Wire Taps: UPDATED: Washington Nationals Trade Cristian Guzman To Texas Rangers For Tanner Roark, Ryan Tatusko.
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 30, 2010 3:34 PM EDT
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• INF Cristian Guzman To Rangers for RHP's Tanner Roark and Ryan Tatusko.
One of the original Washington Nationals in 2005, and one of the first free agents to choose the nation's capital as a destination, infielder Cristian Guzman's tenure with the Nats' ended this afternoon when, according to MLB.com's Bill Ladson, he was traded to the Texas Rangers in return for prospects who have yet to be identified. The Guzzzzzzz is gone...what's next....
Guzman, who is in the last year of a 2-year/$16M dollar deal signed back when Jim Bowden was the Nats' GM, was thought to be untradeable at the beginning of the season because of the high price tag, and there's no word yet on who will be responsible for the remainder of his contract or what the Nats will receive in return...
More news when it's available...
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Awesome news.
Even without knowing whom the Nats got, I’m happy to see Cristian “the albatross” Guzman gone. I trust Rizzo got someone the Nats needed. Maybe more playing time for Gonzalez?
by John Quinn on Jul 30, 2010 3:41 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
So long, Mr. Attitude.
I can’t say I’m sorry to see him go, but I’d like to know what we’re getting in return. In due time, I guess.
heal, Lulu, heal!
HOLY CRAP...
Somebody on twitter just made the observation that made my day… NO MORE GUUUUUUUZZZZZMMMMMAAAAAHHHHHNNNNNNN on the introductions. I muted every single time he came to bat.
Oh, if there was only a way to do that at the stadium...
Rob
"Ninety feet between home plate and first base may be the closest man has ever come to perfection." -- Red Smith
Eh, I didn't mind it so much.
My only problem is that Guuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuzman helped keep him a fan favorite beyond the point where his production warranted it.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
Incredible.
The Nats will probably be able to use that extra bucket of balls, too!
Rob
"Ninety feet between home plate and first base may be the closest man has ever come to perfection." -- Red Smith
We're getting two pitching prospects in return
Strasburgeddon approaches, the savior is almost here.
by StrasburgSavior on Jul 30, 2010 4:20 PM EDT reply actions
Here's the checklist:
1. Trade Dunn for ML-ready/high impact prospects
2. Trade AK-47/Willie Harris/Livo(?) for whatever we can get
3. Sign Adam Everett to play 2B/SS
Strasburgeddon approaches, the savior is almost here.
by StrasburgSavior on Jul 30, 2010 4:21 PM EDT reply actions
I'll look him up....hold
Strasburgeddon approaches, the savior is almost here.
by StrasburgSavior on Jul 30, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Drafted by the Texas Rangers in the 18th round of the 2007 MLB June Amateur Draft.
Strasburgeddon approaches, the savior is almost here.
by StrasburgSavior on Jul 30, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Has a 2.97 ERA with Frisco in AA ball.
"Imagine if you go see Mrs. Universe, then you end up having Mrs. Iowa. Then you might get those kind of boos." - Miguel Batista
by Steck It Out on Jul 30, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha I've heard of this kid due to his apparent bromance with teammate Schlact
I’ll try and find something on it
Sunshine will come to Nats Park, I promise.
Having a solid year at AA
9-2, 2.97 ERA over 100 innings. Not a strikeout guy, however, he has 50K/40BB
Strasburgeddon approaches, the savior is almost here.
by StrasburgSavior on Jul 30, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Also has a Twitter account!
"Imagine if you go see Mrs. Universe, then you end up having Mrs. Iowa. Then you might get those kind of boos." - Miguel Batista
by Steck It Out on Jul 30, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
From his account...
“Got a really weird feeling right now like something is gonna happen.”
I will not be doing the GameThread tonight, as I had trouble getting loose beforehand.
by Nationalpastime9 on Jul 30, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Hahaha yeah second result on google lol
Rizzo's Checklist:
1. Trade Adam Dunn for high-impact/ML-ready prospects [ ]
1a. If not, trade Josh Willingham [ ]
1b. Bring up Justin Maxwell to replace Morse as 4th OF, Morse to play 1B
2. Trade Matt Capps [x]
3. Trade Livo [ ]/AK47 [ ]/TAWH [ ]/Guz [x] for anything
4. Trade for E-Jax [ ]
by StrasburgSavior on Jul 30, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks, just fixed it, added Everett
Any other suggestions?
