Washington Nationals: Stephen Strasburg Suffers First Loss in Triple-A Start Five...Now What?
The Scranton/Wilkes-Barre Yankees come into Alliance Bank Stadium in Syracuse, NY with a plan against Chiefs' right-hander and future Washington Nationals' ace, Stephen Strasburg, stepping out time and again in the first to attempt to throw the '09 no.1 overall draft pick's rhythm out of whack, but all they accomplish is making the 21-year-old starter throw a few more pitches than usual as he strikes out two with a groundout in between on the way to a 20-pitch scoreless first frame. In the second, Yanks' left fielder Jon Weber smacks the first pitch up the middle for leadoff single, but a double play grounder from first baseman Chad Huffman back to the mound, and a first-pitch lineout by Jesus Montero end Strasburg's second after seven pitches, 27 total thrown through two.
The Yankees' DH Rene Rivera starts the third at the plate against Strasburg, working the count full, and launching a 99mph fastball for a solo HR to right-center off the phenom, who gives up his first minor league HR allowed in 10 starts at Double and then Triple-A. The Yankees manage a one-out single off Strasburg as well, but he holds the S/WB Yanks to the one run and retires the side having thrown 45 pitches, 29 for strikes. A one-out walk in the fourth is all the Yankees manage, as Strasburg gets a backwards K with an 0-2 curve to Eduardo Nunez before back to back grounders end an 18-pitch fourth inning on the mound.
A one-out single in the fifth interrupts Strasburg striking out the side, and when he gets the third K to retire outfielder Greg Golsen, the Chiefs' starter is up 2-1 after five innings pitched in which he's thrown 77 pitches, 49 for strikes and K'd six of the 19 batters he's faced with 6 groundouts, 3 flyouts, 4 hits, 1 walk and 1 ER allowed on the HR.
Back-to-back singles to start the sixth and a walk to load the bases and Strasburg's lifted after 5.0 IP, 86 pitches, 54 strikes, 6 hits, 1 HR, 1 ER. 2 walks and 6 K's to go with 6 groundouts and 6 flyouts from the Yankees' batters....Make that 3 ER, the two runners Strasburg lets on score after he's out when Josh Wilkie gets an RBI grounder from Yankees' catcher Chad Huffman that allows a run to cross, and gives up a two-out single to Jesus Montero that scores the second runner to single off Strasburg to start the sixth to make it 3-2 Yankees...and the hold on for the win. Strasburg suffers his first loss at Triple-A. In 10 starts and 50.1 IP in 5 GS at Harrisburg and now Syracuse, the Nats' '09 no.1 overall pick is now (6-2) with a 1.43 ERA, .157 BAA, 28 H, 12 BB (2.15 BB/9) 14 R, 8 ER allowed 60 K's collected (10.73 K/9).
What's next for Stephen Strasburg? We're about to find out...
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What's his Super Two status?
If that’s not an issue, can somebody give me a reason not to bring him up now?
He’s chomping at the bit.
Let Secretariat run.
My take
Despite the results, I felt that he looked a little better this start than he did the last start. The control was better but not his best, and he seemed to be working the ground balls. That was a good piece of hitting on the HR. It was hit the other way on a pitcher very low in the zone. A good hitter figures out a way to reverse all that velocity and it clears the wall.
Seemed to me that he wasn’t pitching inside enough early and that was part of how the HR got hit. He learned that lesson and looked better the rest of the way.
To me he got the loss because they didn’t give him a chance to clean up his own mess. Bases loaded no out but he clearly felt his stuff was good enough to either get the double play ball and hold them to one run or start striking out some dudes. Guy averages over a strikeout per inning.
Sure, I think they should call him up 6/4, but the “struggles” of the last two outings will probably used to justify keeping him town, in part because of fear of the Reds offense, and in part because they want him to have more success before calling him up.
Ian Desmond...because the future starts now for the Washington Nationals.
How could they possibly use his spectacular performances in the minors to date to justify not bringing him up?
To me, that’s nonsense.
If the reason they are keeping him down is because they want him to experience more success, that’s funny.
Souldrummer, do you think starting SS one more game in AAA is going to help him in anyway in his major league career?
It’s probably bordering on insulting for him.
I guess, I just don’t get it. So what’s new?
He lost the game. He is capable of losing. Therefore he is capable of losing. Since his is capable of losing for the Nationals he could hurt the team. The Nationals have shown that they prefer starters who are incapable of losing. Therefore he should stay at AAA until he has reestablished that he is incapable of losing.
QED.
Ian Desmond...because the future starts now for the Washington Nationals.
