Washington Nationals: Stephen Strasburg Debut Drama.
Stephen Strasburg will make his fifth start for the Triple-A Syracuse Chiefs at 7:00 pm EST on Saturday, May 29th in Syracuse, NY's Alliance Bank Stadium against the NY Yankees' Triple-A affiliate, the Scranton/Wilkes-Barre Yankees, that much is for sure, barring any weather issues, injuries, etc. After that? It won't be June 4th apparently, as most had speculated in the last few weeks. June 8th? Washington Post writer Adam Kilgore (@AdamKilgoreWP) quoted Nats' team President Stan Kasten on May 24th telling Washington Post writer Dave Sheinin, "'The only way to be sure not to miss it is to buy a season ticket,'" and Mr. Kilgore quoted DC Skipper Jim Riggleman this past Wednesday (the 26th) saying only that, "...the #Nats have a pretty good idea when #Strasburg will debut. he said they'll wait to announce it, if at all."
WFED 1500 Radio announcer Charlie Slowes (@charlie_slowes) sent a tweet out yesterday pointing out that it wasn't the Nationals who started all the guessing games, "Fans should not be angry with Nats. The club has never given a date...members of tweeting media have done so." But it wasn't just the tweeting media that was speculating. Remember the interview DC GM Mike Rizzo did with ESPN's Sportcenter on May 14th, when host John Buccigross (impertinently?) tried to pin the general manager down for a debut date asking, ""How does Friday night June the 4th against the Reds sound to you, Mike?" Mr. Rizzo's response?:
"'Well, you know it's a possibility...there's several windows that it could take place..."
Former DC GM Jim Bowden, now a part of the media he once blamed for "forcing" him out of Washington, has been only too willing to speculate as to when the Nats' top prospect, and arguably the top prospect in baseball would finally get the call, tweeting back on May 16th "...Nationals to purchase Drew Storen on Monday to help up-grade bullpen, Strasburg not far behind...maybe June 4th." FOXSports.com's Jon Paul Morosi speculated on a June 4th debut in a May 26, 2010 article entitled, "Strasburg should bring fans to D.C.", in which he asked a "Nationals employee" to confirm the date: "'Mum’s the word,'" is the response Mr. Morosi received, and he then quotes, "another in the industry" who'd lined things up and concluded, "'Most likely, it will be...[June 4th]."
MLB.com's Bill Ladson's article entitled, "Strasburg's debut could come against Bucs", published later in the evening on the 26th of May than Mr. Morosi's, quoted a team source who said that, "The Nationals are tentatively planning to have right-hander Stephen Strasburg make his Major League debut against the Pirates at Nationals Park in June," which would put Strasburg's debut between June 8-10, when Pittsburgh visits the nation's capital.
The public perception now, however, is that the Nationals themselves put the possibility of a June 4th debut out there to sell out the weekend series with the Reds, which might not otherwise have drawn a large crowd. And now by not stating definitively which date in the series with the Pirates Strasburg will pitch, the aim is to sell out that entire series as well, a three-game midweek series with former Nats' center fielder Lastings Milledge and the 20-28 Pirates. ESPN's Tony Kornheiser and Michael Wilbon summed up the current sentiment and the situation fans who only want to see Strasburg's debut are left with yesterday in a quick segment at the end of yesterday's "Pardon the Interruption" which began with the co-hosts saying, "Happy Trails" to the mystery, sort of:
Tony Kornheiser: "Happy Trails to the mystery over Stephen Strasburg's first major league start. Sources say the Natinals plan to debut Strasburg against the Pirates on either June 8th, June 9th or June 10th, by keeping the precise date a secret, the Natinals hope to sell many tickets to all three games..."
Michael Wilbon: "Then how could we bid 'Happy Trails' when we don't know the date, it's still a mystery?"
Tony Kornheiser: "Because it started out by thinking that he was going to pitch against the Cincinnati Reds on June 4th or 5th, so that's gone..."
Michael Wilbon: "That's gone, we got three new dates...."
Tony Reali: "I guess, technically, Wilbon, you are right there then, the mystery still is there..."