Rizzo's Checklist:
1. Trade Adam Dunn for high-impact/ML-ready prospects [ ]
1a. If not, trade Josh Willingham [ ]
1b. Bring up Justin Maxwell to replace Morse as 4th OF, Morse to play 1B
2. Trade Matt Capps [x]
3. Trade Livo [ ]/AK47 [ ]/TAWH [ ]/Guz [x] for anything
4. Trade for E-Jax [ ]
5. Sign Adam Everett to play SS/2B [ ]
by StrasburgSavior on Jul 30, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I really do not want E-Jax...
Gives me sorta a Daniel Cabrera vibe…
I will not be doing the GameThread tonight, as I had trouble getting loose beforehand.
by Nationalpastime9 on Jul 30, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep...
Actually I used Bing…
I will not be doing the GameThread tonight, as I had trouble getting loose beforehand.
by Nationalpastime9 on Jul 30, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
LOS LINKS!!!!!!!!!!!
Rizzo's Checklist:
1. Trade Adam Dunn for high-impact/ML-ready prospects [ ]
1a. If not, trade Josh Willingham [ ]
1b. Bring up Justin Maxwell to replace Morse as 4th OF, Morse to play 1B
2. Trade Matt Capps [x]
3. Trade Livo [ ]/AK47 [ ]/TAWH [ ]/Guz [x] for anything
4. Trade for E-Jax [ ]
5. Sign Adam Everett to play SS/2B [ ]
by StrasburgSavior on Jul 30, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Do not trade Adam Dunn!
Rob
"Ninety feet between home plate and first base may be the closest man has ever come to perfection." -- Red Smith
Andrei Kirilenko?
I fed a fish to a pelican and Frisco bay and he tried to eat my cell phone he ran away
Adam Kennedy.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
by souldrummer on Jul 30, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Here's the return on Guzman...
RHP Ryan Tatusko: ’07 18th Round pick.
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 30, 2010 4:33 PM EDT reply actions
Grizz already beat you to it.
Rizzo's Checklist:
1. Trade Adam Dunn for high-impact/ML-ready prospects [ ]
1a. If not, trade Josh Willingham [ ]
1b. Bring up Justin Maxwell to replace Morse as 4th OF, Morse to play 1B
2. Trade Matt Capps [x]
3. Trade Livo [ ]/AK47 [ ]/TAWH [ ]/Guz [x] for anything
4. Trade for E-Jax [ ]
5. Sign Adam Everett to play SS/2B [ ]
by StrasburgSavior on Jul 30, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Not a race...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 30, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Just giving Grizz his props, apologies.
Am I the only one who thinks they should sign Adam “Vacuum Glove” Everett?
Rizzo's Checklist:
1. Trade Adam Dunn for high-impact/ML-ready prospects [ ]
1a. If not, trade Josh Willingham [ ]
1b. Bring up Justin Maxwell to replace Morse as 4th OF, Morse to play 1B
2. Trade Matt Capps [x]
3. Trade Livo [ ]/AK47 [ ]/TAWH [ ]/Guz [x] for anything
4. Trade for E-Jax [ ]
5. Sign Adam Everett to play SS/2B [ ]
by StrasburgSavior on Jul 30, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
His defense is AMAZING, which is something the Natty’s need right now.
Rizzo's Checklist:
1. Trade Adam Dunn for high-impact/ML-ready prospects [ ]
1a. If not, trade Josh Willingham [ ]
1b. Bring up Justin Maxwell to replace Morse as 4th OF, Morse to play 1B
2. Trade Matt Capps [x]
3. Trade Livo [ ]/AK47 [ ]/TAWH [ ]/Guz [x] for anything
4. Trade for E-Jax [ ]
5. Sign Adam Everett to play SS/2B [ ]
by StrasburgSavior on Jul 30, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
How much $?
"Inconceivable!"
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
-The Princess Bride
How's he hit?
"Inconceivable!"
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
-The Princess Bride
Not too well, low .200s, but the glove is other-worldly
Rizzo's Checklist:
1. Trade Adam Dunn for high-impact/ML-ready prospects [ ]
1a. If not, trade Josh Willingham [ ]
1b. Bring up Justin Maxwell to replace Morse as 4th OF, Morse to play 1B
2. Trade Matt Capps [x]
3. Trade Livo [ ]/AK47 [ ]/TAWH [ ]/Guz [x] for anything
4. Trade for E-Jax [ ]
5. Sign Adam Everett to play SS/2B [ ]
by StrasburgSavior on Jul 30, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think we need the infielder equivalent of Wil Nieves.
