Washington Nationals: Is DC GM Mike Rizzo Done Building?
Anderson Hernandez, Alberto Gonzalez, Ronnie Belliard, Pete Orr, Willie Harris, Ian Desmond...Alex Cintron? If you're asking yourself why the Washington Nationals went out and signed 34-year-old free agent infielder Adam Kennedy after falling short in their pursuit of Orlando Hudson, (who took a guaranteed $5 million from Minnesota over what MLB.com's Bill Ladson ended up reporting via Twitter was a one-year/$4 million dollar offer from the Nationals, which included, "...incentives that could have brought the value of the contract to $5 million,") go back and read the list of players that starts this paragraph. Cristian Guzman is still not 100% after having offseason shoulder surgery, and the Nationals reportedly aren't 100% sure Ian Desmond's ready to play short on an everyday basis in the majors.
Adam Kennedy's played an average of a little over 123 games per season since he started his MLB career by playing 33 games with the St. Louis Cardinals in 1999 after his August 21st debut, which came just two years after the Cards' selected Kennedy with their 1st Round pick, 20th overall out of Riverside, California and Cal State Northridge. In the only season outside of the first that he's played less than 115 games, in 2007, the then-31-year-old infielder played just 87 games before going down with a torn medial meniscus in his right knee. Kennedy was back on the field in 2008, playing 115 games for the St. Louis Cardinals after which he was released...eventually ending up in Oakland where he put one of his best seasons offensively in 2009, while struggling defensively playing third for the first time in his career and even showing signs of decline at second.
Asked by Washington Post writer Chico Harlan in a quick Q&A entitled, "Riggleman on Kennedy signing" if he thought Adam Kennedy addressed need for improved defense in DC, the Nats' skipper Jim Riggleman responded:
"Well (defense is) always important with every club, but it becomes more important when you have pitchers who throw ground balls, and we kind of do. In particular Lannan and Marquis and Stammen. It becomes pretty vital to be able to cover some ground out there and make the plays when you've got guys who will be getting ground balls. We get the ultimate there with the coverage we get from Zimmerman, and we hope we can get more of the same from Kennedy."
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Have the Nationals actually improved their defense though? Did Riggleman really say the Nationals "kind of" have groundball pitchers? Does he tune out during Rizzo interviews? With Adam Dunn at first for a whole year and Adam Kennedy coming off a down year defensively, what will the Nationals get from the right side of the infield? Third base will be okay, but there are question marks at each of the other three infield positions: Will Crisitian Guzman recover fully in time for Opening Day? Will Adam Kennedy rebound from last seasons struggles? Will Dunn be exposed defensively in a full season at first?
One More Pitcher?
Jarrod Washburn? John Smoltz? Livan Hernandez? At the end of another interview with Jim Riggleman, entitled, "Riggleman on Kennedy", .html" target="_blank">MASNSports.com's Byron Kerr mentions that after adding Adam Kennedy, DC GM Mike Rizzo, "...is still shopping for one more veteran starting pitcher to complete the Nats offseason wish list." From the original list of pitchers Mr. Rizzo and Washington Post writer Chico Harlan discussed in a September '09 article entitled, "Reading Materials, Shopping LIsts", only Washburn, Smoltz, and Braden Looper remain. The Nationals have reportedly shown interest in in two free agent pitchers: right-hander Chien-Ming Wang and lefty Noah Lowry. Pedro Martinez? I'm not sure where Mike Rizzo's going to turn if he's serious about adding another arm...Will Rizzo be able to pull off a long-rumored trade to get the extra pitcher he's still after?
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I think we need to go out and sign either Braden Looper or Jarrod Washburn. We have messed around long enough and all the potential candidates we were looking at at the beginning of the off season got signed. But, if we don’t sign a free-agent pitcher, trade josh willingham to a team for a respectable starting pitcher and put Justin Maxwell over in Left Field and that will give us a more athletic and faster outfield for this upcoming season.
by Cap$man78 on Feb 5, 2010 4:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think if anyone was willing to give up that young MLB-ready pitcher...
