Washington Nationals: Syracuse For Ian Desmond? Or A Utility Role?
Washington Nationals' manager Jim Riggleman has said all winter that he'd be alright with Ian Desmond starting at short in 2010. Saturday night that message changed a little. Following Thursday's signing of free agent second baseman Adam Kennedy, Desmond seemed destined to start the twenty-ten campaign in Triple-A Syracuse, but according to MLB.com's Bill Ladson, Mr. Riggleman believes, as he's quoted stating in a new article entitled, "Desmond may play utility role for Nats," that the 24-year-old '04 Expos' 3rd Round draft pick could become, "...an all-purpose utility man -- playing all three outfield positions, shortstop and second base," if Cristian Guzman is healthy enough following surgery on his right shoulder and persistent issues with his feet to come back and play short alongside Kennedy at second.
So what's better for Desmond? Playing short every day against Triple-A competition and coming up later in the season to officially replace Cristian Guzman, who I'm guessing won't be back in 2011, or does Desmond stay in DC and share infield duties while filling in in the OF whenever necessary? Desmond, of course, has the right attitude as he tells Mr. Ladson that he'll do, "Anything I can do to help the team win -- if that situation (playing a utility role) comes about -- I will be more than willing to do it." Just like Collin Balester and Craig Stammen both said earlier this winter that they'd be willing to pitch out of the bullpen if necessary, I'm sure any of these players will do anything they're asked if it means remaining in the majors. Is it best for Desmond's development? Mr. Ladson notes that he hasn't played the OF on a "regular basis" since high school...but he did play right field last September against the New York Mets when he was asked to...
I remember that game...
Reprinted from Sunday September 20th Postgame Report:
• Saturday September 19, 2009: 12:36 pm EST - RoscoeNats - Citing Washington Post writer Chico Harlan's "Lineups with a little surprise":
ROSCOEtheNATSfan: "From NJ, Dez in RF:
- Willie Harris - CF
- Cristian Guzman - SS
- Ryan Zimmerman- 3B
- Adam Dunn - 1B
- Josh Willingham - LF
- Pete Orr - 2B
- Ian Desmond - RF
- Josh Bard - C
- John "Cool Hand" Lannan - Eating 40 Eggs, (I mean SP)
– "...speechless..." - cat daddy3000
– "Desmond In What??? Riggles!!!!" - Ed Chigliak
– "I'd like to experiment with Riggles coaching third in Kansas City" - cat daddy3000.
– "Is there something wrong with Dukes?" - Ed Chigliak
– "Orr has played RF before, what gives?" - RoscoeNats
It's frustrating when you see how a game's going to be decided the moment you look at the starting lineup. That's not to say that I, or anyone else here at Federalbaseball.com knew that David Wright would double over Ian Desmond's head in right field in the seventh and then score the winning run when Jeff Francoeur followed with the second-straight two-bagger off DC lefty John Lannan, but our immediate reactions upon seeing the starters' names posted pretty much says it all...
• Why did Riggleman start Desmond in right?
..."RoscoeNats" noted that MASN Pregame Host Ray Knight didn't like the idea of Desmond in right, and, if you didn't guess, the "surprise" Washington Post writer Chico Harlan referred to in the title of his post, was the fact that Desmond would be starting in right, and immediately after putting up the lineup, Mr. Harlan wrote, "Check out that lineup; It's not a misprint." DC Manager Jim Riggleman explained the thinking behind starting Desmond, (who had never played the outfield professionally), in right field to Mr. Harlan in the article:
"Q: Why is Ian Desmond playing right field today?
"Well, a couple things. One, indirectly, it's trying to get Pete Orr in the ballgame. Tomorrow Maine is pitching; lefties have had a real hard time with him, so I'm trying to keep Pete a little bit sharp, play him today and Guzy today. So to keep Ian in there, it pretty much had to be right field today. I talked to Elijah some time ago about, he's pretty much going to be playing three out of four days with a day off. Today's the day off."
So they wanted to see Desmond get some at bats I guess, since he's not being considered as an outfielder as far as I know, but then why leave him out there late in a close game, (tied 2-2 in the 7th) and risk having a young kid make a costly error? Here's DC Manager Jim Riggleman's late game thinking according to Washington Post writer Chico Harlan in his postgame report entitled, "Mets 3, Nats 2":
"Had the Nationals taken the lead in the top of the seventh, Riggleman actually planned to switch Desmond to second base, placing Pete Orr on the bench and sending Elijah Dukes to right. But with the game tied, he wanted to keep Orr's left-handed bat in the lineup, so he stuck with Desmond in right."
I guess Riggleman's a real BIG fan of Pete Orr. So Pete Orr goes 0 for 4 with a K and 2 LOB, Desmond goes 0 for 4 and makes a game-changing mistake in a position he's NEVER PLAYED PROFESSIONALLY BEFORE and it directly results in the winning run crossing..."
• (ed. note - "I was angry. I'm going to go ahead and vote for Desmond playing shortstop on a full-time basis in Syracuse...I know you can't decide what Desmond can do defensively based upon one game's result, but if Desmond's the short-term shortstop of the future and Guzman's still under contract for a year, wouldn't you be better off developing Desmond's skills at short or second at least if you think Danny Espinosa's even close to the majors. I'd even go for Desmond just splitting time at short and second in an infield time-share, but the OF? Please no. What does that mean for Willie Harris? Isn't that his role in the outfield? Keep Desmond in the infield...")