"Inconceivable!"
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
-The Princess Bride
See below
Rizzo's Checklist:
1. Trade Adam Dunn for high-impact/ML-ready prospects [ ]
1a. If not, trade Josh Willingham [ ]
1b. Bring up Justin Maxwell to replace Morse as 4th OF, Morse to play 1B
2. Trade Matt Capps [x]
3. Trade Livo [ ]/AK47 [ ]/TAWH [ ]/Guz [x] for anything
4. Trade for E-Jax [ ]
5. Sign Adam Everett to play SS/2B [ ]
by StrasburgSavior on Jul 30, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Career AVG: .243, wOBA: .284, UZR: 14.9
Rizzo's Checklist:
1. Trade Adam Dunn for high-impact/ML-ready prospects [ ]
1a. If not, trade Josh Willingham [ ]
1b. Bring up Justin Maxwell to replace Morse as 4th OF, Morse to play 1B
2. Trade Matt Capps [x]
3. Trade Livo [ ]/AK47 [ ]/TAWH [ ]/Guz [x] for anything
4. Trade for E-Jax [ ]
5. Sign Adam Everett to play SS/2B [ ]
by StrasburgSavior on Jul 30, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, phenomenal glove.
Only problem is he only has 1 inning at 2B for his career lol. But I’d rather have him playing SS and Dessie playing 2B for the rest of the year.
Rizzo's Checklist:
1. Trade Adam Dunn for high-impact/ML-ready prospects [ ]
1a. If not, trade Josh Willingham [ ]
1b. Bring up Justin Maxwell to replace Morse as 4th OF, Morse to play 1B
2. Trade Matt Capps [x]
3. Trade Livo [ ]/AK47 [ ]/TAWH [ ]/Guz [x] for anything
4. Trade for E-Jax [ ]
5. Sign Adam Everett to play SS/2B [ ]
by StrasburgSavior on Jul 30, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Or give Espinosa an extra year in the minors
To avoid rushing him.
"Inconceivable!"
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
-The Princess Bride
Exactly. Or two years, no need to rush him.
Assuming we sign Orlando Hudson
Rizzo's Checklist:
1. Trade Adam Dunn for high-impact/ML-ready prospects [ ]
1a. If not, trade Josh Willingham [ ]
1b. Bring up Justin Maxwell to replace Morse as 4th OF, Morse to play 1B
2. Trade Matt Capps [x]
3. Trade Livo [ ]/AK47 [ ]/TAWH [ ]/Guz [x] for anything
4. Trade for E-Jax [ ]
5. Sign Adam Everett to play SS/2B [ ]
by StrasburgSavior on Jul 30, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty impressive, that.
The hitting’s a little low for my tastes, but not terrible. I’d prefer to bump each of those two numbers up about 10 points and I’d be happy.
"Inconceivable!"
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
-The Princess Bride
14.9 sorry
Rizzo's Checklist:
1. Trade Adam Dunn for high-impact/ML-ready prospects [ ]
1a. If not, trade Josh Willingham [ ]
1b. Bring up Justin Maxwell to replace Morse as 4th OF, Morse to play 1B
2. Trade Matt Capps [x]
3. Trade Livo [ ]/AK47 [ ]/TAWH [ ]/Guz [x] for anything
4. Trade for E-Jax [ ]
5. Sign Adam Everett to play SS/2B [ ]
by StrasburgSavior on Jul 30, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Still solid
But I’ll pass on a Mendoza-line afterthought, thanks
Sunshine will come to Nats Park, I promise.
I'd suck it up and take it, I mean Dessie's wOBAing .300
Rizzo's Checklist:
1. Trade Adam Dunn for high-impact/ML-ready prospects [ ]
1a. If not, trade Josh Willingham [ ]
1b. Bring up Justin Maxwell to replace Morse as 4th OF, Morse to play 1B
2. Trade Matt Capps [x]
3. Trade Livo [ ]/AK47 [ ]/TAWH [ ]/Guz [x] for anything
4. Trade for E-Jax [ ]
5. Sign Adam Everett to play SS/2B [ ]
by StrasburgSavior on Jul 30, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
And how much better than him will AK47 be
Rizzo's Checklist:
1. Trade Adam Dunn for high-impact/ML-ready prospects [ ]
1a. If not, trade Josh Willingham [ ]
1b. Bring up Justin Maxwell to replace Morse as 4th OF, Morse to play 1B
2. Trade Matt Capps [x]
3. Trade Livo [ ]/AK47 [ ]/TAWH [ ]/Guz [x] for anything
4. Trade for E-Jax [ ]
5. Sign Adam Everett to play SS/2B [ ]
by StrasburgSavior on Jul 30, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
pass
big time… its always so curious to me that the defense guys who cant hit gt a pass while the offense guys who cant play defense face ex communication.
the guy’s career OPS+ is 66, that’s Rey Ordonez territory, folks.
offensively
we are talking a 20 point difference in OPS+ between Kennedy and Everett…. And Kennedy can’t hit… see what i’m gettin at? It would essentially be like having a pitcher who can play defense.
