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Wire Taps: 8 Days Til No More Washington Nationals/Adam Dunn Rumors.

ESPN.com's Buster Olney hears things. Every once in a while he Tweets about them. The last time the subject of such Twitter messages was the Washington Nationalsbig middle-of-the-order bat, Adam Dunn, Mr. Olney wrote a fairly long "Twitlonger"-worthy series of messages which explained, to simplify for brevity's sake, that, "Would-be free agent Adam Dunn has just about lost interest in working out a long-term deal with the Nationals." In a Washington Post Nationals Journal article by Adam Kilgore which followed, entitled, "Adam Dunn says he hasn't changed view on contract talks", Mr. Kilgore linked to Mr. Olney's reports when writing:

"Adam Dunn denied the recent suggestion that his desire to sign an extension with the Nationals has waned because the negotiations have lingered so deep into the season."

This afternoon's tweets by Mr. Olney about Dunn, however, we're echoed by at least one other national baseball writer, which doesn't make them any more credible, really, since neither cites an identified source, but since both Mr. Olney and FOXSports.com's Ken Rosenthal are reporting the same information, here it is: 

@Buster_ESPN - "Heard this: The Nationals may attempt to complete talks with Adam Dunn in the next eight days, and if they can't do it, they'll move him."

FOXSports.com's Ken Rosenthal mentions Dunn...

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FOXSports.com's Ken Rosenthal mentions Dunn this afternoon in an article intriguingly entitled, "Nationals may be playing risky game with Dunn ", in which Mr. Rosenthal writes that, "The Nationals could be playing a dangerous game with first baseman Adam Dunn,":

"Some in the industry believe the team might offer Dunn a new contract just before the July 31 non-waiver deadline, then trade him if he rejects the deal."

Which is essentially the same thing ESPN.com's Jayson Stark wrote yesterday in a section of his article entitled, "Call it simply a 'mediocre' starter market", which was subtitled, "Dunn deal", and quoted a rather unique variation from the source sobriquet wheel, the "baseball man":

"According to one baseball man familiar with those discussions, it has everything to do with the club trying to establish whether it can either get Dunn signed to an extension this month or at least come to a mutual agreement on what it would take to get him signed."

The Nationals, as they have under the Kasten/Rizzo regime through all the free agent and trade talk that's surfaced, have remained, "predictably mum" as the Post's Mr. Kilgore (@adamkilgoreWP) put it in a tweet of his own this afternoon in which the Nats' trade deadline mantra is once again given voice:

"Stan Kasten predictably mum re #Nats' trade deadline plans. Said Mike Rizzo is 'considering any possibility' and will 'cover any ground.'"

The Nats' front office isn't giving up any info, get used to it. Rizzo's Front Office is leak proof...and I'm with Adam Dunn, this has all grown tedious. (ed. note - "Pronounced 'teed-yus" like Van Dyke Parks says it.") Did I mention that Dunn's also on the San Francisco Giants' wish list? An unnamed "source" tells FOXSports.com's Jon Morosi, "...#Giants remain interested in Hart and DeJesus, with Dunn and Cantu also on their list..." July 31st can't come soon enough.

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This can't end soon enough

I am really tired of waiting to see what happens with the trade deadline. It all just needs to end.

by David Huzzard on Jul 23, 2010 4:14 PM EDT reply actions  

There will always be something that the noise factory will breathlessly pore over

If not the non-waiver trade deadline, then the signing deadline, then the Sep 1 deadline, then the discussion of who gets offered arbitration, then who accepts it, who the team lets become free agents, then who gets moved at the winter meetings, then how the arbitration cases get settled, then the February meetings, then the…. blah blah blah. I’m interested, but I’m not losing any sleep over it all in any way, fashion, or form.

Rob

"No matter what I talk about, I always get back to baseball."
—Connie Mack

by RobBobS on Jul 23, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love trade deadline time. Seriously. Players moving teams, prospects, rumors. It’s a good time.

Why not us? Why not now?

by Expos4 on Jul 23, 2010 5:02 PM EDT reply actions  

It's better when you're discussing deals...

…like the Excobar/Alex Gonzalez trade than speculation, where people are spreading nonsense on the internet.

On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.

by souldrummer on Jul 23, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Olney I like.....

Ken Rosenthal? He just always seems to have something against the Nats….don’t like the guy at all. Unless I have missed them all, I have never seen him write anything positive about the Nationals…..but then again, I don’t follow Fox Sports very closely; I am more of an ESPN disciple.

by sullyzz on Jul 23, 2010 5:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Don't do either one.

Most of the stuff I reads links to Jayson Stark’s and Buster Olney’s better stuff.

On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.

by souldrummer on Jul 23, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look what a O's fan said on the DC sports bog:

“DAN STEINBERG: You are no different than the so called "Nats" fans who reside in DC. Nats fans love to bash the O’s, but guess what?? The Nats SUCK. They SUCK worse than the O’s. They got swept by the O’s. Talk about records all you want. Let’s have the Nats and O’s switch divisions and see what the respective records would be. The O’s play in the best division in baseball, the Nats play in pathetic NL East. The Nats are not contenders, and will not be for wuite sometime. The O’s will be contenders long before the Nats will. Any logical baseball fan knows this. All of you "Nats" fans were probably wearing Oriole hats 5 years ago anyways, losers. And Nats stadium doesn’t even hold a candle to Camden Yards.”

by rachel216 on Jul 23, 2010 5:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Orioles are not worth our time.

They’re the worst team in the league and that division hasn’t stopped the Rays from finding a way to compete.

On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.

by souldrummer on Jul 23, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was not wearing an O's cap....

