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Washington Nationals: Mr. Lerner vs Stephen Strasburg, Pick One?

Is the "Teh Lerners are teh cheep" era over yet? After the Washington Nationals outbid (overbid?) the rest of the league to acquire Adam Dunn (2yr/$20) last winter, only after their 8-year/$160-$180 million dollar offer (depending on the source) to Mark Teixeira was effectively rejected when he opted to sign with the Yankees? After the Nationals aggressively pursued and signed free agent pitchers Jason Marquis (2yr/$15) and Matt Capps (1yr/$3.5+) and fell just short of reaching Aroldis Chapman's asking price with what was reportedly a 5-year/$25M dollar offer...and DC GM Mike Rizzo said it was his decision to end the team's pursuit of the Cuban left-hander, not the owners', as Washington Post writer Thomas Boswell quoted Mr. Rizzo stating in a January 11th 2010 Nationals Journal article entitled, "Nats were 'in it to the end' with Chapman [Updated]":

"According to Rizzo, the front office -- not the Lerners -- drew the line on how much Washington was willing to offer. 'At a certain price point, the risk-reward wasn't worth it,' Rizzo said. 'We went up to a price point I was comfortable with, and at the end of the day we fell a bit short.'"

The Nationals also inked two 1st Round picks in the '09 First-Year Player Draft, signing the no.1 overall selection, former SDSU Aztec starter Stephen Strasburg to a record-setting 4-year/$15.1M dollar deal within minutes of the August 18th signing deadline for this year's picks, and selecting and signing Stanford Cardinal closer Drew Storen with the 10th overall pick, quickly agreeing on a $1.6 million dollar signing bonus, and using the compensation pick they received after failing to sign RHP Aaron Crow, the '08 Draft's 9th overall pick, to add a major-league ready closer to save games for their future ace. Oh, and they also agreed on a 5-year/$45 million dollar deal with the Face of the Franchise©, Ryan Zimmerman, who says he wants to be here when they finally turn things around...

I only bring this up now (because I'm bored with no game today and all afternoon to read about the Nationals) because I read two articles today that talked about the Nationals' owners...

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I only bring this up now (because I'm bored with no game today and all afternoon to read about the Nationals) because I read two articles today that talked about the Nationals' owners, one an article at SB Nation.com by Andrew Sharp which asked the question, "What's More Valuable: Owner's Money? Or Money Player?", and the second an article by staff reporter Jeff Clabaugh at the Washington Business Journal's site entitled, "Forbes worldwide billionaire list includes 14 from Washington area", which announced that the 316th person on their billionaire list was, "Theodore Lerner, of Lerner Enterprises. The commercial real estate tycoon, and D.C. resident, (who) has an estimated net worth of $3 billion," and is also the managing principal owner of the Washington Nationals.

The SB Nation's Mr. Sharp's article starts close to home for me with a look my hapless (7-56) hometown New Jersey Nets who are about to be bought by #40 on Forbes' billionaire list, the richest man in Russia Mikhail Prokhorov, and are also going to receive the no.1 pick in next year's draft as a result of their on-court struggles, and Mr. Sharp asks, what if they could have one or the other, a number-one-overall-type pick, a sure thing, or a billionaire owner who's willing, "...to shut up and sign the checks," for whatever a team needs to field a winner. "What if the Nets fans had to choose?" Mr. Sharp asks, and what if fans of teams in other sports had to make the decision?

"In baseball," Mr. Sharp writes, using Stephen Strasburg and the Nationals as an example, the answer is easy,"...having a billionaire owner is worth more than a hundred top draft picks, because at the end of the day, that owner can simply buy those draft picks, or let them mature in someone else's farm system, and then buy them...The best talent goes to the highest bidder, period." I agree with Mr. Sharp, it's hard to even argue that in baseball a free-spending owner isn't far more valuable than any one pick or player, and one only has to look at the Yankees' owners, the Steinbrenner family with their free-spending ways, or on the other hand the Texas Rangers when they employed the current Yankees' third baseman or the San Francisco Giants with their old left fielder to see what one good player alone is worth in the Majors. (ed. note - "Just have to mention that the idea of MLB teams letting players, "mature in someone else's farm system" and then signing them once they've developed is sure to provide any Montreal Expos' fan with a moment of remembered pain, but it's not like that in the nation's capital.")