That's what all 'second-place posters' say.
;-)
Rob
"Ninety feet between home plate and first base may be the closest man has ever come to perfection." -- Red Smith
heh, If I was first, i would've been like "IN YOUR FACE!! 1ST 1ST!!!!
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 30, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I though Bowden said there were two prospects???
I will not be doing the GameThread tonight, as I had trouble getting loose beforehand.
by Nationalpastime9 on Jul 30, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Ladson said there is one more prospect, he's trying to find out...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 30, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll be roaming Twitter for when he does find out...
I will not be doing the GameThread tonight, as I had trouble getting loose beforehand.
by Nationalpastime9 on Jul 30, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Write up on Guzz from Fangraphs, nice shout out to Rizzo
For Washington, they’re capitalizing on an aggressive market that is lacking in the available stars of recent years. After snagging Wilson Ramos from Minnesota for Matt Capps, the prospects they get back from Texas could be pretty good considering that the Rangers are overpaying in farm talent for salary relief in lieu of their recent bankruptcy. However, we’ll wait and see if the bigger dominoes (Adam Dunn and Josh Willingham) fall before tomorrow’s deadline.
Rizzo's Checklist:
1. Trade Adam Dunn for high-impact/ML-ready prospects [ ]
1a. If not, trade Josh Willingham [ ]
1b. Bring up Justin Maxwell to replace Morse as 4th OF, Morse to play 1B
2. Trade Matt Capps [x]
3. Trade Livo [ ]/AK47 [ ]/TAWH [ ]/Guz [x] for anything
4. Trade for E-Jax [ ]
5. Sign Adam Everett to play SS/2B [ ]
by StrasburgSavior on Jul 30, 2010 4:33 PM EDT reply actions
Off to the park, Y'all.
I’ll check in postgame. LET’S GO NATS!!!!
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
Have a good one
Rizzo's Checklist:
1. Trade Adam Dunn for high-impact/ML-ready prospects [ ]
1a. If not, trade Josh Willingham [ ]
1b. Bring up Justin Maxwell to replace Morse as 4th OF, Morse to play 1B
2. Trade Matt Capps [x]
3. Trade Livo [ ]/AK47 [ ]/TAWH [ ]/Guz [x] for anything
4. Trade for E-Jax [ ]
5. Sign Adam Everett to play SS/2B [ ]
by StrasburgSavior on Jul 30, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't let those Philly fans steal your beer money, Souldrummer....
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 30, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Anybody got any suggestions for teh CHECKLIST?
Rizzo's Checklist:
1. Trade Adam Dunn for high-impact/ML-ready prospects [ ]
1a. If not, trade Josh Willingham [ ]
1b. Bring up Justin Maxwell to replace Morse as 4th OF, Morse to play 1B
2. Trade Matt Capps [x]
3. Trade Livo [ ]/AK47 [ ]/TAWH [ ]/Guz [x] for anything
4. Trade for E-Jax [ ]
5. Sign Adam Everett to play SS/2B [ ]
by StrasburgSavior on Jul 30, 2010 4:42 PM EDT reply actions
other than DFA Nieves lol
Rizzo's Checklist:
1. Trade Adam Dunn for high-impact/ML-ready prospects [ ]
1a. If not, trade Josh Willingham [ ]
1b. Bring up Justin Maxwell to replace Morse as 4th OF, Morse to play 1B
2. Trade Matt Capps [x]
3. Trade Livo [ ]/AK47 [ ]/TAWH [ ]/Guz [x] for anything
4. Trade for E-Jax [ ]
5. Sign Adam Everett to play SS/2B [ ]
by StrasburgSavior on Jul 30, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Trade AK47, if we can.