Hammer would’ve been dealt already. If the Mets had anything to give up they might need an OF, but I don’t think people are going to offer too much for Hammer…
I’d be more worried about going into the seaso with Maxwell starting than i was worried about entering the 2010 season with no backup plan for the middle infield. Maxwell hasn’t been consistently successful at any high level of baseball, same for Bernadina, both of whom I like a lot but haven’t been impressed with.
Maybe Hammer and one of those two could bring back an arm…
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by Ed Chigliak on Feb 5, 2010 6:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Kennedy is likely an improvement over last season no question cause our secondbase was downright awful
but his real value is very limited since he has not had a WAR over 2 since 2005. I have to wonder about Guzman’s health with this signing. Guzman at second and Desmond at SS seems like the more logical and price sensitive choice to me. Desmond sure looked like a guy who could easily give us a 1.5 WAR this season when he played last year (what I expect from Kennedy). It has to be questions about Guzman’s ability to start that has lead to this signing.
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by PhDBrian on Feb 5, 2010 4:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Report on Guzman the other day definitely did not say/guarantee he'll be ready for Spring Training....
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by Ed Chigliak on Feb 5, 2010 4:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well losing Guz for long chunks of the season is not anything close to a fatal blow
It gives us more information on Desmond. This franchise does need some depth in the infield badly though. If Guz is out and Desmond gets hurt in April we might have to see Gonzalez at SS again (ugh!)
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by PhDBrian on Feb 5, 2010 5:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We need to make a trade
I will be happy enough to welcome John Smoltz, Chien-Ming Wang or Pedro Martinez to the Nats, if that is what it comes to, but I believe that the best opportunity for the team would be a trade that brings a young promising pitcher. Since every team wants to do this, I realize that it is unlikely.
I am not convinced that Ian Desmond is somebody worth worrying about. Maybe this is almost mean, but we actually cared about Kory Casto a couple of years ago, too. What the heck- we wanted Desmond to have a chance to make the team in 2005. He is not a top prospect, and I would like to win more games this year. It may be that the best thing is to have Kennedy this year, get a better idea of Desmond’s defense in Syracuse, and then consider signing established SS and 2B veterans next year.
Of course, if the team continues to be snubbed along the way Hudson snubbed DC, then this may be bad advice. Would I love to see Desmond become a star? Absolutely. I just don’t believe he has earned a starting spot in light of the OK but not great work of Cristian Guzman, and the salary he is making.
by Positively Half St. on Feb 5, 2010 5:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Desmond wont likely be a star
but an average starting second basemen is possible, and that is nothing to belittle. No team has ever won a world series with above average players at every position. It just is not realistic. Therefore, an average all round guy that can play all year for 5-7 seasons is useful and that is Desmond’s upside. Not sure if he can reach heights anywhere close to that this season, but I am hopeful. He looked much better with his bat last season than I expected.
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by PhDBrian on Feb 5, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A lot of the Expos' picks left in the system leave you wondering...
…if they were chosen because they were the best available or the most likely to sign with Montreal….Desmond’s just been hyped for so long you think he’d be ready by now…For Frank’s sake, Frank Robinson was one of the first to sing his praises back in the old RFK days.
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by Ed Chigliak on Feb 5, 2010 6:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
?'s For the DC Faithful...my answers
This infield is somewhat better defensively than last season, but it has still got to be considered a major weakness of the club unless Kennedy can give us his 2002-2006/2008 defense and not his 2007/2009 defensive skills. Maybe I am hopeful, but I say average defense is very possible from Adam this year if he is motivated. If we do not get average defense then we can still flip Guz to 2B and play Desmond. The Chone Projection system is very pessimistic about Desmond (-.08 WAR), but other systems project him to be worth around 2 WAR with a full season at SS. All project Desmond as below average defensively. But I read in a magazine about prospects that scouts consider him average defensively. Who knows who is right. Most projection systems are calling Guz around average defensively this season at SS (Chone has him at zero) which means he is capable of above average at 2B. The range of the systems I have seen put him at -3 to zero which is solid enough at SS. Zim is Zim and may be the best in the game at 3B at everything ( is at least close). Dunn has some projection systems saying that his glove will be only well below average at 1B, but that would make it by far his best season, so, as many of you know, I am skeptical. Nonetheless, he was about 18.4 runs worse than Nick was last season which is a huge amount for a firsbasemen (nearly everyone is -6 to +7).