The Nationals are building through the draft, and though they've only recently turned to free agents, and have yet to make a move into the international market (does Chien-Ming Wang count, really?), DC GM Mike Rizzo has made clear that what he and team President Stan Kasten want is made available to them by the team's ownership. Signing top draft picks and supplementing their core players with free agents where appropriate has always been the Nationals' plan, well, since late '06-ish. Clearly in baseball, having an owner who's willing to build a team this way is more valuable than any one player, but what about other sports? Check out the rest of SB Nation.com's Mr. Sharp's article. And since there's no new Nationals news to read tonight, and Strasburg's next start isn't until Sunday, check out what Caps' owner Ted Leonsis had to say about the SB Nation.com writer's opinion of whether an owner or a star is more valuable in the NHL. The Capitals, as Mr. Sharp points out, have both the pick and the owner in Alex Ovechkin and Mr. Leonsis, do the Nationals have the same in Ryan Zimmerman, Stephen Strasburg and Mr. Lerner?

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I choose draft picks

the thing that is missing from these articles is the fact that ‘free spending’ doesnt always work in baseball.

Look at the Mets??! I dont think that’s the model we should be aiming for here.

"I love, love, love John Lackey." -- Graysnail.

by Mezza on Mar 11, 2010 10:07 PM EST reply actions  

The money has to be spent wisely... Even the Yankees apparently only get it right every so often...

But the money keeps them at or near the top.

The Mets….ugh…

I’m not sure about the analysis of the Nats/Strasburg talk in the article either. The Nationals HAD to sign Strasburg, and Stras didn’t want to sit out a whole year, the rest, including what’s mentioned in the article was just posturing…

Just thought it was interesting for a discussion…

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Mar 11, 2010 10:28 PM EST up reply actions  

its a good discussion dude. I just think that people (see below) think its easy to spend more and get the results. It doesnt work that way in baseball (otherwise the Mets and Rangers would be winning much more than they are).

I think the Yanks are not the model. They spent a bomb but they also went without a WS title for 4(?) or so seasons…and they also have the revenues to back up that kind of spending. The Nats dont.

Worse case scenario is that the Nats overspend…the team enters receivership and a fire sale occurs. Just because they are billionaries doesnt mean they’ll pump their every last cent into the team.

I like the fact they building a solid base in the minors before moving up. Its smart – although initially painful. But its strategic.

"I love, love, love John Lackey." -- Graysnail.

by Mezza on Mar 11, 2010 10:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I tried, but couldn't make it through the list of 400...wonder if any other owners are on Forbes' list...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Mar 11, 2010 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Last year, the Lerner's were in the top 100 richest Americans

And they were the richest owenrs in American professional sports, as I recall

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2009/54/rich-list-09_The-400-Richest-Americans_Rank_5.html

It’s a pity about Chapman, but we don’t know if $30 million would have gotten him. Maybe the Reds would have gone up to $40 million? It’s a big risk, especially since it was said he wasn’t as polished as Strasburg.

The next big test for the Lerners will be Bryce Harper. He seems to be separating himself from the field as the clear #1. Being so young, he’ll have a fair amount of leverage, I think. But the Nats gotta draft him and then make an 8-digit offer and hope he can’t say no to that kind of money.

The huge test will be resigning their superstars. They did a good job on Zimmerman, but they got lucky to sign him right before a break-out year.

by cassander on Mar 12, 2010 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Johnny MAC said it best: "YOU CAN'T BE SERIOUS"

so far, in the NL EAST ….The Lerners have spent “chump change” for player payroll….

Team 2008 payroll 2009 payroll
Mets $137,793,376 $149,373,987
Phillies $98,269,880 $113,004,046
Braves $102,365,683 $96,726,166
Nats $54,961,000 $60,328,000
Marlins $21,811,500 $36,834,000

Not having the superb talent finders of a Marlins organization to beat the system last year………the Lerners have gotten what they have paid for…….200+ losses..
NO O- dog…NO Cuban lefty phenom to be excited about……NO wins in 2010…..and last but not least…….Jim Riggleman…… on deck- the Yankees..

by TheMamba on Mar 11, 2010 10:21 PM EST reply actions  

I love it when u make my arguments for me...

The Mets were 2nd in MLB for payroll. They came 4th.
Atlanta were 12th in payroll, they came 2nd.

"I love, love, love John Lackey." -- Graysnail.

by Mezza on Mar 11, 2010 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

All but one team in the '09 playoffs came from the top two-thirds (1-20) of the team salary list...

