Ramos Fever: Quantify it!
by Doghouse on Aug 18, 2010 3:15 PM EDT
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This year, Ramos hit 254/292/370 in 295 PA for the Twins' AAA affiliate. He hit 5 HR, 14 2Bs, and walked 12 times. Those numbers might have you doubting that he'll be productive in the bigs. However, he managed to hit 296/321/407 with 3 2Bs in a brief, 28-PA stint on the Twins earlier this season. That's too small a sample to be confident in the results, but it adds up to a 101 wRC+. League-average offense from a catcher would be fantastic. Another entry in the encouraging-but-inclusive department: Wilson has been 317/349/483 in 63 PA at Syracuse since the Nationals acquired him, with 2 2B, 3B, and 2 HR. Does he thrive under pressure? Countryman Jesus Flores hit a Nieves-like 153/275/254 in AAA in 2008 before spending half a season in the bigs and hitting a respectable 256/296/402. I think we can hope for league-average offense. Keep your fingers crossed that he can take a walk or three.
As for performance behind the plate, he allowed 4 SB and had no CS in his 63 innings in the majors so far, with 1 WP. However, he's managed 23 CS with 22 SB in 67 games at AAA this season. That's a Pudge-like 51% CS--remember that league-average is only 29%! He has 4 PB in the minors this year, which is a bit worrisome given the Nats pitching staff. Still, I think we can hope for league-average defense. Cross your fingers that he can block the balls in the dirt.
Add up a league-average defensive catcher and a league-average bat and you get 3 or so wins above replacement, about a "B-" on the Doghouse Curve. I'm excited to see that on the field for the Nats, and you should be, too.
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Maybe we'll see a Carlos Santana-esque jolt.
So a B on the curve if not better?
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If you taken into acount
ability to block the plate without getting leg snapped off then Santana might not grade so high.
by David Huzzard on Aug 18, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
don't forget he got ran over by Dunn also
Major Strasser: What is your nationality?
Rick Blaine: I'm a drunkard.
Captain Louis Renault: That makes Rick a citizen of the world.
Let's not get carried away though
it’s great to get excited about a rookie, especially one that a) is in a position of need and b) that the team traded an all-star closer for…BUT, he is just a rookie. can we let him develop without putting unfair expectations on him based on limited sample size from the minor leagues?
as Justin Maxwell can tell you, there’s a big difference between Triple-A and the bigs.
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by Dave at District Sports Page on Aug 18, 2010 3:32 PM EDT reply actions
Boooo! Dave = Buzz Kill
I’m not expecting to get to see more than a dozen innings on this stint—maybe one start and a PH appearance or two. It still won’t be enough to say anything, so if it’s good we can be happy, and if it’s bad we can say it was a small sample.
"And everybody lived happily ever after. Except the Phillies and the Mets. The End." --Sasskuash
Friend of Dukes and Desmond #3
Yeah
And given how things have gone lately and how they appear to be going; I will be glad to have something to be happy about.
i don't want to buzz kill
but i don’t want to set up unfair expectations either. Jim Bowden was the master. he’d overhype the player, then when he failed he’d blame the player instead of his faulty logic for drafting/acquiring him. remember, Bowden’s the one that said Desmond reminded him of Jeter!
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by Dave at District Sports Page on Aug 18, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe it's a sign of having been a Nats fan for too long...
…but I was getting excited about a player because I think he can be league average. I’m hoping for Russell Martin (heck, or even Matt Wieters), maybe, not Brian McCann…
"And everybody lived happily ever after. Except the Phillies and the Mets. The End." --Sasskuash
Friend of Dukes and Desmond #3
Based on what we've seen from McCann this year
I hope he can throw alot better
Aim for the head baby Jesus
Bowden looked alot at the guys tools
and Desmond is tall shortstop with a strong arm and decent power.
Aim for the head baby Jesus
Dave's a Maxwell Hater!!!
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Aug 18, 2010 4:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
A Morgan-loving Maxwell hater, that's what he is!
Rob
"Ninety feet between home plate and first base may be the closest man has ever come to perfection." -- Red Smith
I'm planning my "Why Morgan Should Bat 8th" post as we speak!!
Free Desi and Bernie!!!
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
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by Patrick Reddington on Aug 18, 2010 4:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i'm not a Maxwell hater!!!
i was a “platoon Max with Morgan” guy very early on. i’m moving around to “we’ve seen enough evidence” on Maxwell at this point though. he simply can’t make contact with major league pitching.
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by Dave at District Sports Page on Aug 18, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh, I was a full-fledged Maxwell backer but...
…I can’t ignore the evidence any more. And I’ve just about given up waiting. He’ll be great in Cleveland.
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Aug 18, 2010 4:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yea, its just hard to give up on his tools
6’5 235 with his speed is just crazy, maybe he should have played football.
Aim for the head baby Jesus
I at this point
If Willingham’s healthy I’m for the 3 person platoon of Morse, Bernie, and Morgan in RF and CF. That lets Bernie play some CF, and lets him play almost everyday. Until we pick up someone else, he’s the CF of the future.
Aim for the head baby Jesus
Wait
I am a Morgan Loving Maxwell hater…whats wrong with that :) lol ( actually JMax is cool by me )
by NewJerseyAveSE on Aug 18, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Pedro Ramos
As a Senator in his second big-league season, Ramos surrendered one of the more memorable home runs in the career of Yankees slugger Mickey Mantle. On May 30, 1956, at Yankee Stadium. Mantle tore into a Ramos pitch and nearly drove it out of Yankee Stadium, hitting the facade of the top deck in right field. In their heyday, Ramos and Mantle were considered among the fastest runners in the major leagues. Mantle and Ramos raced with Ramos stumbling at the start, Mantle winning.
( the Senators often used Pedro as a pinch runner)
I think it is exciting that Ramos has been called up.
I think someone will need to remind Riggs he is available, however. GRRRRRR!!!!!
Patiently waiting for "next year" since 1971.
I'm sure that Riggleman will continue to prefer to use Pudge
and it’s hard to blame him
Rob
"Ninety feet between home plate and first base may be the closest man has ever come to perfection." -- Red Smith
[hopes Pudge gets tossed again]
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Aug 18, 2010 6:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Pudge isn't bad
We don’t appreciate him enough. There are a lot of bad catchers out there.
I do agree that he should be a 7-8 hole hitter.
I love Pudge and I think he is amazing, but alas, his hitting skills have declined.
I also agree he should always bat lower in the lineup.
Patiently waiting for "next year" since 1971.
by Princess Jazzy on Aug 18, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Can we just call Ramos "Party John"
DC needs a Party John in the WaPo sports section.
It has been empty without one.
+1
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by Dave at District Sports Page on Aug 18, 2010 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Ramos' Number 3
Good to see Wilson Ramos wearing “#3” today…means nothing to Expos-legacy fans, but an awful lot to those of us who remember the National/Senators legacy. #3 belonged to “Hammerin’ Harmon” Killebrew. Of course, it’s been long-since retired within the Senators/Twins franchise—but I’ll bet the significance was not lost on young Mr. Ramos.
Yes, he went 0-4 today…but he was 8-9 earlier this year when the Twins summoned him from Rochester (before going stone-cold when he quit seeing fastballs). Let’s hope Wilson warms from here, and that “#3” is back in Washington.
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