Rizzo's Checklist:
1. Trade Adam Dunn for high-impact/ML-ready prospects [ ]
1a. If not, trade Josh Willingham [ ]
1b. Bring up Justin Maxwell to replace Morse as 4th OF, Morse to play 1B
2. Trade Matt Capps [x]
3. Trade Livo [ ]/AK47 [ ]/TAWH [ ]/Guz [x] for anything
4. Trade for E-Jax [ ]
5. Sign Adam Everett to play SS/2B [ ]
by StrasburgSavior on Jul 30, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Take Livo off the list.
Make 3a./3b./etc. for prospects for Guz.
"Inconceivable!"
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
-The Princess Bride
Ah, Livo...
Rizzo's Checklist:
1. Trade Adam Dunn for high-impact/ML-ready prospects [ ]
1a. If not, trade Josh Willingham [ ]
1b. Bring up Justin Maxwell to replace Morse as 4th OF, Morse to play 1B
2. Trade Matt Capps [x]
3. Trade Livo [ ]/AK47 [ ]/TAWH [ ]/Guz [x] for anything
4. Trade for E-Jax [ ]
5. Sign Adam Everett to play SS/2B [ ]
by StrasburgSavior on Jul 30, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Make Stephen Strasburg Hindu shrine at base of Washington Monument
"Imagine if you go see Mrs. Universe, then you end up having Mrs. Iowa. Then you might get those kind of boos." - Miguel Batista
by Steck It Out on Jul 30, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course, how could I forget!
Rizzo's Checklist:
1. Trade Adam Dunn for high-impact/ML-ready prospects [ ]
1a. If not, trade Josh Willingham [ ]
1b. Bring up Justin Maxwell to replace Morse as 4th OF, Morse to play 1B
2. Trade Matt Capps [x]
3. Trade Livo [ ]/AK47 [ ]/TAWH [ ]/Guz [x] for anything
4. Trade for E-Jax [ ]
5. Sign Adam Everett to play SS/2B [ ]
by StrasburgSavior on Jul 30, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Berkman may be traded soon
Held out of tonight’s lineup…really hope the Yanks don’t get him, I always liked Berkman.
"Imagine if you go see Mrs. Universe, then you end up having Mrs. Iowa. Then you might get those kind of boos." - Miguel Batista
Tanner Roark? Ladson just posted...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 30, 2010 4:48 PM EDT reply actions
Tanner SCHEPPERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rizzo's Checklist:
1. Trade Adam Dunn for high-impact/ML-ready prospects [ ]
1a. If not, trade Josh Willingham [ ]
1b. Bring up Justin Maxwell to replace Morse as 4th OF, Morse to play 1B
2. Trade Matt Capps [x]
3. Trade Livo [ ]/AK47 [ ]/TAWH [ ]/Guz [x] for anything
4. Trade for E-Jax [ ]
5. Sign Adam Everett to play SS/2B [ ]
by StrasburgSavior on Jul 30, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Ahhh, I wish. What a fireballer.
"Imagine if you go see Mrs. Universe, then you end up having Mrs. Iowa. Then you might get those kind of boos." - Miguel Batista
by Steck It Out on Jul 30, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Roark...
’08 25th Round pick, 23-year-old RHP…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 30, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
A+ ERA: 3.93, AA ERA: 4.26
Rizzo's Checklist:
1. Trade Adam Dunn for high-impact/ML-ready prospects [ ]
1a. If not, trade Josh Willingham [ ]
1b. Bring up Justin Maxwell to replace Morse as 4th OF, Morse to play 1B
2. Trade Matt Capps [x]
3. Trade Livo [ ]/AK47 [ ]/TAWH [ ]/Guz [x] for anything
4. Trade for E-Jax [ ]
5. Sign Adam Everett to play SS/2B [ ]
by StrasburgSavior on Jul 30, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
*2.93
Rizzo's Checklist:
1. Trade Adam Dunn for high-impact/ML-ready prospects [ ]
1a. If not, trade Josh Willingham [ ]
1b. Bring up Justin Maxwell to replace Morse as 4th OF, Morse to play 1B
2. Trade Matt Capps [x]
3. Trade Livo [ ]/AK47 [ ]/TAWH [ ]/Guz [x] for anything
4. Trade for E-Jax [ ]
5. Sign Adam Everett to play SS/2B [ ]
by StrasburgSavior on Jul 30, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
WHIP? K/BB? K/9? BB/9?
"Inconceivable!"
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
-The Princess Bride
Another player from AA Frisco.
Stats!
"Imagine if you go see Mrs. Universe, then you end up having Mrs. Iowa. Then you might get those kind of boos." - Miguel Batista
by Steck It Out on Jul 30, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
not bad at all
thats who we got for Guz? They already overpaid
No he's a good pitcher and pitched well at Illinois for two years
But I don’t like Big 10 baseball very much, that is, if it exists
Sunshine will come to Nats Park, I promise.
