Washington Nationals: Stephen Strasburg, What 'They're' Saying...
• ESPN.com's Jayson Stark was on the Mike and Mike Show with Mike Greenberg and Mike Golic this morning on 1050 ESPN Radio in New York to talk about his trip to Viera, Florida's Space Coast Stadium to see the debut of DC right-hander Stephen Strasburg, the Nationals' '09 no.1 overall pick who made his first Spring Training start in the Nationals' spring home yesterday against the Detroit Tigers. Mr. Stark tells the two Mikes he entered the ballpark a skeptic, "When you hear all the talk, about a guy like Stephen Strasburg, you hear people call him the greatest pitching prospect ever, what's your first instinct? To think, 'We're definitely over-selling this guy, he can't possibly be as good as people think he is, right?' That's how I walked into the park, it's not how I walked out of the park after watching that..." The "that" Mr. Stark refers to was Strasburg's two-inning, 27-pitch performance against Detroit, which saw the 21-year-old right-hander give up 2 hits and record 2 K's:
Jayson Stark: "After watching a 96-98 fastball, throwing a fastball right by Miguel Cabrera when he's looking fastball. After watching a change up at 90-91. After watching him throw a 3-2 breaking ball for an outing-ending strikeout. After watching the delivery. After watching how he conducted himself, and after talking to people about him. Running that outing past the scouts who were there, they used words like 'special', 'real deal'. You know, he pitched against Rick Porcello, right? Another one of the best young pitchers in baseball. I had a scout tell me he made Rick Porcello look like he was playing catch with his sister. And then I talked the hitters, and Miguel Cabrera said, 'When he throws the ball it's like an explosion.' How bout that line? And then we asked Miguel Cabrera, 'Do you think his future can possibly be as bright as people say it is,?' and here's what he said, 'Oh...my...God.' So, what do you want me to tell you, it was great."
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• 0-8 In Games That Don't Count.
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Asked by one of the Mikes (just kidding it was Mike Greenberg, I think)..if either Strasburg, the best pitching prospect, or Atlanta Braves' outfielder Jason Heyward, the best fielding prospect, will be on their respective team's Opening Day rosters, Mr. Stark responds that Heyward will make the Braves', but the difference between the two, as he sees it, is that, "The Nationals don't want Stephen Strasburg to make their team,":
"Jayson Stark: He's never thrown a pitch in the minor leagues, and they're also faced with this worry, you don't want a guy to be the face of your franchise who's never actually pitched for your franchise. And they're trying to tone it down, the problem is, this spring, do you know what the batting average is against all the pitchers on their team not named Stephen Strasburg? How bout .396? And then this guy goes out there and blows through the middle of the Tigers' real batting order. If he keeps throwing up zeroes, what are they gonna do? What are they gonna say? I mean Jim Riggleman said, 'We're not going to announce that he's going to the minor leagues cause he might make us eat those words.'"
• More On Strasburg:
Minor League Ball.com's John Sickels takes a look at Stephen Strasburg and another pitcher who was also almost part of the Nationals' future rotation in an article entitled, "Chapman and Strasburg: What is to be Done?", wherein Mr Sickels says that he sees no reason to rush Strasburg to the majors:
"The Nationals aren't going to win this year even if Strasburg makes 32 starts and throws 200 innings. I'd start him off at Double-A Harrisburg, with the same 10-starts-before-promotion philosophy I have with Chapman. Even Tom Seaver and Roger Clemens spent time in the minors, and it can't possibly hurt Strasburg to do the same. It can only help him."
MLB.com's Bill Ladson spoke to DC GM Mike Rizzo this afternoon for an article entitled, "Rizzo not changing plans for Strasburg", in which Mr. Ladson noted Mr. Rizzo's well-established pattern of, "...not rushing players to the big leagues," and quoted the DC GM stating, "'Regardless of what he did [Tuesday] and what he does in the future during Spring Training, it's not going to change my plans." What Mr. Rizzo's plans are, exactly, he neglected to say...
• ? For the DC Faithful...How many innings will Strasburg pitch in 2010? He threw 109.0 at San Diego State last season...I was told the rule of thumb would be to add 50.0 or so to that total in his first year in the pros? Just asking because I was discussing a possible ten-start trip through the system, as has been rumored for months, and even if he's held to 5-6 IP per start, or 100 pitches, whatever, by June he'll already have thrown 50+ innings, which would leave just 150.0 IP or less for the Nationals to use before he'd be shut down for the season?
• 0-8 In Games That Don't Count.
Willie Harris was 2 for 4 in a start at second, with a double, a triple and a run batted in. Justin Maxwell hit an eighth- inning HR, his first of the Spring, off the Cards' Mitchell Boggs. Adam Dunn was 2 for 3 with two trademark singles, and the Nationals as a team combined for 9 hits and 4 runs scored. The Nationals' pitchers, however, at least the first three of them, allowed 2 runs each. Starter Garrett Mock gave up 2 ER on 1 HR and 5 hits overall in 3.0 IP, while J.D. Martin surrendered 2 ER on 3 hits in 2.0 innings and Matt Capps gave up 2 runs and 2 hits in 1.0 IP, leaving Capps with 6 hits and 5 ER allowed in 3.0 IP this Spring.
Final score: 6-4 Cardinals over Nationals.
Next Game: Thursday 1:05 pm EST. Nationals vs Astros with Nats' lefty John Lannan on the mound against the 'Stros' Roy Oswalt.
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“The Nationals aren’t going to win this year even if Strasburg makes 32 starts and throws 200 innings. I’d start him off at Double-A Harrisburg, with the same 10-starts-before-promotion philosophy I have with Chapman. Even Tom Seaver and Roger Clemens spent time in the minors, and it can’t possibly hurt Strasburg to do the same. It can only help him.”