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by PhDBrian on Feb 5, 2010 5:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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by Ed Chigliak on Feb 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I just fell asleep there...
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by Ed Chigliak on Feb 5, 2010 6:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
iPhone has delete button and space bar too close to GO button for posting...
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by Ed Chigliak on Feb 5, 2010 6:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
If you get solid D from everyone but Dunn, it might work out...
If Guzman’s feet and shoulder were really the problem and if Kennedy’s struggles were an abberation, but if infield is as bad as last year’s and Dunn even plays to low expectations it could be a disaster…
Even though I’m not sure if I like some of the moves, I trust Rizzo far more than He Whose Name Shall Not Be Spoken…
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by Ed Chigliak on Feb 5, 2010 6:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Upside ...Downside
I like that Mike RIzzo appears to be setting up to allow the Nationals young talent to “season” in the minors a while longer. I believe that’s a good thing. So signing Adam Kennedy is a plus in that regard. At this time there is no rush.
On the other side of the coin…All the hoopla surrounding the potential to sign Orlando Hudon followed by the failure to do so fo lack of $$$ is a serious problem. Similarly the flop with regard to signing Aroldis Chapman. Why? Because it is essentiial that the Nats shake this image as cheapskates…. always wanting to pay two cents on the dollar stuff.. That will drive away potential free agents of the future and the team can no longer afford that image.
As far as production goes I don’t think Hudson was that much of an improvement. but from the aspect of what the team holds as important it was a PR disaster. He ended up signing with a contender for nearly double what the Nats offered …add to that it was a small market team! What message does that send to potential free agent signings? Not a good one. MIke … get a grip…You can’t undercut anybodys value with a 2 times over 100 loss team! You ain’t in the drivers seat!
by OldReddog on Feb 5, 2010 5:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If Rizzo was determined to sign someone to block Desmond.....
And Hudson was his choice by his abilities, then money shouldn’t have stood in the way. Guarantee the $5mil or overpay…….. I believe Hudson was sour on incentives because of getting benched last year in LA, and that should have been part of the negotiations.
However, if reports that Hudson wanted “twice as much” as some figure to play for the Nats, then I’m glad Rizzo passed. I hope I’m wrong on Kennedy, but history, judging from that list above, is not on the Nats’ side…
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by cat daddy3000 on Feb 5, 2010 8:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The one hopeful thing about Guzman this season...
He’s playing for his next contract. Let’s hope Guzman tears it up with hopes of earning a decent contract in 2011…as opposed to happily taking his lottery money and retiring to a beach somewhere in the DR.
by RoscoeNats on Feb 5, 2010 6:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
What you see from Guzman is what you get
and i’m concerned he’s still not going to be completely healthy but try to play anyway.
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Feb 5, 2010 7:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And Riggler is just the man to keep pencilling him in....
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by cat daddy3000 on Feb 5, 2010 8:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
NO!
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Feb 5, 2010 7:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you at the Caps game? I'm watching Kovalchuk's NJ debut...
For as long as I can stand to watch the Devils…
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by Ed Chigliak on Feb 5, 2010 7:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
of course i'm at Caps game
2-1 Caps midway thru two periods.
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Feb 5, 2010 8:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thought it was funny that Ladson said he was the absolute last resort...rather than paraphrasing:
It was on twitter:
“No chance for Livo unless the #Nats don’t have anybody else to sign.”