And to call the NL East pathetic pretty much invalidates this person’s opinion in my mind…

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 23, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wrote him a response and asked him to explain why he believed the O's would become a contender before the Nats:

Do all you Nats fans live in lala land?? NEWS FLASH: The Nats are 14.5 games out of first place (in LAST PLACE), and they play in one of the weakest divisions in baseball. They built a shiny new stadium, and still struggle to fill it. How’s that for the "state of baseball" in DC??

I live in DC (have so my whole my life), but I remain an O’s fan for life, because that is who I grew up rooting for. It’s something called loyalty, something that most of the transplants in this town know nothing about. All of you baboons just jumped on the Nats wagon as soon as they arrived.

And yes, the O’s WILL be contenders before the Nats. Jones, Markickass, Wieters, Bell, Matusz, etc. That is a core of young talent that will be around for years to come. Who’s the Nats hopes riding on? A guy who plays one out every five games?? Give me a break. Oh wait, I forgot Willie Harris and Nyjer Morgan LOL!!!

Again, the O’s play in the best in division in baseball by FAR. If the Nats were in the AL East, they would have the worst record in baseball too.

You Nats fans just can’t seem to grasp the notion that you team sucks, so you enjoy making wise cracks about the O’s.

by rachel216 on Jul 23, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's a lot of stupid posters on the interwebs. There are far more of them on WaPo comments and Natsinsider comments...

…where they can post more anonymously. Getting riled about folks on the interwebs is a recipe for frustration and like I said, I try to avoid the confrontations and spend more time learning from the positive cats here and even some of the more debating ones.

On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.

by souldrummer on Jul 23, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

You have to love it

O’s fans are so amusing to me. They have some serious diehards that just don’t let anything rain on their parade while if you look around the internet this is one of the more positive Nats sites out there and I don’t think anyone here expected the Nats to contend. The O’s fans before this season began had this entire the time is now feeling. I don’t want to watch them suffer but guys like this make it almost too fun not to. I also was not in an O’s hat five years ago as I have always been from this area and when I was a kid I couldn’t understand why this city didn’t have a baseball team.

by David Huzzard on Jul 23, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

The original knucklehead posted on DC Sports Bog

There are idiot fans of all stripes in WaPo threads. On SBNation, people generally check you if you start saying stupid things on a consistent basis.

On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.

by souldrummer on Jul 23, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

DC sports bog, DC!!!!

I mean what does he expect? It’s a DC sports blog. And I totally agree with you, I’m starting to get away from posting at my usual sites (caps insider, redskins insider) just because a lot of the people just like to bicker and call people names. On SBNation, there are real intelligent people (esp. on this blog) who engage in good sports talk and debates. I feel like it’s always just arguing over at the WaPost sports blogs.

by rachel216 on Jul 23, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's posting there becasue he wants to fight.

Troll, troll, troll. And as always don’t feed the trolls.

On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.

by souldrummer on Jul 23, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

The guy just seems so bitter.

I know the O’s fans loved to bash the Nats so I’m wondering why they’re taking it so seriously. It was just some laughter at the O’s and the O’s fans get so defensive…

by rachel216 on Jul 23, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's a lot of good O's fans as well..

…and they have to feel under siege as a year where they were supposed to get better is a year where they’ve gotten much worse. I think Taillon (consensus no. 1 for next year) got hurt as well, adding to the misery with some doubts about how healthy he’ll be. But again, if I want to get opposing fan’s viewpoints, I check out other sites around SBNation.

On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.

by souldrummer on Jul 23, 2010 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Markickass"?

He’s an above-average RF, but “kick-ass”? I don’t think so. That 1.5 WAR is certainly nothing to write home about, or crow about on some blog.

Rob

"No matter what I talk about, I always get back to baseball."
—Connie Mack

by RobBobS on Jul 23, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

HAH.

Markickass = 6 HR and 31 RBI. WOW, that’s impressive. They have a FEW good players…. Markakis was really good last year and Jones is pretty good, I’ll give them that. I don’t know if their so-called (core of young talent, according to that man) is all that great…

by rachel216 on Jul 23, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good player...

….bad year. It’s been a bad, bad year for the Orioles and everything that can go wrong has gone wrong. Take away Capps, Bernadina, and most of Dunn’s production and we are starting to get to some of the things that have gone wrong for them. But it’s got to be very frustrating for them that their starters like Matusz haven’t made the next jump.

On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.

by souldrummer on Jul 23, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, the Orioles.....

currently the team where former Cub players’ careers go to die. :)

"Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?"--The Brain

by brook on Jul 23, 2010 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Go print that as a comment to this O's fan's nonsense, that'll get him worked up...

I am a big Adam Jones fan though….

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 23, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely thought the same when I saw that note...

If nothing else, one less outfielder out there changes the landscape….

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jul 23, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Were there teams who were really looking at both, though?

Maybe the Giants, I guess. I also wasn’t clear that Royals were going to trade him. He’s another guy that may be more valuable to them than other people because he was homegrown and successful, one of the few guys fans could connect to. Feel so bad for the Royals because even when they are starting to take some steps forward and have positive choices they get taken away from them.

On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.

by souldrummer on Jul 23, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

The main team in the DeJesus sweepstakes was the Red Sox

Who have no use for Dunn, what with Ortiz and Youk playing the likely positions Dunb would play.

by The Herndon Kid on Jul 24, 2010 10:41 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I heard...in my dreams...that both Buster Olney AND Ken Rosenthal

are on the trading blocks for a bag of #2 pencils, a couple of ball point pens and, if negotiations continue, a used scoring book.

It may not be true, but that’s what I heard.

Remind me again why anyone is paying attention to them.

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lampposts - for support rather than for illumination."
Andrew Lang

by MissB on Jul 23, 2010 7:26 PM EDT reply actions  

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