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Washington Nationals: Livan Hernandez Is Back Home...Will He Make Rotation?

In one of the more emotional end of the season scenes at the conclusion of the 2009 campaign, Washington Post writer Chico Harlan captured the departure of longtime National and Expo Livan Hernandez, (who'd returned to the nation's capital after being released by the New York Mets to make eight starts at the end of last season), in an article entitled, "Nationals Prepare for Offseason Makeover", where Mr. Harlan described seeing the then 34-year-old right-hander as he left for the winter following a game in Atlanta, and, "...walked through the middle of the Turner Field visitors' clubhouse and raised his arms, as if making a public declaration,"

"'All people, I love you guys," he said. "I hope to see you next year."

"If not," he continued, after a pause, "you know where to find me."

General Manager Mike Rizzo overheard the plea, walked over to Hernández, and said they'd be talking soon.

Star-divide

During December's Winter Meetings in Indianapolis, DC GM Mike Rizzo acknowledged that Hernandez remained one option among many on the free agent market in an article by MLB.com's Bill Ladson entitled, "Nats searching for arms, backup infielder", where Mr. Rizzo was quoted stating, "'We still have some interest in Livan...He is a guy that we have always liked. He is on the list of several pitchers we still have interest in.'" But over two months later, Mr. Ladson spoke to Hernandez again for an article entitled, "Livan interested in returning to Nats", in which a frustrated Hernandez complained that the DC GM hadn't returned his calls or responded since that initial contact at the Winter Meetings: 

"'When I call people, I would like them to respond to my phone calls and talk to me. Sometimes, it's very disappointing and frustrating...I want to show that I can help the team win. It's better now by signing Ivan and a couple of more guys."

Then last week, faced with the revelations of Ross Detwiler's hip injury, unsure about whether or not Scott Olsen would be ready for the season, and after the Nationals reportedly made offers to free agent pitchers Braden Looper and Chan Ho Park, DC GM Mike Rizzo finally made the call to Mr. National Himself, the soft-tossing right-hander who pitched the first game in the franchise's history. Rizzo explained the decision to the Washington Post's Chico Harlan, as quoted in an article entitled, "Livan Hernandez makes his return to the Nationals":

"Livo brings us an experienced guy that we know can eat up innings," Rizzo said. "You know exactly what you're getting with this acquisition. He's a good inventory guy for us. He's a veteran guy. We know what type of pitcher he's going to be. We know him in the clubhouse. So we're really comfortable with that, and he gives us some security."

MASNSports.com's Ben Goessling quoted the DC GM today, however, saying that Livan's not guaranteed a spot in the starting rotation though he does acknowledge, as Mr. Goessling writes, that, "...minor league options are always a factor, and almost every starter candidate has at least one option year left. Based on that alone, it seems likely Hernandez will start the year in the rotation." Hernandez, for his part, after having thrown his first bullpen with Washington told the MASNSports' reporter the same thing he's been saying all winter: 

"Always, I wanted to come back," Hernandez said. "I waited and waited, and so the time has come, and I signed, and that's it. I'm here now."

• ?'s For The DC Faithful...

• Is Rizzo playing mind games to motivate Livan when he says he's not guaranteed a spot? Was he trying to motivate the veteran starter, or give him something to prove by saving him as a fallback option all winter? 

• Do you expect Livan Hernandez to be in the starting rotation when the season begins? 

• Did you want to see Livan Hernandez return or did you think it was time to move on? 

• What does the move tell you about the Nationals' faith in their younger pitchers?

• Will anyone step up to knock Livan Hernandez or Miguel Batista out of the rotation? 

• Livan Hernandez 2010 Projections

Bill James - 31 GS, 186.0 IP, (8-13), 4.98 ERA, 4.65 FIP, .294 BAA, 1.50 WHIP, .316 BABIP, 61 BB (2.95 BB/9), 103 K's (4.98 K/9).

CHONE - 30 GS, 180.0 IP, (8-12), 5.05 ERA, 4.92 FIP, 1.56 WHIP, .301 BAA, .316 BABIP, 62 BB (3.10 BB/9), 83 K's (4.15 K/9). 

