Washington Nationals: Chien-Ming Wang Talk.
Washington Post writer Chico Harlan put up a Nationals Journal post last night entitled, "Wang contract details, arbitration cases", which made two quick but important points about the deal the Washington Nationals signed with the 29-year-old former New York Yankees' right-hander Chien-Ming Wang yesterday. The Tainan City, Taiwan-born veteran of five MLB seasons will receive a base salary of $2 million dollars in 2010, with the possibility of adding another million in incentives according to Mr. Harlan. But more importantly, Wang's already passed a physical, which means his surgically-repaired shoulder has been examined and OK'd by the Nationals, so the deal isn't pending a physical, it's already done, providing, as Mr. Harlan writes, "...yet another sign that this deal was days in the making."
The LA Dodgers' GM Ned Colletti was on Sirius/XM's Power Alley with Seth Everett and Jim Duquette Tuesday afternoon, soon after the Nationals' deal with Wang was announced, and the hosts asked Mr. Colletti to explain the Dodgers' decision to pass on the free agent pitcher, after widely-circulated reports surfaced last week that Wang had thrown in front of LA's team officials several times, at least once, apparently, in a parking lot:
Ned Colletti: "...We just weren't prepared to, as much as we liked him, and Joe (Torre) knows him of course, and (Don) Mattingly and (Larry) Bowa know him real well and we had interest in him, but in order to do what we were asked to do we needed to see him off a mound, and we needed to see a little bit more where he was and get a little bit better read on when he's likely to come back and what he's likely to come back as. So we were hesistant to guarantee a lot...Had we seen more, had we had more time, had we seen him off the mound two or three times and seen continual improvement we would've been in it, but throwing in a parking lot and throwing two or three times, and not being at a hundred percent and not really knowing when that will come back, even his representatives, you know they're guessing and they're going to guess short, not long, and even their guess is not anytime soon...so we passed on not knowing enough..."
Seth Everett: "Is he really throwing in a parking?"
Ned Colletti: "He was throwing in a parking lot, my friend."
(cont.)...
Jim Duquette: "I've seen my share of those."
Seth Everett: "In back of a Shop Rite..."
Ned Colletti: "Hey, Jim, have you ever signed anybody after you saw them throw in a parking lot?"
Jim Duquette: "No, I can't and I know you can't comment on this, I never signed anybody to a multi-million dollar contract after throwing 60 pitches in a workout like we saw this offseason too, but that's a whole different risk that doesn't pertain to you."
Ned Colletti: "We just needed to see more, you know, he had good command, he didn't hit any cars or anything..." (Laughter)
Mr. Colletti made clear as he continued, that he wasn't making fun of Chien-Ming Wang, just the venue in which they had to watch the pitcher throw...but you have to wonder where DC GM Mike Rizzo watched the right-hander and what he saw that convinced him it was worth the risk. There will be a press conference from Florida on Friday during which I'm sure someone will ask.
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Throwing in the parking lot? That's one of the weirdest things I've ever heard.
It’s really hard for me to believe that EITHER the Dodgers or Wang would agree to that.
(I’m trying to picture it…‘Hey Chien, do you by any chance have your mitt with you? How’s about we go outside and play a little catch in the parking lot, or maybe even a quick game of hotbox! No, it doesn’t matter that you are wearing loafers. Come on it will be fun. What’a you say?" On the other hand ,maybe they were there to do a fitness test! "Hey Chien, how’s your conditioning? I’ve got some erasers here, how’s about we go out to the parking lot so you can do a shuttle run for us? Then, if that goes well, maybe we could toss the ball around a little, I’ve been working on my knuckler and want you to see it.)
If Wang's just throwing off flat ground now...
It’s going to be a long time before his DC debut…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Feb 17, 2010 9:39 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
hopefully at the same time as Strasburg!
2009
Nats fan to usher: "Hey isn’t it a bit early to for the Nationals to erect a statue to Manny Acta?"
Usher: "Uh sir, that’s not a statue, that actually is Manny Acta."
strasburg should make the roster out of spring training. tickets once every 5 days. im guessing sell out if he pitches at home
If he’s on the roster out of ST it could cost them millions down the road (for a handful of starts) when FA hits.
Not to mention how it could hurt his development.
Nothing wrong with a little foreplay.