The mystery continues, hopefully everyone who bought a ticket for the June 4th game can afford to go on June 8th as well, that's where my sympathy lies, with a fan who maybe had to make a choice as to which of the games they could afford to go to, and I think fans who are angry have every right to be if they feel they were duped. But did the team do it? Did bloggers, tweeters, local and national writers and commentators do it? Is there any way to ever know when all news is attributed to unnamed sources. Let's hope that once Strasburg's up in the majors and pitching every fifth day the drama of the last month is the last thing on the minds of the DC Faithful...Should the Nationals (Nationals, Mr. Kornheiser!) shoulder the blame if you're stuck with a ticket to a June 4th game against the Reds and might have to suffer through a Strasburg-less outing by a currently-.500 Nats' team against the visiting Reds, who are currently perched atop the NL Central. Are you still going to buy a ticket for June 8th as well? Won't it be nice to forget what happened before his debut when we all get to sit down together and watch Strasburg pitch...
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ESPN.com's Buster Olney focused today on the player himself, rather than on the hype surrounding his debut, asking Strasburg's draft-mate and teammate in Double-AA Harrisburg and Syracuse, Drew Storen, in a blog post entitled, "Impaler Imitation", where the Nats' second '09 1st Round pick says he's been, "...struck by the ease with which Strasburg made the transition from Double-A to Triple-A," and thinks the hype is justified, "'Nobody lives up to those kinds of stories -- but he's the only guy who will live up to those stories.'"
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President Obama should call for a special prosecutor to get to the bottom of Debutgate.
by PerryMason on May 28, 2010 2:48 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Transparency is not the way with this organization.
Washington Post writer Adam Kilgore (@AdamKilgoreWP) quoted Nats’ team President Stan Kasten on May 24th telling Washington Post writer Dave Sheinin, “‘The only way to be sure not to miss it is to buy a season ticket,’”
That kind of snide comment from Kasten is what pisses me off. He doesn’t really feel sad for people who aren’t that well off economically who really, really sacrificed to buy a June 4 date. He doesn’t care for people like out of town Reds fans, who chose that date to travel from out of town because they thought it might be the date of the debut.
Our front office has not demonstrated a large capacity for empathy or transparency. They’ve shown that they are going to try to build a baseball team and make money while doing it.
That’s certainly fine, and the flip response from most fans of intelligence should be to save money on discretionary purchases when it comes to the Nationals like concessions, season tickets, and jerseys, you’ll have the money to buy the most possible dates the next time they have an opportunity to play a 6/8-6/10 shell game.
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1+
3 tickets, great seats. I would never have spent so much of my money if I had known Strasburg wouldn’t be starting. I should have waited, but by then,
the #Nats have a pretty good idea when #Strasburg will debut. he said they’ll wait to announce it, if at all.no seats would’ve been available.
The Shanahan era is going to bring the Redskins back to Glory! Great QB and an actual O-line.
For the record, I'm an active poster at Red Reporter as well.
I kind of like that plucky team and I’m extremely tired of the Cardinals. Anyways, there’s a group of at least 25 of them who purchased tickets from out of town and many of them will be travelling to see their team play the Nationals on Friday. I’m sure that travel, taking off work, finding accomodations and the like costs quite a bunch of money. They may have chosen to come to the series anyway, but I wonder whether they would have chosen to come on a Saturday when it is easier for folks to go to the game.
I put up a fanpost asking for their feedback on Strasburg’s debut here.
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Kasten's comment is really what gets me.
The Nationals have done nothing wrong, because like they say, any number of things can happen. But getting smart about it and trivializing the frustration we’re feeling over this is a great way to alienate your fan base.
I really get the sense that the FO doesn't care but so much about local fans unless they are season ticket holders.
They want a loyal base of people that buy ticket packages and season tickets, but I really think Stan the Man doesn’t always appreciate how fans want to feel like their FO has empathy and sensitivity to the sacrifices that they make to root for the team.
They just don’t get how sad they look in comparison to the Caps when it comes to fan relations and fan communications.
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Kasten didn't really pack the seats in Atlanta either.
It got so bad they couldn’t even sell out play-off games. You’d think the Lerners would look at the relationship that Kasten built with the people in Atlanta and bring in someone else for the PR job. If anything, Kasten has been almost anti-fan in the last few years (opening day fiasco, SS situation, etc.)
If anything, I blame the Lerners for relying too much on Kasten in this matter. I can’t believe that the Lerners wouldn’t want to build a loyal fan base. I think they are listening to Kasten’s “plan” and haven’t looked at how things worked out in ATL. The Braves have only been in the top 10 in attendance once this decade (10th in 2003). With all of the great teams they’ve had, they have consistently ranked 14th-16th in attendance.
Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
Good point about this.
Why do you think that is? I don’t see the Atlanta fans as being that passionate about any of their sports. They struggled to sell out Hawks games even as that team became a winner. I got the sense that the playoff poor attendance was a reflection of how common and less of a “buzz” event playoff participation was for that team.
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Olney
Weeks before I first heard June 4th, Buster Olney said June 8th.
If so, Olney gets props on this one.
Man, must charge Insider prices for something of merit I guess.
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What chu' talkin' 'bout Willis?!

I guess “buyer beware” is no where in the fine print of those tickets that were purchased for the Reds game(s). I’ve typed my butt off about this lousy handling of the Strasburg debut on other blogs and among emails to friends. I’ve had enough.
I’d like to be empathetic to the fans because of the money, time and effort spent ‘hoping’ to see Strasburg on the 4th – but as has been alluded to already, not a soul came out and said that he will DEFINITELY be pitching on the 4th. Shame on fans for expecting the Nationals front office (or any front office for that matter) to do things in the fan’s interest.
The business of sports is just that; business. Sports is a major entertainment attraction that is probably only second behind major motion pictures. Owners know that people are going to come to sporting events. If not to cheer on the team, then to just have something to do on a weeknight or weekend. The money is going to come.
In my opinion, the Nats have wasted a golden opportunity to market his debut with slickness and panache. They have had the opportunity to create a devoted fan base and bring hope to a team that is playing a bit above themselves considering their pitching situation. But…The front office wins regardless because they got some suckers to doll out money for a series in which they won’t see their hoped for messiah.
This season I will expect the worst but I will be prepared for 'worser'.
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on May 28, 2010 6:39 PM EDT reply actions
P.S. Rest In Peace Gary.
This season I will expect the worst but I will be prepared for 'worser'.
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on May 28, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Different Strokes was funny stuff when I was younger.
Now I have a better sense of why my parents were uncomfortable with me watching shows like that and Dukes of Hazard of course.
Roc was the king of the black lead shows for me.
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+1, though
Gary brought a lot of joy to a lot of people.
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Again, certainly they are entitled to run their business as they choose.
But they need to realize that good business is about having good relations with fans. A relative of mine commutes from NYC to club section tickets in NYC. He’s probably going to let those expire, in part because FO incompetence and a little thing about them not letting him get close to the field easily for autographs when there weren’t fans sitting in the seats before a game at Fedex.
Likewise, the Caps have awesome customer service. My brother and I felt no pain in paying a premier price for good seats to go to the Caps home opener. We had a great experience and a great time all the way around. We got jerseys for Christmas, and the next time I get some coin I’ll be buying a Nicklaus Backstrom T-shirt as a thank you to Ted for making a commitment to one of my favorite players on the team and handling the situation correctly.
Stuff like the Phillie fiasco and Stan K’s comments keep in the wait and see posture for concessions, jerseys in the like. They think that they have made money by handling things in this fashion, but for this fan at least, they have lost some money.
If it’s just a business for them, it’s just a business for me when it comes to spending money on this squad.
Hanging with you cool people and rooting for the players, manager, and GM is a completely differerent can of fish. Y’all are awesome and I love this team and how they represent themselves.
GO NATS!!!!
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I guess in the end
they either want to be owners of a business or owners of a championship baseball team. I fear it’s the former.
This season I will expect the worst but I will be prepared for 'worser'.
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on May 28, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
hahahahahaha
by souldrummer
Again, certainly they are entitled to run their business as they choose.
But they need to realize that good business is about having good relations with fans
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You’re talking about the Lerners…when have they ever given a ratzazz about the fans?
Now off to San Diego where Dorothy wants to say…“The Padres aren’t in Kansas anymore..”
sub .500 next home game in GNATStown.
no hit morgan…3 man bull pen…even fewer legit starters…….the triple macarena !!!
Heyyyy Macarena!! Hoy!!
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on May 28, 2010 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Crazy Memories
I saw several thousand Eastern Shore fans trying to do the Macarena during the 7th inning stretch at a Delmarva Shorebirds game. It was one of the more surreal experiences of my life LOL
Some minor league ball Guiness Record I presume?
Man, I’m so mad that I haven’t had wheels. Would love to drive out to Salsbury to see a Suns v. Shorebirds game.
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