Washington Nationals: Can Adam Dunn Get It, Uh, Done At First?
There's been a lot of talk in these pages about Adam Dunn playing first all season in 2010, with me wondering whether or not he'll be exposed as a DH-worthy defensive liability while Dunn backers (I'm a fan, but not of his defense), argue that his performance at the end of the '09 season, once Nick Johnson had been dealt away to Florida, is proof enough that the 6'6", 275 lb 30-year-old power-hitter is capable of doing the job on the Nats' defensively-challenged roster...Dunn has started exactly 162 games at first over his 9-year MLB career according to Baseball-Reference.com's Standard Fielding stats, with 23 E's and a .985 fld%. Fangraphs.com has Dunn at a (-17.0 UZR/150) over his career at first, (-25.0 UZR/150) last season. (Quick UZR/150 Definition from Fangraphs.com: "The number of runs above or below average a fielder is, per 150 defensive games.") What do the Nationals think? According to SI.com's Jon Heyman, the Washington Nationals' discussions with Dunn about a contract extension are on hold until they see what the big Texan is able to do defensively at first. In Mr. Heyman's own words:
"...with the DH unavailable to him in the National League, Nats people say they think he's better at first than in the outfield, and they have told Dunn that he needs to turn himself into a serviceable first baseman before they make him an offer befitting a 40-homer man. So he's working hard at it."
LINK: Previously On Federal Baseball: This Morning's Dunn Argument.
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In a late-January article entitled, "A Dunn extension and a man of letters", before Spring Training started, MASNSports.com's Phil Wood talked to "someone who's pretty close to [Dunn]", who told him that Dunn:
"...doesn't want to DH in the American League. He wants to play the field, and believes his first base defense has reached the adequate level. He knows he's no Gold Glover, but believes that he'll get better..."
According to Dunn himself, as quoted in a late February article by MLB.com's Bill Ladson entitled, "Dunn trying to take next step at first base", it took a little while for him to get used to being moved out of left field last season. As he explained to Mr. Ladson, it, "...took about three weeks to feel normal at first base," Dunn says, and he's aware that he won't be he promises he won't be that bad:
"I'm not going to sit there and say I'm going to be the best ever, but I'm not going to be the worst."
Should DC GM Mike Rizzo extend Adam Dunn? Already this Spring, though most of the games are on the radio and we have to rely on the announcer's description, there have been some miscues at first, where bunts were fielded with no one at the base to accept a throw, and just the other night, there was a slow bouncer that Dunn flat missed, prompting the opposing team's announcers to comment that (to paraphrase) "Just about any other first baseman would have had that?" Can Dunn get it, uh, done on a full-time basis at first? Or is he headed out in a trade or as a free agent when this season is over?
• Bring your stats! Your fanboy love of HR hitters? Complain about his K's to make everyone angry! (That's my thing!) Is Adam Dunn going to be the Nationals' first baseman next season, or should fans try to appreciate him all they can while they can?
NOTE: Tonight's 3/25 game against the Tigers doesn't seem to be available anywhere on radio or TV, so you're on your own, I'll put up a note about the Lineups before the game, but there's no way to follow apparently...
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strikeouts don't matter
i did that for your benefit Ed.
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by Dave at District Sports Page on Mar 25, 2010 2:06 PM EDT reply actions
I admit I expected a Wilkerson-esque K problem from Dunn....
But he’s much more patient at the plate than I gave him credit for before watching him on a day-to-day basis….no way did I expect close to a .400 OBP…
But he still does K a lot…
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by Patrick Reddington on Mar 25, 2010 2:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Would you rather use John Dewan's +/- that he published in The Fielding Bible?
That gives the first baseman credit for holding the runner (and thereby raising the first baseman’s rating). While I somewhat agree that UZR is overrated – especially for small samples, I’d use UZR or +/- before I used fielding percentage…
Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
I've heard all the sample size talk...
How many games would Dunn need at first before you could draw conclusions?
