Wire Taps: Washington Nationals Trade Deadline Wrap: Adam Dunn.
ESPN.com's Tim Kurkjian appeared on the Sirius/XM MLB Network Radio show "First Pitch with Rob Dibble and Jim Memolo", to talk about the aftermath of the 2010 Non-Waiver Trade Deadline this morning, and was asked for his thoughts on the Washington Nationals' decision to hold on to Adam Dunn:
Tim Kurkjian: "[The Nats] just didn't get offered enough for him and I know they've taken a lot of heat out there for not moving him, but I was listening to you yesterday, Dibs, you know, you still have to have somebody to come out the ballpark and watch, and if Stephen Strasburg is hurt, I mean, really, who are you coming out to watch on the Nationals? That guy hit another homer yesterday, he's got [25] of them now, he's a fun guy to watch, and the Nationals are also in a spot here where they have to make some progress at some point, they have to win as many games as they can to show people, 'Look, we're moving in the right direction here,' to just trade a guy just to say, 'Hey look, we have the best hitter on the market, we're going to deal him,' I'm not sure I understand that, if you don't get what you want then you still try to sign him to a free agent deal, if you don't, then you lose him to free agency, you take the picks and then you do your best to go sign [Paul] Konerko or Derrek Lee or Carlos Pena or another free agent first baseman out there, I'm just not a believer of 'OK, we're not going to win the division so let's trade all of our best players, even if we can't get equal value,' I don't think they got equal value for him and that's why he's still on the Nationals."
Nats' GM Mike Rizzo said the same in a post-deadline press conference on Saturday afternoon:
Mike Rizzo: "The reason that we didn't trade Adam Dunn is that we never got a deal that we thought was equal or greater value to Adam Dunn. We were on the receiving end of the calls, we weren't making the calls, we got a lot of interest in Adam and just didn't see an equal return to what Adam Dunn brings to the ballclub on and off the field."
Nonetheless, ESPN.com's Buster Olney, who was still expressing disbelief on Sunday afternoon in a column entitled, "The deadline from all angles", was left asking, "What in the world was Washington thinking?" Mr. Olney reports that the Nats made a late attempt at getting their big middle-of-the-order bat signed, but failed to do so, and in his opinion at least:
"...their chances of landing the slugger to a hometown discount evaporated as it became clear how much the big-market contenders value his two particular skills, mashing homers and getting on base."
As the deadline passed, FOXSports.com's Ken Rosenthal (@ken_rosenthal) was tweeting that new sources were telling him that the Nats were not actively shopping Dunn, "Source says #Nationals have not made counter-offer on Dunn 'in days,'" and in the end, minutes before the deadline, Mr. Rosenthal reported that the White Sox, who were reportedly apoplectic about their dealings with the DC GM believed that the, "#Nats are using them to drive interest in Dunn. Nats had asked for Beckham. No discussions, to repeat, in days." And in his final Tweet on the subject, Mr. Rosenthal, as the deadline arrived said simply, "Exec on Dunn: "He's not going anywhere. Bank on it."
The reports out of Chicago, according to ESPN.com's Buster Olney again, were that the White Sox were, "... pulling their hair out over the Nats' machinations," having acquired RHP Edwin Jackson from Arizona with the intention of flipping the pitcher the Nats reportedly desired to Washington in exchange for Adam Dunn, but as Mr. Rizzo told reporters Saturday afternoon, "I'm not going to comment on any single player, but there was no player that we asked some team to acquire that we were going to trade Adam Dunn for." "Could any one player have gotten the deal done?" Mr. Rizzo was asked in a follow-up question, "They would have to be a player that has equal or more impact value than Adam Dunn has in our lineup and clubhouse right now." "But it could have been one [player]?" "It certainly could have been one, yes," Mr. Rizzo stated finally.
That one player? Back on the Sirius/XM MLB Network Radio show "First Pitch with Rob Dibble and Jim Memolo", Mr.'s Memolo and Kurkjian identified the one player they believed would have gotten the deal done all along, with Mr. Memolo mentioning Gordon Beckham as one player who could have gotten the Sox their slugger, to which Mr. Kurkjian responded:
Tim Kurkjian: "Right, and if the White Sox had given them Gordon Beckham, of course, they drive to Chicago and drop [Dunn] off, they pick [Beckham] up immediately, that's ridiculous, there's no way the White Sox are making that trade, obviously, but [RHP] Daniel Hudson is not Gordon Beckham and Edwin Jackson who makes $8.35 million with an ERA over 5.00, he's not Gordon Beckham either, so in the end if those were indeed the best offers for Adam Dunn, than that simply isn't good enough, now if they did better than that and turned down somebody, well then they made a mistake, but I pay pretty close [attention] to this and I did not see anybody coming Washington's way that was worthy of trading basically the best hitter on your team and a guy that people actually come out to watch."
In Rizzo We Trust.
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Buster Only The Yankees probably is working on his next book as well after "The Final Years of the Yankee Dynasty" or whatever that was called.
ESPN clearly believes were all idiots because there’s not enough to watch ESPN. Has anyone on ESPN mentioned the Maya signing as further evidence that the Nats are actually intelligent people who have improved the way they did business?