Requoted for emphasis.
"I love, love, love John Lackey." -- Graysnail.
I'll be perfectly happy to wait until June, cause come September, if a lot of things work out...
The rotation’s going to a lot of fun to watch…
Lannan
Marquis
Strasburg
(Zimmermann? Maybe next year)
Wang/Stammen/Balester/Martin/Martis/Whoever really)
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Mar 11, 2010 7:58 AM EST up reply actions
that's been the mantra around here for a couple years now.
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by Dave at District Sports Page on Mar 11, 2010 8:15 AM EST up reply actions
Great, then the world ends in 2012, like in the movie, or like the Mayans said, whatever...
And then we only get 2 seasons to enjoy a decent team…figures.
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Mar 11, 2010 8:32 AM EST up reply actions
LOL
Then maybe we can close out the 2012 season as the final World Series champion… ever.
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The Washington Nationals, the team of the 2010s!
by Potomac Fan on Mar 11, 2010 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
I hear ya, but
Strasburg will probably be shut down by September. Hopefully we’ll see pieces of next year’s roatation throughout the year, but maybe not all at once. And due to unforeseen injuries, maybe not even next year. But they’ll get to choose from Strasburg, Lannan, Marquis, Zimmermann, Wang, Martin, Detwiler, etc. And they could always add another free agent. I look at them as having a pool of great-decent starts next year that they can work with, rather than a set rotation.
I do predict that Strasburg will be the opening day starter in 2011 and that tickets will be hard to get. That’s another good reason to let Lannan have it again this year, I think, because of all he’s done for us the last couple years. Next year, he’ll no longer be the top man in the rotation, and I’m sure he knows that.
Lannan as a 3-4 is probably right, he'll be a good 3-4 but that's where he'd be on most teams...
…that have serious 1-2 starters like Strasburg and Zimmermann will hopefully be next season…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Mar 11, 2010 8:34 AM EST up reply actions
i dont think the Nats want SS approaching 200 innings this year
i think they’d rather see it around 180 give or take. i think that’s part of why Rizzo is willing to be cautious out of the box. and if being cautious jives with delaying his arb clock, so much the better. delaying his MLB debut by 8 weeks or so does no one — except the fans in DC that want to see him so bad — any harm. even if he is their best pitcher already.
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by Dave at District Sports Page on Mar 11, 2010 8:17 AM EST reply actions
So short outings in the minors? Shut him down early? Both...it will be interesting to see how Stras is handled as much as how he does...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Mar 11, 2010 8:35 AM EST up reply actions
And I'd like Strasburg well short of 200.0 IP....Please, 170-180 maybe...after 109.0+ whatever he's thrown since the SDSU season ended last year already on his arm...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Mar 11, 2010 8:37 AM EST up reply actions
yes. short starts. shut him down early.
there will be no pennant chase for the Nats to ruin him like Riggs did with Wood. oops, are we not supposed to talk about that anymore?
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by Dave at District Sports Page on Mar 11, 2010 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
He's sorry, Dave. He's sorry...
Was nice of Wood to refute Riggleman’s comments since Riggs does clearly carry some guilt over that situation.
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Mar 11, 2010 11:39 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
you know everybody is saying the same thing in cincy about Dusty baker and Chapman
Aim for the head baby Jesus
The old school managers are taskmasters...
I’ll be real interested in seeing if Chapman makes the Reds’ Opening Day roster…How’s it looking for him? Good chance? None at all?
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
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by Patrick Reddington on Mar 11, 2010 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
Any word on Strasburg's next start?
I assume it’ll be Sunday afternoon, as Ladson said, but Kilgore thought it’d be Monday night, which will be on MASN. Monday would also be against Jason Heyward and Atlanta.
But if he pitches on Sunday, that does keep him on track for the Potomac opener. Will MASN or someone else pick up the game if he pitches Sunday? Looks like it’s just on away radio right now.
In case you're not following MLB.com's Bill Ladson on Twitter:
So far this morning, Joel Peralta and Derek Norris have been sent to minor league camp..
And Shawn Estes was unconditionally released…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
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by Patrick Reddington on Mar 11, 2010 9:06 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Back to retirement for Estes?
Good bye Joel Peralta. I like it when bodies start dropping and the team takes form. Surely Eddie Guardado can’t be far behind.
Why not us? Why not now?
Guardado's gone...
Here’s the list:
@NatsTownNews: “Victor Garate, Logan Kensing, Derek Norris, Jerry Owens, Joel Peralta and Ryan Speier were reassigned to minor league camp this morning.”
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
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by Patrick Reddington on Mar 11, 2010 9:27 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
And these:
@NatsTownNews: The Nationals today released LHP Eddie Guardado and LHP Shawn Estes.
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by Patrick Reddington on Mar 11, 2010 9:30 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
None of them surprise me
I thought Owens would get a longer look, 3-4, 2 SB in the spring. I guess that bodes well for Bernadina. Maybe because they got Tavares cheap, he sticks around the big club.
Why not us? Why not now?
i don't think Tavares or Bernie make this team
i think the backup OFs are going to be Harris and Maxwell or Duncan.
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by Dave at District Sports Page on Mar 11, 2010 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
Duncan really?
I think his only shot, is if he shows a lot of power in spring.
Why not us? Why not now?
i think it's Maxwell's spot to lose
but if Duncan can get it going they might take the veteran with some track record of MLB success.
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by Dave at District Sports Page on Mar 11, 2010 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
Did Guardado take it as a joke.
Like when the Rangers “traded” him to the Nats a few years back.
Why not us? Why not now?
The fact that he can't make a team he dreaded being traded to....
Pleases me to no end…
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