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Elijah "Super" Dukes Released by Nationals

Well.....who saw this coming?

 

The Nationals released outfielder Elijah Dukes, according to a team press release.  According to a tweet from MASN's Ben Goessling, the move had nothing to do with off-the-field issues.  This is very surprising news, as Dukes projected as the team's starting right fielder and could've been traded or sent to the minors.  Dukes' time with Washington was marked by injuries and a disappointing '09 season.

Dukes, 25, hit .250/.337/.393 in 416 plate appearances last year, playing a below-average right and center field (according to UZR).  He also played 22 games in the minors.  Dukes has avoided off-the-field problems since Jim Bowden acquired him from the Rays in December of '07, with a June '08 dugout confrontation with Manny Acta probably his worst offense.  Just a couple of weeks ago Goessling noted that the Nationals had "taken the reins off Dukes -- letting his personal adviser go and allowing him more freedom with the media." 


Maybe J-Max will take over? Bernadina? Please tell me they're not considering Dye.....

 

He must've done something really bad, blown up or something; there had to have been some sort of off-field encounter. I mean, they had an option on him still, and they could've kept him as a reserve if it was due to his performance. Huh. Dukes to Pittsburgh?

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Dukes to PA

I bet Im hoping for it, the Nats should have sent him down or something. Well see in a couple of hours when the truth come out

by Skipper22 on Mar 17, 2010 11:01 AM EDT reply actions  

dumb

indefensible and dumb

by martins on Mar 17, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I concur.

Morse in right?

by StrasburgSavior on Mar 17, 2010 2:05 PM EDT reply actions  

http://masnsports.com/2010/03/nationals-release-elijah-dukes.html
I don’t believe a word of this ^^ My guess is that he was approached about being sent down to AAA and exploded. I can’t think of anything else.

by StrasburgSavior on Mar 17, 2010 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  

JMax has one of the best OF gloves in baseball

He could be a below average hitter and still help this team.

Dukes did nothing well except hit bombs in batting practice.

I like the move. I feel bad for Dukes because I wanted him to be a star, but I like the move. We will win more because of him being gone.

"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James

by PhDBrian on Mar 17, 2010 4:46 PM EDT reply actions  

+1/2

My only pause is Maxwell’s arm. He definitely improves our range at RF (and overall competence – how many times did Dukes “lose a fly ball in the lights”), but he’ll only be an improvement if his arm is strong enough for the position.

They could theoretically try out some whacky OF rotation at the corners with some combination of Hammer/Harris/Maxwell/Bernadina/Morse.

by nowayback on Mar 17, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well we could easily move Hammer back to right

then put Jmax and Harris in LF.

"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James

by PhDBrian on Mar 17, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

A Platoon of Jmax and Harris will likely outperform

what Dukes would have given us this year. Both have exceptional gloves. Harris on bases .360-.370 vs rhp and Jmax hits LHP fine.

Dukes was terrible defensively, on the basepaths, and in the club house. Sure he hit 500 foot bombs regularly in batting practice, but not much in games. He does walk aolot, but he also struck out in bunches. I have long term hopes for Dukes to be a very good player, but they are only hopes and dreams. He is useless against breaking balls. Harris and JMax will win more for this team this season for sure and personally I want Jmax and Harris to play everyday.

"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James

by PhDBrian on Mar 17, 2010 5:21 PM EDT reply actions  

okay he had a bad year this year

his BABIP slipped 40 points, and his HR/Fb rate dropped about 6 percent.

Cliffnotes: his 09 was more than likely an abberation year.

 Do his 08 numbers and 13% walk rate mean nothing? The guy had a 127 OPS+ in 08 You dont just throw away a 25 year old guy who has shown that kind of potential for a guy in maxwell who has 125 major league PA, who knows what he’ll do? They never gave dukes 500 PA in a season, why wouldnt they do that?

Aditionally, i’m not sure how you can make a judgment like “Jmax has an exceptional glove” If you blinked you would have missed his time in the major leagues. How can you judge anything he did.

by martins on Mar 17, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

News...