Positive at the deadline B+ for me (“A” would have taken a pre deadline Dunn signing or high return Dunn trade), although that may be on the Bowden curve.
MLB network for me unless there’s nothing else on and I happen to wander into Baseball Tonight.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.
The atrocity of basic cable
No MLB network, and sign of competence
Sunshine will come to Nats Park, I promise. (visit por favor? my website)
It's ok and I watch it more than I watch Sportscenter.
Usually Quick Pitch for me is after Nats wins that I listen to on the radio or see at the game, I’ll try to catch Quick Pitch to see how they run the game highlights. You can tell that they are trying to be efficient with Quick Pitch. Pretty much it’s just the game feeds from the teams and a brief intro. Kind of cookie cutter but I don’t have a problem with that because it’s usually better than Sportscenter because I have to watch a lot of stuff I’m not interested in but so much on Sportscenter. Manufactured NFL stories and baseball stuff and “human interest” things. I’m very down on ESPN right now because the two sports that are growing the most for me, hockey and baseball, get short shrift because ESPN doesn’t have major contracts with either. Sunday Night baseball, Monday night and Wednesday night, sure. But MLB’s got the day games, Saturday night, and Thursday night. TBS has Saturday afternooon. Fox gets the national game (with lousy coverage), and most importantly ESPN is shut out of the playoffs now. ESPN never shows my team unless Strasburg’s on the mound.
Quick Pitch gets maybe a B-/B from me.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.
None of those other networks show the Nats either
unless they absolutely have to.
Rob
"Ninety feet between home plate and first base may be the closest man has ever come to perfection." -- Red Smith
I see the Brewers extended Corey Hart's contract for three years
Any chance the Nats can, uh, you know, do the same with Dunn?
Rob
"Ninety feet between home plate and first base may be the closest man has ever come to perfection." -- Red Smith
You hope that's in the plans.
But Dunn’s agent may be smarter than that. He should wait. Nats don’t have many backup plans unless they want to negotiate a cheaper but potentially worse option. The first base names mentioned above don’t inspire me but so much.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.
How long until Kurkjian is on MLB network?
It really is just a matter of time. I can’t seem him being the only smart person in a room full of idiots for too much longer.
That's not what Keith Law thinks of himself !!! How dare you, he's says...
And he can say that in spanish while drinking a latte and reading Wuthering Heights…
Law
is all snark and sarcasm and very little substance. Just read his chats. Someone really should start a Fire Keith Law blog. He is really more concerned with being a jerk to people that disagree with him than anything else. Someone asked in one of his chats if it is RBI’s or RBI and he repromanded them for even bringing up such a useless stat to his highness and even went so far as to say Runs don’t matter. My friend and I want to event Klawball which is scored by what team uses outs most efficiently and scoring is based on line drive rate. All groundballs and fly balls would be outs and you wouldn’t need fielders because you would replace all pitching stats with FIP, and even attempting a steal would result in an automatic out.
by David Huzzard on Aug 2, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Shouldn't it be
“R’sBI”?
Rob
"Ninety feet between home plate and first base may be the closest man has ever come to perfection." -- Red Smith
That's why we play the games!
So we can use the stats the calculate FIP, which is what’s really important.
"And everybody lived happily ever after. Except the Phillies and the Mets. The End." --Sasskuash
Friend of Dukes and Desmond #3
We poopinz' a cans of worms
Le sigh
Sunshine will come to Nats Park, I promise. (visit por favor? my website)
poppin’ (goodness I can’t spell)
Sunshine will come to Nats Park, I promise. (visit por favor? my website)
You should get a doctor to look at that.
Rob
"Ninety feet between home plate and first base may be the closest man has ever come to perfection." -- Red Smith
Community project? Was thinking it might be interesting...
To post the full audio of the Yunesky Maya interview and let the Spanish speaking members of the “Faithful” translate so we could get his actual responses? Anyone up for such an excercise?
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Aug 2, 2010 2:40 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Are you suggesting the translators were being less than exact...?
Lots of folks speak Spanish around here (in DC area, I mean), so it would be hard to imagine they changed his words around VERY much.
Rob
"Ninety feet between home plate and first base may be the closest man has ever come to perfection." -- Red Smith
No, not suggesting that...
But it had a bit of the feel of the scene in Lost in Translation where the Japanese photographer is talking for minutes at a time and then there’s a ten-second translation, do I just thought exact/direct quotes might be interesting…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Aug 2, 2010 2:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That's not very nice.
Rob
"Ninety feet between home plate and first base may be the closest man has ever come to perfection." -- Red Smith
His bat shouldn't catch fire either
We want no part of Mark Kotsay
Sunshine will come to Nats Park, I promise. (visit por favor? my website)
Dunn seems too laid back to be a drummer,
seems like a bass player to me.
Aim for the head baby Jesus
Well then don't let his bass catch on fire either.
Fortunately, bassists aren’t quite as prone to “tragic accidents” as drummers are (according to the documentaries I’ve seen, anyway).
Rob
"Ninety feet between home plate and first base may be the closest man has ever come to perfection." -- Red Smith

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