Wire Taps: Washington Nationals' GM Mike Rizzo [Points To Head] Trade Deadline Edition...
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2010 2:57 PM EDT
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@Ken_Rosenthal: "Exec on Dunn: "He's not going anywhere. Bank on it." #Nationals #WhiteSox #Rays #Tigers #MLB"
3:13 pm EST UPDATE:
"@Ken_Rosenthal: "#WhiteSox still working on Dunn. Would be Jackson-plus. Source: "This thing is far from over."
3:00 - As of 2:55pm EST the Washington Nationals have not dealt their big middle-of-the-order bat Adam Dunn, but as the 4:00 pm EST Non-Waiver Deadline approaches, ESPN.com's Buster Olney (@Buster_ESPN) is reporting on Twitter that talks are ongoing:
"Heard this: The Nationals are still talking trade with several teams on Dunn, as we get closer to the deadline."
SI.com's Jon Heyman (@SI_JonHeyman) just Tweeted that the Nats and White Sox are still talking:
"[Edwin] Jackson for Dunn is still a possibility. but Nationals want #Chisox to add another player or 2"
An unnamed "source" told FOXSports.com's Jon Morosi (@jonmorosi) within the last hour that they think Dunn stays in DC, but Mr. Morosi offered the caveat at 2:00pm EST that, "...two hours is an eternity on July 31." Mr. Morosi's colleague at FOXSports.com, Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) reported earlier that there was some non-Dunn chatter going on as well, as he wrote about the Red Sox' pursuit of a left-handed reliever:
"Source: #RedSox inquired about at least 2 LH relievers today: #Rockies' Beimel, #Nationals' Burnett. Rockies' asking price too high."
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Ladson's update
It’s 3:00 pm ET. #Nats 1B Adam Dunn has entered the building and went into the clubhouse. The #Nats have not traded him — yet.
"Inconceivable!"
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
-The Princess Bride
Mr. Ladson's a funny guy...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Man, this is Alfonso Soriano all over again
Part of Pech's Posse since 2007.
by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Jul 31, 2010 3:05 PM EDT reply actions
Except I think they'll actually sign Dunn...
Two picks was fine in ‘06, but it’s time to start winning, and losing Dunn for the promise of future success will not sit well, if I might speculate as to the pulse of NatsTown…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Now Soriano was like one of my favorite Nats.
Only guy I ever bought a T-shirt for. After the offensive fail of Season 1, he was a revelation for me. I wanted them to keep him. Of course at that time, I didn’t really get the arbitration stuff or understand the value of prospects as much.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
I was all for trading Soriano
at the time, not realizing the draft picks the Nats would gain when he left via Free Agency. Soriano’s 46 bombs and 41 steals were a thing of beauty though. Soriano still hasn’t put up a better OPS anywhere else either.
I will gladly eat crow if Brandon Jones does well for the 49ers in 2010.
by Andrew Davidson on Jul 31, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
'Twas a classic salary drive
Part of Pech's Posse since 2007.
by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Jul 31, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Bill Ladson...
washingnats It’s 3:00 pm ET. #Nats 1B Adam Dunn has entered the building and went into the clubhouse. The #Nats have not traded him — yet.
I will not be doing the GameThread tonight, as I had trouble getting loose beforehand.
by Nationalpastime9 on Jul 31, 2010 3:06 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
My bad...
I will not be doing the GameThread tonight, as I had trouble getting loose beforehand.
by Nationalpastime9 on Jul 31, 2010 3:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
ninja'd. No worries.
"Inconceivable!"
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
-The Princess Bride
From BleacherReport
There’s apparent interest in Mariners’ reliever Brandon League but if League is moved, ESPN’s Jayson Stark doesn’t believe it will be to the Rays. Stark says the Rays probably will not make a move at the deadline.
If what Stark says is true, than the Adam Dunn deal is probably to the White Sox.