Shut your mouth, at least we've churn out good NFL players in the past decade
And UVA football means very little to me. I’ve been a USC holder since like 8.
Sunshine will come to Nats Park, I promise.
Two of'em...
RHP Ryan Tatusko: ’07 18th Round pick.
Tanner Roark RHP…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 30, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
sounds like a steal to me
The fact that a team actually gave up capable prospects for Guzman makes my head hurt.
Oh noes....don't like the sound of it even if it signifies nothing...
“Adam Dunn said he would be comfortable becoming a DH for the rest of this year. “It’s just two months,” he said.
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 30, 2010 4:52 PM EDT reply actions
look, if he has to go
Please not the Whitesox, if he helps Ozzie Guillen win a championship I won’t be able to forgive him.
Seeing as Kenny just traded his biggest chip in Hudson, I don’t think a Dunn trade to Chicago is likely.
"Imagine if you go see Mrs. Universe, then you end up having Mrs. Iowa. Then you might get those kind of boos." - Miguel Batista
by Steck It Out on Jul 30, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldnt mind seeing him as a ynkee if it came to that
he’s a great hitter and deserves a shot to play in a world series.
Would much rather see him
beat the yanks than be a yank. Hoping if he goes its to tampa, thats where the better prospects are also.
rizzo is god
although tatusko> roark, it looks like Rizzo has made another excellent trade
He's done some good stuff with the smaller pieces, here.
Let’s hope he doesn’t foul up the big pieces—either sign ’em or trade for nothing less than the proverbial PHAT LEWTZ
"And everybody lived happily ever after. Except the Phillies and the Mets. The End." --Sasskuash
Friend of Dukes and Desmond #3
I like this trade, but I hope this is it...
I’ve been thinking that they should get rid of Capps and Guzman and just stop. Try to sign Dunn.
Also, does this mean that AK will play a lot at 2nd. My vote is for the General to play 2nd..
"We're starting to get into Plush mode," Nyjer Morgan said
I like this trade, but I hope this is it...
I’ve been thinking that they should get rid of Capps and Guzman and just stop. Try to sign Dunn.
Also, does this mean that AK will play a lot at 2nd. My vote is for the General to play 2nd..
"We're starting to get into Plush mode," Nyjer Morgan said
DTAD!!!
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 30, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Boo!
"And everybody lived happily ever after. Except the Phillies and the Mets. The End." --Sasskuash
Friend of Dukes and Desmond #3
Gotta get something to eat...
Can’t wait for the game to start so teh rumorz stop for an hour or three…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 30, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I have to ask the TAD guys a serious question...
Do you want a shot at winning this decade?
Not winning with Morse at first, Norris still years away if he has to learn position...
Marrero not ready…who plays at first when Nats are winning?
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 30, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
DTAD!!
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 30, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Why is that?
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 30, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Phat cash isn't a reason?
He’s said he likes it here and wants to stay. The dangling in front of other teams aside, I think he wouldn’t turn down a reasonable offer.
"And everybody lived happily ever after. Except the Phillies and the Mets. The End." --Sasskuash
Friend of Dukes and Desmond #3
Why would he re-sign with us if NYY or CWS offer him more money
and they are WS contenders now.
Screech's Godson
the white sox arent real contenders
theyll fade away… plus that park is playing like a cave this year, I wouldnt want to play there if i wee him
also, frank ozzie guillen
if you have a bad year he’ll be the first one to tell you how bad you suck, while pushing his retarted small ball and wondering why its been half a decade since his teams have done anything remotely resembling a successful season
Nats will keep getting closer in future seasons, I think.
ChiSox seem to be stuck as promising also-rans.
"And everybody lived happily ever after. Except the Phillies and the Mets. The End." --Sasskuash
Friend of Dukes and Desmond #3
I agree
I, for one, will be excited next season to have a great 3-4-5 in the batting order, and an above average 1-2-3 in the pitchig staff.
I promise, guys, we aren’t that far away. Dealing Dunn below his worth is pointless
well ill be putting my money where my mouth is
The nats are def an over bet in 2011 ill be taking the line. :)
Oh, I think you have to sign him if you keep him...
To be clear on that front, unless you’re OK with the 2 picks you’d get, which I’m not. I don’t want prospects for Dunn in a trade of comp, I want MLB-ready players. I’m hoping the stories of the last-minute offer are true…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 30, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Why i'm in the TAD catergory is because
I don’t think we can re-sign him in the offseason.