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by Ed Chigliak on Feb 5, 2010 7:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Martis is like a young Livan, just use him instead...or Balester...Detwiler....old J.D. Martin...
There are a lot of pitchers I’d rather see before Livan at this point…even that old Brave Mr. Smoltz, but again, not if he’s going to teach Strasburg that elbow-shredding splitter…I want that in his contract
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by Ed Chigliak on Feb 5, 2010 7:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I keep wondering about Martis.
Remember when he was the best pitcher for the Nats last year…for a while?
I’m intrigued by Chien-Ming Wang…but I wonder why the the Yankees aren’t re-signing him.
I think Smoltz is better as a closer now. Pedro only wants to play for a contender so that’s not an option for the Nats.
Washburn could be good or some days he could be a little too “interesting.” But there’s quite a history of that here in DC.
I’m still going to trust Rizzo!
by MissB on Feb 5, 2010 7:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why do I hear Marge Simpson hmmmgrowling under her breath?
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Mezza: ''Are we there yet?'' ...Roscoe: "In baseball hell? Yes we are."
by cat daddy3000 on Feb 5, 2010 8:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Which one of these should be an attainable goal in 2010?
Win NL East
Win 82 games
Lose 99 games or less.
by RoscoeNats on Feb 5, 2010 9:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This a trick question?
At least Rizzo is signing name brand inventory……to bad it’s not 2002….
(but then, we’d be in Montreal and finishing 2nd in the NL East…)
" I was just poking the universe to get things started..." -E. Chigliak, Winter 2009
Mezza: ''Are we there yet?'' ...Roscoe: "In baseball hell? Yes we are."
by cat daddy3000 on Feb 5, 2010 9:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Vladimiiiiiiirrrr!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiuDI7apDeQ&feature=player_embedded
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Mezza: ''Are we there yet?'' ...Roscoe: "In baseball hell? Yes we are."
by cat daddy3000 on Feb 5, 2010 11:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Is DC GM Mike Rizzo Done Building?
Done Building what? I won’t even grace that with my CYNICISM….. Better than this time last year heading into a dismal 103 losses?…..YES, i will give em that ……
by The Mamba on Feb 5, 2010 8:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Something positive!!!!
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by Ed Chigliak on Feb 5, 2010 9:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Rizzo not done!!!
Wiki: “Shawn Estes retired on June 19, 2009. In an interview several weeks later, Estes claimed that he has not retired, but that he is simply unwilling to play AAA baseball.”
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by cat daddy3000 on Feb 5, 2010 10:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If he makes the 40 man, he makes a nice paycheck. Otherwise, he'll just retire again. No big woop.
by RoscoeNats on Feb 5, 2010 10:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No, no, no... he's the final missing piece/starter Rizzo's been going on about wanting to add.
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by cat daddy3000 on Feb 5, 2010 11:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
a Livo kinda guy……..an eater…
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by cat daddy3000 on Feb 5, 2010 11:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Aaarrgh!
Sorry, flashback to when Estes was a Cub.
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by brook on Feb 5, 2010 11:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Rizzo's putting together a nice nostalgia All-Star team from the 90's...
and a little psych warfare on the fans of the teams they later played for…
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Mezza: ''Are we there yet?'' ...Roscoe: "In baseball hell? Yes we are."
by cat daddy3000 on Feb 5, 2010 11:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know I beat this drum to death but
I would really like to see aaron harang pitch here… If you look at his career, literally his only problem might be the hr ball. If you bring him here he gets to pitch in:
RFK- pitchers park
citi field- pitchers park
lankshark stadium- pitchers park
turner stadium- pitchers park
of course, citizens bank is a hitters haven… but how many times would he have to pitch there in reality? Just structure it so he faces the phillies at home… even so… it wouldnt kill him to have to pitch a game here or there in a hitters park, just not so often is what we are going for
by martins on Feb 6, 2010 4:21 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
The only problem with that is that you'd have to make one more trade with the Reds...
…and endure another round of Bowden only trades with the Reds talk…
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