Ladson says the team is checking out Dye: http://therocket.mlblogs.com/archives/2010/03/nats_release_dukes_may_have_in.html

However Kilgore says otherwise:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/nationalsjournal/2010/03/elijah_dukes_released.html

RZO did say that they will look outside the organization, however.

by StrasburgSavior on Mar 17, 2010 5:56 PM EDT reply actions  

From Nats Insider (Zuckerman): “(Rizzo) added that while he’ll always look at outside options, he’s content to move forward with his in-house options in right field. Said Jermaine Dye’s name has not come up in any substantive discussions.”

by StrasburgSavior on Mar 17, 2010 6:01 PM EDT reply actions  

The dreaded "in-house" options strike again...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Mar 17, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

A Platoon of Jmax and Harris will likely outperform what Dukes would have given us this year.

Insane statement

Jmax is too new to make any judgment about, and Willie harris has a career 80 OPS+. 80. What is your evidence that they will outproduce Dukes? What makes you think they will even come close?

by martins on Mar 17, 2010 11:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Dukes was the Washington baseball equivalent of the Wizards' Kwame Brown

Many lofty expectations and predictions of future greatness but neither player showed that they really “got” the game that they were playing. The Wizards held onto Kwame Brown for too long. He would show occasional flashes of dominance (one play every 4th game) but mostly he played like a perennial backup, not a no. 1 overall draft pick.

Likewise, many people had very high expectations for Dukes, that he could be a 40-40 player (HRs/SBs) and a top defensive OF. He really didn’t show much at all in his time with the Nats except maybe in 2008.

What people have overlooked in recent days is Dukes frailty. Despite being built like an NFL linebacker, Dukes was injured a heck of a lot. I think most people around the team recognized that Dukes could never be a full-time player for a 162-game season. At best, he could play for 100-120 games. Maybe that’s OK for an aging catcher like Pudge Rodriguez but for an OF in his prime years, that’s way too low.

Then there’s the clubhouse chemistry issue. It’s just eerie for the guy to have been around for this long and not have a single real friend on the team. With his past troubles in Tampa, you can bet that he made a lot of his teammates nervous on a daily basis. I’ve been around similar situations at work, with someone you know has the potential to explode, and it does affect the performance of everyone else.

So we have someone who can’t hit curve balls, who gets picked off when he does manage to get on-base, who rarely shows his power in at-bats that count, and who continues to make fielding errors when he’s in his mid 20s. Someone who can never become an everyday player because of his propensity for injury and someone who clouds up the clubhouse with a sullen mysterious attitude and a troubling off-field history.

I don’t see his release as a mistake or a big loss for the team. I don’t think the Nats would have received much of anything in a trade except for a similar player with personal issues and failure to live up to an overabundance of hype. As far as on-field performance goes, this move feels similar to cutting a player like Wily Mo Pena. No big loss. A guy with incredible strength but not really a good ball player. As far as character issues and clubhouse atmosphere, this move would be like cutting someone like a Milton Bradley. Only Dukes offered a lot less on the field and at the plate.

Remember, when Dukes was available a couple years ago, there was hardly any interest in him at all around baseball. There probably still isn’t. Some commentators and probably more than a few GMs felt that he shouldn’t be allowed back into baseball at all after the domestic incidents in Florida.

Instead of comparing Dukes to a platoon of two other players, we should compare a platoon of Dukes and someone else to a different platoon. Dukes would not have played the entire year. He’s never made it through a season without multiple injuries. Why would he do so this year?

I do hope that Dukes can find some peace and a way to deal with the issues that still affect him. But I think the team can be better off without him. He may just remind too many people in the clubhouse of the weird Bowden era, where castoffs from around the league were brought in time and time again. That era is associated with a losing atmosphere and a lot of bizarre distractions and situations, and players with bad attitudes or lingering injuries who never could become full-time players (Felipe Lopez, Paul Lo Duca, John Patterson, Shawn Hill, Lastings Milledge). This move may signal another step in moving on from the Bowden era. Though I wasn’t expecting it either, Dukes’ release makes sense when you look at all angles.

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by Potomac Fan on Mar 20, 2010 2:03 PM EDT reply actions  

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