Earlier: The Nationals are apparently getting close to dealing Adam Dunn. Could be either the White Sox or Rays.
Rosenthal says League to Rays or Dodgers.
"Inconceivable!"
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
-The Princess Bride
From the left coast Dunn watchers...
@hankschulman: “Gmornin’. Giants still checking in on Dunn, but Nats want Sanchez or Bumgarner and Sabean is firm on not moving either. Also ….”
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2010 3:13 PM EDT reply actions
I'm just going to keep this post up and update here...
And I’ll put a note when I add something above….
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2010 3:14 PM EDT reply actions
Crafty TJL, crafty.
“I’m Adam Kennedy and I support this message.”
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
Buster suspects the Sox will try to waiver claim Manny in August.
"Inconceivable!"
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
-The Princess Bride
Rosenthal:
#WhiteSox still working on Dunn. Would be Jackson-plus. Source: “This thing is far from over.” #MLB
"Inconceivable!"
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
-The Princess Bride
42 minutes, SOX...let's see your best offer...or try to motivate Manny...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
RIZZO WE LOVE YOU!!!
@Ken_Rosenthal: More on #WhiteSox, conflicts with previous tweet: Source says #Nationals have not made counter-offer on Dunn “in days.” Truth at 4 pm! #MLB
"Inconceivable!"
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
-The Princess Bride
T-minus 35 Minutes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HERE WE GO NATSTOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Screech's Godson
More from Rosenthal
#WhiteSox believe #Nats are using them to drive interest in Dunn. Nats had asked for Beckham. No discussions, to repeat, in days. #MLB
"Inconceivable!"
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
-The Princess Bride
And MORE
Exec on Dunn: “He’s not going anywhere. Bank on it.” #Nationals #WhiteSox #Rays #Tigers #MLB
"Inconceivable!"
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
-The Princess Bride
In other news: Rosenthal confirms Yankees have Kerry Wood.
"Inconceivable!"
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
-The Princess Bride
Buster Olney thinks it's just a safety net move for Joba
"Inconceivable!"
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
-The Princess Bride
Cleveland's doing some pretty big housecleaning.
"Inconceivable!"
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
-The Princess Bride
If they get a Grilled Cheese Sandwich out of the deal
It was worth it
Wood is awful
They are simply made of money...
…Cleveland says, “Take our team, take anyone!” The salary will be the interesting part of this move. Of course, if they wanted Kerry Wood, seems like they could have gotten in the Matt Capps sweepstakes. Money talks, and Kerry Wood walks.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
Cleveland's eating a big part of that salary still
"Inconceivable!"
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
-The Princess Bride
I'll be bummed
if The Nats don’t trade Dunn and don’t announce an extension. I won’t be bummed if he’s traded, or if he’s extended. At this point, I just want more closure than Dunn not traded or extended.
I will gladly eat crow if Brandon Jones does well for the 49ers in 2010.
by Andrew Davidson on Jul 31, 2010 3:27 PM EDT reply actions
If he's not signed or traded in the next 30 minutes.
We could go through months more of being pulled around like marionettes, only this time Dunn’s agent will be pulling the strings.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
Latest from Rosenthal:
@Ken_Rosenthal: Exec on Dunn: “He’s not going anywhere. Bank on it.” #Nationals #WhiteSox #Rays #Tigers #MLB
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2010 3:31 PM EDT reply actions
You heard the man, BANK ON IT!!
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Beat me to it.
RIZZO WE LOVE YOU
"Inconceivable!"
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
-The Princess Bride
Please keep posting them though, I'm going downstairs in 10 minutes and will post updates here in the comments...
But would appreciate the help….
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Patrick, you got my number, right?
Please let me know if anything materializes after I head for the grandstands sometime in the 20 min.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
Send me another email, I have it somewhere...
But I’d have to search mail.
