Washington Nationals: Spring Training 2010: Bench Battles.
With Washington Nationals' Skipper Jim Riggleman still deciding how he'll use Ian Desmond in 2010, senior advisor to the DC GM Mike Rizzo, Davey Johnson, offered his own advice in MLB.com's Bill Ladson's article this weekend entitled, "Johnson shares his view on Desmond", where he was quoted stating that he didn't think a utility role was a good idea for the young infielder, "To do that for somebody that doesn't know the pitchers and the league, it's not a good thing. You don't want to have rookies in that role."
MLB.com's Mr. Ladson broke down the rest of the decisions Mr. Riggleman still has to make this Spring in a post on his blog All Nats All The Time entitled, "Nyjer wants to hit lefties; Trying to figure out bench", where he writes that, "There are 15 players vying for roles off the bench," with Willie Harris and Wil Nieves two of the fifteen who are, "all but locks for the bench," which leaves eleven players vying for the final four spots on the roster given that Mr. Riggleman decides to carry just 11 pitchers instead of twelve.
The list of players Mr. Riggleman has to choose from:
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• The list of players Mr. Riggleman has to choose from:
"Outfielders Roger Bernadina, Chris Duncan...Justin Maxwell, Jerry Owens and Willy Taveras, infielders Eric Bruntlett, Ian Desmond, Alberto Gonzalez, Mike Morse, Pete Orr and Josh Whitesell and catchers Jamie Burke (and) Devin Ivany..."
...Willie Harris is expected to play the outfield in 2010, after helping out in the infield occassionally the last few seasons, and Wil Nieves will split time behind the plate with Pudge until Jesus Flores is healthy, so Mr. Riggleman has to select 4 players, (1 OF, 3 IF? 2 IF, 2 OF?) to play behind Ryan Zimmerman, Cristian Guzman, Adam Kennedy and Adam Dunn around the infield, and Josh Willingham, Nyjer Morgan and Elijah Dukes left to right in the outfield, who are you picking? Can Roger Bernandina and Justin Maxwell separate themselves from Duncan, Owens and Taveras, who were brought in to compete with the Nationals' in-house candidates? Do you go with an all-purpose player like Eric Bruntlett or Pete Orr, who can back up at any position? Mike Morse who can play first and third, or Alberto Gonzalez and Ian Desmond, who can fill in for the middle infielders? Do you take Roger Bernadina or Justin Maxwell along with Willie Harris, providing talented defensive replacements for any of the outfielders? Or go for the speed off the bench Willy Taveras could provide? Do Jerry Owens and Josh Whitesell stand a chance? It's just about a month away from Opening Day...and there a lot of games to play before Mr. Riggleman decides...
Who's on the bench when the season starts?
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Harris, Duncan, Bruntlett, Morse and Nieves
sorry all fans of J-Max and Bernie. IMO, the Nats are going to go with utility in their backups, and these guys (save for Nieves) can all go infield/outfield.
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Mar 1, 2010 1:23 PM EST reply actions
Kinda read my mind there, Dave....
Was looking at the options and saying, well they obviously brought Bruntlett in for a reason…Morse is good for 1st/3rd…
And I admit my irrational support of Bernadina is based on short glimpses, potential for a late-Morgan-esque development, and the word from some with the Nats that say Bernadina is liked, as opposed to any tangible proof he can get the job done…
Maxwell’s shown me very little but some power…
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by Patrick Reddington on Mar 1, 2010 1:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
What is the prevailing thought on Maxwell among Nats fans?
I grabbed him in the minor league portion of a fantasy league a few years back and have held onto him hoping to see his power/speed/OBP combo get him a chance at some point. Do you guys consider him to be a legit option in the OF for the Nats at some point in the next year or two? More of a bench guy/4th OF?