The Mets are just awful…i mean plagued by injuries (snickers)…

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Mar 11, 2010 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

It doesnt mean they are the most efficient in terms of spending.

I posted this a fanshot some months ago…i think it does a good job of exploring the argument.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/tom_verducci/01/19/verducci.efficiency/index.html

"I love, love, love John Lackey." -- Graysnail.

by Mezza on Mar 11, 2010 10:37 PM EST up reply actions  

The best run are the:

Marlins, Cardinals, Twins, Athletics, and Rays. I’d agree with that.

Worst run are:
Mariners, Dodgers, Cubs, Orioles, and Mets.

Spend a lot and get very little.

"I love, love, love John Lackey." -- Graysnail.

by Mezza on Mar 11, 2010 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

$36 mil? How do the Marlins do it...Wonder how much they'll spend once they have a new park...

$40M?

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Mar 11, 2010 10:36 PM EST up reply actions  

$36.1M

All I need is this thermos

by natsstats on Mar 11, 2010 11:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I'll just point out that I phrased it as a question...see first sentence...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Mar 11, 2010 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

The Nats do have a Cuban righty to be excited about

“Pay to play” in the East.

Mezza says it best. Mets 2nd highest payroll, finished 4th.

Why not us? Why not now?

by Expos4 on Mar 11, 2010 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Mezza - I don't think anyone expects the Lerners to go bankrupt

Unfortunately they are pocketing our cash right now. I expect them to spend our money on product. The Nats shouldn’t be another revenue source for “teh Lerners”.

All I need is this thermos

by natsstats on Mar 11, 2010 11:08 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I guess i meant that they wouldnt go bankrupt – but they could forseeably sell a team that wasnt generating any kind of financial return. I guess im surprised that people expect baseball teams to run at an enormous loss. You wouldnt run a bussiness like that… i dont expect someone else to either.

"I love, love, love John Lackey." -- Graysnail.

by Mezza on Mar 11, 2010 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

You guys are using the Mets as evidence that the amount of money doesn't matter.

Thats crazy. The Mets may have spent the second most money, behind the Yankees, but looking at an area of time, you cannot say that the teams that spend the most money dont have the most wins.
How often are the Yankees, Red Sox or the L.A teams not in the playoffs? It’s plain wrong.

I think we will all understand how unfair it is when in 5 years the Yankees sign Zimmerman and Strasburg. That’ll be the day I go emo.
If we draft Bryce Harper, you can put him on that list as well.

Orakpo!!! Russel Okung next year!

by Horcasitas4 on Mar 12, 2010 12:33 PM EST reply actions  

You know Harper already thinks about becoming a Yankee in six years...

Already has his number picked out from the few left available…

Draft a pitcher, Rizzo. (just kidding, sort of…)

No one in the bottom third of the league in terms of team payroll made the playoffs last year, spend, spend, spend…just spend wisely on organizational depth and pitching, pitching, pitching…

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Mar 12, 2010 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

How long is the TV revenue sharing deal with Angelos in place? Until it is over we are a medium market team with a really rich owner, once we are getting most of our own TV revenue the Nats will be a legitimate large market team

Aim for the head baby Jesus

by Doncosmic on Mar 12, 2010 5:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

As much as I want to see Harper in a Nats jersey, he wont be here for long. I really think Anthony Ranaudo will be a good pitcher. I hope we draft him.
…Although a part of me still wants Harper…

Orakpo!!! Russel Okung next year!

by Horcasitas4 on Mar 12, 2010 5:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Ranaudo's missed 3 straight starts with elbow issues...can you possibly have that happen...

…in your draft year and still go no. 1 overall? Could be a tough break for the kid, and it will leave Rizzo with even less options at number one…

Deck McGuire and Bryce Harper are in action tonight, I’ll check in on them when the scores go up…

NFA Brian took a look at a few options recently too…

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Mar 12, 2010 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Zimmerman will never wear pinstripes.

Unless they move the team back to Montreal.

Why not us? Why not now?

by Expos4 on Mar 12, 2010 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Dude!

This article not only says NOTHING, but it’s as if someone with ADD wrote it while on a binge. What are they paying you for writing this garbage?

by The Shilverback on Mar 12, 2010 3:50 PM EST reply actions  

Thanks for your input, I like your avatar and your simile.

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Mar 12, 2010 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

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