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by Patrick Reddington on Mar 25, 2010 2:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
one
He’s not very good
Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
Tom Tango did the math
200 PA = 400 BIP. A first baseman gets on average 3 chances per nine innings. Over 150 games, that’s 450 chances or the equivalent of 225 PAs. You’d never judge a batter on 225 PAs, so you probably shouldn’t judge a 1B on 450 chances (1 season). So, the real answer to your question is probably close to 3 years before UZR has enough chances to accurately portray a player’s ability.
Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
Robbob made this point
(though not as thoroughly) in the argument thread, and it is a good one. Thanks NS.
i don't need the metrics either
though I believe they are useful. Dunn is not a good fielder. at all. and at 30 years of age, isn’t going to become one, despite everyone wishing that it would happen.
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by Dave at District Sports Page on Mar 25, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I totally agree!!!!!!!!!
Although I hope we are wrong!
"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James
Dave now remember that's why it's call wishing. Even if it's wishful thinking wishing.
Say that five times….
Wishful thinking wishing…blahblahblah
I don't anyone thinks he's going to become a great fielder
Or, probably, even an average one. But a below-average-fielding-well-above-average-hitting first baseman is valuable.
Rob
"Man may penetrate the outer reaches of the universe, he may solve the very secret of eternity itself, but for me, the ultimate human experience is to witness the flawless execution of a hit-and-run." -- Branch Rickey
True but Dunn was three times worse than the second worse !B last season
he has a real long way to go to become below average.
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Bunk
With the sample size and the extremely large variance in UZRs for 1bs, you cannot prove that Dunn was worse than the second-worst guy.
Rob
"Man may penetrate the outer reaches of the universe, he may solve the very secret of eternity itself, but for me, the ultimate human experience is to witness the flawless execution of a hit-and-run." -- Branch Rickey
what is this "proof" you speak of?
I watched 120 games last year! I saw him missplay balls!
What other “proof” do you need?
If Dunn manages an UZR/150 of, say, -10...
…I think we’d all be pleased. It’s still worse by a few runs than any regular 1B was in 2009, and also better than he’s ever managed in his career to date. But I can wish for it, too.
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Which translates into
about one loss defensively, as I said in the previous thread. He can more than make up for that with his 4-4.5 wins offensively.
Rob
"Man may penetrate the outer reaches of the universe, he may solve the very secret of eternity itself, but for me, the ultimate human experience is to witness the flawless execution of a hit-and-run." -- Branch Rickey
Unless the other 1Bs are getting 3ish wins with their bats...
…at which point they have equal value in terms of wins—possibly for less money. No, I haven’t checked to see if this is the case.
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the variance based on sample size is +/- 10 for UZR/150
So Dunn is somewhere between -35 and -15 at UZR/150. The next worse was Billy Butler at -7.
"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James
Umm, huh?
As I understand it, the standard error for UZR/150 is 10/ sqrt( innings/150 ), and that only applies to middle infielders (the sd being 15 for 1b). I think you are way off on your calculation here.
Rob
"Man may penetrate the outer reaches of the universe, he may solve the very secret of eternity itself, but for me, the ultimate human experience is to witness the flawless execution of a hit-and-run." -- Branch Rickey
sorry dave but
to say you dont need the metrics because “you can use your eyes” is a terrible argument.
LASIK!
It worked for teh Guz. For a while.
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i laughed at this
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by Dave at District Sports Page on Mar 25, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
+1 Heee....
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all we are saying
is give the guy a legit shot at first… that hasn’t been done yet.
If someone shows why something is as of yet inconclusive and you say something like “i dont need metrics to tell me what I already know” you are being unfairly dismissive, anecdotal, and well, just flat out wrong, in my opinion.
he has over 1400 innings at first in his career
Thjat is more than TAWH has in LF or CF in his career
"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James
thank you
he’s had less than one full season at first in an entire career
can we stop with the “dunn’s had his chances at first base” nonsense yet?
i NEVER said that
I’m perfectly happy to watch him play first this year. it’s his only position on the field. he’s just not going to do it very well. in my opinion.