Cy Young lost 300+ games
Walter Johnson lost. Sandy Koufax lost. Heck, Ron Guidry even lost three times in 1978. If they’re going to wait until he’s “incapable of losing” at any level, he’s going to stay in Syracuse for a long, long time.
My reply was sarcastic.
I pretty much agree with Perry at this point. There’s no reason to keep him down except that they’d prefer to bring him up against the Pirates midweek because that is an easier jump in competition from AAA than the Reds. That makes a little bit of sense because the Reds do have a murderous offense and their stance seems to be always error on the side of caution.
Of course, this also means err against the side of aggression and winning. Two teams more aggressive on the Super Two issue, the Reds with Mike Leake and the Giants with Buster Posey, could be two of the teams that finish a couple of games ahead of you should you contend.
Ian Desmond...because the future starts now for the Washington Nationals.
Apologies
I missed the sarcasm, I’ve been out in the sun all day :-)
Don’t forget to add the Braves and Jason Heyward to the list of “more aggressive with the Super Twos.”
Excellent, excellent point.
It’s bigger bucks for us and bigger risk/reward I suppose. Still, the conservativism with bringing him up after 6/1 indicates where the franchise priorities are.
Ian Desmond...because the future starts now for the Washington Nationals.
by souldrummer on May 30, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Just my two cents...the Braves have a shot at the wild card, and it's Bobby Cox's last season managing.
They needed to go for it. Nats aren’t competing in 2010.
Nats should take note...
so that none of their guys gets injured doing something completely unnecessary. The Nats tend to beat up on their guys who hit walk-off HRs. I think they should stop that. Major League Baseball is hard enough and the season is long enough without getting injuries from over-exuberant celebrations. People will hurt ankles and wrists sliding into bases or break legs from crashing into walls in the OF. That’s an unfortunate but unavoidable part of the game.
But they can avoid celebration injuries. Accept the risks that are there and avoid taking dumb risks.
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The Washington Nationals, the team of the 2010s!
Strasburg looked good
I only saw an inning of the minor league broadcast last night. Strasburg looked like a quality Major League pitcher, mixing up his pitches and throwing some nasty curve balls to go along with the well-known heat.
I don’t know the specifics of the so-called “W” arm angle in his delivery that supposedly signals possible future shoulder injury but other than that, he seems to be ready to join the big league team.
As for the timing, I don’t think it’ll make a big difference whether he’s here in early June or closer to mid-June. He’ll be here soon enough. The Nats are a respectable team this year but they still don’t have quite enough to challenge for a division title. Strasburg could be a nice boost but it’s probably better that they don’t anoint him the savior in his rookie season. Over the next 6 weeks, the Nats could also have Chien-Ming Wang. Olsen and Detwiler will be available at some point too. So Strasburg and those pitchers could plug the leaks in the rotation. That won’t take care of the situation on offense though. Maybe Desmond goes to leadoff and Morgan gets moved down to 8th. Or to the bench.
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One more minor league start on June 3rd as of announcements just coming out...
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Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on May 30, 2010 2:57 PM EDT reply actions
I wonder if the Nats will milk it for a couple days after that start before they announce his MLB start. Will he get five or six days of rest?
If they don't announce it immediately after his next start...
…they deserve some heat. Really at this point, it would be kind and considerate to say “his schedule calls for his next start to be on June 8 barring unforseen weather” or something to that affect.
They don’t have to do that but they have a PR problems they are in denial about right now.
Ian Desmond...because the future starts now for the Washington Nationals.
The best you got on twitter was Zuckerman saying "extrapolate things out from there"...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on May 30, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I think they'll announce it the day after...just like they did today.
The tough part will be announcing who will get bumped out of the majors.
Who do we think is in the running? Atilano, Martin, Stammen? Will Olsen be better? Will a bullpen guy get cut?
These questions will be answered on the next episode of As the Rotation Turns.
Okay, so we now know he’s going to make one more start in AAA.
Now, if they lose out on the pennant by one game I’m going to be pissed!
(just kidding)
My goal for 2010 is still to not finish in last place in the East.
That seems like a realistic goal.
My goal is a bit more vague...
…I’d like them to be in the conversation deep into the season for the division or wildcard, finish at 75+ wins (solely because Stras is shut down) or finish .500 above. More than that, I’d like to see the permanent parts of the plan cement their status. Desmond busting out, beating expectations from the young starters like Stammen, and Morgan or Bernie having a strong year going forward would help balance out some losing stretches.
Ian Desmond...because the future starts now for the Washington Nationals.
I've got to believe Zuckerman is out of the speculation business
He was certainly one of the 6/4 lobbyists. He used things like “logic” and “common sense” and “trying to win more games” and “maximizing appearances for fans”. Silly man.
Ian Desmond...because the future starts now for the Washington Nationals.

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