. Even when Wang is on the top of his game he’s a sinkerballer. Unless Guz decides to actually lean over and pick up a grounder now and then, Kennedy continues his struggles from last season and Dunn (God love him) remains Dunn, then that’s not a good mix.
Didn’t you hear? The Nats have blamed Guzman’s entire below average 2009 season on a sore shoulder and foot problems.
That was Guzman's agent's opinion too...
Not sure I agree. Bunions don’t keep you from taking pitches…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Feb 11, 2010 2:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
+100
Your voice of doom and gloom. Read more at natsnewsnetwork.blogspot.com
by Dave at District Sports Page on Feb 12, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
But not +.100 OBP...
"And everybody lived happily ever after. Except the Phillies and the Mets. The End." --Sasskuash
Friend of Dukes and Desmond #3
My only concern about Wang ...Is that, other than Zimmerman, the Nats’ infield defense is not good
YOU THINK? So much time spent loading up on “Damaged goods” pitchers ….when all that , probably wasted money, might have swung the O Dog to Gnats town….Any Defense that competes with their 143 MLB leading errors last year……will DOOM this team to worse than just last place in the NL EAST.
The "damaged goods" pitchers will keep DC's young arms from becoming "damaged goods" pitchers while the team improves...
O-Dog would’ve been an upgrade, but he took the guaranteed $…don’t blame him or Rizzo for that…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Feb 11, 2010 2:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You can't fix everthing
I think that slow and steady wins the race. We continue to make improvements. At our current rate of common sense signings plus what hopes to be a good draft, we should have a contender in 2 or 3 seasons. I really hope that no one is expecting a contender next year?
I mean, I am a huge Nats fan, but I am also realistic.
When .500 ball would be a +23 game improvement...
Playoffs seem far away….I’ll settle for less errors, better pitching and the two debuts DC’s waiting for…
WE WANT STRASBURG!! WE WANT STOREN!!!
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Feb 11, 2010 3:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Exactly
Improved D
Improved starting pitching and bullpen
A breakout year from someone unexpected
Then the young studs join the squad!
it all = a lot of fun watching the home team
win or lose…
I couldn’t say that for too many damn years.
There ain’t no need to get your panties in a wad Mamba
I agree. It's so nice to have a real adult like Rizzo at the helm.
Can you imagine what spring training would look like if Bowden were still around?
Oh, and everyone can breathe a sigh of relief: Colome just signed with the Mariners!
P. S. Mamba lives with a perpetual wedgie!
He’d probably explode if he wrote anything positive. Pretty boring.
MissB, how's the winter treating your neighborhood...
I drove my car today for the first time in six days.
I'm Sick, SICK, sick of snow!!! And even more sick of shoveling snow.
I’ll have the shoulders of a linebacker pretty soon.
I haven’t moved my car since last Friday. Even then I had to get a neighbor to get it up the last hill so I could coast down to my driveway. Today I watched everyone slip and slide with little success.. So maybe I’ll take the car out tomorrow.
Even worse, of course, is the godawful play by the Carolina b’ball team. Just unbelievable.
I was marvelling at all the snow pics...
its the usual 30C here…always so damn hot.
"I love, love, love John Lackey." -- Graysnail.
Hot sounds heavenly at the moment.
At least, today we had bright sun and got some snow melt. But now that the temp dropped, it’s turned to black ice on the roads.
Over the past 3 weeks, I measured the snow in my back yard: 6" + 20" + 7" =33" Waaaaaaaaaaaay too much.
Wang's Upside Better Than Others.....
If healthy (big “if” I know), Wang will guarantee a NL 3.50 ERA, with probably 15+ wins. Garland, Pineiro, Davis, and some of the others who are highly discussed? We know for a fact that they will bring a 4.00+ era and MAYBE 12-15 wins. Same for Marquis. A healthy Scott Olsen almost guarantees those numbers. I would be more excited to see Stammen, Detwiler, and Martin in their second season at the MLB level (with mid-late season call-ups for Ballester and maybe Strasburg).
15 wins on the Nats is a bold prediction, sir...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Feb 11, 2010 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
Im predicting a 15 winning pitcher this year...
You heard it here first ed. This IS the year (well, the year this team turns it all around)
"I love, love, love John Lackey." -- Graysnail.
Not Really.....Not for a Healthy Wang
I think our offense helps any pitcher (with an under 4.00 ERA) win a bunch of games. A healthy Wang should pitch in the NL around a 3.50 ERA, and pitch deeper into ball games than our youngsters of a year ago. Anyone who pitches over 4.00, and can’t go deep into ballgames? Not a chance.
On Hot Stove tonight, they mentioned Wang is arbitration eligible in 2011, so this could be a bargain.
They also said May or June could be when he’s ready to pitch again.
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