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by Dave at District Sports Page on Mar 25, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
wasnt referring to you, dave
brian made the innings post and tried to imply that it was a lot because it was more than willie harris has had in his career
i thought it was funny
that everyone quotes Harris’ defensive metric numbers like he’s some sort of god out there, when it’s just as small a sample size as Dunn at first.
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by Dave at District Sports Page on Mar 25, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Most college guys get far fewer innings than that before the draft
Yet baseball gives some millions based on those numbers
"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James
No, it's because they're, "good-lookin' ball players," as Ray Knight would say...
…although some teams pay quite a bit of attention to the stats that actually converge over limited college/HS career innings, which are mainly offense (the easy ones, OBP/SLG).
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I've seen several hundred college games
It’s REALLY EASY to see which players are going to get drafted and which players are not. Even the most junior scout doesn’t need stats…
Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
and that's where the bias comes in
for some reason, there is a ton of it when it comes to Dunn.
If I had to guess, the old men don’t like that no one cares that he strikes out a lot…
They feel he’s “not a traditional ballplayer” whatever the hell that means.
of course, thats just my guess :)
wow, that was suppsoed to be in response to dave
RE: willie harris sample size
dont know how it got here
+1... hope for the best, expect the worst...
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Not trivial
Many on here have argued that Harris is not a regular player based on many fewer carreer innings at any position than Dunn at Firstbase.
for reference:
JMax has 277 total career innings.
Guzman has had a similar number of innings since 2006 in total
"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James
I don't want to pour more gas on this fire but...
The number of chances per 9 innings are different for each position.
SS/2B – 5 BIP per 9 innings
3B/CF – 4
LF/RF/1B – 3
Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
dude
we were arguing against harris because he has a sub 700 OPS in over 2k career PA. Don’t conflate two seperate issues
most projection systems have him in the mid to low 700s for 2010
for his career against Rhp he is worth over .700. he is bad against Lefties, but as a platoon player he will have great value.
"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James
i appreciate your opinion
and i didn’t mean to infer that i don’t use the metrics. i do.
but i also look at the player. and he’s got slow feet. he doesn’t react very well. he is terrible going backwards for a ball. he’s fairly decent going high and surprisingly ok scooping, but the real problem is that his reaction times are slow on balls hit in his direction.
and I also know that as he gets older he will get worse, not better. it’s a fact.
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by Dave at District Sports Page on Mar 25, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I like The RZO's...
…“I like it when the stats support what I see with my eyes” line…paraphrasing of course…
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by Patrick Reddington on Mar 25, 2010 3:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
would anyone
trade Adam Dunn for Nick Johnson today?
2009
Nats fan to usher: "Hey isn’t it a bit early for the Nationals to erect a statue of Manny Acta?"
Usher: "Uh sir, that’s not a statue, that actually is Manny Acta."
Yes for Nick Johnson and the Yanks AAA RF
Don’t even know who he is – just saying…
Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
Before I saw reply down here I was thinking Dunn for Johnson and Prospect
Rizzo, please! Now’s the time to point to your head and trade Dunn so we can get our Nick back…
Yes no question!!!
that is a no brainer.
"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James
why?
Because of Nick’s -6.3 UZR/150 defense that he posted last year?
Rob
"Man may penetrate the outer reaches of the universe, he may solve the very secret of eternity itself, but for me, the ultimate human experience is to witness the flawless execution of a hit-and-run." -- Branch Rickey
Nick alos had a .400+ on base percentage
and is in his second year back from injury, so his 20+ homer power should return as well. Lastly, Nick only had a below average UZR/150 for one season. The recovery year from injury. Noone has a plus year followinbg a year off. Other years he was just about as good as it gets.
"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James
Back when we were first hearing about the possible Dunn trade, I did the math...
…granted this was in the offseason before 2009, but it showed that the place Dunn would really hurt us (at the time) was if he played first—because of NJ’s insane (even compared to Dunn) OBP, he actually had a slightly higher wOBA. And even with his poor defense last year, that still adds up to more runs that Dunn. I’d make that trade.
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My stat-hero!! Bring Back Johnson!! Hehe...