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
If he's not traded I think they wantt to keep him
They have two months for an extension
Aim for the head baby Jesus
E Jackson: I would rather keep Dunn and take the picks
rather than get edwin Jackson. He has had one season better than anyone we have would give us. I am yet to be convinced he can do it again. Especially for such a real bad defensive team like us.
"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James
+1, it would have to be Jackson and someone legit Viciedo/Beckham for me to even consider it...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Beckham and Jackson maybe
beckham is a bad sophomore, but many very good players were bad sophmores
"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James
delete the maybe
The more I think about it the more I take that deal.
"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James
Bad sophomore, but also moved 3rd to 2nd....which could account for trouble adjusting...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
However, if we got a very good infielder or some prospects
TradiNg Dunn is necessary
"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James
20 More Minutes Guys......
Not till the end of the Trade Deadline, but the beginning of the Harper talks! That’s gonna be just as “thrilling” (rolling eyes)
Did you see the Harper Facebook stories yesterday?
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes....Depressing
However, I like Zuckerman’s take on it…..there is no way that this kid took his GED to go to College early, and selected a wooden bat division, just so that he could spend two years in college….He did that so that he could sign at 17…..bottom line, he signs at the midnight hour
Said the same all along, going back to junior college vs the minors ins not a choice...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
"Hey, I'm negotiating with ESPN too! I want a Bryce Harper, The Decision Spot on Sportscenter so I can be the LeBron of baseball!"
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
Kilgore:
Update, 3:43 p.m.: Dunn is still in the lineup.
"Inconceivable!"
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
-The Princess Bride
Chone Figgins........
Looks like the Braves are after him….Chone was the player I was hoping for in the off-season, much more than Orlando Hudson
what do they do with him?
chipper to bench? unthinkable. Plus who needs Chone Figgins when you have All-Star Omar Infante!
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
chipper could retire
he makes the Hall if you ask me.
"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James
.255 with middling power could be upgraded.
Now that would be an all in kind of move.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
Didn't realize he played CF too.
That man is The Original Omar Infante. He should sue Omar Infante for trademark violation.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
McLouth could return strong
The tools are there
"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James
I have Chone on my fantasy team
and he sucks this season. He must not be comfortable playing second.
"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James
I play him only for steals
and versatility
"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James
Heading down for Riggleman and hopefully Rizzo talk...back asap w/ updates...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2010 3:49 PM EDT reply actions
At least one DC based writer is tweeting that the Nats and Dunn are going to work on long-term deal...
Not confirmed from anyone else….
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2010 3:51 PM EDT reply actions
Rizzo to Dunn: “I’ve finally got that fool Kenny Williams begging to talk to me. Take the trade Dunner. We’ll get more value than the two picks. Sign back with us. We’ll give you 2/3 of the difference in monetary value between the value of the players and the picks when we sign you back. We win, you win. Everybody wins!” [Rizzo point to head]
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
Eating some Crow !!
MinorLeagues Former first-round pick Aaron Crow has been reassigned to Class A Advanced Wilmington, while Danny Duffy was promoted to Double-A
less than a minute ago via web
Priceless.
Rizzo points to Crow and says, “You too can lose money and enjoy the GCL if you diss us, Harper. And I ain’t spreading my dirt with Ladson.”
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
of course the Royals are downright awful at developing pitchers
so maybe its not all his fault
"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James
Serves him right!
Rob
"Ninety feet between home plate and first base may be the closest man has ever come to perfection." -- Red Smith
Rosenthal on Pirates/Dodgers
Dotel for Lamb and McDonald
"Inconceivable!"
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
-The Princess Bride
On a side note: I hate the Yankees
"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James
Bummer
we so need some quality infielders
"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James
We have them
Their names are Adam Dunn, Adam Kennedy, Ian Desmond, Ryan Zimmerman, Alberto Gonzalez, and Danny Espinosa
"Inconceivable!"
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
-The Princess Bride
I'm Stephen Lombardozzi or Jeff Kobernus....