Screech's Godson
It'll be tough, agree. But nobody wanted him last time...
I think they sign or trade him by tomorrow if it was me.
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 30, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
If the Nats wait to the offseason, they probably can't.
I would think they’d have to sign him now to show good faith—Dunn said he wanted to stay, but no reason to antagonize him, since he also doesn’t seem to like the trading dance.
"And everybody lived happily ever after. Except the Phillies and the Mets. The End." --Sasskuash
Friend of Dukes and Desmond #3
By that logic, why would anyone?
All we can do is take his claims that he wants to stay at face value. He seems to like playing baseball with people he likes.
"And everybody lived happily ever after. Except the Phillies and the Mets. The End." --Sasskuash
Friend of Dukes and Desmond #3
No good FA has signed here!!!!
Only reason people sign here is to get a job. I.E. Capps, Kennedy.
Screech's Godson
in the future, is Morse an outfielder or a first base....
in the near future,
Hammer Bernadina Morse
Zimm Desmond ?? Dunn (hopefully)
Ramos
?
"We're starting to get into Plush mode," Nyjer Morgan said
My worry is Morse in RF with that.
While I love his current hot bat, I’m worried it wouldn’t last if he were playing every day and pitchers had a chance to adjust. And he isn’t the greatest defender. CF/RF is still a question mark for me—Nyjer/Bernie would work, we just have to cross our fingers that late-season Nyjer can become full-season Nyjer.
"And everybody lived happily ever after. Except the Phillies and the Mets. The End." --Sasskuash
Friend of Dukes and Desmond #3
then
i’m confused
A big slugger is a guy you build around, not sell off for parts that don’t equal the whole.
we are getting two above average arms back by the end of the year, giving us a better 1-2-3 than a lot of the NL…. what more do you want?
More production from the rest of the lineup?
Of course, I’m not sure how trading Dunn gets that.
"And everybody lived happily ever after. Except the Phillies and the Mets. The End." --Sasskuash
Friend of Dukes and Desmond #3
ha wll point taken
but the point is this team is drastically more competitive next year with Dunn.. or at least, it should be
If Dunn goes for just prospects
thats a sucker move, if I didnt get at least one established major leaguer who can hit there is no way…
+1, I want someone in the game Sat nite or Sunday if they deal him...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 30, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes.
There’s a sweet spot coming for fielding a competitive team, and giving up Dunn’s production means getting legit replacement for it by no later than 2012, preferably next season (or tomorrow night, as Patrick requests).
"And everybody lived happily ever after. Except the Phillies and the Mets. The End." --Sasskuash
Friend of Dukes and Desmond #3
Rizzo's aboot to go on MLB Network live from Nats Park if anyone's watching....
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 30, 2010 5:16 PM EDT reply actions
Is Dunn still at the movies?
"And everybody lived happily ever after. Except the Phillies and the Mets. The End." --Sasskuash
Friend of Dukes and Desmond #3
At the park and giving silly answers to reporters...
Says he likes White Sox unis…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 30, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
hahaha
on top of that, the guy is awesome, can we not agree on this?
Rizzo says Wilson Ramos will be Sept call-up "at least"
Kilgore quotes him saying he’s ready for Majors today.
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 30, 2010 5:32 PM EDT reply actions
Long live Wilson!
Sorry, Wil. Uh, can Tony Vega and the band stay?
"And everybody lived happily ever after. Except the Phillies and the Mets. The End." --Sasskuash
Friend of Dukes and Desmond #3
Beckham and Edwin Jackson for Dunn
I can dream ya?
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~Rogers Hornsby
that souds more like a nightmare to me
we dont need any one else to walk the ballpark, our guys have that covered.
Heh, was just looking at "related FanPosts" in the sidebar...
…a few were from last season: two talking about trading Nick Johnson (one with 50 comments, which was probably a record for a non-game-thread at the time), and another arguing to bench Guzman and start TAWH instead. Ah, memories.
"And everybody lived happily ever after. Except the Phillies and the Mets. The End." --Sasskuash
Friend of Dukes and Desmond #3
Let's face it, the real reason for the last two trades was to reduce the Nats salary level. Now Guzman for two apsiring minor leaguers for the future. At the rate the Nats are going, there is no future, at least as a contender.
Now watch who theget for Dunn. It will be either straight cash ala Yankees, or again two promising minor leaguers for the future via the White Sox. I’m sick of the penny pinching!