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There is no reason at all for him to be in the outfield. I would like to see him beat out Guzman or Kennedy for a starting spot but that isnt going to happen because of how much money Guzman is getting. So start him in AAA and hope Guzman plays well enough to trade for prospects at the deadline then bring Desmond up and see if he can make an impression in the second half. Alberto Gozales would be the back up MI I quess right???
he has zeroooo bat.
Gonzalez's presence is the only reason I have for keeping Desmond in DC...
As i’ve said, Gonzalez had every chance to earn a role in the Nationals’ infield…and came up empty…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Feb 7, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
We need to keep all this in perspective
Desmond is a shortstop prospect. He’s not a bat prospect, or a glove prospect. He will be effective because he has the potential to be an above average shortstop. No on should take that away from him, it will only delude his value.
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I remember this game and this incredibly imbecilic experiment, as well......
After suffering through years of waiting for Ian to develop, and with no sure thing on the immediate horizon, he finally shows signs he might step in and they put forth this idiotic utility role concept…..
Kinda flushes what weak confidence I have been attempting to come to terms with regarding one Jim Riggleman….
" I was just poking the universe to get things started..." -E. Chigliak, Winter 2009
Mezza: ''Are we there yet?'' ...Roscoe: "In baseball hell? Yes we are."
by cat daddy3000 on Feb 7, 2010 7:05 PM EST up reply actions
fair point...
Im disappointed that they wont give him a chance due to an ageing hack who has an overinflated contract. I sound like Mamba everyday.
"I love, love, love John Lackey." -- Graysnail.
Sunk costs are sunk.
Sideline teh Guz and put Desi out there.
BOWDEN!!
"And everybody lived happily ever after. Except the Phillies and the Mets. The End." --Sasskuash
Friend of Dukes and Desmond #3
WE MUST KEEP PETE ORR'S AT-BAT MUSIC IN THE LINEUP!
Although we don’t necessarily need Orr, himself. Maybe Zimmy can use the song—I hear he doesn’t really care…
"And everybody lived happily ever after. Except the Phillies and the Mets. The End." --Sasskuash
Friend of Dukes and Desmond #3
Where is Pete Orr these days?
I’m going to miss Nick Johnson and his “my posse’s on broadway” song…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Feb 7, 2010 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
this middle infield debacle is becoming very amusing.....to some of us.....
guess those league leading 143 errors and 103 losses just didn’t light a big enough fire under the Gnats suits front office ****** to make a reasonable attempt to fix it …….
Hope you're not serious, Berndaddy.
I always thought Mamba’s over-the-top act was “amusing”? if that’s not the prevailing opinion, I can push the “button”…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Feb 8, 2010 1:45 AM EST up reply actions
whether or not you like the way mamba expresses him/her/itself
can you really say that it’s not a legit argument? What have they done, after all?
We live in America, Ed. In Hondurus where my Mom's from people would push the button.
We’re Americans we don’t do that. I love your blog I get over this.
I think it is asinine to block Desmond with Guzman.
It’s interesting, it was Riggs that said he was comfortable with Desmond at short. Then he changed his tune when it was revealed that there were people in the FO that didn’t think Desmond was ready.
This isn’t all Riggleman’s fault. He wants to keep Desmond with the big club and it is obvious that he has been overruled by the FO in favor of Bunion Boy.
This is a big mistake on Rizzo’s part. Let’s hope that Desmond is so good in ST that they will have to put him at short and we won’t see him in the outfield at all and Guzman can be the back-up.
Where is it written that when you have a player with such a big contract you have to play them even if they suck? Perhaps the strategy is to see if Guzman can actually still play short so they can move him at some point. I wouldn’t hold my breath for that, though.
IMHO, I think Desmond should start the season with the big club and I don’t understand why everyone is pissed at Riggs. It is Rizzo and others in the front office that are blocking Desmond with Guzman.
Patiently waiting for "next year" since 1971.
I concur.
This call is definitely coming from the front office.
I don’t mind if Desmond stars the season at Syracuse and improves his fielding. That gives Guzman a chance to play himself out of the lineup. Then Desmond comes in and shows us what’s he’s got. And we all live happily ever after….. Or something like that!
Paid the most plays the most?
It will be Guzman at SS even if Desmond lights it up in ST only because he is getting paid 8 mil doesnt matter that Desmond MIGHT be better. See KERNS starting over Willingham and Dukes last year for same reason.
Riggleman has to be supportive of ALL of his players
He said he was supportive of Desmond, because the belief was that Guzzie’s range had lessened and they were going to move him to 2nd. Now that they have Adam Kennedy it is unlikely that Guzman will move to 2nd and will likely play ss. However, Riggles doesn’t want to say anything that is negative about one of his players. So he is supportive of them all. Desmond as a utility fielder could be a cover. There is no guarantee that Guzman is healthy. Nor is there a guarantee that Desmond can hit big league pitching (plenty of kids have had great September call ups and then stunk it up… like Maxwell). I hope that the kids (Maxwell included) are able to have a great Spring training and earn spots, but we can’t count on that happening. I wouldn’t want Riggles to say that Desmond should be the ss and then he hits below the Mendoza line in spring training and Guzman looks great etc. We simply have no idea what is going to happen. Speculation is fine, but I don’t think we should get too upset about what the FO and Manager says… on the other hand what they do can be disheartening…
Other than Zim, Dunn, Lannan ... and maybe Morgan
Nobody on this team should be assured of their position or designated as the starter. Come to ST hungry and ready and earn that job.

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