2009
Nats fan to usher: "Hey isn’t it a bit early to for the Nationals to erect a statue to Manny Acta?"
Usher: "Uh sir, that’s not a statue, that actually is Manny Acta."
i predict september
the way wang is. he will get hurt in the rehab start in may. darn it i want smoltz now
It's anybody's guess. Time will tell.
2009
Nats fan to usher: "Hey isn’t it a bit early to for the Nationals to erect a statue to Manny Acta?"
Usher: "Uh sir, that’s not a statue, that actually is Manny Acta."
....
Perry Mason would have done more detective work than that!
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~Rogers Hornsby
Yes and No
Yes, Perry would have made sure that the detective work was done. No, Paul Drake would have done the actual detective work.
2009
Nats fan to usher: "Hey isn’t it a bit early for the Nationals to erect a statue to Manny Acta?"
Usher: "Uh sir, that’s not a statue, that actually is Manny Acta."
In all fairness
the dodgers and nats are on opposite spectrums of baseball. the dodgers were a hair away from the world series, just spent 26 million on their developing stars, and have a war of the roses situation in ownership. plus colletti clearly wears a rug. or plugs. whatever it is, it is aweful
this is exactly the risk the nationals need to be taking. worse case scenario, they more or less eat 2 million, which in baseball terms is pretty good considering some of the other contracts. best case scenario is that he becomes a star again. more than likely scenario (or the one I hope for), is a mix of becoming a star again and the possibility of moving him to a contender in a few seasons and get some prospects or draft picks.
The other upside to wang is the publicity in asia. I was in Taiwan right after he injured his ankle running out a ground ball. Every wall of the airport, every magazine, every everything had Wang’s face/image on it. The guy is a national celebrity in both taiwan and china. (no pun intended?) This guy may bring in some dollars well worth the 2 million dollar contract, could be a straight bargain.
Why do the Nationals have me humming? I am extremely excited for 2010. Rizzo is a beast!
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~Rogers Hornsby
The other question...
Was it the airport parking lot? Macy’s? Walgreen’s? the Dollar Store?
In some ways this interests me
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~Rogers Hornsby
I should copy and paste the audio here so you can hear the laughs...
Colletti got with the “he didn’t hit any cars” line.
I’d bet it was a parking lot strategically located far from any mound…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Feb 17, 2010 9:38 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I figured the Dodgers were in it because of the Torre-Yanks connection Colletti mentioned...
And also because they’ve done next-to-nothing this winter while losing a few players…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Feb 17, 2010 9:42 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
The Dodgers have zero money to spend and are trying to shed contracts
left and right because of the impending divorce of the warring McCourts.
Colletti is being disingenuous here because they were never going to sign Chien-Ming Wang. This was staged event to sorta make Torre happy (and sad at the same time, knowing there was no $$ for a deal). So Colletti can make all the jokes he wants as they all cry through their tears.
Hooray for the Nats and Rizzo for getting this deal done. Rizzo is still tapping the side of his head!
I'm glad they signed him too.
I just think the whole idea of asking him to throw in the parking lot is preposterous.
And BTW I’m excited and optimistic about this years team too… or, at the very least, the direction they are heading.
When you think about where they were this time last year! Holy Crap, it wasn’t a question of would they lose 100 games, it was how could they not.
2009
Nats fan to usher: "Hey isn’t it a bit early to for the Nationals to erect a statue to Manny Acta?"
Usher: "Uh sir, that’s not a statue, that actually is Manny Acta."
I know this is kind of random, and I'm sure most of you have thought about this
but the Nats could have a 2011 rotation of Strasburg, Lannan, Zimmermann, Marquis and Detwiler. Honestly, Washington could have a chance soon if ownership will spend some money. Zimmerman and Strasburg are quite the cornerstones, signing Zimmerman to that long-term deal was quietly a really great move for them.
I like baseball.
I write for Beyond the Box Score and The Hardball Times Fantasy
That 2011 rotation is all I've been thinking about since Strasburg signed...
Zimmerman signing long-term and committing to DC was huge IMO, they just need to develop/acquire young position players to go with the arms or their problems will flip-flop in a few years…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Feb 17, 2010 10:40 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
2011 with Wang as 5th starter?
Oh, yeah…
"And everybody lived happily ever after. Except the Phillies and the Mets. The End." --Sasskuash
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