The Guzman trade did not reduce salary.
We gave the Rangers 2Mil in cash to obtain better prospects. The Rangers are almost bankrupt and they don’t take on salary in their deals. It’s starting to feel like they are asking for a stay of execution to make a run in the playoffs and drive up the selling price of the team.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
by souldrummer on Jul 30, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Addition by subtraction
Great move by Rizzo. Given that Tatusko is 25 and at AA ball, the context of his numbers doesn’t look quite as fantastic. H’es a Grade C prospect at best, as is Roark. I’d have thought that all they’d get was one Grade C prospect, so the return may actually be better than I would have expected.
Removing Guzman alone makes this move worth while. Like the Twins move (to a far lesser extent…. The Rangers still have an incredibly deep farm system even after giving up some good prospects for Cantu and a great one for Cliff Lee, and didn’t give up too much in this deal), I like the deal for both teams. The Rangers had been rumored to be going heavily after Dan Uggla, who would have cost them a pretty penny. Dealing for Guzman is the better option here.
A) He’s far cheaper from a trade perspective
B) They must feel comfortable that Ian Kinsler will be back soon enough (don’t think he’s far, but given their lead in the division, as long as he’s back a week or two before the playoffs to get his rhythm back, they’re fine)
C) Guzman brings more versatility than Uggla, and can spell Young at third, Andrus at SS, or Kinsler (when he’s healthy)
Solid move for both teams. I’m thinking Rizzo went the way of statistical analysis a bit more with this trade, and I think that Tatusko is the guy we’re more likely to see. He’s probably another AAAA starter down the road, but hey…. what were we expecting for Cristian Guzman?
by bluelineswinger on Jul 30, 2010 7:22 PM EDT reply actions
It's kind of like the Miggy move to San Diego, minus the expected contributions-part
He gives them cover for Kinsler in the short-term (and allows for Kinsler to try to fully shake off the ankle problems he has had), and provides a great bench presence.
Since I figure that we’re kicking in almost all of his salary for this year, I would have liked to see at least one better prospect in return though.
Sunshine will come to Nats Park, I promise.
Can't argue with that, but I wouldn't have expected it
Seems like they went for a couple of the Rangers third tier prospects instead of maybe trying to get maybe one tier two. They weren’t going to get a Scheppers or Perez by any means, but maybe a Moscoso or something.
Honestly, I think that Rizzo likes what he sees with Tatusko, and thinks that maybe he can overachieve.
by bluelineswinger on Jul 30, 2010 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I also think its a deal of teachability
Power arm = great reliever at worst, if you teach them right
Sunshine will come to Nats Park, I promise.
The Berkman deal is a bit baffling, and troubling
The rumors surrounding the situation say that the Astros are paying a huge chunk of his remaining contract AND that they’re not getting anything other than non-prospect minor leaguers in return. To the best of my knowledge, details haven’t been made public yet (perhaps because Berkman has not officially waived his no-trade clause), but you have to wonder whether the Yankees cheap acquisition of a similar (but lesser at this point in their careers) player drives the asking price on Dunn down.
Then again, it could have the reverse effect. I’ve said from the start that the Rays are the best fit both in terms of having players who can match up AND having a legitimate need for a player like Dunn. The Yankees’ acquisition of Berkman could force their hand and make them go overboard, particularly since they’re a division rival (both figure to make the playoffs, but there’s a big difference in the ALCS between having Adam Dunn and Gabe Kapler/Willie Aybar in your lineup).
The shame of the whole Berkman thing is that the word on the street is that the White Sox had a deal completed for him earlier in the day (where they presumably would have done better, though not great) and Berkman nixed it.
by bluelineswinger on Jul 30, 2010 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I say shame
Because I want no part of Edwin Jackson, and I’ll lose all the positive feelings that the Capps/Ramos trade gave me if Rizzo were crazy enough to deal Dunn (at least straight up) for Jackson. I’d have been happier getting Hudson (even if it were straight up) than Jackson.
The laugher is that the Diamondbacks probably got more for Edwin Jackson than they did for Dan Haren.
by bluelineswinger on Jul 30, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, the D'backs went from fools to jewels in a day.
I’m with you on happier for Hudson than Jackson. If the ChiSox were willing to move Hudson for EJax, you better be dead sure that EJax is at least a credible 3rd starter next year.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
by souldrummer on Jul 30, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Ray's aren't going to do anything lacking prudence
Low Tier 2 prospects at best
Sunshine will come to Nats Park, I promise.
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