Marcel - 170.0 IP, (9-11), 5.29 ERA, 4.85 FIP, 1.58 WHIP, .303 BAA, .325 BABIP, 60 BB (3.18 BB/9), 91 K's (4.82 K/9). 

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I guess we'll have to trust in Rizzleman that Dave's Faves, Miguel Hernandez and Livan Batista, are the best choices, right here, right now...

   For the future of the franchise…Are there really that many innings that need eating?

" I was just poking the universe to get things started..." -E. Chigliak, Winter 2009
Mezza: ''Are we there yet?'' ...Roscoe: "In baseball hell? Yes we are."

by cat daddy3000 on Feb 27, 2010 12:10 AM EST reply actions  

Nom, nom, nom...Livan's hungry for innings...

In spite of Rizzo’s AZ connection to the Poet Laureate of the Nationals’ staff, I still can’t imagine the aged veteran Batista’s going to have a better Spring than all the talent the Nats have been stockpiling…c’mon kids!!! Unless that’s not the issue and they want to preserve the younger pitchers somewhat for more competitive days…

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Feb 27, 2010 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

If the young arms don't beat out the vets (roster games notwithstanding...)........

  The baby raccoons will be very agitated…

" I was just poking the universe to get things started..." -E. Chigliak, Winter 2009
Mezza: ''Are we there yet?'' ...Roscoe: "In baseball hell? Yes we are."

by cat daddy3000 on Feb 27, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope Batista's the first one this season to get...

MOCK’d!!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Feb 27, 2010 6:18 PM EST up reply actions  

+1 MOCK'd!!!.....

" I was just poking the universe to get things started..." -E. Chigliak, Winter 2009
Mezza: ''Are we there yet?'' ...Roscoe: "In baseball hell? Yes we are."

by cat daddy3000 on Feb 27, 2010 6:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Livo

I really don’t think you can motivate Hernandez at this point. Riggs may say he doesn’t have a spot, but that won’t make Livo work harder. He has been around the block before.

I think Livo knew he wouldn’t get too many calls this offseason, that is why he displayed so much interest in joining the Nats for this season. I also think most of us had a feeling he would return to DC as well. I think the Nats brass held out and made him take a minor league deal rather than a guranteed deal to show he needed them more than they needed him.

He’ll be on the roster though come opening day, as the “options” thing will come into play. How long he toils on the team, though, will remain to be seen. Here’s rooting for him though.

Why not us? Why not now?

by Expos4 on Feb 27, 2010 1:21 AM EST reply actions  

Jason Bergmann, Brian Bruney, Sean Burnett, Matt Chico, Tyler Clippard, Doug Slaten, Tyler Walker

“These players would have to clear waivers before being sent to the minors.”

  One or two of these guys have to go?

" I was just poking the universe to get things started..." -E. Chigliak, Winter 2009
Mezza: ''Are we there yet?'' ...Roscoe: "In baseball hell? Yes we are."

by cat daddy3000 on Feb 27, 2010 2:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Livan turned "35" last week......."You know exactly what you're getting with this acquisition."

  I’ll just think of him as our Tim Wakefield without the knuckler…

" I was just poking the universe to get things started..." -E. Chigliak, Winter 2009
Mezza: ''Are we there yet?'' ...Roscoe: "In baseball hell? Yes we are."

by cat daddy3000 on Feb 27, 2010 2:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Jaime Moyer

Put up decent numbers at an old age. Even help guide the Phills to the Series.

Why not us? Why not now?

by Expos4 on Feb 27, 2010 4:24 AM EST up reply actions  

In a reduced role, though, and Moyer was none too pleased aboot it...

Still think the NL East is very lucky Philly traded Lee to get Halladay…

Cause with a Lee, Hamels, Halladay rotation, they would’ve coasted to another NL East crown, instead of just handily winning it like they will….

Shock the World Nats!! Or else go Braves til next season!!

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Feb 27, 2010 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

braves rotation is best in the NL.

"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James

by PhDBrian on Mar 1, 2010 12:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Provided Jair Jurrjens is healthy...

I heard the Mets’ rotation options described this week as, "one number one, four number four starters and 4 players fighting to be a 5th starter….