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by Patrick Reddington on Mar 25, 2010 3:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Interestingly enough,
The margin of error for 1b UZR playing a 1/3 of a season is…
25.
Rob
"Man may penetrate the outer reaches of the universe, he may solve the very secret of eternity itself, but for me, the ultimate human experience is to witness the flawless execution of a hit-and-run." -- Branch Rickey
+/- 10 for a 150 game season
he has 150 games for his career and he is -17 for that.
"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James
+/- 10 for a SS/2b/ or CF.
Closer to +/-15 for a 1b, if he plays a full season. For a third of a season, multiply by sqrt(3) —> 25.
Rob
"Man may penetrate the outer reaches of the universe, he may solve the very secret of eternity itself, but for me, the ultimate human experience is to witness the flawless execution of a hit-and-run." -- Branch Rickey
there's a reason Johnson was signed to play DH
and I’m not getting into this argument today.
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by Dave at District Sports Page on Mar 25, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
injuries
Can’t stay of the field. Just like the big hurt and thome. But were solid defenders turned DHs.
"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James
Most teams would start NJ
The Yankees have a better guy already on first
"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James
maybe
but he IS optimal at DH so he dosen’t kill himself
I like guys who walk alot as DHs
have no data for this, but I think they are less affected by the down time.
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despite his stellar OBP
i bet there aren’t that many teams that would bring in Johnson to play 1B anymore. he’s a fine DH. let’s leave it at that.
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by Dave at District Sports Page on Mar 25, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
started for two different teams last season
one of those teams won more than 80 games
"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James
and one of those teams was the Nats
but there were only two teams “in” on him as a free agent, and both wanted him as DH (SEA and NYY).
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by Dave at District Sports Page on Mar 25, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
A bunch of very good Firstbasemen become free agents after this season
I say we try real hard to sign one of them. In the meantime, we can give Dunn one season to prove to himself how bad he is at first.
"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James
Mrs. Doghouse is holding out for Prince Fielder.
I’m a little worried about him staying healthy, but she misses having DaMeathook as her baseball teddy bear. I guess I’d settle for Pujols…
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Will the Mrs. make him a sandwich?
BTW this year you’ve got to rate game based on the “MRS.DOGHOUSE Sandwich O Meter”
Easy night for the Nats = 1 sandwich
Hard night = say 10 sandwiches…
SANDWICHES!!
The Mrs. makes a pretty mean veggie sandwich with eggplant. Tell Rizzo she’ll throw some in during the contract talks.
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The scenario to live by according to me...
Flores = catcher
Norris = 1B
Harper = RF
A man’s got to dream.
i'm not wishing failure
i’m only trying to look realistically at this.
look, i enjoy home runs and high OBP as much as the next guy, if not more.
but my original thought is the one i’m holding to: it’s a bad idea for the Nats to tie money up in an player on the downside of his career.
but i’ll stop now, because this is getting pointless. we all know where each other stands.
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by Dave at District Sports Page on Mar 25, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think we wish it so much as expect it...
…it’s been a rough couple of years. I’d be very happy if Dunn managed to be a merely below-average glover at 1B. I don’t think it’s likely, and I’d want any contract extension to be contingent on him showing improvement (Dave’s points about getting the team younger, and trying to cash in at the trade deadline aside… both good ones.)
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Expressed my feelings very well in your post
"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James
nobody wishes failure
I just do not want his resigned when about 25 first basemen in the game are better all round. Dunn was born to DH and should. he would be far more productive as a DH.
David Ortiz’s worst season as a firstbasemen was twice as Good as Dunn has been so far. Based on UZR/150
"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James
but thats what i mean what i said
you defend cristian guzman, one of the worst everyday players in baseball last year, every chance you get.
Yet you cant get Dunn out of here fast enough. It makes no sense to me.
Guzman was injured and far frm the worst everday player
He is not good but not terrible. His glove is average and his bat is below average. Based on WAR he was somewhat comparable to Dunn all round last season and the 5th best player on the NATS.
We could certainly do better. I am all for desmond at SS.