…and I disapprove of this message.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
Fixed that for you.
Their names are Adam Dunn,Adam Kennedy, Ian Desmond, Ryan Zimmerman, Alberto Gonzalez, and Danny Espinosa
"And everybody lived happily ever after. Except the Phillies and the Mets. The End." --Sasskuash
Friend of Dukes and Desmond #3
Correction accepted
"Inconceivable!"
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
-The Princess Bride
AK says...
…Super AK could be back now that the Guz kryptonite is gone.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
Nightengale USAToday says Sox are done dealing...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2010 4:01 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
4 pm.
Dunn still a Nat! (I think)
Rob
"Ninety feet between home plate and first base may be the closest man has ever come to perfection." -- Red Smith
If he stays, got to say I'm happy for you.
You were the one who brought me from trade him to neutral after the bluelineswinger immaculate case. Capps for solid prospect, Guz gone, Rizzo trying to hold Dunn’s got to be sweet for you.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
There are going to be other deals that filter in throughout the afternoon.
Some still have to be approved. In other words, they could choose to announce a trade later. Rizzo should say something ASAP if it’s not Dunn today.
Regardless, I encourage all to bring their Adam Dunn bobbleheads tonight in tribute to Dunner tonight. Nyjer on 2nd base, Dunn brings him in is what I hope.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
How Close Were We To Being Buyers?
What “could” have been, if Marquis, Wang, Olsen, Bruney, Walker, and Lannan had come through as planned.
I’m happy Dunn is still a Nat and I hope they announce an extension soon. Not the same Administration but I dont want another Soriano fiasco.
Soriano is way overpaid and sucked most seasons since he left.
I was a great idea to let him go
"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James
It's the picks vs. the chips that's the ongoing debate.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
Zimmermann will be a 15 game winner as soon as he is fully healthy
Which would in my mind be about 2012.
"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James
Right, but when we could’ve gotten something for him, we didn’t and let him go for free. Not so bummed about not resigning him, more bummed about letting him go for free.
didn't we get draft picks?
wasn’t zimmermann one of them?
"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James
But if he stays...
….there will be another Dunn bobblehead next year!
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
MOAR BOBBLEHEADS!
BTW. for all the Nyjer dislikers (“haters” is too extreme, and an overused word) out there: I’ll gladly accept your unwanted bobbleheads. I’m a tall middle-aged fellow and I’ll be by the Frank Robinson portrait in the concourse about 6:40-6:45.
by Elvin Unseld on Jul 31, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Now time for something big to leak out
it was getting “finished” as the deadline hit.
Needs moar dingerz.
the NJ trade wasn't announced until about 4:30 or so...
so we’re not out of the woods yet (we, being those of us who want Dunn to stay)
Patrick's at a Rizzo press conference right now, so we'll hear about it pretty soon.
Apparently the wifi signal is terrible where they have the press conferences.
"And everybody lived happily ever after. Except the Phillies and the Mets. The End." --Sasskuash
Friend of Dukes and Desmond #3
Dunn on field, Playing catch with Hammer...
Still no sign of Rizzo though…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jul 31, 2010 4:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Uh-oh, did Rizzo trade himSELF?
STOP MESSING WITH MY MIND!
"And everybody lived happily ever after. Except the Phillies and the Mets. The End." --Sasskuash
Friend of Dukes and Desmond #3
DID RIZZO TRADE RIGGLEMAN?
"Inconceivable!"
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
-The Princess Bride
I can't understand why anyone would want Farnsworth
Awful. . . but Ankiel is a nice addy to them
perhaps the 2.42 era as a setup man makes farnsworth valuable
since leaving the yankees his FIP has been in the 3.10-3.15 range.
"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James
Royals actually got something for Ankiel!
"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James
Rosenthal:
@Ken_Rosenthal: It’s official. #Nationals did not trade Dunn. Just like they did not trade A. Soriano a few years back. #MLB
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
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