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first, he's 26
so he’s almost in his prime. he’s not a kid anymore.
next, he can’t hit. in 129 major league plate appearances, he’s hit .252/.333.461with 6 homers and 6 steals.
in the minors, in over 1500 plate appearances, he’s .257/.351/.442. he had a great year in 2007 repeating A ball, but injuries and lack of consistent contact have doomed him since.
i have a differing opinion from most that linger aroundhere, but i don’t think he’s a major league player.
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by Dave at Nats News Network on Mar 1, 2010 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
I will respectfully disagree there
The secondary skills are pretty solid, ISO of over .200 and solid walk rates. Defensively his numbers in CF(by TotalZone in the minors anyway, UZR numbers from 2009 are too small a sample) aren’t too good but he should be average or a little above in a corner. I don’t see him as a star or anything, but he looks like he could be a possible 2 win player, which is great but wouldn’t be bad during his pre-arbitration years.
I’d just really like to see him get a shot soon, because as you mention he is 26.
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I linger here...
but I agree. J-Max isnt going to be a regular.
"I love, love, love John Lackey." -- Graysnail.
Linger sounds illicit...
Is “hang out” too informal…? “Frequent” the site?
I want J-Max and Bernadina to be 25-man-worthy…why doesn’t that make it happen?
I boldly predict Bernadina makes it as the backup OF…There I said it.
A serious question: How many games at a position do you need before stats like UZR become a valuable tool of measurement? How long before you can accurately assess Dunn as a 1B?
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by Patrick Reddington on Mar 1, 2010 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
Hang out is fine... frequent sounds a little risk-ey
I think Bernie would be fine as a 4th OF for his defense and because he could pinch run. Ive always thought that on the bench, you need a nice spread of players to give position guys a day off, pinch hit and run, and defensive replacements. Bernie can do some of those jobs- Maxwell as well.
No idea about UZR but I think that Dunn will be better defensively this year at 1B than last year (there, I said it).
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Agreed. "Frequent" is seedy, as in sordid, or disreputable...and that in no way describes our activities...
My reasoning on Bernadina is that he does everything Taveras does, but does it better…
I’m expressing my opinion on the Dunn situation right now…post shortly…
I claim he recorded the worst UZR/150 ever in left field. Just for laffs…
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by Patrick Reddington on Mar 1, 2010 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
But Bernie hasnt done it at a ML level.
Taveras has. Experience has to count for old man Rizzo.
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All I keep hearing on the ole twitter...
And in print…
Is that the Nationals like Bernadina and the improvements he’s made.
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by Patrick Reddington on Mar 1, 2010 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
It leaves
A decent, not spectacular, but decent core of players in the minors ready to fill in. No matter who makes the big club, there will be capable players just a phone call away at AAA.
Why not us? Why not now?
which wasnt there last year...
I think there is heaps more depth than last year who can fill in should injuries/trades occur.
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I still want to know who's backing up 1st and 3rd? Morse? They have Duncan playing 1st in half or split-squad on Thursay...
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by Patrick Reddington on Mar 1, 2010 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
OR...
“They have Duncan playing first in half of the split-squad game on Thursday.”
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by Patrick Reddington on Mar 1, 2010 9:02 PM EST up reply actions
Got to be Morse backing up
Has Duncan played 1st before?
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40 game in the majors...
Don’t quote me on that I did the math quickly….uh…51, missed one year.
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by Patrick Reddington on Mar 1, 2010 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
Can Orr play 1B at all?
I don’t like the team’s options at backup 1B, but I like Orr as a Utility player. He’s played a bunch of games at 2B and a decent chunk at 3B also. I thought he played well at the end of last season, and perhaps he can play some first base this spring. Does the team really need to spend a bench spot on a back up guy like Morse or Whitesell?
Orr can play 2B, 3B, and LF we know for sure. I doubt he’ll play much at first (if at all), but I still like Orr to make the team because he reminds me of FP Santangelo (FP had a better bat though). The Nats need some guys that get dirty on the bench and Orr can fit that role. He won’t be that great offensively, but he showed signs of streakiness when called up last year.

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