I just argued in the past he would not be the end of the world at second if he was healthy and not many FAs this offseason were much of an improvement over hin at seond.
"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James
comparable to Dunn?
According to fangraphs his war was 0.8 last year. Comparable on what planet?
based on UZR/150
Which, if this were the one and only stat one should observe for a player, would make a pretty solid argument. Sortof.
Rob
"Man may penetrate the outer reaches of the universe, he may solve the very secret of eternity itself, but for me, the ultimate human experience is to witness the flawless execution of a hit-and-run." -- Branch Rickey
Reading this thread is more entertaining than watching ST games
Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
Not as entertaining that some of the nationals.com posts
but I think we have some of the same players on here
LERNER'S R TEH CHEEP!!!11(ONE)!!
Oh, sorry, I thought this was Nationals Journal… At any rate, I look forward to many spirited discussions in the coming season. I’ll be the one wailing and gnashing my teeth…
"And everybody lived happily ever after. Except the Phillies and the Mets. The End." --Sasskuash
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I think we all agree that Dunn isn't the optimal 1b for the Nats...
Let’s hope that when the second batch of “real” pitchers come in May and June that Rizzo will trade for some much needed bats.
Correct
Albert Pujols is the optimal 1b for the Nats.
They aren’t going to be able to trade for a stick as good as Dunn’s. The only guy possibly available would be Gonzalez… and the Padres aren’t going to give him up for anybody not named “Strasburg”.
Rob
"Man may penetrate the outer reaches of the universe, he may solve the very secret of eternity itself, but for me, the ultimate human experience is to witness the flawless execution of a hit-and-run." -- Branch Rickey
Eldred was awesome...in 20 Spring Training games last year...
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by Patrick Reddington on Mar 25, 2010 3:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I was actually excited when he came to our franchise...
He was once one of the top prospects in the Pirates organization…he just seemed to get lost in the shuffle, and maybe that was on purpose. But I always thought we would eventually see him at 1B
More comments from Mr. Insignifcant
That picture of him isn’t flattering. He looks like 275lbs of chewed bubble gum. Gee-bus! Well, I hope the man can still crank em out!
This season I will expect the worst but I will be prepared for 'worser'.
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Mar 25, 2010 4:45 PM EDT reply actions
Self edit:
“Insignificant”
This season I will expect the worst but I will be prepared for 'worser'.
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Mar 25, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
That's affirmative friend.
At least till 2012. What’s happenin?
This season I will expect the worst but I will be prepared for 'worser'.
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Mar 25, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
LOU!
Always nice to see another old-timer.
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Old-Timer?
You got that right. Played flag football last Saturday in D.C. (first time since ’97) and the body is still trying to recover.
Hey, do you got your season supply of Ole Grandad sour mash stocked in the cupboard for your better half’s enjoyment? If I’m not mistaken, she likes to take a sip every now and then when things are goin’ south for the Nats.
(I hope that I’ve got the right guy, because if not, Ed just might ban me for stupidity)
This season I will expect the worst but I will be prepared for 'worser'.
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Mar 25, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
If folks got banned for stupidity i wouldn't be allowed on my own site...
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by Patrick Reddington on Mar 25, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions
You ain't kiddin partna'
I’ve watched more Spring Training baseball this year than ever before.
Looking forward to listening to Rob Dibble soon. You gonna make it to opening day? (Silly question, right?)
This season I will expect the worst but I will be prepared for 'worser'.
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Mar 25, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Opening Day
The website screwed Roscoe when the tickets went on sale. I may go…I may not.
If it wasn’t against a pitcher not named Roy Freaking Halladay, I may try harder to obtain tickets.
"It's Only Preseason" Dunn's "mendoza line" has fallen to .167
and the starters 2010 battle cry looks like they’ll need to hire Tom Jackson to yell….. “JACKED UP”
Why no quotes around ".167"?
2009
Nats fan to usher: "Hey isn’t it a bit early for the Nationals to erect a statue of Manny Acta?"
Usher: "Uh sir, that’s not a statue, that actually is Manny Acta."

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