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Mar 1, 2010 12:58 AM EST up reply actions  

The lesson here is to teach your kids to throw lefthanded...

" I was just poking the universe to get things started..." -E. Chigliak, Winter 2009
Mezza: ''Are we there yet?'' ...Roscoe: "In baseball hell? Yes we are."

by cat daddy3000 on Feb 27, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

If there was any way left to motivate Mr. National Himself...

…Livan Hernandez, leaving him dangling until camp actually started might be at or near the top of the list…

I sensed a bit of “I’ll show them” in his comments, and hope he does…

Mr. Goessling’s comments about “options” alone has me and just aboot everyone else penciling him into the rotation…

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Feb 27, 2010 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Livan has pitched the most innings in baseball since 2001

His FIP last season was roughly 4.65. Which is below average. But he loves us and i think he will do everyhting he can to bring value to the ball club. He is not worse than many of our options. I like this signing. a little.

"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James

by PhDBrian on Feb 27, 2010 3:33 AM EST reply actions  

Off the subject

Marlins owner Jeffrey Loria, said last years Marlins team (which won 87 games) underachieved. Another reason I do not like him. I can’t name more than seven guys from that team that put up 87 wins, and he says they underachieved. Please.

Why not us? Why not now?

by Expos4 on Feb 27, 2010 7:15 AM EST reply actions  

Clarification

I’m pretty sure Livan did not pitch the first game in franchise history. He’s old, but not that old. He pitched the first game in Washington Nationals history.

by RobBobS on Feb 27, 2010 3:50 PM EST reply actions  

Good catch.........Chigliak better wear his tri-colour cap backwards to make up for that...

   You sure he’s not old enough?…..

" I was just poking the universe to get things started..." -E. Chigliak, Winter 2009
Mezza: ''Are we there yet?'' ...Roscoe: "In baseball hell? Yes we are."

by cat daddy3000 on Feb 27, 2010 5:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Wear my cap backwards? Never. I get mad when Sean Burnett won't straighten his...

(ed. note – "I don’t really get mad, that was “acting”. Thank you. Thanks.")

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Feb 27, 2010 6:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Bravo...............bravissimo!!!....

  Easy enough to skip over the distinction…….I just wanted to call attention that someone noticed…..Nos Amours!!!

" I was just poking the universe to get things started..." -E. Chigliak, Winter 2009
Mezza: ''Are we there yet?'' ...Roscoe: "In baseball hell? Yes we are."

by cat daddy3000 on Feb 27, 2010 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

As a proud Expos fan myself, I apologize...

I’m being brainwashed by the Montreal Never Happened Crowd…

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Feb 27, 2010 5:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

same thing to me!!!!!

just kidding

"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James

by PhDBrian on Feb 28, 2010 11:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I certainly hope not

Livan is solidly below average. There’s no good reason why any of six or seven young hurlers shouldn’t get the ball instead of Livan… Hernandez is not going to get better (and I think those predictions are very optimistic). The young pitchers will get better, and in any case they’ll all very likely PITCH better than Livan. The Nationals aren’t going to the playoffs with either of these options. So play the youngsters and send Livo on his way.

by RobBobS on Feb 27, 2010 3:55 PM EST reply actions  

I'm jumping on the "Trust in Davey" bandwagon to keep Riggles straightened out about who does what and where....

   Backup plans are not Plan A…..

" I was just poking the universe to get things started..." -E. Chigliak, Winter 2009
Mezza: ''Are we there yet?'' ...Roscoe: "In baseball hell? Yes we are."

by cat daddy3000 on Feb 27, 2010 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I trust in Davey as well

"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James

by PhDBrian on Mar 1, 2010 12:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm a fan of Riggleman but I wonder if

Davey Johnson is the coach in waiting if Riggleman falters?
How many wins would it take for Riggleman to keep his job (assuming they don’t have bad luck with injuries)?

2009
Nats fan to usher: "Hey isn’t it a bit early for the Nationals to erect a statue of Manny Acta?"
Usher: "Uh sir, that’s not a statue, that actually is Manny Acta."

by PerryMason on Mar 1, 2010 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

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